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No, I did not get stuck in Europe, but I did go to Wing Night in lieu of watching Raw live. I did tape it however, and am about to watch it, so I'll edit this with my thoughts after I watch.

As for you....go nuts!

EDIT: Decided to do a full recap instead of just a write-up of thoughts anyway.

-WWE Open.

-Cold open to the Meadowlands arena, and Triple H's music started up. He came to the ring as the announcers talked about his Extreme Rules match with Sheamus. He told the crowd not to suck up to him because he's the only guy here. He told the fans about the crew being stuck in Europe. He said people around the world freaked out about the volcano, then made a joke about Big Show and Mexican food. He said people probably think the main event will be him against Frank the Audio Guy. Instead, he said, the WWE brass has ensured that the show will be of the highest standard. He talked trash about Sheamus and what he did to Kofi Kingston last week. The Game said Sheamus was in for a rude awakening, but then C.M. Punk's music interrupted. Michael Cole said there was a "rumor" that Smackdown would try to take over Raw with the crew left overseas.

The Straight Edge Society went face-to-face with Triple H and Punk made the point that the Smackdown crew had the fortitude to make it back to America. He made fun of New Jersey to get some cheap heat then reminded Triple H that he may not be on Smackdown after next week because of the Draft. He said he was going to bring the Society with him if he came back to Raw. Hunter asked why the other members have to shave their head and Punk doesn't. He said it's the same reason Shawn Michaels was bald and Trips didn't have to shave his head: He's the leader. Interesting dig there. Trips name-dropped Rey Mysterio, as he faces Punk at Extreme Rules. More hair jokes from Hunter. Punk said Hunter is just as naive as the fans if he thinks Rey will beat him. He tried to convert Triple H to Straight Edge, but that went about as well as you'd expect. Trips did the "United States of America" speech, made famous by defense lawyers across the country. Hunter posed with fans at ringside and said they can do what they want because they're free and in America. Including two middle-aged guys he made a gay joke about, as well as Lilian Garcia, who was the guest announcer of the night. He managed to get in a horse joke without her even knowing it. Punk back-tracked, saying he already said he didn't want to be there. He said he honestly thought that Hunter would shave his head and join the Society tonight. Then he said he wasn't asking him to...he was telling him to. Then Luke Gallows attacked him, an attack Hunter fended off; he set up the Pedigree, but Punk kicked him in the head. It was three-on-one and Serena got the clippers, but Rey Mysterio made the save. Mysterio got the clippers and Hunter held Punk. They took out a chunk of his hair, but the Society saved him before more damage could be done.

-They plugged tonight's guest hosts: The cast of MacGruber.

-Also: We'll hear from John Cena, via Northern Ireland, next.

[Commercial Break]

-The announcers plugged WWE.com.

(1) Matt Hardy vs. Drew McIntyre
Both men were already in the ring. Cena will be heard from next. Hardy clotheslined McIntyre over the top rope, then landed a double axe-handle. This is a re-match from this past week. Mac kicked Hardy into the steel steps. Back in the ring, McIntyre began to dominate Hardy. The ref checked on Hardy, as he seemed to be a bit foggy. He threw some punches that didn't come close to McIntyre. Out of nowhere, he landed a Side Effect for two. Neck-breaker followed that up. Cover got two. Drew tried to hook him for his finisher, but Matt back-dropped out. The two did a noggin knocker in the corner and both went down. Hardy went to the top after recovering, but Mac pulled him off by his legs, with Hardy landing head-first. That was enough to get the pin.

Winner: McIntyre, at 3:02. Good story for only three minutes.

-Cole and Lawler talked on camera about the situation in Europe. John Cena joined the announcers via satellite; they didn't even get him a chair! They were in Belfast, Ireland and Cena apologized to fans but told family and fans that all the wrestlers were safe overseas. Cena said this didn't change his preparation for Sunday. He said when it's all over, he'll be the last man standing and he'll be the new champion.

