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TONIGHT: James Roday had to pull out of Raw tonight after having appendix surgery over the weekend, so his “Psych” co-star Dule Hill will be the sole host of the show. In other news, the Royal Rumble is on Sunday, and there seems to be some dissension among the Raw babyfaces, at least on last week’s final segment. Randy Orton vs. Sheamus build-up should continue this week, as well as the feud that has developed between The Miz and MVP. Something with the Divas Championship Tournament should take place as well.


-WWE Open.

-Raw Open.

-Jerry Lawler and Michael Cole opened the show, plugging James Roday and Dule Hill as guest hosts, and also that John Cena would be guest starring on an upcoming episode of “Psych.”

-Degeneration X came out. Cole and Lawler talked about what happened between Triple H and Shawn Michaels to end the show last week. They don’t seem upset with each other here. Oh, there’s a referee in the ring too. Hunter played Hogan and let the fans chant their name before giving his usual mic work. He stopped short though when he realized Hornswoggle wasn’t out there with them. Shawn said he sent him home. Michaels said it’s serious time and wanted to know why Hunter couldn’t understand the position he’s in. He talked about winning the Rumble and going on to face Undertaker. He told Triple H that he needs this. Triple H said yes, it is too much to ask. Hunter said it’s Rumble time and their six months of joking around is over. Trips said it should be everyone’s goal to win the Rumble and become Champion and if its not, they shouldn’t be here. Hunter said he wanted to go on to main event Wrestlemania. Hunter said they could, as a duo, pretty easily throw out the other 28 Rumble participants, but then they’d have to go one-on-one and if he has to step on HBK’s dreams to reach his own, that’s what he’s gonna do. “HBK” chnats from the fans. Michaels said he understood, then Legacy’s music played.

(1) DeGeneration X vs. Legacy
Cole and Lawler talked about the miscommunication Legacy suffered through last week in a loss. Rhodes missed a dropkick as Hunter held onto the ropes. He went for a Pedigree, but DiBiase pulled Rhodes out of the ring. Cole said he had some breaking news about the guest hosts, and he’ll deliver it after the break.

[Commercial Break]

Back with both Hunter and Rhodes on the mat. Michaels made the tag and hammered away on Rhodes. Lawler said WWE.com is reporting that James Roday is not in the arena and they’re not sure why. Michaels took out DiBiase and went to the top. DiBiase distracted him, allowing Rhodes to roll out. Michaels dove onto both of them on the outside. More chicanery from DiBiase allowed Rhodes to hit a neck-breaker with Shawn half in the ring and half out. DiBiase aggressively went after Michaels in the corner. Cole said the same thing the announcers are forced to say every year, that “this is the most star-studded Royal Rumble in history!” The heels worked HBK over for a time, tagging in and out rapidly. Kick to the mush by DiBiase only got him a two-count. He was hot at referee Chad Patton for not bringing the hand down a third time. Rhodes cheap-shotted Hunter and Rhodes got taken out by Shawn. DiBiase tagged in and couldn’t hook Dream Street on. Shawn went for a superkick, but it appeared DiBiase backed away in time. Cole said it caught DiBiase low in the gut, but either way, he rightly didn’t sell it. Hunter made it back up to tag in and was going to set up for a Pedigree, but Shawn tagged himself in. They had a stare-down and Rhodes shoved them into each other. After another staredown, Shawn superkicked DiBiase (but it appeared to be meant for Rhodes). Rhodes was taken out and Shawn made the pin on Teddy.

Winners: DX, at 10:03. DX beats Legacy again. This was a PPV main event not long ago, and here it is, a Raw opener with no hype.

-They plugged DX vs. CM Punk and Luke Gallows in a Unified Tag Title match on Smackdown.

-Cole and Lawler talked about “Psych” debuting in its Wednesday timeslot this week. We then got a behind-the-scenes look at John Cena guest-starring on the show. I was half-expecting Cena to say, “yeah, I’m quitting WWE to become a permanent cast member on ‘Psych.’”

-Up next, MVP faces off against Big Show.

