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TONIGHT: What will be the fall-out from Shane McMahon’s attack on The Legacy last week? Plus, we’ll get a match to determine the final entrant in the Raw Elimination Chamber at No Way Out. Speaking of which, three of the men we DO know that will be challenging for the title in that hellacious structure will be in tag action, as Kofi Kingston pairs with Rey Mysterio against Kane and Mike Knox. In a women’s contest, Candice Michelle faces Beth Phoenix, no doubt with Rosa Mendes in tow.

-WWE Open.

-RAW Open.

-After some shots of the St. Louis crowd, Jerry Lawler and Michael Cole said Chris Jericho would take on John Cena later tonight.

-Shane McMahon was introduced by Lilian Garcia. Shane got in the ring, did his dance, and then we saw clips of the final segment from last week. The live crowd gave him a nice ovation when the video was over. Shane said he was approached by Randy Orton’s legal team after Raw went off the air, and they told Shane that Randy wants to face Shane at No Way Out, and he has accepted. It will be a No-Holds Barred Match. He said he won’t be out there at NWO to beat Orton, he’s out for payback for what Orton did to Vince. Shane said he was going to do everything in his power to ensure that Orton will be unable to compete at WrestleMania, the very show Orton wanted to get an injunction against. Then Orton’s music hit and he came out.

Orton said Shane seems pretty sure of himself, but after last week, he should be. Randy wondered if Shane ever stopped and asked himself how he did it, single-handedly beating up three of the top superstars in WWE. I know I’ve been asking that question. Orton said the answer is simple: he didn’t. Orton said when he saw Shane coming to the ring, he made a decision. “RKO” chants from the fans caused Orton to pause. Orton said he told Ted and Cody not to fight back. Sure, they tried to scuffle with Shane and tried to contain him, but they didn’t fight back. Orton said the entire Raw roster was looking for the opportunity to impress Shane and Steph and that if he and Legacy fought back, the other members of the roster would’ve helped out. Couldn’t they have helped out BFEORE Orton started beating on Shane? Orton said it was a small price to pay for what he really wanted, a match with Shane at No Way Out. Why would he want a match with Shane before Shane even started fighting him? Orton told Shane to call the hospital he put Vince in and make sure they have a bed ready in Vince’s room, because he’ll have some company. Orton slowly walked to the ring and Shane looked ready to fight as well. But Orton stopped short and turned to go back up the ramp. He put the mic down near the top of the ramp and again turned toward Shane and started walking to the ring. “You suck” chants this time. Shane rolled up his sleeves, readying himself. Orton got to the edge of the ring, then was about to climb to the apron, but didn’t. The Legacy came out of nowhere and just as equally out of nowhere Shane got a kendo stick and got a few shots in on Dibiase and Rhodes, who didn’t cause a distraction long enough for Orton to do anything to Shane. Shane holds off Legacy again and Orton’s explanation was non-sensical. Terrible segment.

[Commercial Break]

(1) CM Punk & Mickie James vs. William Regal & Layla- Mixed Tag Match
Apparently, Regal invoked his re-match clause and will face Punk for the I.C. Title next week on Raw. Regal with a shoulder-block, but Punk hit a jumping heel kick. Layla then tagged in and Mickie entered the match as well. But Regal ambushed Punk as he was leaving the ring. Regal distracted Mickie, allowing Layla to get the upper-hand. Cole just threw in the nugget that no one will be allowed at ringside during the Shane vs. Randy match at NWO, as if we’d all heard that earlier. Double-clothesline by the divas and both made tags. Punk with some open-hand strikes then a couple nice kicks. Punk was going to jump on Regal at ringside, but Layla shielded Regal. Then Mickie jumped onto Layla and Regal pulled Punk off the apron by his leg. Mickie tried to help him out and Punk made it through the ropes at an eight count, but Regal hit a running knee to the head as Punk was getting in the ring, and he got the pin.