[Commercial Break]

-Vladimir Kozlov was in the ring out of break. He said he wanted Jerry Lawler to read a statement. King came into the ring and was greeted by a "Jerry, Jerry" chant. Lawler read the statement, which was a protest of the unfair treatment he has received by the Raw guest hosts. He demanded elite competition. The fans are all spoiled, ignorant Americans, according to the letter. He said they are physically inferior, and therefore, weak. Another shot at New Jersey again. It's so easy, I guess. He said he couldn't wait for his fellow Russian to buy their NBA franchise, the Nets, and move it out of Jersey. MacGruber's cast interrupted: Will Forte and Kristen Wiig, playing their movie characters. MacGruber had an American flag with him.

Wiig read a statement calling America the last remaining super-power. She said Mr. McMahon has ordered a Super-Powers main event of C.M. Punk, Luke Gallows and Chris Jericho against Triple H, Edge and Rey Mysterio. Why did Mr. McMahon make it; can't they, as guest hosts, book the match? MacGruber told Kozlov not to rip on New Jersey, then listed some great Americans from the state like Jon Bon Jovi, Paul Blart, Mall Cop, and Snookie and the Situation (actually cheers for that, sadly). He called Kozlov a giant pile of suck. He said he'd end MacGruber if he said that one more time. Instead, MacGruber turned his attention to Vlad's mother and made some jokes about here. Wiig's character said he doesn't speak for her. Kozlov said he'd destroy MacGruber later tonight. MacGruber said Kozlov already has a match...and he's in for a strong dose of the Truth. Good performance from Forte and Wiig, as one would expect.

Truth came out as MacGruber continued to stare at Kozlov. He said he rigged the entire place with explosives if Kozlov tried to run. They did the "what's up" when fireworks went off on the stage. When it cleared, all that was left was Truth's boots. Wiig told him he just blew up R-Truth. MacGruber tried to say he was just joking and that he was a big fan of Kozlov. Vlad said that later tonight, he will destroy MacGruber. The SNL vets looked worried in the ring as the Moscow Mauler headed to the back.

-Up next, we'll hear from Randy Orton.

[Commercial Break]

-Backstage, MacGruber kept trying to exit his office when Triple H cam up behind him. In his office? MacGruber said he was just trying to get some air. Triple H pointed out the spot on MacGruber's pants that looked like pee. He said it was just water. MacGruber copped that it wasn't water...but it wasn't his pants. His friend peed his pants, and they switched pants until the friend's pants dried. His friend walked in...and it was Kane. Triple H told Kane what MacGruber just told him about the pee pants. "What are you talking about?" asked Kane. After MacGruber high-tailed it, Kane said he doesn't think that peeing was the only thing MacGruber did in those pants.

-The announcers discussed Orton vs. Swagger at Extreme Rules, then we heard from Orton. He said there's a lot of talk about the future of the World Title, but wherever he ends up will be where the World Championship is going to be.

-Jack Swagger was walking backstage. I'm assuming he's having something to do next?

[Commercial Break]

-Lilian Garcia introduced Jack Swagger. Swagger came to the ring and told Orton that talk is cheap when you're 3,000 miles away. Swagger stared wondering aloud how he could prove to Orton that he could beat him Sunday. Then, he asked for a referee to come out and issued an open challenge. At first, nobody came out, but as he left the ring, a bell tolled. You know what that means. Undertaker made his slow entrance as Swagger watched from ringside.

(2) Jack Swagger vs. The Undertaker
Shoulder knock-down by Swagger, and he looked just as surprised as Taker. Taker returned the favor and began to work the left arm. He went Old School and connected to the back of Swagger's head. Swagger came back and kicked away at Taker as we finally heard "the best pure striker in the history of WWE" again from Cole. After some action outside the ring, Swagger continued attempting to derail Taker by going after his left leg. Taker turned the tide by tossing Swagger outside the ring, then did his leg-drop with Swagger draped under the bottom rope. Taker got a cover for two inside the ring and worked a front face-lock as they went to break about six minutes into the match.