[Commercial Break]

-MVP made his entrance and got on the mic before the match. He said there’s one more thing he needs to say to The Miz. He said Miz can’t keep running away, and that he’ll eventually have to face MVP for the U.S. Title. Miz came out to respond before Big Show’s entrance. He made fun of MVP’s “straight-up ballin’” catchphrase, then mispronounced “euphemism.” Miz said the fans seem to accept MVP, but for some reason, they don’t like him. Miz said while MVP was taking mug shots, he was starring in multiple reality shows. Eh, I’d say it’s a push. MVP said everyone hates Miz because he’s a jackass. MVP said Miz would be very popular behind bars and they’d be fighting each other off to be his exclusive friend. MVP then questioned Miz and Big Show’s friendship. The two started arguing and Miz shouted that he’d love nothing more than to come to the ring and put his U.S. Title on the line tonight, but instead, he’s got a friend who wants to make a statement. He’s the Miz, he’s awesome.

(2) MVP vs. The Big Show
Show pounced on MVP and kept his opponent on his heels. Punches and a chop in the corner. Show missed a splash and MVP countered with a face-buster. Running big boot by MVP, but he went for another and ran into a chokeslam. That was it.

Winner: Big Show, at 1:00.

Miz came down and stood over a fallen MVP, holding his title over his head in triumph.

-Tonight, we’ll get Mr. McMahon’s decision on the status of Bret Hart. That will come later on in the show.

[Commercial Break]

-Rhodes and DiBiase were still upset after the match backstage, breathing heavy and all. Rhodes told DiBiase that he wasn’t sure where his head was at after last week, and thanked Teddy for sparing him with that kick. DiBiase seemed upset over that comment, but Orton walked in. He was not happy about the loss to DX tonight, as well as the lack of backup when Sheamus jumped him backstage. Orton told them to get it in their heads that only one man can win. Orton told them he’d beat Sheamus and he’d do it with or without them. DiBiase wins and challenges Orton at ‘Mania?

-Cena was backstage with Dule Hill, with his arm around him in fact. “Psych” was playing in the background. A commercial for it anyway. Cena plugged the show and asked where Roday was. Hill told Cena that Roday had an appendectomy. Cena felt for him, as he said he had to go through that procedure at one time. The way they introduced it at the top of the show, I thought they’d make up a reason for Roday’s absence. Hill said he’d push some buttons tonight. Cena walked away as someone knocked on Hill’s door. He said you don’t have to knock on his door, but seemed upset that it was Miz who walked in. Miz said he should’ve been on the show, not Cena. Hill said they wanted him, but Mr. McMahon nixed it. I wonder how many times that’s happened in real life. Miz said he had to Google Hill’s name to find out who he was. Hill said he had a match for Miz tonight, so Google THAT. Then he walked out, leaving Miz alone in his own office. Weird.

[Commercial Break]

(3) Maryse vs. Eve Torres– Semi-Final Divas Championship Tournament Match
Maryse got the mic prior to the match and told the other Divas they’re wasting their time. She started speaking in French when fireworks went off. It was Dule Hill playing around in the tech area. Maryse asked him who he was and said he was being very disrespectful. She called him a loser and again started speaking in French. Eve Torres’ music interrupted and she came out for the match.

Torres started off with some forearms to Maryse. Kick to the gut, but Maryse responded with a slap. Dropkick by Eve for two. Hair pull took Maryse down, then she landed a somersault for two. Splash in the corner, then a bodyslam by Torres. Eve went to the top, but Maryse dodged a moonsault attempt. Maryse hooked in a DDT, but Eve got a Northern Lights Suplex for two. Maryse held onto the ropes on a whip attempt, kicked Eve in the gut and hit the French Kiss for the pin.

Winner: Maryse, at 2:07. Looked like two amateurs going at it. Amateur wrestlers, I should say for clarification purposes.

Maryse will face the winner of Gail Kim vs. Alicia Fox, a match which will take place later tonight.

-Mr. McMahon was walking backstage…his announcement RE: Bret Hart is next.

