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TONIGHT: Raw has a new champion, as Batista pinned Chris Jericho at Cyber Sunday last night. We get a main event tag of JBL & Jericho against Batista & Shawn Michaels. Also, since this match wasn’t voted in last night, it takes place tonight: Team Pricelss against CM Punk & Kofi Kingston. And for the first time ever, Evan Bourne goes one-on-one with Rey Mysterio. Sounds like a loaded card!

-“In Memory of Conrad Efraim, ‘Special Delivery Jones,’ 1945-2008.”

-WWE Open.

-Clips aired of the main event from last night. They’re giving away all the good parts!

-Raw Open.

-Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler intro’d the show from Tucson, Arizona and Cole did his crowing about Raw being the “longest running blah blah blah.” They plugged the tag main event for tonight.

Then Chris Jericho quickly walked to the ring, without music. Lillian Garcia introduced him as “former World Champion Chris Jericho.” Y2J had the gall to call what happened last night “the biggest screwjob in WWE history.” Jericho complained about just about everything last night. Jericho said if he were Batista, he’d be ashamed to call himself champion. How did you get the title again, Chris? He said he was dying to get his hands on Michaels and Batista tonight. Jericho said he’d use his re-match clause next week. Mike Adamle interrupted and power-walked his way to the ring. Adamle said that in order to prevent outside interference, he has decided to make Jericho’s re-match a steel cage match. Jericho didn’t seem happy and bumped Adamle as he walked by to leave the ring. Randy Orton walked out as Jericho was walking to the back. Orton met Adamle in the ring.

Orton asked if Adamle was satisfied with himself. Apparently, Orton was sent out last night by Adamle. He said he couldn’t defend himself against Steve Austin’s stunner, due to his injury. He said he’d make sure Adamle wouldn’t get away with it. Orton spoke directly into the camera, to Shane and Stephanie. He said he wants them to come to Raw next week to fire Mike Adamle. If that doesn’t happen he said, he’d quit. Orton got in Adamle’s face and trash-talked him, saying he was spineless and a failure, failure as an interviewer, commentator and GM, and probably failed at being a father and husband as well. Adamle stiffed Orton with a slap to the face. Orton began to shake with anger as he stared into Adamle’s eyes. Orton then backed down and left the ring. Adamle had a look of surprise and relief on his face, more relief that that confrontation was over.

-Footage aired of Unforgiven last month, with Dibiase, Manu, Rhodes and Orton attacking CM Punk.

-Punk and Kofi were walking backstage, heading to the ring for their tag title match, which is next.


[Commercial Break]

(1) CM Punk & Kofi Kingston vs. Cody Rhodes & Ted Dibiase- World Tag Team Title Match
Kofi monkey-flipped Rhodes after an attempted hip-toss. Good teamwork by the faces after Punk tagged in. Dibiase came in and was summarily drop-toe held by Punk. We got the third jaw-breaker of the match in less than three minutes, and it was a bad one from Ted Jr. Punk sent Dibiase to the outside, so Rhodes came in. Kingston disposed of him. Punk then jumped over the top rope, landing on Dibiase and Rhodes.

[Commercial Break]

Back live, Russian leg-sweep by Rhodes. GTS was reversed into a roll-up, but Punk flipped out of that and tagged Kingston. Kofi tried to go to the top, but Dibiase grabbed his foot and pulled him off and down to the mat. Rhodes brought him back in the ring for more beating. Dibiase came in and had to be pried off Kingston by referee John Cone, as he was just laying in the right hands. Kofi fought back, but another drop-toe hold put Kingston down and Cody tagged Teddy. Crowd really started to get behind Kofi when Cody had him stuck in an arm-bar. Kofi grabbed a head-scissors on Cody from his back and flipped him over his head. Impressive. Then he tagged Punk, who tagged Rhodes and Dibiase with hand and foot strikes. Manu took a kick to the floor. Kofi took out Rhodes as Punk held the ropes during a finisher attempt by Dibiase. Punk hit the GTS and folks, we’ve got new champs.

Winners: Punk & Kofi, at 12:34. A few missed moves and timing mistakes (and repeated moves), but otherwise, a solid match. Crowd popped HUGE for the pin and the hot tag to Punk.

