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TONIGHT: Perhaps the biggest tag match in Raw history (that’s what they tell me, anyway) will take place tonight, as John Cena & The Undertaker face DX and Chris Jericho & Big Show in a three-team showdown. Also, Alicia Fox cashes in her Divas Title opportunity against Melina. And, we’re getting a new Raw opening tonight! It’s Madison Square Garden, so you know WWE will pull out all the stops. “Rowdy” Roddy Piper is hosting, and JR said on his blog to expect surprises and also some members of the New York Yankees. Last time he said to expect surprises, it was for a PPV, and they didn’t seem to follow through.

-WWE Open.

-Roddy Piper was backstage and said Piper’s Pit would return tonight. He was with actor Luis Guzman, who stars in “Old Dogs,” a Disney movie coming out soon with Robin Williams. Piper said he knew Guzman was a big foodie, so he brought the Iron Chef, Bobby Flay. The Bellas walked in Iron Sheik instead. Well, it’s close. Guzman mentioned Hogan, and Sheiky went on a rant. Piper talked aside to Guzman for a bit and accidentally said Hogan again and Sheik again shouted about him and had two wrestling figures battling it out. Then all three shouted, “live from New York, it’s Monday Night Raw!”

-The new Raw opening aired. Eh, it was OK. Sounded like a bit of the old school Raw theme at the end. I didn’t really catch where our “Hey!” shouts came into play though, as the usual “Hey!” sounded like straight from the song.

-It’s DX vs. Cena & Taker vs. Show & Jericho tonight, and Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler talked about it for a bit. As usual, the preview graphics have been updated as well.

-We’ve got the trademark MSG short entranceway too as Miz made his way to the ring for a U.S. Title match. Miz did some pre-match mic work and said he thought New York loved champions, like the New York Yankees. Miz said the Yanks didn’t earn the World Series title, they bought it. They chanted something I couldn’t distinguish. Miz said he didn’t have to buy the U.S. Title, he earned it. And per Roddy Piper, he has to defend it tonight. Miz didn’t appear to know who his opponent would be.

(1) The Miz vs. MVP– United States Championship Match
MVP came to the ring with a Yankees hat and handed it off to The View’s Sherri Shepherd, who was at ringside cheering him on. Miz leveled MVP in the corner, but MVP came back and took Miz to the outside. MVP went after him and got the best of Miz there, but got kicked in the leg coming back into the ring. Miz threw MVP into the ring post on the outside, then worked the chin-lock back in. MVP came back with clotheslines and used the knee for a face-buster. “Ballin’!” elbowdrop found the mark. Playmaker was dodged, but Miz ran into a big boot for a near-fall for MVP. A few seconds later, Miz recovered enough to hit the Skull-Crushing Finale for the win.

Winner: Miz, at 3:46. Short, but fine while it lasted. Not sure how MVP got this shot, but they must’ve wanted to get Sherri onto the show.

-They hyped up Alicia Fox vs. Melina for the Divas Championship, which is still to come.

[Commercial Break]

(2) Chavo Guerrero vs. Santino Marella
Chavo was already in the ring. Santino came out with a New York Rangers jersey. Cheap heat is in full effect tonight. Santino took off the Rangers jersey to reveal a New York Giants jersey. Before they locked up, he took that off and had a New York Knicks jersey on. Boos for that. Then took that off and unveiled a New York Jets jersey (Mark Sanchez’s). Finally, a Mets jersey. Johan Santana’s. More heat for that. And again, he took it off…..and had a Phillies jersey on. That went about as well as you’d expect. Finally, it was a Yankees jersey. Chavo finally shook his hand to start things off, but kicked him in the gut and gave him the Three Amigos. He wanted a frog-splash, but Santino moved out of the way, so he went to the other side of the ring. So Santino rolled to the other side. Chavo again went to that side and again Santino rolled away. Crowd was eating this up. Hornswoggle came from under the ring with his DX gear on and did the crotch chop at Chavo. Marella rolled Chavo up for three.

Winner: Marella, at 2:50. More fun that Chavo’s recent exploits. And I thought his thing with Hornswoggle was over when he refused to attack him?