[Commercial Break]

-Mr. McMahon came out. It’s a maroon jacket this week for McMahon, just looks like an odd color on him. McMahon said if Taker was here tonight, after what happened last week, he’d call him out and DARE him to call him a coward. Vince said that some fans may consider him a coward if he doesn’t bring Bret back. He said there’s no really good reason why he’d bring Hart back. McMahon said you buy low and sell high, and he sold Bret down the river to WCW and was never heard from again. Fans chanted, “We Want Bret.” McMahon told them to be careful what they ask for. Vince said Hart will never again appear in WWE. He chastised the fans, saying they must know more than he does when it comes to business, and there must be an arena full of billionaires. McMahon said, let’s find out if they’re smarter than him. He went to someone in the front row and they said he was afraid of Bret. Vince hopped the rail and went looking for more fans. He asked and a kid responded, “he’s awesome.” Vince wanted one good business reason. McMahon went up to a fan with a “DAMN” t-shirt and asked him what’s the deal with the t-shirt. The guy responded “DAMN!” Vince struggled to get back over the barricade and then said there is no reason to bring Bret back. He’s a part of the past. Another “We Want Bret” chant. McMahon said he’s not concerned with someone who is a footnote of the past. Before McMahon could leave, John Cena’s music hit and the uncrowned champ came out.

McMahon warned Cena not to try and change his mind. Cena said everyone knows where Vince stands and that he never had a problem with Vince until recently. He took issue with McMahon saying Bret was a used-up piece of gum. Cena reminded Vince that a few months ago in MSG, he treated Roddy Piper like he was nothing. Cena said congrats, he built an empire and has an ugly purple jacket to prove it. “Better looking than that orange crap you wear,” he responded. Cena said a lot of people helped Vince build his empire, guys including Bret Hart and Roddy Piper. Cena accused McMahon of thinking that when his wrestlers hit their expiration date, they’re gone. Cena said people don’t respect McMahon as a man because all he cares about is lining his pockets and serving his ego. Cena said when Hart couldn’t make him money any more, he made sure the last image fans had of Bret was Vince kicking him in the gut. Cena said Vince isn’t scared, he’s pathetic. Cena told Vince that he will invite Bret to Raw next week, as Bret deserves a chance to confront McMahon face-to-face. If he doesn’t invite Bret, he proves to every WWE superstar and every WWE fan that they are nothing more than a commodity for Vince to use up. Cena told Vince if he doesn’t, that he should remember August 24, 2035. McMahon will be 90 and Cena, by then a used-up piece of gum, will come find McMahon and for everyone from Andre the Giant to Outback Jack, he’ll take Vince out of his wheelchair and knock his false teeth down his throat. Cena said Vince needs to do the right thing. He then walked out of the ring.

McMahon stopped Cena via his voice. He told Cena that he’ll invite Bret Hart to the show next week, and he won’t even flinch when he comes to the ring to meet Bret Hart. McMahon told Cena that he’d be in action tonight against Sheamus. Did he consult with Dule Hill on this one? I figured they could’ve given a younger guy rub by convincing Vince to bring back Bret, but no, it had to be consummate good-guy and WWE savior John Cena. Other than that admittedly small complaint, a fine segment. Cena especially did a nice job. I like when he doesn’t overact and get too cute.

[Commercial Break]

-Cole and Lawler discussed the events that just transpired.

(4) The Miz vs. Kofi Kingston
I figured it’d be Mark Henry again. Kingston with a deep arm-drag then a few cross-bodys for a quick kickout. He went for another, but Miz booted him instead. That looked good. Miz worked over Kofi and went to a second rear chinlock. Kofi did his flip kick in the corner then went to the top. Not sure what that was, as Miz was turning over and Miz landed on his back with a frogsplash. I thought that’d be a cross-body. Back-breaker then a neck-breaker for two. As Miz stalked Kofi for his finish, MVP’s music played and distracted Miz long enough for Kingston to connect with Trouble in Paradise for the win.

Winner: Kingston, at 3:40. Not bad.

-Carlito brought Dule Hill into the WWE production truck. Hill passed the blame on his pyro accident earlier. Carlito said no guest hosts pay attention to him- he even dressed up as Napolean Dynamite last week to get the attention of the host. Hill asked the guy in the truck what the buttons were for. He said they bring up the graphics and told the guy to bring up Carlito’s graphic. He did, and it was a graphic of Carlito on one side, as if they were going to put him in a match with someone, but the other side was blank. Hill said he’d press a code and whoever comes up, he’ll fight Carlito tonight. Carlito hemmed and hawed about not having his gear and wanting the match to be next week….until Hill punched in the code and Kelly Kelly’s picture came up as his opponent. Carlito liked it, but Hill wanted to do it again. Carlito said no, he’s the guest host, what he says goes. Carly said he’d have to go stretch, then thought twice and said he was ready now.

