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TONIGHT: “Denny Crane”! He may be Captain Kirk to most people, but to me, William Shatner will always be the pompous rainmaker from “Boston Legal.” And he’s hosting Raw tonight. Also, Bret Hart returns…..again. Vince McMahon invited him back, so we’ll get some interaction between those two. Also, will Shawn Michaels have a complete breakdown following his failure to win the Royal Rumble? What about the returning Edge? Does he make an appearance on Raw tonight to check out the possibility of facing the WWE Champion? And will tonight be the night Maryse and Gail Kim go at it for the Divas Title?


-“In Memory of Jack Brisco: 1941-2010.”

-WWE Open.

-Raw Open.

-Tonight, Bret Hart confronts Vince McMahon; we got the graphic of that before they even did the requisite crowd shots.

-Also, William Shatner is in charge of Raw tonight.

-Justin Roberts introduced the 2010 Royal Rumble winner, Edge. Hard to gauge the reaction with his music and the announcers talking. He stood in the middle of the ring with a mic. Mixed reaction from the fans. “I’m baaack!” He said he wasn’t just back in a WWE ring and in front of all the fans, but he’s back in the main event of Wrestlemania. We got a little history lesson, as Edge took us back to six months ago, when his injury occurred when he was teaming with Chris Jericho as the Unified Tag Champions. He said that about seven weeks ago, he watched the Slammy Awards and saw Chris Jericho thank him for getting hurt so he could team with the Big Show. Edge said he saw Jericho making light of his injury and the room got very silent. Edge said the room didn’t get silent because Dennis Miller bombed with another joke, but it was because he made a vow- he has missed two Wrestlemanias due to injury, and he wasn’t about to miss a third. He said he was the ultimate opportunist and promised himself that he’d prove the doctors wrong and rehab harder than he ever has before. Seven weeks later, Jericho has a Slammy Award, and his mugshot on TMZ. If they’re going to reference that, maybe they should explain it. Meanwhile, he has his shot at Wrestlemania. That means he can face any champion he wants. He said that two years ago, he faced Undertaker in the main event and lost. But this year, unlike Shawn Michaels, if he wants the Dead Man, he can have him. But would the smart thing be going after the guy who is 17-0 at Wrestlemania….or the guy who hasn’t even participated in a Wrestlemania? Edge said he could decide tonight, or decide after the Elimination Chamber PPV. He said that this year, the Rated R Superstar will headline Wrestlemania. Still not sure about where his character stands as far as face or heel. Oh, as Edge’s music played him out, Sheamus’ interrupted.

Sheamus said that Edge hasn’t been back five seconds and he’s already mouthing off. Sheamus said a lot has changed and Edge said he’s right: Raw has been taken over by an evil Ronald McDonald. Sheamus said he did something Edge couldn’t, that being beating John Cena for the WWE Title. Edge said he made a career out of beating Cena for the WWE Title and he’s beaten Orton too, just like Sheamus did last night. Sheamus said he’d walk out of the Elimination Chamber still WWE Champion. He said if he can beat Cena and Orton, he won’t break a sweat beating Edge. He told Edge to run off to Smackdown because he doesn’t want to ruin his Rumble moment by ripping his head off. Edge didn’t oblige, instead, he went nose-to-nose with Sheamus as the Irishman threatened to put him on the shelf for good. Sheamus took a shot at Edge with the microphone, then clotheslined him down. Pump Kick missed, and Edge landed a double-leg take-down and pounded away. He set up for the Spear as the crowd was firmly behind him. Spear took Sheamus down as Edge’s music played. They showed a replay of how the battle got started, and what happened after Sheamus fired the first shot.

-They showed the exterior of Nashville, Tennessee, where Raw was emanating from this week.

-A video package aired on the Elimination Chamber.

-Jerry Lawler said that all the matches tonight would be Elimination Chamber qualifying matches. They showed John Cena walking backstage- his match is next.