[Commercial Break]

-Lawler and Cole talked on camera about what has happened in the first 40 minutes of the show.

-Lillian Garcia introduced the guest commentators for the next match. One was Rowdy Roddy Piper, the other was Goldust and then The Honky Tonk Man. Santino Marella came out with Beth Phoenix. got the mic before his match and unleashed the Honk-A-Meter. Santino asked if HTM was scared, then said he’d catch HTM in one week and one year. Santino said that, looking at those three legends, that’s what happens when you do drugs when you’re pregnant. I thought he was going to say their guts all looked like pregnant women. Santino said that his woman is beautiful though. As Santino was complimenting Beth, Her music hit and Charlie Haas came out dressed as Beth. Yikes. I thought that meant Beth was the challenger for the title.

Haas was attacked before the bell by Santino and thrown to ringside. Santino continued his assault, then cold-cocked HTM out of nowhere. Marella ran back into the ring as the three legends surrounded the ring. As Goldust distracted Marella, HTM snuck up behind him and hit him with the guitar. It made a nice dent in the guitar and didn’t break apart as usual. I’m kinda surprised they brought these guys back for another night. I guess why not use them since they’re already in the area from last night.

-Tonight, a Six-Diva Tag Match with Layla, Jillian and Katie Lea taking on Mickie James, Kelly Kelly and Candice Michelle. Also, Evan Bourne faces Rey Mysterio. But up next, Batista, the new World Champion.

[Commercial Break]

-In the ring, Michael Cole introduced the new Champion, Batista. Cole asked Batista what he felt like to be champion again. Batista said that belt wasn’t going anywhere for a long time and that he wants to share the belt with the fans. Cole talked about the re-match last week and asked if he was concerned. Batista said no, and called the steel cage his playground. He also said Jericho had nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.

-The face divas were heading to the ring for their match next!

[Commercial Break]

-WWE 24/7 Classics On Demand: WWE at Shea Stadium.

(2) Kelly Kelly & Candice Michelle & Mickie James vs. Layla & Katie Lea & Jillian Hall
Candice and Jillian started things off. Leapfrog by Candice, and she pulled Jillian down by the hair. Tag to Mickie and they double-teamed Jillian with a leg-lock into a forward roll. Nice move. Hurricanrana on Hall after taking out the other heels. But they came in to break up a pin attempt. Hair toss by Jillian. Tag brought Layla in and they double-clotheslined James. Kick to the face by Mickie, which looked legit, and Layla tagged Katie. Kelly tagged in too and hit Katie with a dropkick and headscissor. Katie tried a roll-up in the corner, but Candice pulled Katie off. Layla ran into a clothesline from Candice. Mickie hit a Thesz Press off the apron onto Jillian as Kelly hit a Fameasser (K2) onto Katie for the win.

Winners: Kelly, Candice and Mickie, at 3:07. Pointless.

-JBL was backstage, speaking into the camera. He said he deserved the title next and cut a promo on Shawn Michaels.

-JBL and Jericho take on Batista and HBK later on.

-Next, Evan Bourne vs. Rey Mysterio.

[Commercial Break]

(3) Rey Mysterio vs. Evan Bourne
They showed an inset interview with Rey, Bourne and Todd Grisham during Rey’s entrance. They showed mutual respect for each other.

Rey and Bourne went at a slow pace early on. There was a “Let’s Go” chant I couldn’t quite pick up on. Rey hit a headscissor off an attempted clothesline by Bourne. Arm-drag sent Rey to the outside. Both men scrambled to get back in the ring, then met face-to-face in the middle. I wish they wouldn’t cut to a commercial during EVERY ten minute match. Especially this one.

[Commercial Break]

Bourne had Mystrio down on the mat in a chin-lock. During the break, Bourne moonsaulted onto Rey on the outside. Bourne got thrown through (well, INTO, then through) the ropes, then Rey hit a seated senton on the outside. No comments from the announcers about who made this match or why it was made? Back-breaker by Bourne for two. Dropkick by Rey into a mid-air Bourne. Rey tried to springboard off the middle rope, but got caught into the ropes and fell on his back in the ring. Rey sold it well and Bourne went right for a pin to mask it. After a springboard seated senton onto Bourne, Rey ran the ropes, but Bourne gave him a nasty enziguiri. Bourne appeared to go to the top for his Shooting Star Press, but Rey met him at the top. Back on the mat, Rey flipped Bourne into the 619 position and hit it. Bourne with a victory roll, but Rey rolled through and got the pin.

