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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
    Originally posted by StampedeFan23
    What a trainwreck that women's match was. On a related topic, did Gail Kim suddenly get, um, bigger?

The reason Gail's been out of action lately is that one of her implants was leaking. I didn't really notice her, but maybe she got a bigger pair...

Random Raw Thoughts:

-Morons trying to sell me ice cream makes my brain bleed.

-Has there ever been a "contract signing" in history where one of the guys does NOT turn the table over on the other guy...then turn the chairs over as he's leaving? Who the hell was the goof playing the "Official WWE Lawyer?"

-I keep thinking Jericho looks skinnier every week...not sure why. Decent match tonight for him.

-Decent show I suppose...not good, not bad.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.52
I want Lita to give birth to a baby with a mask on. That would rule. He could raise his hands and have flames come out of her vagina.

BTW, you think Undertaker would be the best man in this wedding? He IS his brother after all. Undertaker could tell Kane about the time he tried to marry Stephanie. They could share a laugh. Good times had by all!





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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.87
    Originally posted by Greymarch
    Is it just me, or has Lita been wearing a lot of black & red lately?



Well tonight at least. But heeeeey, since when has the WWE writers been light on the foreshadowing?

I do like the dodgeball idea, if just for the sweet smile of insane glee it brought to Jazz's face tonight. Hey I mean the Musical Chairs worked, didn't it? That's it... get hopeful, just like a Red Sox fan.

And my god is Regal awesome. No one is near his ability on the mic, maybe they should be pushing Regal into some movies? Sure he might not be the best looker, but he could do comedies, or maybe a villain role. A second career after he stops wrestling. Or at least being an acting coach for wrestlers.




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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
Well you don't HAVE to spend your 35 dollars on the ppv, nobody is forcing you, if the asbsence of Tajiri/Rhyno REALLy upsets you that much. But they already are "blowing the load" as you put it. I mean you have Benoit/Orton, Eddie/Kurt, Triple H/Eugene, Edge/Jericho/Batista. Any of those could be main events on other ppvs. Then you also have Cena/Booker and Matt/Kane. And you have Dudleys vs. Mysterio/London/Kidman which has MUCH more potential to be good than a La Resistance match. The only match that doesn't look good is JBL/UT but that is necessary because it's the WWE Title match. Sure you could cut the Diva crap, but needs a break from the intense feuds to have a lighter segment, that and people will need a bathroom break. Besides I'd love to see Jazz smash a dodgeball in Carmella's face.

Plus the lack of Haas and RVD are much bigger crimes, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to watch what should be a stacked show.

Matt should definitely turn back into a heel, i don't know about lying down for Kane because he's obviously angry for getting Lita pregnant. I'd rather see him beat the crap of of Kane and either get DQed on purpose or just leave and get counted out after he's done beating Kane.

I'm sure Edge and Jericho are both popular in Toronto but Jericho is definitely the better heel choice. If I remember correctly he even got over as a heel in a segment against HBK in Canada. And if you're from Canada, and you're in Canada and getting a heel reaction against HBK then that's pretty impressive.


I thought both Matt and Kane were excellent tonight, too bad they are wasting this on Lita.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.47
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Well you don't HAVE to spend your 35 dollars on the ppv, nobody is forcing you, if the asbsence of Tajiri/Rhyno REALLy upsets you that much. But they already are "blowing the load" as you put it. I mean you have Benoit/Orton, Eddie/Kurt, Triple H/Eugene, Edge/Jericho/Batista. Any of those could be main events on other ppvs. Then you also have Cena/Booker and Matt/Kane. And you have Dudleys vs. Mysterio/London/Kidman which has MUCH more potential to be good than a La Resistance match. The only match that doesn't look good is JBL/UT but that is necessary because it's the WWE Title match. Sure you could cut the Diva crap, but needs a break from the intense feuds to have a lighter segment, that and people will need a bathroom break. Besides I'd love to see Jazz smash a dodgeball in Carmella's face.

    Plus the lack of Haas and RVD are much bigger crimes, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to watch what should be a stacked show.

    Matt should definitely turn back into a heel, i don't know about lying down for Kane because he's obviously angry for getting Lita pregnant. I'd rather see him beat the crap of of Kane and either get DQed on purpose or just leave and get counted out after he's done beating Kane.

    I'm sure Edge and Jericho are both popular in Toronto but Jericho is definitely the better heel choice. If I remember correctly he even got over as a heel in a segment against HBK in Canada. And if you're from Canada, and you're in Canada and getting a heel reaction against HBK then that's pretty impressive.


    I thought both Matt and Kane were excellent tonight, too bad they are wasting this on Lita.