[Commercial Break]

Back from break, Swagger went back on offense, attempting to wear down Undertaker with more leg work. Again though, Taker powered out and Swagger found himself outside the ring. But Swagger tripped Taker and wrapped his leg around the ring post. The two men traded punches to the "boo, yay" of the crowd, but Swagger kicked at the leg again. DDT out of nowhere by the Dead Man. Taker with Snake Eyes, then a big boot. Legdrop got two. He tried a chokeslam, but Swagger fought out. He ran into a big boot. Swagger countered and landed an awkward DDT for a very near fall. Vader Bomb was set up, but he appeared to take too much time. As he came down, Taker grabbed him by the throat. Chokeslam, then came the Tombstone. 1, 2, 3.

Winner: Undertaker, at 15:48. Solid enough, given Taker's injuries and limitations at this point. Even though Swagger lost, he went toe-to-toe with Taker for 15 minutes.

-The graphic for the six-man tag later in the show was displayed.

[Commercial Break]

-Lawler thanked Saliva for "Time to Shine," the official theme song to Extreme Rules.

-The announcers talked about MacGruber, then showed a trailer for the film.

-Jericho was talking to the Straight Edge Society, but Punk (wearing a towel on his head) didn't want to hear it. Jericho told them to follow him and his plan. Jericho said he's beaten Mysterio, Edge and Triple H more times than he can count. "I beat all those guys too," Punk hilariously told Serena and Gallows as Jericho walked away. He walked into MacGruber and whatever character Wiig is playing (a check of IMDB says it's "Vicki"). MacGruber said he hadn't seen Jericho since the movie wrap. Jericho told him to stop the pandering, and that there's already early Oscar talk surrounding him and a possible sequel starring him. MacGruber asked Jericho's advice about facing Kozlov. Jericho advised MacGruber to try to shake Kozlov's hand to throw him off his game. MacGruber hugged Jericho. Vicki told him he was so shiny. MacGruber's match is next.

[Commercial Break]

-They replayed MacGruber and Kozlvo's interaction from earlier tonight.

(3) Vladimir Kozlov vs. MacGruber
The two men went face-to-face before the bell rang and MacGruber extended his hand nervously. Then he slapped Kozlov hard. Vlad grabbed MacGruber and gave him a few headbutts to the chest. As he lifted MacGruber up, Ryan Phillipe came out. He apologized for being late, but said he just got off the phone with the WWE offices, and this is now a handicap match. He called out MacGruber's tag partner, Khaluber. It was the Great Khali.

Winner: No Contest, at 1:42. No bell rang to end this match, but a bell rang to start the next one.

(4) Vladimir Kozlov vs. MacGruber & Khaluber
So much for Khali going back to India. MacGruber caught his breath at ringside as Khaluber got into the ring, dressed apparently as his character from the movie. Boots to the gut of Kozlov and some elbows as well. Kozlov fought back with rights but Khaluber nailed him in the head with a chop. Kozlov went to ringside and tried to head to the back but Khaluber went after him. I guess because Kozlov was counted out, the faces won.

Winners: MacGruber and Khaluber, at 1:32. About as good as you'd expect from Kozlov vs. Khali.

MacGruber got the mic and said America was best, including sports, food and movies. Then he mistakenly plugged Shrek 4. His co-stars had to remind him to plug MacGruber. He said he'd do anything to protect America, and the segment ended with a blast of pyro and the MacGruber logo.

[Commercial Break]

-A video package aired on the Cena vs. Batista feud.

-The announcers previewed the Extreme Rules card.

-As Triple H came to the ring for the main event, Sheamus appeared on the Titan-Tron. He said Triple H SHOULD be fortunate that he didn't go on that European tour. Sheamus said he'd show him what he'll do to him at Extreme Rules...and he attacked a stage-hand as others tried to get him to stop. Triple H looked on with concern in the ring.

[Commercial Break]

(5) Triple H & Edge & Rey Mysterio vs. C.M. Punk & Luke Gallows & Chris Jericho
Rey got the early advantage and as he heels re-grouped on the outside, Edge and Trips back-dropped Rey onto them. They went to break at this point.