-Immediately after, DX themselves came out. Triple H started off by saying they were in the most famous arena in the world and that the DX Army was in the house. Triple H said they wanted to come out, have some fun, embarrass some people, and sell some merchandise. But, that’s not going to happen. Shawn said they’re not going to come out and plug their book (which he did). They showed Sherri Shepherd with her own copy. Hunter said they were going to talk about the big, fat elephant in the room- not Big Show- but the Triple-Threat match at Survivor Series. Major boos at Cena’s name being dropped. Triple H said DX will not implode at Survivor Series- he and Shawn are on the same page and are a unit. He said it doesn’t matter which of them wins the title, as long as it comes to DX. Shawn agreed but said they would compete at the PPV. He moved on to talking to one member of the leprechaun community. Trips said he knew Hornswoggle was under the ring wearing merchandise he did not pay for. He said if Horny came out now, he and Shawn would consider letting him be a member of DX. He did oblige them, jumping around the ring doing the crotch chop at Hunter and Shawn. He asked Hornswoggle, “are you ready?” Triple H then did the usual DX spiel, but stopped short, kicked Hornswoggle in the gut, and set him up for the Pedigree. He soaked in the moment, then dropped him on his face. Hunter seemed quite pleased with his handiwork. Shawn finished it with the “If you’re not down with that, I’ve got two words for ya.” The fans treated DX as heels there, but they all chanted “suck it” at the end. Out from under the ring, they got a mini stretcher with “DX” spray-painted on it. They carried Hornswoggle to the back. I’m not sure how I’m supposed to feel after that. There’s a PPV in six days and DX was out there for over 10 minutes and the focus…..was on Hornswoggle? That doesn’t make a ton of sense.

[Commercial Break]

-Once back from the commercial, they showed Triple H turning on Hornswoggle prior to the break.

-“Empire State of Mind” by Jay-Z is off his “The Blueprint 3” CD. Apparently, it has something to do with “MSG Moments” that Jerry Lawler keeps talking about.

-Cole and Lawler talked about the Garden for a while, then we got a video package on the relationship between WWE and Madison Square Garden throughout history. And that’s where the song comes into play. Clips included Hogan beating Sheik, Bob Backlund as champ, the Ladder Match, Austin stunning Vince, Snuka off the cage, Savage and Hogan’s handshake, Warrior winning the title, Triple H’s return from injury, Cena’s return at the Rumble, Kane unmasking, Guerrero beating Angle at Wrestlmania, Cactus Jack with his barbed wire, Austin stunning Lesnar and Goldberg, and Ric Flair back in the good ol’ days.

-Another plug for the Triple Threat Tag Match.

-Backstage, Piper was in his office with a fire extinguisher and some coconuts. Chris Jericho walked in and instead of portraits of Piper, Jericho said he should have a portrait of HIM. Piper blew his nose as Jericho was talking. He said he had something special for Jericho and brought Chris Masters into the picture. Piper told someone to hit the music and they played Black Eyed Peas’ “Boom, Boom Boom” as Masters flexed his pecs to the music. He left with the Bellas. Is he the new “Meat”? Piper said it was good talking to Jericho.

-The two unimportant members of the Black Eyed Peas were in the audience.

-Melina and Alicia Fox were walking backstage. Divas Championship Match is next.

[Commercial Break]


-Justin Roberts introduced “30 Rock” star Judah Friedlander, and introduced him as “the greatest athlete in the world.” He was also in “The Wrestler” and has worn WWE-related hats and shirts on 30 Rock. Friedlander came out to the 30 Rock theme song. He was the guest ring announcer for the Divas Championship. Fox insisted Friedlander introduce him as future Divas Champion. Judah said he only came out to see Melina’s entrance and to announce that the title match is now a Divas lumberjack match.

(3) Melina vs. Alicia Fox- Divas Championship, Lumberjill Match
They can’t seem to decide on Lumberjack or Lumberjill from shot to show. The lumberjills were all the wrestlers involved in the Survivor Series tag match. Melina was thrown out and all the heels started attacking her. Fox with a hair toss back in for a one-count. Melina came back and face-planted Fox. Tilt-a-whirl back-breaker by Fox for two. She appeared to be going for something, but Melina maneuvered around to hit the Code Red for three.

Winner: Melina, at 1:36. I would’ve preferred to see a longer version of this match.