[Commercial Break]

(1) John Cena vs. Cody Rhodes – Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match
They plugged Stacy Keibler on Psych this coming week, after talking about the record ratings that were set when Cena guest-starred. Does anyone think Cody has a modicum of a chance in this one? Side Russian leg sweep got a two-count for Cody. It was all Rhodes in the early going, but none of his numerous pin attempts were successful. Cena made his patented comeback only a little more than a minute in. Rhodes battled out of an Attitude Adjustment and hit a short-arm clothesline. Moonsault by Rhodes found the mark, but Cena kicked out at two. Out of nowhere, Cena picked Rhodes up for the Attitude Adjustment, landed it, and won his spot in the Chamber.

Winner: Cena, at 2:53. The result in this one was purely academic. It was probably good that Cena put Rhodes away with ease, really.

-They showed a video package on the Montreal Screwjob, so fans were up to date with why Bret and Vince have so many bitter feelings.

-Vince McMahon was walking backstage when he was approached by Josh Mathews. Mathews asked Vince if he has seen Bret tonight. Vince said he hasn’t and no one will, because he doubts very seriously that Bret will show up. McMahon walked into an office, turned around quickly and said, “what a surprise.” The camera was on Vince while he berated the Canadian for barging into his office. We were supposed to think it was Bret, but of course, it was William Shatner. Big pop for the reveal. Shatner said as a Canadian and a fan of WWE, he can’t wait until Bret Hart embarrasses Vince tonight. Then he walked away. It kinda cracks me up that a guy like Shatner, who has done almost everything in the entertainment business, is being given lines and is being produced by guys who only wish they could do 1/20th of what he’s done in his career.

[Commercial Break]

(2) Jack Swagger vs. Triple H – Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match
Lawler explained that Swagger injured Santino last week on Raw, causing Marella to miss the Rumble. Swagger took Triple H to the ground and rolled around a bit to show off his amateur credentials. Swagger even did push-ups as Hunter got to his feet. That went over about as well as a fart in church, as Hunter retaliated with a high knee. He clotheslined Swagger over the top rope. They went to break about a minute into the match.

[Commercial Break]

Back live with Triple H getting a boot up in the corner on a Swagger charge. Swagger came back with a float-over DDT for a near-fall. Cole said, “If Triple H can somehow win this match….” I mean, come on. Swagger was escorted over the top rope and to the outside by Triple H. Powerslam by Swagger for two. Vader bomb was countered by Hunter with knees to the gut. Face-buster by Trips for two. Spinebuster and the Pedigree was set up, but Swagger countered with a back-drop. Vader bomb this time connected for a very near-fall. Triple H countered Swagger’s offensive attempt with a Pedigree for the win.

Winner: Triple H, at 9:09. I’m surprised here….I thought Swagger would’ve been the one to be squashed and Rhodes would’ve been the one to have been made to look good. Especially with the way things have played out for those two in the past few weeks.

-As they did after the first match, they showed an updated graphic of those who will be in the Chamber match.

-Next, Randy Orton faces Shawn Michaels in an Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match. How do they explain how Cena gets to go through someone like Rhodes while Orton has to face Michaels?

-A video package on last night’s Rumble match was shown.

[Commercial Break]

-A tongue-in-cheek video on William Shatner aired. They showed shots of Shatner and the voice-over man called him a musical genius. We got Shatner doing spoken word performances of our favorite wrestler’s theme songs, including John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Shawn Michaels, Triple H. They said, “William Shatner sings WWE entrance themes….coming soon.” I hope!

-Shawn Michaels was mourning his loss backstage when Triple H came in and asked if he wanted to talk. Hornswoggle barged in and talked in Hornswog-ese ‘til Triple H shooed him away. Hunter told HBK he’d have done the same thing and told Shawn to lighten up. Shawn said it wasn’t supposed to happen that way. Triple H said Shawn is lucky he wasn’t suspended for superkicking that ref last night. Hunter may have referenced Shawn getting fined, and its nice for them to show that there are consequences for such actions. Trips told Shawn to beat Orton tonight so they could tear the house down at Wrestlemania together.