[Commercial Break]

-Carlito was in the ring for his match. Kelly Kelly was not her usual excited self coming down to the ring. Before she got to the ring, Santino’s music played. He came out in his wrestling gear. Marella told Kelly not to walk any further, then showed off the Best of Raw 2009 DVD. He said he looked stupid in there, and wants to get himself in the Best of Raw 2010 DVD by doing something spectacular. Marella said he wanted to face Carlito in place of Kelly, then go on to win the Royal Rumble. From behind, Jack Swagger attacked him as he got to the ring. Carlito exited the squared circle as Swagger threw Santino over the top rope, revenge for what happened between the two last week. He rammed Santino face-first into the ring post, then did push-ups right by his face.

-Still to come, John Cena faces WWE Champion Sheamus in a non-title match. It’s the main event.

[Commercial Break]

-They showed a video package on the Royal Rumble. Interestingly, it looked like they showed clips of a Battle Royal when they mentioned the Royal Rumble match. They did the usual numbers game. 627 superstars have competed in the Rumble match. Steve Austin holds the elimination record all-time with 36. Kane eliminated 11 in one match, a record. 2002 was the last time the Rumble emanated from Atlanta, Georgia, where it will be from this year. Triple H won that one. 62:12 is the time of Rey Mysterio’s record for longest time in a Rumble match. :02 was the Warlord’s record for shortest time, until Santino Marella set the record last year with :01. How did Bushwhacker Luke get credited for the shortest for so many years? 70% of Rumble winners have won the belt at Wrestlemania.

-The announcers went over the current Rumble card.

-Cena and Hill were talking backstage, and Cena talked about Hill literally “pushing buttons” tonight. Cena got Roday on speakerphone. Roday made a joke or two, even referencing Carrot Top and Berzerker as apparently he believed that Sheamus was the love child of those two. Alicia Fox walked in and asked if Hill was the psychic. Roday, still on speaker, said HE was the psychic and he wanted to talk to her. Hill cut off the call and Fox asked if Hill could see the future and see if she was winning tonight. Hill said he’d be at ringside supporting her. Fox said she better win….or else. Dule asked Cena what she meant. Cena said that if Fox won, they’d have fun together tonight (describing a couple G-rated things they could do), but if she lost, she’d find Mark Henry, and he’d take out Hill’s appendix the hard way. Hill has been pretty fun in his role tonight.

[Commercial Break]

-Dule Hill joined the commentators for the next match.

(5) Gail Kim vs. Alicia Fox- Semi-Final Divas Championship Tournament Match
Kim was already in the ring. Fox with a knock-down, but Kim took Fox with some weird-looking reverse hurricanrana. Fox took back over in the corner, slamming Kim back-first. Tilt-a-whirl back-breaker for two as Hill seemed happy. Hard whip into the buckle by Fox. Fox missed a bit boot and a nice scoop slam by Kim got two. Hill said he was better than Freddie Prinze Jr. as guest host. Kim hit her finisher on Fox for the win.

Winner: Kim, at 1:56. I still think Fox has some potential, but sometimes she’s just all arms and legs in there.

Fox was pissed after the match as Hill tried to escape before Fox got him. Hill still had the headset on as he talked with Fox, who got to him before he could leave the commentator’s table. He told her that he’s not the Psychic on the show, its James Roday. He tried to write it off as a misunderstanding and said it was water under the bridge. He said he liked her shoes, then she slapped him hard, sending him to the floor. Great timing on that, right after his compliment. Lawler helped him up.

-Sheamus was walking backstage. His main event match is next.


[Commercial Break]

-Next week, Bret Hart confronts Mr. McMahon live from Nashville. Plus, William Shatner will guest host.