Winner: Regal & Layla, at 3:18. Fine while it lasted. Layla has some work to do in-ring, but they don’t let her work at it very often (at least on TV).

-They showed highlights from Wrestlemania II. They focused on the celebs and Mr. T vs. Roddy Piper.

[Commercial Break]

-Later tonight, an “Employee Review Appraisal” by JBL will take place.

(2) Cody Rhodes & Ted Dibiase vs. Cryme Tyme
JTG with a flipping shoulder-block on Dibiase, then a face-buster out of the corner for two. Nice leg-roll by Dibiase, then a boot to the face. Cody came in and took JTG down using the leg as well. Both of them ended up knocking heads as JTG came off the ropes. They made tags to their partners and Shad cleaned house on Teddy. Powerslam by Shad, then a “money, money” elbowdrop. Cody broke up the pin and took a shot at JTG. Shad tried to interfere but ended up getting a pounding from Rhodes and Dibiase. Meanwhile, referee John Cone called for the bell and disqualified Legacy.

Winners: Cryme Tyme, via DQ, at 2:47. Good thing WWE doesn’t think wins and losses matter. They should’ve pinned Cryme Tyme and then done the beat-down though.

Referees came down and attended to Shad in the ring.

-The Mickey Rourke-Chris Jericho situation was profiled, with highlights from Access Hollywood, Raw and Larry King.

-Chris Jericho was walking backstage. He’ll be out to address his situation with Rourke next.

[Commercial Break]

-Backstage, far enough away that the camera couldn’t pick up audio, Randy Orton was having an animated conversation with The Legacy.

-Jericho was in the ring and said he wanted to clarify his comments on Rourke on Larry King. He said he respects Rourke’s work in the movie, but doesn’t respect Rourke weaseling out of a match with him. Jericho also said he didn’t respect what the film was about, a guy hanging on past his prime to wrestle, then mentioned Roddy Piper, Jimmy Snuka and Ric Flair, guys in the mold of the Ram. Jericho took shots at Flair, saying he’s doing autograph signings in Gyms now and tell-all interviews to websites, tarnishing his legacy. Jericho said Flair has a sickness and said all these legends need to be put in their place and asked WWE to revoke their status of Hall-of-Famers. He said they’re just leeching off the business at this point. John Cena interrupted.

He said if it weren’t for the legends Jericho wants to ban, he wouldn’t be standing in the ring. Cena said Jericho isn’t fooling anyone with his ten-dollar words and fancy suits: He is, in fact, an idiot. He reminded Jericho about how often Jericho reminds everyone he was the first undisputed champion. Cena said Jericho thinks these guys need to leave the business, yet Jericho has been fired twice and keeps coming back. Cena said Jericho has a bad habit of crossing the line on everything he believes in. Cena said they have a match tonight and Jericho needs to be shut up, so Cena’s going to do that by knocking Chris’ teeth down his throat. What is this, backtrack night? Orton backtracks on last week’s segment and Jericho backtracks on comments about Rourke and turns it into a legends deal.

-Kofi and Rey were walking backstage, heading to the ring for tag action.

[Commercial Break]

(3) Rey Mysterio & Kofi Kingston vs. Kane & Mike Knox
Kofi took out Kane to start and they went to a break less than a minute in with Cole declaring the faces were “rolling.”

[Commercial Break]