The divas all started brawling in the ring after the match. The faces came out on top, and Friedlander celebrated and danced with them.

-Rowdy Roddy Piper will be in the ring next. Hopefully, not wrestling.

[Commercial Break]

-WWE.com was plugged at this point.

-Cole talked about WWE re-upping with USA Network today, keeping Raw on the air through 2014. Lawler called it the greatest tag-team of all-time.

-Roddy Piper came out. Piper talked about how things have changed and told the cameraman if he stood in his face all night, he’d kick him in the slats. Whatever that is. Hilariously, you saw the camera pan back at that point. Roddy talked about his history in New York City and in MSG. He said something about the dead ones and the bald ones, and said he loves the dead ones…not so much the bald ones. Piper said he’s the reason Hogan has no hair. He kind of rambled on and it was getting kind of weird to watch. Piper said he’s done some unspeakable things in MSG…..and he’s loved them all. He said he had one more dirty job to do before he checks out with the rest of’em. He said he wanted one more match with Vincent Kennedy McMahon. Piper said he got fired after being on Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel, right there at MSG. Piper said McMahon has a soft spot in his wallet, so he knows he’s back there. Then Vince’s music interrupted and McMahon strutted out.

McMahon said Piper did a nice dye job on his hair. He said the worst thing Piper ever did in the Garden was to show up tonight. He said Mother Nature has not been kind to Hot Rod. He complimented Roddy on the toothpick arms, knobby knees and catcher’s-mitt face. McMahon went after the kilt next. He said if he was to soil his hands with Piper tonight (good wording), his forefathers would be ashamed. Piper said there are plenty of things to be ashamed about Vince for, mostly the suit that he’s wearing now. Vince said people tell him all the time that they want to look as good as he does at his age and Vince tells them they don’t look that good now. He said that goes for The Rock, Triple H, Steve Austin, everyone in the back and everyone who has ever stepped foot in the ring. Either the writers are trying to suck up to Vince or he’s feeling really insecure. Vince said he’s retired. Piper said that’s another word for “coward.” Piper talked about all the things that have happened to him and that he beat all that, so he can beat Vince too. He wanted to make Vince accountable to those who made Vince a billionaire. Piper said he doesn’t want this at a PPV or Wrestlemania, he wants to see if McMahon has the guts tonight. Piper said he’ll be here tonight and he wants to retire Vince “for full.” Vince was using the two mics for some….odd things. McMahon started talking over the mic, but they cut him off and instead showed a preview screen for the triple-threat tag match tonight.

[Commercial Break- they plugged the three-hour Raw next week, with Jesse Ventura as guest host.]

-A shot of New York City was shown.

-The announcers wondered if Mr. McMahon would accept Piper’s challenge for tonight.

-Sheamus came to the ring and got the mic prior to his match. He talked about the destruction he has left in his wake already. He made an open challenge to anyone. No one came out so he went over and handed the mic to Justin Roberts. He grabbed Mark Yeaton by the jaw and kneed him right in the gut. He threw Yeaton across the announce table and to the floor. Jerry Lawler took off his headset and went to check on Yeaton, but Sheamus gave him a nice-looking wheel kick. Sheamus assessed the damage and walked to the back. Referees and medics came out and tended to the fallen Raw workers. They replayed Sheamus’ attack, then showed the medics walking the injured guys to the back as a fan implored Lawler to “come back and kick his ass, King!”

[Commercial Break]

-Back live, with Matt Striker joining Michael Cole on the announce team. Cole said Striker lived in NYC and was at the show. After talking about the attack, the two men plugged the Survivor Series card.

-Evan Bourne and Jack Swagger made their entrances. They face each other next.

[Commercial Break]

(4) Evan Bourne vs. Jack Swagger
Match was joined in progress with Swagger holding a tight waist-lock around Bourne. Bourne knee’d his way out of a suplex and rolled Swagger up for two. Kick to the head of Swagger, then Bourne came off the top with what appeared to be knees to the face. Swagger caught a moonsault attempt and rammed Bourne into the ring posts. Swagger Bomb and a nice one for the win.

Winner: Swagger, at 2:03. The announcers only mentioned that these two are in a Survivor Series match against each other AFTER the match.