Winner: Mysterio, at 11:13. Exciting match, as you’d expect.

After the match, Kane came out and attacked Rey. Kane tried to de-mask Rey, but Bourne attacked. The two faces double-teamed Kane. Mark Henry came out and was jumped on at ringside by Bourne. He caught Bourne though and rolled him into the ring. Rey tried to help, but was blasted, then chokeslammed by Kane. World’s Strongest Slam, and a huge one at that, on Bourne.

[Commercial Break]

-Lawler and Cole plugged AC/DC providing the official theme song of Survivor Series.

-A John Cena video aired, focusing on his childhood.

-John Morrison and The Miz came out. They talked about the shots they took at DX last week. I don’t like their chances at next week’s three-hour Raw. And just like that, they announced that they’d fight DX next week. They plugged tomorrow night’s special edition of the Dirt Sheet on ECW. Lemme guess....they dress up like DX? I still don’t get why this is a talking point coming out of last week...it was just a throw-away joke last week, now they seem to have a problem with them?

-Batista was getting ready backstage for his tag match, which is next.

[Commercial Break]

-Earlier tonight, Randy Orton barked at Mike Adamle ‘til Adamle couldn’t stands no more.

-Chris Jericho came out for the main event tag match. The camera then went backstage, where JBL was beating the bejesus out of HBK in a hallway. JBL then threw Michaels into a room and shut the door. Jericho looked on all smiles.

(4) Chris Jericho & JBL vs. Batista & Shawn Michaels
During Batista’s entrance, Lawler said he was just told in his earpiece that Shawn Michaels will not be able to compete tonight.

Batista powered JBL into a corner. Batista had his knee wrapped. Batista with a big vertical suplex on JBL for two. Jericho tagged in when JBL got Batista down. Jericho hit the ropes and was then hit with a big boot. Jericho got back on offense and tagged in JBL. While JBL distracted the ref, Jericho seemed to help Batista up in the corner like he was going to do something, then Batista elbowed him. Jericho went flying face-first into the announce table thanks to a clothesline from the Animal. The heels re-grouped on the outside as the show went to commercial.

[Commercial Break]

Batista worked out of a chin-lock out of break and clotheslined Batista down. Eventually JBL was able to tag in and he hit some hard right hands onto Batista. Corner dropkick by Jericho. Baseball slide to Batista, who was standing on floor outside the ring. Jericho went to the top once Batista was back in the ring, but got clotheslined out of mid-air. JBL came in and tried to apply a sleeper, but Batista suplexed out of it. Jericho came in and Batista clothelsined the heck out of him. Jericho hit the ropes and walked into a Boss Man Slam. He set Jericho up for the powerbomb, but Jericho countered with the CodeBreaker, but couldn’t get the pin because he was too injured. He finally crawled over and made the attempt, but only got two. JBL threw Batista into the ropes and nailed the champ with a big boot. JBL Missed the Clothesline from Hell, and Batista responded with a spear. Both men were down when Shawn Michaels came out. HBK got on the apron and made the tag but referee Mike Chioda didn’t see it. Batista ended up hitting the spinebuster then Batista Bomb on JBL as Jericho ran up the ramp and away from HBK.

Winners: Batista & HBK, at 12:54.

-They plugged the three-hour Raw next week, with DX against Morrison & The Miz, plus Jericho vs. Batista for the title in a Steel Cage.
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Rey vs. Bourne was OUTSTANDING. The rest of the show, eh. I'm already tired of Gaytista as, well, anything, but especially champion.

Good to see Golddust - I hope he sticks around (and his affliction return).
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.23
    Originally posted by djp

    Good to see Golddust - I hope he sticks around (and his affliction return).

I'm a big Goldust fan too, but he was so out-of-shape here it was sad to see. He could help out if he was in decent shape, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
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Live from Tucson ...

This was a fabulously fun show from top to bottom! Outstanding crowd, which always contributes to the overall ambience. (And I was a bit concerned when I saw how much of the fixed-camera side was tarped off. I'm coming to the conclusion that a more intimate audience often makes for a better show.)