Bathroom break? Well the JBL/UT and Kane/Matt Hardy matches already fill that role pretty well .




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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
    Originally posted by StampedeFan23
    What a trainwreck that women's match was. On a related topic, did Gail Kim suddenly get, um, bigger?
She certainly was dressed like she'd just gotten off a shift at Hooters.

Lita DID say "It's Kane's baby", but I'm still all for a surprise twist where it turns out to be Eugene's or something...

Does Eugene develop the way he runs to the ring during his entrance by studying Richard Simmons?

If these were really the most talented women in the Diva search, how bad were the others?

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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by Kane Is Ugly
    I want Lita to give birth to a baby with a mask on. That would rule. He could raise his hands and have flames come out of her vagina.

    BTW, you think Undertaker would be the best man in this wedding? He IS his brother after all. Undertaker could tell Kane about the time he tried to marry Stephanie. They could share a laugh. Good times had by all!



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As much as I try to likethe Diva Search... tonight was just pathetic. Anyhows, I might go to WWE.com and vote for Amy Weber... basically since she adorned my desktop often during college.

Edge/Jericho was a great match... here's to hoping they turn it up even more at the PPV.

The Main Event was entertaining... and good lord, Regal is just AWESOME! I've always been a fan.

Poor Gail... she already has a great body... she should've done something with the face.

Anyhows, I don't have too many high expectations for SummerSlam, but I'm going to try my damndest to enjoy it.




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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.33
-DivaFest calls for FFWD, but Randy Orton makes the save and makes me love him with a promo. He's getting better, but his promos occasionally wander. Benoit's rebuttal was strong, too.
-6-Lady Tag gives me another chance to FFWD.
-Eugene/Regal/HHH makes me happy. Regal rules.
-Lita annoys me. How the hell can they do a paternity test months and months before the delivery. Huh? Logic has never been WWE's strong suit. Kane & Matt bring their A-game, so hopefully this leads to good match on Sunday.
-Whores selling icecream makes me FFWD. I was willing to give 'em a chance, but that first whore just triggered it. Tracie gets my vote until she gets voted off.
-Edge/Jericho meandered, but wasn't all that bad. Too much kicky/punchy.
-Brett Albright & Chris Cage didn't seem amazingly out of place. Hopefully if/when they get recalled from OVW they don't mention this. Still, I like the RhynoTajiri/Resistance angle.
-Benoit/Evolution was the usual good stuff from Benoit & Co.

SUMMERSLAM CARD:
-Benoit/Orton looks good, could be great if Orton brings his game up to Benoit's level.
-HHH/Eugene looks good.
-Edge/Jericho/Batista looks energetic, could rock if Jericho brings his A-game.
-Matt/Kane will depend on them. Could rock, could suck.
-Dodgeball will be pissbreak material at best.
-JBL/Taker will be okay, but could drag to pissbreak level.
-Eddie/Angle will be good, maybe great.
-Booker/Cena will be okay, depending on how well Booker can carry Cena.
-Cruiserweights/Dudleyz will be watchable, maybe good.
-And somehow, I expect the World Tag Titles to be defended on Heat.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.59
    Originally posted by Mr Heel II

    Lita DID say "It's Kane's baby", but I'm still all for a surprise twist where it turns out to be Eugene's or something...



Well, she did say something along the lines of "We took your DNA, and it didn't match the child's DNA, so... the baby is Kane's." But she never said that Kane's DNA was tested. Then again, why do I even bother.

The La Resistance / Rhyno-Tajiri match would've happened on Heat anyways, the 'E likes having 8-match PPVs, (I reckon the Diva Dodgeball will end up being really short. Or on Heat.) Back to Rhyno,Tajiri and La Resistance - it adds a lot more heat to the next encounter which is probably a lock for Unforgiven, the tag scene is so desolate its probably a good idea to postpone even a match between the two teams to keep the feud going without becoming stale. Speaking of Unforgiven, I predict Matt Hardy vs. Kane in a "FIRST EVER Loser Gets Divorced From Lita" Match! FIRST EVER! ... Well, lets hope not. (Probably HBK - Kane, or something.)

I really think the Dudleys vs. Crusiers match should have all the belts on the line. That'd be somewhat original, anyways.

On the topic of RAW, it did not make me want to get Summerslam. It was just a boring show. The women's match wasn't good at all, I couldn't get in to Y2J/Edge at first (I liked it after the break, though) and the main event was just there. Decent show, but nothing special. The booking made it look more like a fatal fourway for the Championship was on tap for SS. (Which, actually, might be more enjoyable than just Orton vs. Benoit, especially if it was Elimination Rules... For some reason, I really wanted The Elimination Chamber to be pulled out of the closet... but now I'm digressing.)