[Commercial Break]

Punk was working over Mysterio out of break, slamming him head-first into the buckle, countering a bulldog. Gallows and Jericho also came in and beat Mysterio down a little more. Springboard moonsault by Mysterio took Jericho down. Both men made tags, and Edge turned up the volume on Gallows. He set up for the spear, but Serena got on the apron. That allowed Jericho to interfere, but Jericho was stopped by Hunter. Apparently, Jericho did some damage to Edge's Achilles. Gallows held Edge for Punk, who tagged in legally. Crowd tried to rally behind Edge. Clothesline to Gallows bought Edge some time. Tag was made to Hunter, just as Punk tagged in. He did his usual offense and went for the Pedigree, but Gallows interrupted. The match broke down among all six competitors, including Rey hitting the 619 on Punk. Then he got Pedigreed to end the match.

Winners: Mysterio, Edge and Triple H, at 11:01. The usual multi-man TV main event, with six good workers.

The announcers quickly plugged the three-hour draft set for next week before replaying the finish. The three faces posed on the turnbuckles for the fans as the show ended.


(edited by geemoney on 20.4.10 0047)

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Okay, considering the circumstances, I will give Raw a pass this week for a bad show. They had to scramble like crazy to come up with tonights show.

Only 5 matches, and Kozlov really should given his "best endeavors" note.

Undertaker-Swagger was a pretty good match considering they have never worked together before and had no time to prepare for tonight.

Nice they were able to get Lillian Garcia to fill in tonight as announcer.

Jericho should have had a bigger role in tonight's Raw. He's always over.

Punk and HHH did well together, once again, given they had little time to write up skits and prepare for this.

Was it a bad Raw? Yea, but like I said, they get a pass this week.
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R.I.P. R-Truth.



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    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    R.I.P. R-Truth.


That moment right there made the night for me. Nothing tonight made sense and as shawnpatrick indicated, there was a bit of a pass tonight. Perfectly timed luck with the guest hosts. What's up, what's up, what's up.
R-Truth couldn't fill those shoes alone.

Follow up after commercial made me text my friend to let him know that I will always consider walking in his shoes, but never will I wear his pants.

There is a long road to Wrestlemania.... but damn that was an unexpected great match with Swagger and Undertaker. Not five stars or anything, just a great match. Perfect build for Swagger defeating Orton on Sunday. Swagger made one mistake tonight, one mistake. I know he can get over that mistake, beat Orton and then go on to challenge UT for the streak. I just know it can happen (so it ain't gonna, duh)

Raw is Smackdown worked really for me. It was more for the SNL than the wrestling. However decent builds for Extreme Rules and looking forward to the draft. Good job with little time to plan.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.90
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    R.I.P. R-Truth.


Considering how crappy his gimmick was, is it wrong that I'm celebrating his 'death' right now?






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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
I don't like seeing the champion Swagger lose matches to Orton and then the Undertaker to start off his reign. They were very unclear both times about whether or not the title was on the line. It used to be a given that if the champ was fighting, his belt was up for grabs. If not, the announcers and ring announcer made sure to say something about it.

I really liked the Punk and HHH segment. The three members of Straight Edge remind me of the three members of DX with Shawn (Punk) HHH (Gallows) and Chyna (Serena).

Edge looked like he was legit injured at the end of the match, with Rey checking on his leg and barely being able to stand up off the mat for the celebration.
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Man, there's suspension of disbelief and there's just plain cartoonish. R-Truth can get a kick out of being a future fixture in Wrestlecrap, if nothing else.

It's been said before, but the E gets a pass for tonight. All things considered, they did a hell of a job with what they were faced with. Not an awesome show, but was anyone expecting it to be under those circumstances?