Kane was in control of Kofi out of break, but Kofi was able to use his agility to his advantage. He tagged Rey in and the biggest little man went to work on Kane. Seated senton on the outside on The Big Red Machine. Kane hit a chop back in the ring and tagged in Knox. He missed a charge in the corner, but he caught a moonsault attempt by Rey. Rey tagged Kofi while he was in Knox’s arms, and Kofi took advantage, including his double leg-drop. Knox kicked out of a pin attempt. Knox tried a powerbomb out of the corner. Kofi flipped out of it but ran into a big boot for two. Tag to Kane, who used a back-breaker on Kingston. Some double-teaming by the heels as the fans chanted for Kofi. They made some quick tags to neutralize the fan-favorite. He did hit an enziguiri to make a comeback though. Kane cheap-shotted Rey with a kick to the face to keep Kofi in the ring. Crossbody off the second rope by Kofi and both men were down. Kofi went for a tag but Rey was still trying to re-group on the outside. As he made it to the apron, Kane pulled Kofi away and to the center of the ring. A back-elbow found the mark and Rey tagged back in. He was a shed of fire, taking out Kane and Knox. Knox came back to interrupt a pin attempt, and Kofi took him out. Kofi jumped on him at ringside, but it ended up worse for Kingston as Knox directed him into his knee. 619 for Kane in the ring, but Knox caught Rey to stop him. Rey went for a springboard but landed in Kane’s arms. Chokeslam for the win.

Winners: Knox & Kane, at 11:43. Pretty fun match, with Rey and Kofi providing all the athleticism needed.

-Shane and Stephanie were walking backstage, with Steph doing all the talking. All of a sudden, The Legacy came out of nowhere and attacked Shane, with Stephanie getting taken down in the process. They beat up security that tried to intervene as well. Orton said up for his big kick on Shane but stopped short when he saw Steph. He went for a running kick on her, but Shane dove in at the last second and took the kick for his sister. Steph is SO joining Legacy. Agents Mike Rotunda and Dean Malenko came out and got Orton back so they and the referees could tend to Shane and Steph. Orton again made the “what did I just do?” face.

[Commercial Break]

-Michael Cole, in his serious voice, narrated a replay of what just happened.

-Cole and Lawler previewed the No Way Out card as it stands tonight. I don’t remember them talking about Mike Knox making the Chamber match.

-A video package on WrestleMania X aired. This one focused on Hart vs. Hart and Ramon vs. Michaels in the “first-ever televised ladder match.”

-JBL was watching the monitor backstage. He stood stoicly as Lawler said his employee’s performance appraisal would be later tonight.

[Commercial Break]

(4) Candice Michelle vs. Beth Phoenix
Side-headlock by Beth, with a take-down. Candice grabbed a side-headlock of her own, but Beth crunched her with a belly-to-back suplex right on her neck. Beth has been learning from Jericho, yelilng “ask her!” as she had Candice in an overhead back-breaker. Candice tried a roll-up for two and Candice slapped and chopped at Beth. Jumping kick to Beth’s face for two. Candice looked confused before the pin, like Beth wasn’t positioned right and Rosa at ringside was supposed to help Beth kick out. Beth came back with the Glam Slam for three.

Winner: Phoenix, at 2:36. Rosa tossed Candice out of the ring after the match.

-Jericho was warming up backstage for his match with Cena, which is coming up.

-Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler said that Ric Flair will return to Raw live next week on Raw.

[Commercial Break]

-Lawler thanked Saliva for allowing WWE to use one of their songs as the theme to No Way Out.

-JBL came out solo. He said he wanted to perform a performance appraisal for his employee. Is “performance review” trademarked or something? He called HBK out. JBL recapped how we’ve gotten to this point. He said he has fulfilled his end of the proposal. Michaels agreed. JBL said he had no altruistic motive for helping Shawn out; the only reason he did so was to help JBL get to Wrestlemania. JBL asked Shawn if he thinks he fulfilled his end. Shawn said he has done so many things he’s not proud of, like laying down for JBL and putting him on Cena for a pin. Shawn said in this business relationship, the blame goes on JBL, not him. Layfield said “no. The answer was no. You failed just like you failed at your finances and your family.” JBL said he can blame whomever or whatever he wants, but Shawn has failed. JBL asked if Shawn wanted him to release him from his contract, because that’s what he’s thinking about doing. Shawn said what he wants is to kick JBL’s teeth down his throat. Cena already used that phrase earlier. JBL warned him what would happen if Shawn attacked JBL. He told HBK he would cause his family to suffer if he did that. Shawn asked JBL what he wanted from him, so JBL made a proposal. HBK vs. JBL at No Way Out, winner-take-all. JBL said Shawn is in a one-year contract with him and if Shawn wins, he gets the entire year’s pay and will have enough money to keep his family afloat. That must be a lot then.