-Randy Orton made his entrance for the next Chamber qualifying match.
[Commercial Break]

(3) Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels – Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match
Orton stared down Michaels after a lock-up went nowhere. Another lock-up, another break in the corner. Orton blinked first and Shawn chopped away in the corner. HBK tried an early superkick, but Orton stopped short and fled the ring. Shawn chased him, but it ended when Orton went in the ring and set up for the hangman’s DDT. Shawn got out of it and the sequence ended when Shawn hit a cross-body off the top rope. Flair flip in the corner by Michaels after a hard Irish whip by Orton. Back-breaker by Orton, followed by some stomps to the gut. Michaels blocked a punch, but it led only to an Orton dropkick for two. Vintage Orton chin-lock, but HBK got back to his feet. Randy set Shawn on the top rope as the camera angle caught them fighting on the top rope with the Wrestlemania banner in the background. Michaels fought off Orton’s attack and landed an elbowdrop off the top. Superkick by Shawn missed, but he was shoved off on an RKO attempt. Couple atomic drops by Michaels, then a flying forearm. Michaels kipped up, but Orton surprised him with a roll-up for the three.

Winner: Orton, at 6:39. Unique finish to a fine match. The finish deserved a replay, but we didn’t get one.

Michaels was dejected in the ring following the match. He was visibly angry as he left the ring and walked to the back.

-More clips from the Survivor Series screwjob, including the JR interview with Vince McMahon. Tonight, Hart confronts McMahon again. The announcers didn’t seem to have the same doubt about Bret appearing that McMahon did.

[Commercial Break]

-They showed Tootsie’s Orchid Lounge in Nashville with a band playing. It’s just down the street from the arena.

-Lawler and Cole talked on camera about the issues that have plagued Shawn Michaels the past few days.

-Randy Orton was walking backstage when Ted DiBiase came up to him. Ted congratulated Orton for the win tonight and apologized for the incident last night. Orton shot Teddy a look that silenced the youngster, then Orton walked away without comment.

(4) Mark Henry vs. Ted DiBiase – Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match
Henry shoved DiBiase down after a collar-and-elbow tie-up. Henry had the advantage early on and clotheslined DiBiase over the top rope and to ringside. Henry went out to meet him, but DiBiase grabbed his arm and rammed it into a post. Cole called it a “great counter,” but DiBiase didn’t really counter anything, he just grabbed the arm out of nowhere. Back in the ring and DiBiase was in control. That changed with a Henry clothesline. Foot in the face by Teddy, then a cross-body attempt off the second rope. DiBiase was set on the apron, where he grabbed the arm and pulled it across the top rope. Henry missed a charge, and DiBiase landed a single-arm DDT for the pin.

Winner: DiBiase, at 3:08. This will be DiBiase’s first Elimination Chamber match. Not a great match for the three minutes it went.

-They showed a split-screen of Kofi Kingston and Big Show getting ready for their Elimination Chamber qualifying match tonight.

-Cole and Lawler talked about Jack Brisco, who recently passed away. They said a few words about him, showed the graphic from the top of the show, then aired a video package on his career. They even showed a short commercial for the Brisco Brothers Body Shop! Polite applause from the fans followed that.

[Commercial Break]

-Kelly Kelly was backstage congratulating Gail Kim on her title shot. Maryse walked up to them and she told Kim she’s looking forward to the championship match against her. She said she’s been watching Smackdown lately, and what Michelle McCool and Mickie James have been doing there is a disgrace, as they are acting like little girls. Maryse said she was looking forward to her match with Kim and seemed sincere. Then she spoke French and walked away. Kim and Kelly both agreed that was weird.