(6) Sheamus vs. John Cena
Couple lock-ups went nowhere. Bulldog by Cena got him a two-count. Polish hammer to the back of Cena’s neck by Sheamus. Suplex by Cena then got two after reversing an Irish whip. Big clothesline by the champion. Sheamus responded with a suplex of his own for two. He slowed things down and whipped Cena hard into the corner. Sounded like good heel heat for the Irishman. Knee-lift sent Cena to the outside. Sheamus missed a possible knockout blow, and Cena put him up for the Attitude Adjustment. Sheamus got out however and DDT’d Cena for two. Cena powered out of a rest-hold and registered a drop-toe hold. STF was countered and Cena was kicked out of the ring. Cena got whipped into the steel steps by Sheamus. He yelled for Cena to stay down. Cena stirred at eight and dove back in the ring, miraculously, just before ten. He just laid in the ring though. Missed elbowdrop by Sheamus and Cena followed up with a series of shoulderblocks, then a suplex. Five-knuckle shuffle, but Attitude Adjustment couldn’t be hit. Back-breaker by Sheamus for two. Pump kick missed (though it looked good at first), and Cena hooked on the STF. Well, he tried to, but Sheamus escaped the ring. Cena went after him, and it proved to be an unwise decision, as Sheamus landed the kick on the outside anyway. The count on Cena got up to eight when Randy Orton came from behind Sheamus and gave him the RKO for the DQ.

Winner: Sheamus, via DQ, at 9:51. I liked this match. Sheamus continues to impress me. He looked legit here.

Orton was waiting for Sheamus to get up to hit him again, but he went after Cena instead and tried the DDT with Cena’s feet on the ropes. Instead, Cena countered and mustered an Attitude Adjustment. They replayed what just went down. Cena stood tall, as Sheamus and Orton were still down in the ring as the show went off the air. That must’ve been some RKO!


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Though I like him on that show, I think it might have all worked out better with no James Roday; it would've taken time away from Dule pushing buttons/complimenting shoes.



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I agree: Dule Hill was one of the best hosts, IMO. I don't know if he's a wrestling fan, but he came off as someone who really wanted to be there and was enjoying the show.

A much better RAW than last week,at least the parts I saw:

-Maryse/Eve was a much better match than last week's tag match. Not that it was classic or anything, but the two seem to work a lot better this time around.

-The McMahon/ Cena interview was nicely paced, though I thought McMahon was acting mightly weird. The pose at the beginning when he stepped out of the titantron, the ill-colored sport jacket, the jumping into the stands, what was up with all that? Still, I think it sets Bret Hart's 'return' next week really well (I get the feeling he may be back on TV the night before at the royal rumble).

-The match between the Miz and Kofi Kingston was good for such a short match, but I hate the stupid ending where one guy gets so distracted by *music* that the other beats him silly. What, The Miz never heard of a damn theme song? Such a crappy ending for a decent match.

-Too bad we didn't get to see the Carlito/Kelly Kelly match like we were promised. The bit between Santino and Jack Swagger was interesting, but will it really lead to anything in the rumble?

-Gail Kim: overrated. Alicia Fox: just bad. This match: bleh. The only absolute dud of the night. The bit with Hill afterward did make up for it, though.

-Sheamus vs. Cena was a good main event. Sheamus looks to me to be a decent wrestler and Cena did his usual stuff well. It's a good sign, to me at least, that I have no idea how the match between Sheamus and Randy Orton will pan out. Form the end of the match, Cena might even get involved in some way or he may be waiting for the winner come Wrestlemania.

Overall, one of the more fun episodes to watch in a couple of months. Hopefully, they can keep it up with Shatner next week.








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Raw's been on a roll with the guest hosts lately. The Flame was running wild last week and now Dule Hill's bringing the fireworks. It'd be a shame if the streak came to a halt with Shatner next week, but he'd have to be having a major down night for that to happen.

I saw the finish of the Cena/Sheamus match coming, considering we'd seen way too little of Randy Orton tonight. Orton's attack still came at a nice spontaneous moment and was really effective. Also like that he caved in to his baser instincts and decided to try and wipe out Cena before Cena made the superman comeback.

They're doing a good job of building up the tension between DX over the Rumble match. I really like Team Straight Edge's chances on SmackDown! this Friday.

Loved Dule Hill's segments with Alicia Fox. His comedic timing completely made that segment. The only downside was that Cole and Lawler tried to sell Fox's attack as a serious moment, instead of playing it up for the comedy that it was. Lighten up, guys.

Jericho's departure is probably the worst thing that's happened to Big Show. He's just floating around aimlessly at this point.

I'm starting to see why Swagger's stock is plummeting. His attack on Santino was nothing special at all and all he did was flail around like a dope. Can't believe I'm saying this, but he should take lessons from Sheamus on how to lay out a jobber effectively.




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I enjoyed Dule busting Miz for using "2 year old SNL catch phrases", which has annoyed me for a while. Really.