JBL said if he wins, Shawn is his for life, not only Shawn, but the HBK moniker. He could end up being a dancing monkey working for him, JBL suggested. Is a contract like this, won in a pro wrestling match, able to be held up in court? JBL said he’ll be making money off Shawn’s name for years to come and it will become property of JBL Enterprises. JBL said it’s all-or-nothing and warned Shawn that he has to be perfect at NWO. JBL played the kids card and Shawn got in his face and accepted the offer. JBL warned Shawn that if he puts his hands on him between now and then, the deal is off the table forever. JBL started poking Shawn hard in the chest, trying to goad him into hitting him. He continued to verbally and physically abuse Shawn and slapped him in the face. Shawn looked like he was about to cry and was shaking, but didn’t take the bait. Couldn’t JBL just tell Shawn to lay down for him at No Way Out too? Despite the plot holes (like how much money IS Shawn getting that his family could be at ease forever?), this was a money segment.

[Commercial Break]

-Earlier tonight, Shane and Steph were attacked backstage by The Legacy.

-Kane was pacing backstage and Steph asked him if it was all set. Kane said it was...he’ll be here. Steph then said Kane will be in the Chamber at No Way Out and next week, Orton goes one-on-one with The Undertaker. Those poor guys who would’ve fought in an Elimination Chamber Qualifying Match this week! They must be pissed!

(5) Chris Jericho vs. John Cena
Cena was on fire to start, including his patented face-buster. Jericho ended up out of the ring after the Cena onslaught. Jericho turned the tables and Cena was thrown over the announce table as the show went to break.

[Commercial Break]

Jericho had Cena in a rear chin-lock out of break. Cena got out of it by simply picking Jericho up and trying a Throwback, but Jericho turned it into a DDT for two. Springboard dropkick by Jericho sent Cena from the apron to the arena floor. Cena made it in the ring at nine and Jericho attacked. Belly-to-belly suplex by Cena out of desperation. Jericho missed a running shoulder to the gut, and met the ringpost instead. Cena started hitting his vintage moves, but Jericho avoided the fist-drop and tried a Walls. Cena rolled him up instead for two. Cena went for the STF, and Jericho rolled HIM up for a near-fall. Back-elbow found the mark by Jericho. Springboard moonsault by Jericho for two. Fist-drop, sans the taunt, connected. Apparently, his finisher is “The Attitude Adjuster” and not the “Throwback” according to Lawler. Cena dodged a Codebreaker and after a few reversals were exchanged, Jericho finally hooked in the Walls of Jericho. Cena got near the ropes but Jericho pulled him back toward the middle. Cena rolled through and into the STF. He picked up the submission victory.

Winner: Cena, at 12:31. Good match, but it would’ve been nice to see Jericho pick up the win. Even if by nefarious circumstances.

-They got one last plug in for Flair on Raw next week. They also plugged Undertaker vs. Randy Orton.
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If Cryme Time are feuding with Legacy and do "the money money elbow," shouldn't they be teaming with Shane O Mac?



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Has Jericho ever beaten Cena?



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Isn't the Flair stuff just window-dressing until the Oscars are through, or at least the Oscar voting, so that they can resume the Rourke/Jericho angle?



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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    Has Jericho ever beaten Cena?


Not that I can think of. I can, however, think of three clean jobs over the course of two months.

    Originally posted by TMCG
    Isn't the Flair stuff just window-dressing until the Oscars are through, or at least the Oscar voting, so that they can resume the Rourke/Jericho angle?

It's certainly better than Flair/Jericho, as I sincerely hope that Flair stays retired so as not to diminish the impact of the moment when he retired.