-The Miz and Big Show were relaxing in William Shatner’s office, sans Shatner. Miz talked about Big Show winning his match tonight and Miz said he’d convince TJ Hooker to give them a title shot against DX. Then CM Punk, Luke Gallows and Serena walked in and told Miz and Show that they were screwed out of their title shot last week and were looking for whatever passes for an authority figure on Raw. Shatner walked in and looked at the camera as they froze it and the voice-over proclaimed him “Raw match negotiator.” Funny. The two sides pled their case to Shatner. Shatner said he’ll do what he does best: Make a deal. He made it a Triple-Threat tag match for the titles for next week against DX. Shatner got in a plug for a horse charity and hammed it up for the camera while the wrestlers joked with him. Shatner froze and thought they were freeze framing, telling the other wrestlers to do so as well. The wrestlers finally just walked away.

-Triple H and Shawn were in the locker room. Trips tried to give Shawn a pep talk and told him he doesn’t need Undertaker at Wrestlemania. He said there’s plenty of other guys to take on at Wrestlemania. “Not for me,” Shawn said.

-Kofi Kingston made his entrance for the final Chamber qualifying match, which is next.

[Commercial Break]

(5) Kofi Kingston vs. The Big Show – Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match
Before the match, The Miz came out. He joined the commentators for the match as Show tossed Kingston around to start. He missed a charge and ended up on the apron where he was dropkicked to ringside by Kingston. He recovered there as they went to break.
[Commercial Break]

Back in the ring after break, Show hammered away with forearms on Kingston. Jaw-breaker by Kingston got him out of a rest-hold. Giant headbutt by Show put Kingston to the mat. He rolled out of the ring, where Miz decided to do some trash talking to Kofi. MVP ran out of the crowd and attacked Miz. He laid a good licking in on Miz as Lawler called it a cheap shot. Kingston choked Show across the top rope then came off the top…well no, he slipped. Show walked toward him and Kofi tried to hit a dropkick that looked ugly. Kingston got back on a roll and hit the Boom Drop. Kingston beat on Show in the corner, including getting a thumb to the eye. Show grabbed Kofi by the throat and tried to punch Kingston, but Kingston ducked and he knocked the ref out (on a punch that showed a lot of light). Show showed concern for the ref and called for another to come to the ring. Scott Armstrong obliged, then rang the bell when he got there, DQ’ing Show.

Winner: Kingston, via DQ, at 8:20. Not the smoothest effort, but good to see Kofi get into the Chamber.

Big Show got upset at ringside and tossed the steps around as the referee was tended to by the medical staff.

-They showed highlights of Bret Hart’s Raw return almost a month ago.

-Mr. McMahon was walking backstage….he calls out Bret Hart next.


[Commercial Break]

-They showed the graphic for the Elimination Chamber match at Elimination Chamber.

-Next week, NASCAR driver and friend of John Cena, Carl Edwards, is the guest host of Raw. Also, a Triple-Threat Tag match for the titles will take place next week.

-Jerry Lawler was in the ring, and he introduced tonight’s guest host, William Shatner. Lawler intro’d Shatner as the man who inducted him into the WWE Hall-of-Fame, and his BFF. The Bella Twins accompanied Shatner to the ring. Shatner came into the ring and pretended to trip, running into Lawler and the both of them getting knocked down. They checked to make sure they were both OK. Shatner thanked the fans for allowing him to be the guest host of Raw tonight. Shatner introduced The Excellence of Execution, a fellow Canadian, and his friend, Bret Hart. Hart made his entrance into the arena, not looking too happy. Fireworks went of as he got into the ring. He shook hands with Shatner, who gave him the microphone. Bret said that a little over a month ago he was here and he’s had a month to think about things. Hart said he came back for all the right reasons, trying to make peace after 12 years. He said everybody warned him, but he was too naïve to think he could put this all behind him. He said things aren’t sitting very well with him, and he didn’t come here tonight to make peace. He said he came to talk to Vince McMahon face-to-face. He called out McMahon and told him to get his ass out here. He said ass again as he threatened to take the camera crew to the back and find McMahon. Finally, Vince came out.