So Big Show squashing MVP in a minute helps this feud how? Besides making him look better than Miz and MVP? I am not a conspiracy theorist, but someone who is may say that this feud is being held down as to avoid one (or both) of these guys getting too over.

Hopefully this was the end of the goofy, with midget version of DX as we head to Mania. The opening segment was much better with the more serious tone.




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    Originally posted by kentish
    Hopefully this was the end of the goofy, with midget version of DX as we head to Mania. The opening segment was much better with the more serious tone.
No no no, the midget has to come back so Sheamus can beat the holy living hell out of the midget.

I really hate the leprechaun but to be fair, he does a really good job portraying a character that I can't stand.



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DX should really drop the belts to Punk/Gallows this week on SD. HBK is focusing on Taker, and HHH will have his own high-profile Mania match to start focusing on. They don't really need the belts, and they just set up tension between HHH & HBK. Why not put it on Punk/Gallows, which would also mean they get Punk's act on Raw as well as SD. There're no other teams for DX to drop the belts to that would warrant appearances on both shows, so go ahead and do the switch this week.



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    Originally posted by kentish
    I enjoyed Dule busting Miz for using "2 year old SNL catch phrases", which has annoyed me for a while. Really.


Indeed. Also loved Miz shouting down MVP's homophobic jokes (even though I thought *that* was about to turn into SNL's "Scared Straight" sketch!). Miz appears to be the New Jericho of RAW lately (with his weekly interactions with the guest host), which is fine by me.

The graphic for the tag match on SD! also gave Punk & Gallows a "Straight Edge Society" official logo, which looked pretty awesome...I'm waiting for it to pop up online so I can grab it as an icon.



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I have to give the WWE guys some props, because I don't feel like I have any idea who is going to win the Rumble (though my money would be on HBK.) I do think they kind of gave away that HHH and HBK will be the last two guys, but then again, maybe they didn't.

There was some really good stuff on this show. I feel like DX has to keep the tag titles on Smackdown because it would be an obvious give-away to a DX break-up at the Rumble. I have no idea if they are going to give the US title to MVP, if only because Miz is doing such an awesome job with his "I am the UNITED STATES CHAMPION"-bit. And the tag match, Sheamus/Cena, and Miz/Kingston were three pretty good matches, though I'm tiring quickly of the "match warms up/take a break just when it's getting good" formula.

And I thought the Cena/Sheamus match should have been for the title because it would've made sense for Cena to get Vince so flustered that he would not only invite Bret back but also give Cena exactly what he wanted.



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Shawn and Hunter don't have to be the last two guys in the Rumble. As long as one of the two eliminates the other, that is! But it doesn't really matter when it will happen, imo!

As far as Raw is concerned: Great show! Miz was great again, as was MVP (can't belive this)! Even Cena was good!



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    Originally posted by It's False
    Also like that he caved in to his baser instincts and decided to try and wipe out Cena before Cena made the superman comeback.
Was nobody else annoyed by this? It's getting old and is a big reason why so many people hate Cena.
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Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by Broncolanche
      Originally posted by It's False
      Also like that he caved in to his baser instincts and decided to try and wipe out Cena before Cena made the superman comeback.
    Was nobody else annoyed by this? It's getting old and is a big reason why so many people hate Cena.
He could at least act tired or sell the beating Sheamus was giving to him prior to Randy showing up. He was next to dead outside on the floor, then suddenly he's all better & pumped up like nothing happened. It was a little weird.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
Does Sheamus have a last name? I know they made a big deal about Kenny not having one when he was around.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.97
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by Broncolanche
        Originally posted by It's False
        Also like that he caved in to his baser instincts and decided to try and wipe out Cena before Cena made the superman comeback.
      Was nobody else annoyed by this? It's getting old and is a big reason why so many people hate Cena.
    He could at least act tired or sell the beating Sheamus was giving to him prior to Randy showing up. He was next to dead outside on the floor, then suddenly he's all better & pumped up like nothing happened. It was a little weird.
Exactly! That's why I was so irritated by it. It's gotten a lot worse than Hogan's "hulk up" routine.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Does Sheamus have a last name? I know they made a big deal about Kenny not having one when he was around.
It was O'Shaunessy in developmental, but it's never been said on WWE TV.