I'll give props to HHH. He excels at being evil. "There you are in the ring... and here I am... in your hotel room."

(edited by Peregrine on 10.8.04 0005)
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.53
    Originally posted by Greymarch
    Is it just me, or has Lita been wearing a lot of black & red lately?



I noticed that too. I think this will end up like the Marlena/Pillman/Goldust angle was headed...she turns heel. Even if that's the case, at least that gives Matt Hardy some TV time. Just a few months ago, he was largely ignored and jobbed out since he left Smackdown. Now he is in one of the most featured angles in the promotion. Matt has what it takes to be pushed higher on the card, and hopefully this is the direction there.

I was never really a fan of Matt's until I saw his matches with Benoit the past few years. They have great chemistry, and I think they should have a high profile fued. A fued with Orton would be great too.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
I beleive that Lita will tell Matt she said it was Kane's baby just to make sure he would still marry her and keep his promise. Most likely, it looks like they will go the Matt wins but is confused until Lita gets in the rign and says it is Matt's baby angle. Anyhting to end this nightmare.

As for the Diva search, I was embarrassed for myself. I usually watch RAW alone in the other room while my wife watches whatever. But tonight she was doing some planning for our son's birthday party and sat in the room with me. When the ice cream segment came on, she started to watch and was getting increasingly horrified. She looked at me and said "I can't beleive you watch this crap". I can't beleive I did either. This is the worst long term angle ever. I just wish instead of dodge ball, the would have to wreslte the Divas in a battle royal and the last Diva Wannabe would be declared the winner.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44
Really bad Raw for a pre-PPV show. They sacrificed any heat on the Benoit/Orton match in order to have Eugene's shitty punches floor Flair and Orton repeatedly while Benoit stands around watching; why? Yes, they had to build up Eugene/HHH too, and you can probably make a valid argument that it's the bigger drawing card of the two SummerSlam matches, but that's been built enough. They needed to either have Orton pin Benoit again and make it seem like Benoit's really in trouble this Sunday or have Benoit make Orton tap and have them going in even. All they did instead was cool it off. Dumb.

Lita angle is terrible, I don't care what she does. Edge/Jericho was a snoozer. Best part of the show was dancing guy getting on the hard cam a lot.

I hope Diva Dodgeball ends up with one of them getting their nose broken. I mean, do they not have sense? It's going to end up with the real women making it out to be all personal, and the wannabes laughing the whole time. They have proven to be entirely unable to repress laughter.

I really hope SummerSlam is good, I'm not particularly enjoying either show at this point. Raw's in summer reruns, Smackdown has gotten better with JBL on top but still seems...unfocused? Or something. I expect the SD side to carry the load as far as making the PPV good with Eddie/Angle, the six-man and JBL hasn't let me down yet, so I'm very cautiously optimistic about the match with Taker. Very, very.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    They sacrificed any heat on the Benoit/Orton match in order to have Eugene's shitty punches floor Flair and Orton repeatedly while Benoit stands around watching

Not quite - Benoit never got up from the Pedigree. You could see his prone legs on camera as Eugene was beating up Orton & Flair. But, yeah, that was a crappy way for the show to end. Benoit/Orton should have been facing off as the cameras were going off to put heat on the match, instead of the HHH program taking center stage (not like that's a shocker, though).

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 10.8.04 0842)


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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.70

Was I the only one that wondered if when Kane was signing the contract, he signed it as "Kane Bearer"?



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.55
If anyone should be pissed about spending money on this event its me. I ordered the tickets like a blind fool and this card is not making me feel that good about spending the $200 to go to this thing. Those ordering can still change their minds and head to see the Village Sunday, I don't have that luxury.

If anything, I'm more excited to go to Toronto and see the sites plus chill with my wife and our friends. Honestly, I'd rather go to the Raw Deal Tournament on Saturday at the Ontario place where they have a huge number of Superstar signings as well. Unfortuantly, I can't get up there early enough since its a nine hour drive. Anyway, it should be fun seeing a clean city for once and my money is worth more there than here, but someone told me they had 15% sales tax, is that right and if so does that cut out the more money factor of my U.S. dollar?

So instead of bitching to Vince about spending money on event that may see the worst two champions in WWE history win, I bitch to the internet. God, I love technology.
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.25

    Originally posted by Kane Is Ugly
    I want Lita to give birth to a baby with a mask on. That would rule. He could raise his hands and have flames come out of her vagina.