He was in extreme strut mode too, grooving to his tune on the stage. He acted surprised to see Bret, overacting to it, then walking to the ring. McMahon got a mic in the ring so he didn’t have to share with Bret. McMahon said he wanted to get a few things off his chest as well, one of them being that he wanted to reiterate that he doesn’t regret anything he’s done or said to Bret. He said that was the first honest thing Vince ever said to him. He called McMahon “the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be” at lying. Hart talked about all the times McMahon lied to him. Bret said that McMahon couldn’t lace up his father’s jockstrap. Stu Hart wearing a lacy jock-strap is something I don’t need in my mind. Hart said that last week John Cena called McMahon pathetic. Hart said he knows about pathetic, especially after ending up in a wheelchair after his stroke. Bret said he remembered sitting in that wheelchair, crying himself to sleep and feeling pathetic. Bret said he promised himself he’d get out of that chair and made a vow to never feel pathetic in his life. Bret said when he came back to Raw, Vince left him feeling pathetic. Hart talked about the sacrifices he made working for Vince. He thought to himself that someday, Vince McMahon would appreciate it. Hart said it took him 20 minutes to build up a reputation, and it took Vince three seconds to tear it down. He confronted Vince about the chewing gum remark and said this stick of chewing gum has enough flavor left in it to kick Vince’s ass here and now. Bret’s body language doesn’t seem to match the supposed intense feelings he has. McMahon said that, in the interest of being honest, he introduced Bret Hart by all his nicknames. “What a crock!” he said in that deep, throaty, trademark voice of his. McMahon forgot about the Canadian Hero moniker he has in Canada. McMahon said he’s not a hero, and Bret asked if he was finished. Vince said no, and that Bret isn’t a hero to anyone. McMahon again said he wasn’t finished. He said he didn’t understand what the fans see in Bret. McMahon said Hart is revered by fans, but he thinks he’s pathetic. He said Bret has zero personality and that those Bret faced in the ring, like Shawn Michaels, Mr. Perfect and Steve Austin, all had the personality to make up for it.

McMahon continued, saying Bret has no charisma, no command of the English language and that hound-dog looking face. He talked of Bret’s stringy, crappy hair. He even said Bret was dressed like a hobo. Vince said that Bret deserved to be screwed. McMahon said the last time the two were face-to-face, Vince said he’d nominate Stu for the H.O.F. Vince said he re-thought that and it’s not going to happen because he doesn’t deserve it. Wow, he’s really bringing out the big guns. Then Bret kicked Vince in the gut, pulled his jacket over his head, and beat him up hockey style. He brought Vince to the middle of the ring and was about to lock in the Sharpshooter when Batista came out. He pulled Bret off Vince and did the same thing to Bret with the jacket and the punches. Fans were chanting for Cena as Batista held Bret for Vince to hit. McMahon got fired up and gesticulated all over the ring in front of Bret. He spit right in Bret’s face as Batista held him. Where is John Cena? McMahon strutted around the ring as the show closed. Strong ending segment, especially Vince’s performance.
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    Originally posted by geemoney
    [Batista] pulled Bret off Vince and did the same thing to Bret with the jacket and the punches.

At first, it looked like Batista was trying to power bomb Bret. Did anyone else pick up on that? I mean, wow.



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I like how for a while now Big Show has pretty much been playing the role of the charismatic guy who just happens to like hanging with heels and beating faces up. I kind of hoped for a Snitsky cameo to pat him on the back at the top of the ramp and offer understanding words about how it wasn't his fault either.

Also one of Vince's shoes came off during the sharpshooter attempt and Bret threw it at his face. That was a nice touch.

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Wasn't there supposed to be a Diva's match for the vacant championship?

Nice to see Edge back.

Big Show was probably the most entertaining thing on RAW this week.