-Piper was walking backstage. Will McMahon show up for a street fight? We’ll find out…next.

[Commercial Break]

-Piper was in the ring, spoiling for a fight. A streetfight. As Piper got the mic, Randy Orton’s music played and he came out. Orton said he doesn’t know if McMahon is coming out or not, but he does know that Piper has a big problem. Because he’s here. Crowd is pro-Orton. He said putting Piper down would relieve some stress. He said if it’s a fight Orton wants, then….and then Piper got kicked in the gut. Striker brought up Orton’s father’s past with Piper. Cole said he didn’t think that was a factor. “Why not?” asked Striker, which was pretty funny, as Cole was going on his diatribe. Piper got a punch in, but Orton took him down and kicked away at him. He set up for the punt, but stopped short. Kofi Kingston’s music played too late, as Orton had to stop rather than have the music interrupt him. Orton got a kick in as Kofi came out. He chased Orton off and even attacked him in the entranceway. Piper made it back up and cheered on Kingston. He tossed Orton into the crowd and both men brawled through the fans. Back at ringside, Orton slammed Kofi’s head into the ring steps. As Orton set Kofi up for the Punt, Kofi got up and attacked. Orton again went to ringside to catch his breath, but Kofi wouldn’t let him. Finally, the two were separated by referees. They didn’t do such a good job, as Kofi threw Orton into the tech pit. “The viper’s pit” said Cole. Ugh. He took one of the metal cases and nailed Orton in the head with it. He stood atop the railing and was going to splash Orton through a table, but the refs pulled him down. Kingston got away and did the double leg-drop onto Orton and through the table. He got some good height on that one too. Well, almost two hours in, they finally got a decent plug in for a match at the PPV on Sunday.

-Next is the Triple-Threat tag match.

[Commercial Break]

-Striker plugged Nickelback’s latest album, since they now provide the new Raw theme song.

-Backstage, John Cena talked to the camera. He called Big Show “the overweight NWO Telly Savalas.” He basically gave “funny” nicknames to all his opponents for tonight’s match. Cena said Taker, his partner, is very difficult to talk to. He wondered how he’d stand a chance against DX on Sunday. As Cena was cutting his promo, a guy interrupted and handed a note to Cena. He said he didn’t believe it was real. “That changes everything” he said. Cena said he made a mistake, that it’s not a handicap match at Survivor Series; it’s a Triple-Threat match. Somehow, he fit in a reference to the Ghostbusters saving New York City from the Marshmallow Man. Cena said DX has to make a choice on Sunday. He said he hopes they stay friends, because they’ll need a shoulder to lean on the next night when the realize the champ is still here.

-Jericho and Big Show made their entrance. The match is next. And it’s 10:58.

[Commercial Break]

-Cole mentioned that Jesse Ventura was going to be hosting Raw next.

(5) Chris Jericho & Big Show vs. DX vs. John Cena & The Undertaker- Triple-Threat Tag Match
We got the special Undertaker entrance with druid chants and they accompanied him to the ring. I can’t remember the last time I saw this format: Triple-Threat rules (three men in the ring at a time), with wrestlers being only able to tag their own partners. All three men rotated out before even touching. Bell rang at 11:07, btw. Triple H and Taker eyed each other, then turned their attention to Big Show. They double-teamed him and Taker clotheslined him over the top. He then took Hunter to the mat and gave him some soupbones. But Triple H landed a spinebuster and HBK wanted to tag in. Here we go. Michaels chopped at Taker. He tried to skin the cat, but Taker stopped him. Show came back in and speared Taker, then clobbered Michaels. Jericho came in and celebrated without doing anything. He bulldogged Michaels down, but his lionsault was met with knees. Jericho grabbed the legs and turned it into a Walls of Jericho. Taker got Jericho by the throat and Cena tagged himself in. Hunter and Cena double-teamed Jericho, then stared each other in the face. Cena gave him the “you can’t see me” and Hunter gave him the crotch chop. Big Show double-chokeslammed them. Taker came in and gave Show a flying clothesline. Action is hot and heavy here. Hunter, Cena and Jericho were all down. Michaels tagged in and took the fight to Jericho. Elbowdrop off the top, then he set up Sweet Chin Music. He missed Cena, who hit him with a couple shoulder tackles. Cena got HBK up for the Attitude Adjustment, but Hunter tagged himself in and went ahead with his vintage offense. Michaels ended up superkicking Show, but Jericho hit the Codebreaker on Michaels. Chokeslam from Taker on Jericho. Cena got HHH up for the Attitude Adjustment, landed it, and picked up the win.

