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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
    Originally posted by kentish
    I really hope they are not going to do this 1 on 3 Legends match. It makes all the legends look weak.


I'd prefer a 3-on-1 over Jericho taking on only one of them. I always found it extremely stupid that a current wrestler sells for a guy 20 years past his prime who has a hard time throwing believable punches. But we all know Jericho would also job to their mothers, that's how weak he comes out in ALL of his feuds.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.15
    Originally posted by KJames199
      Originally posted by Oliver
      I hadn't caught the episode yet (thank GOD that The Score here shows it again today at 4:00pm) but that's what I'll take as the truth.
    Don't thank God that there's a replay. Thank God that you missed this shit show in the first place. It's a sign.
I usually feel that way when I read up on TNA's results.

But I digress.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.18
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Is JBL's title defense the history he earlier claimed he wanted to make? That's it?


My guess is that JBL will retire after losing to Rey Mysterio, just like last time.


    Ziggler is a better worker than Randy Orton, and that's not right.


That's not right. He's literally all elbows.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    Jericho/Lawler is a Raw match, this is not as great as Jericho vs Austin or Hogan, but at least its is somewhat interesting.


If Jericho-King is a Raw match, then this backwards mess is a Taboo Tuesday match.

    Originally posted by UnsUwe
    But we all know Jericho would also job to their mothers, that's how weak he comes out in ALL of his feuds.


Although, Jericho won his last two matches against HBK, I think.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.33
Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by KJames199
    I get together with some friends for the big PPVs. This year, we'd actually talked about going to WM. Luckily, that fell through, but we're still planning on getting together to watch the show. Anyway, after Raw, I sent them an email reading, in its entirety: "Fuck it, seriously." Within seconds I got a reply saying essentially the same thing. Less cussing but the idea was the same.
Same here, almost. I've gotten together with friends for every WM since XV, and it finally hit me this morning that I have no interest in XXV.

But it's XXV, right? Silver Anniversary! I have to go, right?? If I do end up going, it'll only be because it's XXV :(



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
JBL will retire, except he'll win at Wrestlemania and RETIRE the IC belt with him.

Big Show has zero percent chance at winning the triple threat match. I would put Cena as a 94 percent favorite to win.

I missed the first 30 seconds of Raw but did they even mention Test death last night?

MiTB winner at WM cashes in at WM either right after the Orton/HHH match or the triple threat match.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
    Originally posted by KJames199
      I get together with some friends for the big PPVs. This year, we'd actually talked about going to WM. Luckily, that fell through, but we're still planning on getting together to watch the show. Anyway, after Raw, I sent them an email reading, in its entirety: "Fuck it, seriously." Within seconds I got a reply saying essentially the same thing. Less cussing but the idea was the same.


    Just about ditto. I get together with a friend for the bigger PPVs but both of us will be in Vegas for different reasons on WM weekend this year and will be unable to catch the show live (although I think he could get the replay if it turns out to actually be worth paying for). Of course, given the buildup for the show, I'm not all that disappointed I'll be missing it for the first time in a long time (WM13 I believe - I grew up out in the sticks and didn't have easy access to cable first and then good ppv-available cable later back in the day). Short story long . . . they had gotten me to watch Raw semi-regularly again after football season was over, but I've never been less enthused for a WM that I had seen the buildup for.



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#27 Posted on
I don't usually post on the RAW threads, but the discussion about last night's show and the inability of anyone on it to see the sodding great big steel cage hanging above their heads, I'm wondering:

Is this whole angle--with its frantic Scooby-Doo chases backstage, the slowest home invasion ever, the principals repeatedly beating each other until they drool, and being tricked by a slowly lowering cage--some kind of exaggerated deadpan satire of 90's Attitude-era angles or something?

I know it's all too likely that this is actually supposed to be as "real" as anything in wrestling is, but none of this works for me as anything but fodder for comedy.

The whole thing is SO serious that it's paradoxically impossible to take it seriously, even taking into account wrestling's rather laissez-faire relationship to reality.

Just asking.







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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.92
    Originally posted by Enojado Viento
    The whole thing is SO serious that it's paradoxically impossible to take it seriously, even taking into account wrestling's rather laissez-faire relationship to reality.

    Just asking.



It all depends on what Triple H said in the truck. It may have been a wink to the audience, but the mic didn't pick it up.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
This is the worst-looking WM card since...well, 2000 at least had Foley's main event and the excitement of the Radicals. XV? But that had the first-ever Rock/Austin main event. I guess XIII, with UT/Shawn as the Bret/Austin equivalent.
Shapiro, I'm with you. Never would've griped about the King had I known this was the alternative.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.85
In all fairness, I do recall watching shows, spotting the cage up in the air, and it NEVER coming down. I'm not saying putting the cage in the sky is the standard WWE rig, but it could explain the surprise of it being lowered. Even still, they're overdoing crap in this feud which is diminishing it.