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Went to the show tonight with my family. They boys had a great time and the show was fun. Cena ran in after it went off the air and chased off Bastista, challenged Sheamus to title match, won title match by dq when Batista came back and powerbombed him on the steel steps, and then recovered enough to make a comeback on Sheamus and send everyone home happy.

Fun times.



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What's the over/under for punches that Bret actually landed (on purpose)?

How great was the "Bill Shatner sings Raw Theme Songs"?
I'd buy it!

Great show for me. Every match meant something, every angle (except the women) was advanced to some degree. Shawn looking like somebody took his puppy was great. His desperation is showing. Does he show up on Smackdown and try to get into their EC match? (seeing as how he's still tag champs, at least there's a reason)
The SES showing up and demanding a match was a surprise. Loved the RAW MATCH NEGOTIATOR gem.

It was also nice to see HHH selling for Swagger. I wonder how long they're going to just let Jack Swagger spin his wheels before giving him a push.

But Bret 'shooting' on Vince made my night. More the promo than the beat down. He actually looked a LOT better in the ring than he did last time though, which is good.

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So Vince's big hate-on for Bret is now all based on the fact that Bret didn't fit Vince's concept of an ideal WWE champion? Uh, okay? It's kind of hilarious that Bret's partner/representative in this conflict will be John Cena, who is basically Vince's idea of the perfect wrestler.


    Shawn looking like somebody took his puppy was great. His desperation is showing. Does he show up on Smackdown and try to get into their EC match? (seeing as how he's still tag champs, at least there's a reason)


I love this theory. He gets into the Smackdown EC, causes both UT and himself to be eliminated, then Jericho wins the title and gets challenged by Edge. Awesome.



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Cena/Bret Vs. Batista/Vince! Goddamn, that makes so much sense.
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Did they show the clip from RAW when Shatner was on plugging TekWar and did that angle with Lawler?

Edit: Am I correct that this was during the KJP recap years and no CRZ recap (after a quick search of www.crz.net)?

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What was Shanter tripping and almost taking out Lawler? He looked trashed, good for him, lord knows if I were in a WWE production meeting, I would need a bottle of jack and some chasers. By the way, I love today's big picture of the GI Joe set, God Damn I wish I could buy that. Anyway, a good Raw that helps build the Chamber PPV and Mania. Cena/Brett vs. Vince/Batista would be a better idea then trying to have Vince/Brett go out and try to have a match. Edge is still awesome on the mic and after tonight there is no need for him to take on Sheamus. Sheamus is the weakest champ since JBL.
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I really liked the Straight Edge Society showing up. I find that group really intriguing. I like Serena and the idea of a hot, bald valet.

I liked the back and forth between Bret and Vince. Vince making that face and saying he looked like a hound dog, with a cut to Bret indeed looking like a hound dog.
I hope they don't take it too far and mention Owen and other Hart family tragedies, but knowing Vince they probably will.

Big Show must be a great actor because he had me believing he was going to sit down in the middle of the ring and start bawling "It was an accident- I swear".

I like the Shawn angle. I don't think he's ever done anything that wasn't interesting. The JBL slave thing was sorta dumb though.
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I had hoped Edge's hiatus would be long enough for him to stop doing the "Ponytails of Violence" thing with his hands. Otherwise, great to have him back.



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    Originally posted by odessasteps
    Did they show the clip from RAW when Shatner was on plugging TekWar and did that angle with Lawler?

    Edit: Am I correct that this was during the KJP recap years and no CRZ recap (after a quick search of www.crz.net)?
1. No. I'm not sure you want a clip of both of those dudes 15 years younger. { insert facelift joke here }

2. Shatner appeared during the 1/9/1995 (King's Court) and 1/16/1995 ("managed" Bret Hart vs. Jeff Jarrett with Lawler in his corner) episodes (both taped on 1/2). Google Groups doesn't appear to have a KJP report for either week.



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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Cena/Bret Vs. Batista/Vince! Goddamn, that makes so much sense.