Winners: Cena & Taker, at 7:05.

After the match, Taker grabbed Cena and Tombstoned him. Taker’s music played and we’re out at 11:15.
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MSG looked awesome. I loved the old school WrestleMania X look with no Titan Tron, ramp, or stage and the HD screens lining the aisles. I wish Howard Finkel announced RAW instead of Justin Roberts and Judah Friedlander.

The ringside area looked like it was twice as big from the barricade to the ring.

Piper's Pit with Piper, Luis Guzman and Iron Sheik, and Guzman was the most coherent of the three.

For a guy with a reputation as one of the all time great promo men, Piper was pwned by Vince McMahon, who's truly one of the greatest promo men ever. Vince killed Piper on the mic. I'm pretty sure that was the first time Vince has been on RAW since the guest host gimmick started.

Teasing Vince vs. Piper made me wonder: Can something be considered a tease if it's something you don't want?

I have to say Sheamus is not working for me. They can book him to brutalize anyone they want, but there's a piece of the puzzle missing and I think I've identified it: It's his face. His facial expressions do not intimidate. He looks like a big goober who fell off the turnip truck.

On the other hand, Kofi Kingston had a rocket strapped to his ass. They shot him into the stratosphere tonight. He's a made man in MSG. I hope he buys Randy a new car as a thank you to replace the one he trashed when his push started. Plus, Orton bled hardway. I get so unreasonably happy these days when I see blood.

Druids! I love Druids. I also liked the All Finisher Jamboree the main event turned into. That was an entertaining spectacle. Except... By Tombstoning Cena, they just opened the door for Cena to end The Streak at WrestleMania. Oh God... my worst nightmare. Talk about a tease...
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I wish every week could have such a special event feeling, but I guess that's the MSG effect.

Entertaining show tonight, I think. Piper was on and off, depending on how crazy he went. The Sheik stuff didn't do much for me, but they actually KINDA made me want to see Piper vs Vince tonight, as horrible as it probably would've been.

Santino's building up a cheering section again... I wish they'd do something with it.

Loved the "Empire State of Mind" video. Not quite on the level of the Kid Rock "Lonely Road of Faith" compilation from years back, but it worked.

Agree on DX-Hornswoggle - the focus should be on DX, not their comedic sidekick when there is a big show at the end of the week.

I need more of Layla on Raw.

Kofi's star is rising very quickly. I'm sure having Orton as a foil helps a lot, but I can actually picture seeing Kofi at MSG as world or WWE champion this time next year if they keep the push alive.

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Interesting show. It almost seemed like WWE was using MSG as the venue to feature who they will be pushing as the young stars of the next couple of years --- Kofi, Miz, Sheamus and Swagger. All had strong segments, though I wish we could've seen more of the Swagger-Bourne match. Kudos to the King for taking that stiff-ass kick to the chops.

The Hornswoggle thing was baffling. First of all, everyone is right that a week before the PPV, DX shouldn't be bothering to deal with a comedy angle. Secondly, wasn't that a heel turn? It sounded like Cole and Lawler didn't know how to react to such a blatantly heel act. If nothing else, I thought Michaels would've reacted with shock at HHH, thus planting some seeds for dissent in the ranks at Survivor Series.

    Originally posted by andy1278
    Kofi's star is rising very quickly. I'm sure having Orton as a foil helps a lot, but I can actually picture seeing Kofi at MSG as world or WWE champion this time next year if they keep the push alive.


I think we have our favourite for the Money in the Bank match at Wrestlemania.


    Did Piper have his promo written on his left hand? There was a long spot where he was staring at his hand, while not saying anything. It looked like there were some markings on it.


"I'm tired of everyone making jokes about my giant hand! The first such incident occurred in 1956 when..."