How DARE you mention the words "birth" and "hands" in a post about a WWE angle. Good God, man, consider the consequences! Have you forgotten what happened LAST time!? :-)

And as for Diva Dodgeball at SummerSlam...please, Jazz, I implore you: FACE SHOTS. STIFF FACE SHOTS.



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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I am a weak person, but I did find one redeeming factor in the Ice Cream segment -- the redhead cracked me up.

You could almost see the wheels turning in her head: "Okay, the licking thing will be done to death by the others. I need some other way to stand out... I know! I'll go poo-slinging crazy! *splep* *splat* *splep*"




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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.80
    Originally posted by Freeway420
    -Lita annoys me. How the hell can they do a paternity test months and months before the delivery. Huh? Logic has never been WWE's strong suit. Kane & Matt bring their A-game, so hopefully this leads to good match on Sunday


I was thinking the same, at first. But I remembered that doctors can perform a procedure called an amniocentesis and withdraw fluid to extract the DNA of each parent. The problem here though, which I found out this morning, is that it has to be done between the 13th and 20th week of pregnancy. Not sure how far along Lita is, but it can be done.

The show was just okay, by me. I do remember at 9:40 or so and saying to myself, "Wow! First hour's almost over and we've only seen one match." The Diva Search stuff just eats up too much time and makes for bad tv. It was so bad, even my dog got up and walked out of the room.

Benoit came off strong in the Main Event, as usual, and I'm hoping that they don't make him put Orton over. The kid's not ready yet. I agree with redsoxnation... He lacks presence and he needs to work on that.

Going into SummerSlam, the storylines are interesting enough, but it just feels like something is missing. I think maybe it's the hype going into it. Last year, it was all about HHH vs. HBK in his return match.

Now... It's old brokendown Undertaker, who will wrestle in this match vs. his former Acolyte and then he'll go home and chill for 3 weeks. I would be psyched about Benoit vs. Orton, but I am not happy about the chances of Orton walking out the Champ, when I don't think the WWE tried to make Benoit look like a dominant force.

I'm just 'eh' about it all. Dodgeball, Cena vs. Booker T in a series, a six man tag with no belts on the line... It's just 'eh' to me. The best thing about SummerSlam right now, to me, are the commercials for it. Eugene & Regal's commercial is the best.

(edited by Ticamo on 10.8.04 0745)


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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.70
    Originally posted by Ticamo
      Originally posted by Freeway420
      -Lita annoys me. How the hell can they do a paternity test months and months before the delivery. Huh? Logic has never been WWE's strong suit. Kane & Matt bring their A-game, so hopefully this leads to good match on Sunday


    I was thinking the same, at first. But I remembered that doctors can perform a procedure called an amniocentesis and withdraw fluid to extract the DNA of each parent. The problem here though, which I found out this morning, is that it has to be done between the 13th and 20th week of pregnancy. Not sure how far along Lita is, but it can be done.

    The show was just okay, by me. I do remember at 9:40 or so and saying to myself, "Wow! First hour's almost over and we've only seen one match." The Diva Search stuff just eats up too much time and makes for bad tv. It was so bad, even my dog got up and walked out of the room.

    Benoit came off strong in the Main Event, as usual, and I'm hoping that they don't make him put Orton over. The kid's not ready yet. I agree with redsoxnation... He lacks presence and he needs to work on that.

    Going into SummerSlam, the storylines are interesting enough, but it just feels like something is missing. I think maybe it's the hype going into it. Last year, it was all about HHH vs. HBK in his return match.

    Now... It's old brokendown Undertaker, who will wrestle in this match vs. his former Acolyte and then he'll go home and chill for 3 weeks. I would be psyched about Benoit vs. Orton, but I am not happy about the chances of Orton walking out the Champ, when I don't think the WWE tried to make Benoit look like a dominant force.

    I'm just 'eh' about it all. Dodgeball, Cena vs. Booker T in a series, a six man tag with no belts on the line... It's just 'eh' to me. The best thing about SummerSlam right now, to me, are the commercials for it. Eugene & Regal's commercial is the best.

    (edited by Ticamo on 10.8.04 0745)


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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
    Originally posted by Mayhem

    Was I the only one that wondered if when Kane was signing the contract, he signed it as "Kane Bearer"?


Actually I was wondering if they had to sign using their wrestling names or their real names. That's be great if Matt started to sign and said "Glen?? Your real name is Glen??"



Also this is off topic a littl bit, but talking about Jericho turning heel made me think of it. Is Hurricane turning heel? After the encounter with Flair last week I thought he would drop the super hero gimmick all together, but after the Rosey promotion and the Hurricane match on Heat, in which he was acting very heelish, it looks like maybe he is turning heel against Rosey instead.

(edited by Quezzy on 10.8.04 0826)


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