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I am not sure why everyone is giving a free pass to WWE since its not like Smackdown doesn't also run a two hour show. Considering how many times they change roster spots most of these guys have worked lived before, so I don't see the big difference. They turned their go home show for Extreme Rules into a bad comedy special. I understand the writers being under pressure considering trying to fill 4 hours of Smackdown content with only a handful of Raw guys, but considering how much better the Smackdown roster is, it shouldn't be as epic as everyone is making it out to be. Taker beating Swagger cleanly further cements my opinion that WWE has no idea what to do with Jack as champ other then make him Kurt 2001 with sneaky wins here or there and lose a ton of his non-title matches, shit his outfit is basically the same too. Jericho and Punk were good highlights in a rather bland show. I thought Smackdown being on Raw would be a good way to showcase their talent, yet it felt stale for some reason.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I am not sure why everyone is giving a free pass to WWE since its not like Smackdown doesn't also run a two hour show.
I think it's the "being forced to completely overhaul everything they had planned and write an entirely new show with new cast members at short notice" thing that affords them some leeway.....

EDIT - Thoughts on the show damnit! It was kinda OK with patches of shitty. I know next to nothing about MacGruber and this didn't do anything to make me want to change that. Still, under the circumstances? Not bad.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.49
Until a few hours before the show it wasn't even clear whether or not they'd be able to get any Raw guys back. The UK flight statuses have literally been updated every four hours or so. So things were still chaotic well into Monday, and yes, that means they get somewhat of a pass here.
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Well I said Shawn Michaels had been my only reason to watch Raw, and that I was going to stop watching after he retired. And I haven’t watched since Mania. Then I hear the SD guys were filling in, and I do still watch SD, so I thought I would check it out.

I missed the first hour, and tuned in just in time to see the new Champ Swagger job to Taker. It was a decent match, but why job Swagger in a random match going into the PPV?? I understand the logic that just because a guy wins the belt, he should not be able to beat everyone on the roster all of a sudden. That doesn't make sense after jobbing him out for months leading up to the title win. I get that, but what I don't get is why make the match in the first place? Have some other midcard/upper midcard guy lay down for Swagger to make him look strong, like Jericho did on Friday night. Especially if that is all you could come up with for R-Truth to do.

Anyway, I turned it off after that, and thank God I didn't have to see Punk apparently lay down for HHH? Isn't that what Luke is for?





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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.99
The WWE site says the RAW live audience can get a refund for the show. That's a nice gesture on their part.



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Does everyone think that little of the RAW writing team that we, as fans, give them a pass because they didn't think of things like "Let's not let our new champion job 6 days before his title match to a part timer because the crowd isn't necessarily buying him as legit champ." or "Blowing up R-Truth in a cartoonish way is stupid, people will think it's campy." or even "Will Forte and Kirsten Wiig are real people, treating them like movie characters will just insult our audience." because 'they wren't given enough time'? And does everyone think all that MacGruber stuff wouldn't have happen with the regular crew?

Bill Simmons once said that every team should have a VP of Common Sense, just a regular guy, to prevent teams from making dumb mistakes (i.e. "Hey Bryan Colangelo, you have a horrible defensive team. Giving Jason Kapono $24 Million and Hedo Turkoglu $53 Million might not be in your best interest "). The WWE desperately needs this.

But hey, The Undertaker and HHH won, so all is right with the world.

(edited by DirtyMikeSeaver on 20.4.10 0649)


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.99
    Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
    But hey, The Undertaker and HHH won, so all is right with the world.


For the targeted younger audience, those appearances and wins may ease the pain of missing Cena and Batista. I expected a masked wrestler named The Volcano to take a beating. You know, like when RAW had a blonde woman chase a guy in a tiger suit right after Thanksgiving.

Getting a SmackDown show instead of a RAW show may be a disappointment for some. My notion of my local audience is that they buy tickets for a WWE show, regardless of which roster is advertised.



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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    The WWE site says the RAW live audience can get a refund for the show. That's a nice gesture on their part.
For those who attended the show? Sweet, that's like three hours of free entertainment, less the cost of refreshments, transit or parking, and whatever else.

I haven't watched SNL since Mike Myers, Dana Carvey, and that group...so I have no idea who MacGruber is, but I found their spots to be really stupid. The singer of the theme song sounds like DVDA.

Anyhow, admirable effort from the WWE, considering what's happening. The hightlight for me was CM Punk/HHH.

Oh, and riddle me this: why didn't they try to run a show in Europe and show it on TV? They have their equipment, right? Unless they sent it back with the Smackdown crew....