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I think I like RAW without the TitanTron now. Man Piper gave some awesome shoot comments tonight. The comments on Hogan were great! I kind of wished Joey Styles was announcing the Kofi/Orton fight. Great show tonight!

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So, what IS the point of this angle with DX and their merchandise? And when exactly did Shawn and HHH get the rights to the DX name from their last known owners, Road Dogg and X-Pac? And did I just answer my first question?

Did Piper have his promo written on his left hand? There was a long spot where he was staring at his hand, while not saying anything. It looked like there were some markings on it.

    Originally posted by geemoney
    Striker brought up Orton’s father’s past with Piper. Cole said he didn’t think that was a factor. “Why not?” asked Striker, which was pretty funny, as Cole was going on his diatribe.

Randy isn't fighting for the honor of his dad. That's not anywhere in Randy's character anymore. Randy would sooner RKO his dad than defend him. Striker bringing that up was kind of stupid and not really correct. I mean, I know it's cool when Striker brings up the past and uses it to try to tell a richer story, but it wasn't appropriate here.



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    Originally posted by Mr Shh


      Originally posted by geemoney
      Striker brought up Orton’s father’s past with Piper. Cole said he didn’t think that was a factor. “Why not?” asked Striker, which was pretty funny, as Cole was going on his diatribe.

    Randy isn't fighting for the honor of his dad. That's not anywhere in Randy's character anymore. Randy would sooner RKO his dad than defend him. Striker bringing that up was kind of stupid and not really correct. I mean, I know it's cool when Striker brings up the past and uses it to try to tell a richer story, but it wasn't appropriate here.

Yeah, I wasn't saying "he had a good point," just that it was funny that he wanted Cole to elaborate, when announcers just usually banter back and forth without much interruption of each other.
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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Except... By Tombstoning Cena, they just opened the door for Cena to end The Streak at WrestleMania. Oh God... my worst nightmare. Talk about a tease...


That would be a great WM match since it'd have true intrigue, but there's no way Cena would actually win. People would reject it more than anything he's done, and it would hurt both guys. It actually does more for Cena's legacy to lose to Undertaker in a great match at Wrestlemania.

I really wanted Cena vs. heel Batista though.
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    Originally posted by geemoney
      Originally posted by Mr Shh


        Originally posted by geemoney
        Striker brought up Orton’s father’s past with Piper. Cole said he didn’t think that was a factor. “Why not?” asked Striker, which was pretty funny, as Cole was going on his diatribe.

      Randy isn't fighting for the honor of his dad. That's not anywhere in Randy's character anymore. Randy would sooner RKO his dad than defend him. Striker bringing that up was kind of stupid and not really correct. I mean, I know it's cool when Striker brings up the past and uses it to try to tell a richer story, but it wasn't appropriate here.

    Yeah, I wasn't saying "he had a good point," just that it was funny that he wanted Cole to elaborate, when announcers just usually banter back and forth without much interruption of each other.

Sorry, man - was directing that at Striker, not you. :-) I wonder if Matt caught Cole off-guard with a little ad-libbing while Cole was trying to pay attention to the voices in the headset. That would be funny.



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Thank you MSG for once again bringing the best out of the WWE.

So much good tonight. I think this was the best RAW in ages, certainly of the last year.

Shamus continues to make me laugh. He reminds me of James Hetfield a little.

Kofi Kingston got a hold of a low, outside pitch and somehow crushed it out of the park!! That crowd was SO pro Orton before the segment started, and Kofi left there with the entire arena behind him. This is what you do when you are given the proverbial ball. The future is looking very bright for that young man. As an added bonus, they actually got me interested in their feud, even if it did end in the somewhat overdone babyface laying out the heel (especially with Orton) ending. they should have had it be a brawl all around the arena with no clear winner, although they really got Kingston over as at Orton's level with that ending, so I see their reasoning.

Am I the only one who felt Cole and Striker had terrific chemistry? Cole and Striker were way better than Cole and Lawler. Thats not a knock on anyone, especially Lawler, but maybe its time to try out some new teams? Maybe even a three man booth with Striker, Cole and The King?
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A very good Raw even with the subpar Roddy Piper performance in my opinion.

Kofi Johnson, err Kingston is so over right now. And give Orton a ton of credit for really putting him over also.

Legacy must be buried for now, stuck in mid-card status.