You'll be able to tell if the Jericho/Los Tres Abuelos is the match you'll see on WM next week. If Jericho winds up fighting Mini-Piper, Mini-Snuka, and Mini-Steamboat, then it's on.

What irks me is that the two Main Event options for WM are either a triple-threat match or an Orton/HHH rehash. And furthermore, they'll probably make the match everybody's already seen the ME.

WM is looking like a lame duck this year.



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
    Originally posted by UnsUwe
      Originally posted by kentish
      I really hope they are not going to do this 1 on 3 Legends match. It makes all the legends look weak.


    I'd prefer a 3-on-1 over Jericho taking on only one of them. I always found it extremely stupid that a current wrestler sells for a guy 20 years past his prime who has a hard time throwing believable punches. But we all know Jericho would also job to their mothers, that's how weak he comes out in ALL of his feuds.


I have heard that Steamboat always said he had one match left in him. He looks to be in the best shape of them all, so I kind of wish they had gone with a one on one all along with Steamboat instead of this mess.

And Lexus, I won't catch WM this year for the first time since 1999, but mostly because I will be in Vegas. I'm not that worried, as there is nothing on this card that I want to see that I haven't seen already. I can always rent the DVD from Netflix a month alter to catch Shawn/Taker. I don't think the show will be lame duck bad, it might might
actually produce some great matches. It's just very unoriginal. Now if this were a SummerSlam, different story.




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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79
    Originally posted by shawnpatrick
    JBL will retire, except he'll win at Wrestlemania and RETIRE the IC belt with him.

    MiTB winner at WM cashes in at WM either right after the Orton/HHH match or the triple threat match.



1. If the writers really wanted to bust out their history books, they'd have JBL insist that Rey put up his career against the IC title, since it was Rey who 'retired' Bradshaw back in 2006.

2. Who in the MITB match do you see as being at that level? I could see one of the eight wrestlers winning and then using that win to build them up as a legit challenger, but nobody is ready to immediately step in and be a world champion on April 5. I'm talking in storyline terms only, of course, since I'd love to see someone like Punk as champ over, say, HHH.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.18
I think if they were going to do the "cash in on the same night" angle -- and it's surely coming some year -- there's no way they would've had all the definite non-winners like Jeff Hardy and Finlay talk on TV about how if they win, they'd challenge immediately that night. If that's the direction they were going, they'd never mention that possibility so it'd be more of a shock. Since this year has proven that that's apparently what it's all about.



    JBL will retire, except he'll win at Wrestlemania and RETIRE the IC belt with him.


That's not really a heel move, though.


    Big Show has zero percent chance at winning the triple threat match. I would put Cena as a 94 percent favorite to win.


I was thinking about this myself because it seems like Cena should definitely win, especially when he lost last year, but if Cena wins and Triple H moves back to Raw in the draft as expected, then both champions are still on Raw. Cena isn't going to Smackdown and I strongly doubt that Orton is now that he's become such a big deal. So I don't know where the belt ends up other than I know they'll need one on that side.
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.26

Someone on the Meltzer podcast last night suggested Rey Vs JBL could be mask vs career.

of course, pushing Rey strong seems to be something they never do.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.41
I'm mostly pissed that we didn't get a Jericho/Terry Funk showdown anywhere in this buildup.



(edited by BigDaddyLoco on 17.3.09 1936)
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.86
If they were going the comedy aspect of the cage, they should have had Hunter hold off the remaining members of Legacy long enough for them to actually build the cage around the ring.
Now, with all the prison talk, the dropping of the cage last night, and a few weeks ago the Mania 2 package where they talked about the only time the title was defended in a cage match, would they go Orton vs. Hunter in a steel cage to main event Mania?
Jericho needs to recruit Sgt. Slaughter, Greg Valentine and #1 Paul Jones to counteract the Mid-Atlantic grouping he is facing.
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
WM always has a surprise. This year, could it be the retun of Batista??????? If he's ready & rumors say he will be, I would get him into the MiTB match somehow.... he wins it, Big Shows wins the triple threat (I know I said Big Show had zero percent change of winning)

then Batista cashes in, spears and slams Show and becomes new world champion. Fans at WM goes totally nuts!!!!

I like it... I like it..
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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.15
    Originally posted by shawnpatrick
    WM always has a surprise. This year, could it be the retun of Batista??????? If he's ready & rumors say he will be, I would get him into the MiTB match somehow.... he wins it, Big Shows wins the triple threat (I know I said Big Show had zero percent change of winning)

    then Batista cashes in, spears and slams Show and becomes new world champion. Fans at WM goes totally nuts!!!!

    I like it... I like it..
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.92
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    ... would they go Orton vs. Hunter in a steel cage to main event Mania?



Given the heat between the characters, they have to at least go No-DQ (because Vince and the McMahons have to get their shots in), and I wouldn't be surprised if they go for the cell.



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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.67
They'll probably do that for the inevitable Backlash/Judgment Day rematches.
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