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
    Originally posted by Oliver
      Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      The WWE site says the RAW live audience can get a refund for the show. That's a nice gesture on their part.
    For those who attended the show? Sweet, that's like three hours of free entertainment, less the cost of refreshments, transit or parking, and whatever else.

    ...

    Oh, and riddle me this: why didn't they try to run a show in Europe and show it on TV? They have their equipment, right? Unless they sent it back with the Smackdown crew....


I wonder how many people will try to get a refund just because they can (answer: probably most of them)
But with HHH, Undertaker, Jericho, Edge, etc WWE did deliver as much as any Raw would/could do.
Sure, no John Cena, and I bet a lot of kids go just for him, but you got Taker!

And I assume the stages and tv equipment went back to the USA right after Smackdown.
The house shows usually don't have the same ramps, etc.

Plus iirc they were already done running shows, just sitting and waiting in Belfast for the past 2-3 days, so even if they had their tv gear, they were too late in taping something on the fly.


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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
    Originally posted by Oliver
    Oh, and riddle me this: why didn't they try to run a show in Europe and show it on TV? They have their equipment, right? Unless they sent it back with the Smackdown crew....
Logistically, finding and booking a suitable/available venue at short notice probably wouldn't be easy. It's not like they could choose from anywhere in Europe, just the relatively small part of Europe they're currently in or could travel to (UK and Ireland still?).

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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
      But hey, The Undertaker and HHH won, so all is right with the world.


    For the targeted younger audience, those appearances and wins may ease the pain of missing Cena and Batista. I expected a masked wrestler named The Volcano to take a beating. You know, like when RAW had a blonde woman chase a guy in a tiger suit right after Thanksgiving.

    Getting a SmackDown show instead of a RAW show may be a disappointment for some. My notion of my local audience is that they buy tickets for a WWE show, regardless of which roster is advertised.


Or the whole Denver/Los Angeles Stan Kronke debacle.

I enjoyed the show tonight. They scrambled nicely. It was almost like a televised house show, espcieally with that opening promo by HHH. I actually liked the Kalhuber 'appereance', not so much the match but the video was pretty funny.

The R-Truth 'blowing up' thing was dumb so we won't talk about that.

I enjoyed Swagger/UT and have no problems with UT winning. Swagger is awesome but he is not at a level where he can beat UT cleanly. And I'm sorry UT is not going to come back for one night to job yet. At least Swagger was given a strong showing.

The 6-man tag was good too. And I don't see why Punk taking the pin was a problem. He pretty much got double-teamed by Rey and HHH.

Drew McIntyre continues to grow on me, but he needs someone other than Matt Hardy or Kane to feud with. I see him being drafted to RAW.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.18
    Originally posted by dwaters
    I don't like seeing the champion Swagger lose matches to Orton and then the Undertaker to start off his reign. They were very unclear both times about whether or not the title was on the line. It used to be a given that if the champ was fighting, his belt was up for grabs. If not, the announcers and ring announcer made sure to say something about it.



Orton I'll give you, but no way was Swagger beating Undertaker. Especially after Michaels couldn't do it in the last match Taker fought. To go even-steven with him for 15 minutes is as good as a win, I'd say.

Also, when the title is on the line, they give the graphic of the title being on the line. And sometimes, they do the special ring announcement thing where both competitors are in the ring. But mostly, if the ring announcer doesn't say it's for the World Championship or whatever, the title isn't on the line.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52
    Originally posted by dwaters
    It used to be a given that if the champ was fighting, his belt was up for grabs. If not, the announcers and ring announcer made sure to say something about it.


When? In 1980? Not in this decade, or the last, or the 1990s.

Otherwise, what geemoney said. No title belt graphic, no Big Fight Feel ring introductions. No confusion here.

I mentioned this in the iMPACT! thread, but CM Punk looked hilarious with the towel wrapped around his head. I think that was the only thing I liked on RAW.

How tall are Will Forte and Kristin Wiig? Jericho looked like he towered over both of them backstage and Jericho's not someone his peers literally look up to, with a few exceptions.



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