They still need a new #1 heel on Raw.. My choice, turn Cena heel at Survivor Series. He's run his course as a face and already gets a lot of crap from the fans. Turning him into a heel would bring new life with his character.

I hope they don't replace Justin Roberts as the announcer, he's great in that role.

Nice to hear Ventura is coming back as guest host.

Undertaker piledriving Cena gave the fans a good go home gift.

Great crowd there, they really should do Raw in NYC more often.
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Since: 25.6.03
From: Home of The Big House

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.51
    Originally posted by CajunMan
    I think I like RAW without the TitanTron now.


Are they going without the TitanTron? I thought it was just a one-time deal because they were at MSG and often have that setup instead of the traditional side entrace with TitanTron.

Can't say that I'd miss it either way.
Spiraling_Shape
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Since: 2.1.02
From: PA

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.83
I think Piper said "kick you in the slacks."

Lots of random-Hogan-bashing as his TNA-return draws near.

I liked seeing noted wrestling fan Judah Friedlander but the Parade Of Stars was a bit overkill at times...

Where was Natalya in the lumberjill match?



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Spaceman Spiff
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Since: 2.1.02
From: Philly Suburbs

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Cena ending Undertaker's streak would be awesome, if only to see the internet collectively lose its shit. It'd be glorious. Of course, I like Cena & hate Taker, so I'd be pulling for Cena even if there wasn't a streak on the line.


    They still need a new #1 heel on Raw.. My choice, turn Cena heel at Survivor Series. He's run his course as a face and already gets a lot of crap from the fans. Turning him into a heel would bring new life with his character.

Ain't happening.





djp
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Since: 16.2.07
From: 3rd Floor, NW window

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
    Originally posted by John Orquiola

    I have to say Sheamus is not working for me. They can book him to brutalize anyone they want, but there's a piece of the puzzle missing and I think I've identified it: It's his face. His facial expressions do not intimidate. He looks like a big goober who fell off the turnip truck.




Agreed. He was perfect for ECW, but when he's still relatively new to the RAW scene, having him stand there looking all mean just doesn't seem to fit. Like Swagger, he was a better fit at ECW, but for different reasons.

Once again, I was afraid Kofi was going to slip and hurt himself. He went back to the railing a second time and his right foot slipped a little - nice recovery though.
JimBob Skeeter
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Since: 2.1.02
From: MN

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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
It is really hard to get into Sheamus as he looks like the Sherminator on roids.
I was very happy when I came back after putting the kids to bed to hear Strikers voice and not King's. Please let this happen at next year's draft.
HHH pedigreeing Hornswoggle was........weird, just for his facial expression.
Druids rule. Cena being Tombstoned ruled even more.
I can't wait for Jesse next week. Striker's impersonation was fucking great, too!
Angry Kofi is good Kofi.
dwaters
Lap cheong








Since: 16.10.02
From: Connecticut

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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.39
    Originally posted by geemoney

    -The two unimportant members of the Black Eyed Peas were in the audience.




Hilarious!
So true. So funny.
lotjx
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.13
Kofi is now a star. MSG is the gauge of stars and Kofi walked out with no love then proceeded to get the entire place on his side. I like his new wild man style reminds me of Snakua. I did like Taker tombstoning Cena. I still think Batista/Cena will happen at Mania instead of Taker/Cena. Anyone else notice HBK changing his wristbands from green to white when he went in after Taker? I do think Shawn or HHH is going to turn heel since they have no other heels for Cena to face. Of course, this is what you get when you book someone like a face God and not elevating any other heels.
spf
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Cena ending Undertaker's streak would be awesome, if only to see the internet collectively lose its shit. It'd be glorious. Of course, I like Cena & hate Taker, so I'd be pulling for Cena even if there wasn't a streak on the line.
Seconded.

Also, I'm pretty sure considering the overly smarky nature of WM weekend crowds that the riot the fans promised at One Night Stand a few years back would actually happen if Cena broke the streak.



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Since: 2.6.03
From: Littleton, CO

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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.96
All I'm going to say is that the rise of Kofi Kingston is making me get into the WWE again. As someone nearing 30, I found it hard to resist jumping around like my 10-year-old self when he beat down Orton.
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