So, the Raw Chamber is Cena, Knox, Kane, Kofi, Rey, and Jericho? Wow, not predictable at all.

I'm hoping the JBL/Shawn at No Way Out frees up Shawn for bigger things (Undertaker, probably) at Wrestlemania, although maybe the JBL/Shawn story hasn't really run it's course yet.

Why does Orton have to do the "shit-what-did-I-just-do" face? I feel it lessens the impact of his actions. Why can't he just be an all-out, wrong-me-if-you-dare dick heel? Or maybe he's just pulling our collective leg and will reveal that this IED thing was just a big lie to escape punishment, Primal Fear style.



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    Why can't he just be an all-out, wrong-me-if-you-dare dick heel?


Then he'd be an all-out, wrong-me-if-you-dare dick face.

note: not read as dickface


Jericho is 1-6 against Cena IIRC. 1-1 in 2002 right when John debuted, 0-2 at SummerSlam '05 and the night after, 0-3 now.

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Was this the first time former Gathering members CM Punk and Mickie James teamed in the WWE?
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I was surprised ex-champ Candice lost clean to Beth, especially with Santino and Rosa at ringside. Now that Danica Patrick is the new GoDaddy eye candy, I wonder if Candice is quickly on her way to joining Mickie James on the jobber bench.

I'm a big Cena fan, but I didn't like how Cena jumped up completely fine and dandy after scoring the pin on Jericho when he was just in the Walls of Jericho for a good bit. At least hold your back and grimace a little bit while celebrating your win John.



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Cena's no selling of everything has always been a big problem. It tends to get worse when he is champion. I really do think Orton/Cena does require McMahon intervention, because Cena has becomes such a bland character and Orton is borderline face/heel that he does need an interesting plot to help with the build.

I am hoping that we don't see Flair/Jericho at Wrestlemania, but an Austin or Rock verses Jericho would be interesting. At this point WWE has not given me a match where I have to buy Mania, but we are only two months away.
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I really liked the Knox/Kane v. Kofi/Rey match. It was a good speed v. power match that was really well done. Some of those moves were awesome, like the plancha on Knox's knee. It was well paced, and I'd like to see a rematch.



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    I am hoping that we don't see Flair/Jericho at Wrestlemania, but an Austin or Rock verses Jericho would be interesting. At this point WWE has not given me a match where I have to buy Mania, but we are only two months away.

Well, I guess you're not buying Wrestlemania, considering:
1) Rock's never wrestling another match again, and
2) Austin isn't coming back to wrestle unless it's a big money main event match.


    Or maybe he's just pulling our collective leg and will reveal that this IED thing was just a big lie to escape punishment, Primal Fear style.

I thought that was pretty much a given? He doesn't need to come out & explicitly say it, but you can read into it that he's just bullshitting everyone.

Kofi/Rey is a really fun team. Miz/Morrison aren't really doing anything resembling an actual program, so why not feud those 2 team? Months of those guys going at it? sign me up rightnow!



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Did anyone catch Regal SCREAMING at ringside fans after sliding outside after the match? THAT was priceless.

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

I was pretty certain they were going to give Jericho the win, too, going into the chamber match to make it a little more interesting. Now,who out of all these guys have a chacne of winning? With Kane and Knox now in, I can see them beating the shit out of everyone else, but what happens when they're all down? They beat up each other, Cena with the Fu and it's done. bah.

Oh, and was I ever rooting for the Steph punt. No more of her, please.
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They are loading up No Way Out. Two chamber matches, a guaranteed Shane highlight match, and the JBL/Shawn match.

I assume Shawn loses only to challenge JBL to a retirement match for WM. But that would make JBL's second such match which we assume he'd lose. Also, if he lost, it would be Shawn's second consecutive WM retirement-match win.

So that can't be right, can it? But they have to do something for WM 25 in Texas.