Just one short opening match before TV:
-- Mike Knox d. Jamie Noble:
Short match, where Jamie barely got any offence at all. Still, a nice little warm-up.

Annnnd, crazy-go-nuts TV open.

Jericho out to whine. See, I like him better wanting the title than having it. He passes Orton on the ramp. And Randy's out to whine, although he doesn't seem to have gotten damaged last night. (Why did Randy's promo remind me of a bad rendition of Angle's recent promos on Jeff Jarrett?) Are we going to try for a face turn for Adamle, after the slap to Orton? Can't wait to see how that goes.

World Tag Team Title:
-- CM Punk & Kofi Kingston d. Dibiase & Rhodes:
I'm not generally a huge Punk fan, but he was great here. He & Kingston are very, very good together. Punk was working the crowd every minute, & Kofi is fun to watch. I think this match may have read much better live than it did on TV -- the crowd was pretty much crazed throughout. Very fun, very entertaining, & fun ending!

[[ About here, during a commercial break, Lillian made an announcement about a Batista/Jericho cage match ... tonight. Oh yeah?? ]]

-- OMFG, Charlie Haas in one of Beth's outfits. I hate to say it, but that was hilarious. Shouldn't the match have been Charliebeth vs. Beth, though? That could have been all sorts of entertaining! All very silly, but nice that Piper et al could get another payday.

-- Batista out to show off his new title. (He is almost as hot in clothes as in his ring attire. Woof.)

-- 6 Bimbo tag team activity: Needs more wrestlers.

-- Rey Mysterio d. Evan Bourne:
I know I was whining about the difficulties of Face vs. Face matches, but they did this one exceptionally well. Lots of "much respect" in both directions. And there was good love for both of them from the crowd, which is the only way this works. They worked hard all through your commercial break! I couldn't tell what really was the deal with that spot where Evan gets all tangled up in the ropes -- I think it's mostly deliberate, but it looks like he could really mess himself up that way. Then when Rey got jammed up in the ropes -- that was such an odd accident for him, & I think he did torque up his knee a bit. But they rolled right with it.

This whole thing was really excellent.

I loved the little piece of business when Kane came out, & Rey told Evan to leave. "Are you sure?" It amazes me how they can communicate those little subtle things to the whole crowd.

There was some kind of distraction off in the crowd in the middle of this match when security had to drag out a couple of uncooperative drunks. But that was dispatched summarily, & crowd got right back to the match.

-- Batista & eventually HBK d. Jericho & JBL:
Excellent backstage beatdown of HBK by JBL, including The Clangy Poles. Nasty-looking head shot into the light fixture. (Shawn has been having some difficulty keeping his face out of electrical devices this last year.)

JBL's dropped some fat & gotten a better haircut. Or something. I still don't want to watch him wrestle, but at least it's a bit less icky.

Again, this was a really entertaining match! Totally holding his own against the 2 cheating heels is a nice way to start a title reign. And then just a little help from his partner. HBK naturally was apologizing for getting out there so late, which was another nice little touch.

Annnnd, we close TV. However ... remember we thought Lillian had said something about a cage match? Well here come the ring elves with panels for a cage. Batista goes on up the ramp, & gives us an "I'll be right back." He was entitled to a brief towel-off while they set up the cage. So indeed, for our after-show, we got Batista vs. Jericho in the cage!! Jericho's main strategy was to get up & out ASAP, so Batista had to drag him back from the outside of the top. That was really cool, actually. Not a real long match, but nice little teaser for next week & treat for us live!! Thanks, guys!!

After the close of that, Dave worked the entire inside perimeter of the audience. He was autographing & hand-slapping & posing for pictures for at least 10-15 minutes. Now *that's* what we like in a champion! :-)

This was absolutely the most fun I've had at a show in a long time!! Excellent show! (Happy girl.) :-)
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How to kill the 3 hour RAW next week: Have Vince come out and break out his 'I Will Tell You Why To Vote Speech' from 2000, after which the ratings started to lose steam.
I know he somehow lost the belts to himself in the process, but doesn't Cody Rhodes go into the history books as one of the longest running co-holder of the tag titles since at least Demolition?
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If wikipedia is to be believed, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Tag_Team_Championship_(WWE)_reigns_by_length#By_wrestler , he is 26th on the list of title reigns by a single wrestler. He had 3 reigns totaling 315 days. Edge is 22nd with 11 reigns 360 days and Kane is 18th with 9 reigns totaling 389 days.