I'd just be happy if they spelled his first name "Seamus" as God intended.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.45
There is just something about Sheamus that makes it difficult for me to watch.
His skin is obnoxiously white and his orange hair is too orange. He looks more like a CGI character than an actual person

Maybe it will just take time to adjust. I remember thinking about what a goof Brock Lesnar looked like and how un-badass he seemed, but it doesn't cross my mind now.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.92
    Originally posted by dwaters
    He looks more like a CGI character than an actual person.


Maybe this is more acceptable in the era of Avatar?



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.45
    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
      Originally posted by dwaters
      He looks more like a CGI character than an actual person.


    Maybe this is more acceptable in the era of Avatar?


Only if he was blue. Maybe a Blue Meanie comeback is in order.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by Broncolanche
        Originally posted by It's False
        Also like that he caved in to his baser instincts and decided to try and wipe out Cena before Cena made the superman comeback.
      Was nobody else annoyed by this? It's getting old and is a big reason why so many people hate Cena.
    He could at least act tired or sell the beating Sheamus was giving to him prior to Randy showing up. He was next to dead outside on the floor, then suddenly he's all better & pumped up like nothing happened. It was a little weird.

To be fair, I can see why it needed to be done this week. Sheamus/Orton is hardly their major selling point for the Royal Rumble, which is never anything but a one-match show, and having Cena standing tall leading in is designed to make you think he might win it. If Cena just sat outside the ring selling, while Orton salivates and punches the canvas like he did for most of the last two years, it doesn't really give you that high energy push to whet the appetites of fans and make them want to see the show. Last year's go-home show prior to the Rumble saw Orton kicking Vince in the head, which, aside from being a little WTF, was useless in selling the show and really had nothing to do with the Rumble.

I agree Sheamus is hard to look at. I find his complexion repulsive.

Good show. The dX tension is good, but to me the prospect of another HBK/Taker match is flawed. It will be virtually impossible to replicate the quality of that last bout, which was a situation where everything just somehow came together, including various intangibles that you simply can't count on. Taker is noticeably more broken down even compared with just a year ago, and Shawn, as a character if you do this match, to my mind really has to win it. Making this big a deal out of it and then having him fail again just castrates him, but by the same token, I don't think you really want to end that streak of Taker's. It might have meant something to do that in the early 2000s, but at this point, the fans will only shit on it. No one wants to see that. Granted, Vince does have a hard-on for forcing stuff on the fans they clearly and vehemently want to reject, but I would think his respect for 'Taker would take over here. And Taker certainly deserves respect in what now, you've got to figure is the eleventh hour of his career. I have completely blocked the American Badass period out of my mind, and I think most fans have, because he's put on some of his best matches in the last five or so years. And that gimmick was shitty and embarrassing. But I figure, let him have his streak, something special and unique to him and him alone. That's a better gesture than a bunch of two-month titles reigns. So really, as intriguing as it is, they're booking themselves into a corner.

Hunter screwing HBK and them doing a match is more interesting to me. Especially since it negates the utter fucking absurdity that would be a Hunter/Seamus title bout.





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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.44
    Originally posted by HMD
    Shawn, as a character if you do this match, to my mind really has to win it. Making this big a deal out of it and then having him fail again just castrates him, but by the same token, I don't think you really want to end that streak of Taker's. It might have meant something to do that in the early 2000s, but at this point, the fans will only shit on it. No one wants to see that.


Agreed with all of this which is why I'm starting to kind of sort of think Shawn should win? Because if the goal is to create an all-time memorable moment for Wrestlemania, Michaels winning the title and ending the streak in the main event after a match as good as they'll have could end up as one of wrestling's signature moments and something that gets looked back upon for a long time. Yeah, Undertaker's streak could be used to make some new star but I kind of see it like Ric Flair's "last" match where the only guy who could provide the kind of epic match you needed Flair's last one to be was Michaels. Same with Undertaker losing at Wrestlemania; if Undertaker lost and it wasn't an epic, emotional war, people would reject that. If Michaels wins a classic match in dramatic fashion, people are gonna be like holy fuck, that just happened.

The streak is a pretty valuable thing to give up since Undertaker's match can be a major selling point at Wrestlemania every year (Cena vs. the streak next year could be a big deal, for instance). But if Undertaker is getting excessively broken down, he might want to have a classic match where the streak is broken while he still can.

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