Yes. Plus if you extrapolate: The last time Vince McMahon was involved in WrestleMania, he was represented by Umaga in a match against Donald Trump represented by Bobby Lashley, a big muscle man. Umaga failed. The year after at WrestleMania, Batista, a big muscle man, defeated Umaga at WrestleMania. And now, Vince is going to be represented by big muscle man Batista, who is just as much Vince's vision of what a perfect WWE Superstar should be as John Cena is.

The tease of Bret putting the Sharpshooter on Vince made me salivate. I think that's how this whole thing is gonna end: Vince in the Sharpshooter screaming for his life at the conclusion of the WrestleMania match. I'm so in for that.



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So tag match or cornering guys? Either way they've done a great job setting up the sharpshooter as the WM destination moment. It also pretty much rules Cena and Batista out of winning the Chambers (Taker/Batista/Rey/Jericho/Punk/Truth?). So does Jericho get it from Undertaker or is he left in the cold with Edge in a title match? Michaels costing Undertaker the world title to Chris Jericho of all people would be pretty amazing.
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I think they've gotta go with Jericho as champ. There's nobody else in the mix whom Edge could have a satisfying title match, from both an inring and a storytelling perspective. If they keep it on UT, well, we've seen that match a thousand times. And Sheamus is HHH's pet project.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.21
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    So tag match or cornering guys? Either way they've done a great job setting up the sharpshooter as the WM destination moment. It also pretty much rules Cena and Batista out of winning the Chambers (Taker/Batista/Rey/J​​​ericho/Punk/Truth?). So does Jericho get it from Undertaker or is he left in the cold with Edge in a title match? Michaels costing Undertaker the world title to Chris Jericho of all people would be pretty amazing.


If I'm "reading the minds of WWE Creative" properly, I'm guessing Bret and Vince are in the corner. I think we saw last night just how limited Bret is physically. A real-looking punch and the Sharpshooter is probably the best and most we can expect from Bret. But it's enough.

However Jericho gets that World Title, it seems to me Edge and Jericho are being positioned to be there to supplement Undertaker vs. Michaels II. Possibly even to be the show stealer if the sequel turns out to not be as good as or better than the original.

I think a few lessons were (hopefully) learned from last year, where it was regarded as a one match show. Edge and Undertaker tore the house down at 24, and this was almost two hours after Flair and Michaels had the Match of the Year and immediately after the better-than-expected Show vs. Mayweather spectacle.

If 26 follows the 24 formula, Undertaker and HBK take the HBK and Flair slot while Cena/Bret vs. Batista/Vince takes the Show vs. Mayweather slot. I'm guessing Edge and Jericho will be given the ball to close the show with a wrestling bang.

To get back on topic and say something about RAW, even more than RAW PRICE NEGOTIATOR, even more than SHATNER SINGS WWE ENTRANCE THEMES, and even more than Vince's ridiculous clowning around when he came out from the back to confront Bret, for some reason the random moment I loved the most was the look on Kelly Kelly's face while Maryse talked peace and sportsmanship with Gail Kim. The furrowed brow, the intent listening and gauging of Maryse's words, nodding at what makes sense, shaking her head in disbelief, Kelly Kelly gets my nomination for Best Supporting Actress.

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.71
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    I'm guessing Edge and Jericho will be given the ball to close the show with a wrestling bang.



I suspect Edge won't get a title shot. The way he continued to repeat his declaration of main-eventing WrestleMania felt like a set-up to lose it. If I had to supply a "how," I'd point to Vickie; she needs a rivalry to provide opportunities to make cartoonish screams.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.11
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The tease of Bret putting the Sharpshooter on Vince made me salivate. I think that's how this whole thing is gonna end: Vince in the Sharpshooter screaming for his life at the conclusion of the WrestleMania match. I'm so in for that.


I would possibly wet myself if Vince kicked Bret in the gut again only to find Bret brought back that plate he used when Goldberg speared him on Nitro.



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