Ax and Smash are tied for 3rd 3 reigns of 698 days. Billy Gunn came close but couldn't dethrone Mr. Fuji from the top of the list.



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I somehow forgot/blocked out the Cena/Batista tag title week.
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Courtesty D. Scherer, PW Insider (my favorite subject)

For the second week in a row, Raw did a 2.9 cable rating. The show did hours of 2.83 and 2.95.

The Colts-Titans game on ESPN did an 8.6 cable rating, so it wasn't like Raw went up against a blockbuster game. Trying to say that is purely apologist thinking.


Remember how the sky was falling when DAL/PHL popped a big rating? And how that was the end of the world for WWE? (Proabably not, but I like to keep track of this nonsense)...well, it is, this time and you can't blame the football game!

But

from Yahoo Sports

The 5 1/2 innings the Philadelphia Phillies and Tampa Bay Rays got in during the rain Monday night received an 8.2 rating and 12 share, Fox said Tuesday.

With the Phillies trying to close out their first title since 1983, the game drew a 45.2/60 in Philadelphia. The rating in the Tampa-St. Petersburg market was 28.1/40.


Maybe that's where the viewers went? Probably not, because Yahoo Sports led the story with

Record low for a Game 5 in Series TV ratings

Hmmmmm....go figure. I guess wait until next week, when a three hour RAW rating will be enough for someone at Titan Towers to jump. Again. Whoever commits suicide every week over the ratings sure seems to no-sell dying.

Not sure how this works for the 6 billion $ baseball industry



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On the bright side, a little bird told me that wwe.com gets more visitors than ufc.com, nascar.com, maxim.com, fhm.com, nfl.com, youtube.com, ebay.com, yahoo.com, and google.com COMBINED.

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I find that terribly hard to believe.




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Not to mention the WWE is 5 weeks late in celebrating there 800th episode. It seems like the WWE chickened out on competing with the MLB playoffs and MNF so they delayed the 800th episode thinking we can't count.

The McMahon's better do something drastic next Monday night. lol.



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    Originally posted by CajunMan
    Not to mention the WWE is 5 weeks late in celebrating there 800th episode. It seems like the WWE chickened out on competing with the MLB playoffs and MNF so they delayed the 800th episode thinking we can't count.
USA wanted a three-hour Raw special; WWE just came up with a reason for it after the fact. Note that WWE only ever calls it a celebration of 800 episodes and not the 800th episode.



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    Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
    Courtesty D. Scherer, PW Insider (my favorite subject)

    For the second week in a row, Raw did a 2.9 cable rating. The show did hours of 2.83 and 2.95.

    The Colts-Titans game on ESPN did an 8.6 cable rating, so it wasn't like Raw went up against a blockbuster game. Trying to say that is purely apologist thinking.


    Remember how the sky was falling when DAL/PHL popped a big rating? And how that was the end of the world for WWE? (Proabably not, but I like to keep track of this nonsense)...well, it is, this time and you can't blame the football game!

    But

    from Yahoo Sports

    The 5 1/2 innings the Philadelphia Phillies and Tampa Bay Rays got in during the rain Monday night received an 8.2 rating and 12 share, Fox said Tuesday.

    With the Phillies trying to close out their first title since 1983, the game drew a 45.2/60 in Philadelphia. The rating in the Tampa-St. Petersburg market was 28.1/40.


    Maybe that's where the viewers went? Probably not, because Yahoo Sports led the story with

    Record low for a Game 5 in Series TV ratings

    Hmmmmm....go figure. I guess wait until next week, when a three hour RAW rating will be enough for someone at Titan Towers to jump. Again. Whoever commits suicide every week over the ratings sure seems to no-sell dying.

    Not sure how this works for the 6 billion $ baseball industry



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While those ratings are not very good for major sporting events like MNF and the World Series, you'd have to think a decent percentage, like myself, would have watched RAW instead, so it does have some impact on the ratings for sure.



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