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Nothing to be confused out. HBK beats JBL at NWO and wins his contractual freedom. UT, who is conveniently on RAW next week, may interact with HBK there or may save it for NWO but either way, I believe UT vs. HBK will be set up for WrestleMania. Wherein HBK will do the J-O-B.

Apparently Undertaker is just a phone call away from performing a special hit on Randy Orton. Funny how Stephanie didn't think enough of Kane to take Orton out himself in exchange for the spot in the Chamber. Nor does Stephanie apparently know how to contact Undertaker. Only Kane has the special, super secret number to the Takerphone.

    Originally posted by JimBob Skeeter


    I was pretty certain they were going to give Jericho the win, too, going into the chamber match to make it a little more interesting. Now,who out of all these guys have a chacne of winning? With Kane and Knox now in, I can see them beating the shit out of everyone else, but what happens when they're all down? They beat up each other, Cena with the Fu and it's done. bah.


Bah indeed. Nothing puts me in a lousy mood quite like Chris Jericho tapping to Cena's STF in two seconds.

To answer your question: No one has a chance to win the Chamber match except John Cena. Kofi getting a title shot is a novelty canceled out by Mike Knox getting a title shot.

Jericho is no longer is sure of who he's feuding with going into WrestleMania. It went from Mickey Rourke to Ric Flair to "Legends". Now, Chris Jericho, like Darkseid, wants to rob the Earth of its Legends.

There's no plan for the Divas whatsoever going into WrestleMania besides keeping Beth strong on RAW and McCool strong on Smackdown. Mickie and Candice were just thrown out there after weeks of pointless backstage segments at the expense of getting Melina further over as the Women's Champion. Mickie and Candice can go back to pointless backstage segments and no one benefits.

Pretty mundane RAW for me. An episode I'd have perferred to watch on AM RAW in a breezier one hour format with the crap cut out.

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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Nothing to be confused out. HBK beats JBL at NWO and wins his contractual freedom. UT, who is conveniently on RAW next week, may interact with HBK there or may save it for NWO but either way, I believe UT vs. HBK will be set up for WrestleMania. Wherein HBK will do the J-O-B.



I see it as a mistake to pull the trigger on Shawn/JBL barely two months from WM. HBK/Taker will be quality, but it doesn't need to happen at WM. Is it a given to the audience that Taker is Texan? Does that give it special oomph?



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    Originally posted by Kevintripod
    Now that Danica Patrick is the new GoDaddy eye candy


Danica's been doing GoDaddy spots since 2006, so I'd doubt that has any impact.



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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker


    I see it as a mistake to pull the trigger on Shawn/JBL barely two months from WM. HBK/Taker will be quality, but it doesn't need to happen at WM. Is it a given to the audience that Taker is Texan? Does that give it special oomph?


Gotta disagree, friend. Taker vs. Shawn is a money match, as opposed to JBL vs. Shawn, which is a match about money. Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels DOES need to happen at WrestleMania. They're the longest tenured main eventers in the company and haven't had a one on one match in a decade. The Undefeated WrestleMania Streak vs. Mr. WrestleMania.

Also, Undertaker was billed as from Houston, Texas when he was the American Bad Ass. Even without directly stating it for the younger/new fans, the older fans will know and will pop accordingly in Houston for the hometown boy.

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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

      Why can't he just be an all-out, wrong-me-if-you-dare dick heel?


    Then he'd be an all-out, wrong-me-if-you-dare dick face.

    note: not read as dickface


It's pronounced dick-fa-say.

It's rare to see them struggle this hard against someone's face turn when the crowd is buying it. I mean yes, they generally drag it out for a while but they generally don't alter the fundamentals of what is making the character garner face heat.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.55
Did anyone else lose USA entirely about 25 minutes into the show?
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.18
    Originally posted by AlbySure
    Was this the first time former Gathering members CM Punk and Mickie James teamed in the WWE?



Yes it was. I thought about the two of them teaming up as soon as Punk joined Raw. I was hoping they would do that crazy Punk/Dinero double team finisher from back in the day.
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