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#61 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
Jazz is perfectly fine in her role as Giant Female Monster. The only problem with that is, you can only bust her out so often, and it requires a sympathetic opposing face for the formula to work. Trish was great in that role, and that's why she had like three programs with Jazz. Victoria, at least with her current gimmick, doesn't really fit the bill.
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#62 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.57
    Originally posted by ScottChrist

      Was that an attempt at Edge's Edge-a-cator, or a constipated sharpshooter?


    I'm pretty certain it was an attempt at a (new?) variation of a sharpshooter. It, at the least, did look like it hurt some.

I was kinda thinking it was a busted Texas Cloverleaf.

    Originally posted by ScottChrist
    5. Jazz is a dude.

Ha!

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#63 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.23
The Diva's search thing was hillarious. Vince knows we can't stand this thing so they go out and let them do that.

I still dont understand why people have an issue with kids being at these events. Ok granted it was in poor taste for them to have the diva's say all that, but come on kids say worse stuff in school.

I know I did.





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#64 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.34
    Originally posted by Phantom Lord
    I still dont understand why people have an issue with kids being at these events. Ok granted it was in poor taste for them to have the diva's say all that, but come on kids say worse stuff in school.

    I know I did.


I was thinking more along the lines of little kids, and not middle/high schoolers.



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#65 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00


      Was that an attempt at Edge's Edge-a-cator, or a constipated sharpshooter?
    I'm pretty certain it was an attempt at a (new?) variation of a sharpshooter. It, at the least, did look like it hurt some.


I believe it was an attempt at the lucha version of the Sharpshooter. Her other flashy submissions have lucha roots, so it'd fit.



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#66 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
    Originally posted by Phantom Lord
    The Diva's search thing was hillarious. Vince knows we can't stand this thing so they go out and let them do that.

    I still dont understand why people have an issue with kids being at these events. Ok granted it was in poor taste for them to have the diva's say all that, but come on kids say worse stuff in school.

    I know I did.




Well I don't know where you grew up, but I don't think I ever heard one single person talk like that from the time I was born until college.

This whole idea has been awful and unentertaining from the beginning and they say a few curse words and suddenly it's the greatest thing ever. Please. Not to mention they all went off on Carmella for being such a slut, when she's acted the least like a slut the whole show. All she does is wave to the crowd and stand there while the others are practically tearing off their clothes trying to get as much attention as possible, and it's so obvious they are all jealous of her. Personally I think everyone involved is pathetic and juvenile. If it wasn't for Benoit and Jericho I don't think I could put up with this crap.



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#67 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.21
    Originally posted by Phantom Lord
    The Diva's search thing was hillarious. Vince knows we can't stand this thing so they go out and let them do that.

    I still dont understand why people have an issue with kids being at these events. Ok granted it was in poor taste for them to have the diva's say all that, but come on kids say worse stuff in school.

    I know I did.




I dont ever remember anyone saying "cum guzzling" or "cock sucker" in elementary school. But, I dont feel sorry for parents who bring their kids to a PRO WRESTLING show. You got girls in bra and panty matches, you got wrestling hitting each other with sledgehammers and whatnot. So, a few curse words isnt really that much of a reach. But, still, hearing cock sucking bitch is just one of those surreal moments that you dont forget.

I really dont think Vince cares about the over sensitive, shocked by anything dirty, mother or father. He loves free speech, so this type of stuff is right up Vince's alley. If you dont like it, dont watch it or dont buy a ticket.




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#68 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.40
'' This segment cannot be shown as it contains material of an adult nature ''

I just know I will see that and not the Diva search For a Porn Star segment.

If anyone who taped it can download it and send it on or put it on Kazaa let me know.

Yes I am a mark for trashmouth whores.

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"I dont ever remember anyone saying "cum guzzling" or "cock sucker" in elementary school. But, I dont feel sorry for parents who bring their kids to a PRO WRESTLING show. You got girls in bra and panty matches, you got wrestling hitting each other with sledgehammers and whatnot. So, a few curse words isnt really that much of a reach"


I do agree though with the comments about kids. This is the wrong attitude where its ok to show violence and blood and weddings between 2 people who dont love each other yet if a girl talks like a whore its dirty or bad or shock horror unladylike. Wake up people, I never once heard mention of kids in the audience until this one Diva segment, yet we have had all manner of adult stuff before.

The American attitude towards sex amazes me sometimes.



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#69 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.34
Well, the only other time I've really thought about kids being in the audience was when Ms. Kitty took her top off at Armageddon 1999.



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#70 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.23
Well we weren't saying Cock and Cumguzzler in Elementry school, but I did say Fuck and Shit quite a few times back then.

But still the basis of the contest is who is the hottest and their sole purpose will be to pose in next to nothing to sell DVD's and Magazines.

And knowing the WWE's track record in the last few years anyone who brings a little kid to a WWE show should know what to expect.

And for the record this was the biggest amount of profanity on live television for Wrestling since the Kevin Nash "shoot" on Bret Hart when he called him a piece of shit for fucking over "the boys in the back".

That promo was a good 6 minutes and he wasn't bleeped once and WCW got in a load of trouble from Turner for that.



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#71 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.07
    Originally posted by PerthHeat
    The American attitude towards sex amazes me sometimes.
Well, shoot, there wasn't any "sex" in that segment, though, so your point seems kinda moot.

Then, this is probably a side effect of commenting on something despite not having seen it.



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#72 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.04
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Not to mention they all went off on Carmella for being such a slut, when she's acted the least like a slut the whole show. All she does is wave to the crowd and stand there while the others are practically tearing off their clothes trying to get as much attention as possible, and it's so obvious they are all jealous of her.


Now THAT is a great point ... Why are people so quick to badmouth Carmella, when her only "problem" is not wanting to whore herself out as a brain-dead piece of meat (like the other girls) just to win some money? Isn't there something wrong with that scenario?





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#73 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.07
Just a quick note on the Women's Match, as that was the only thing I saw on Raw. I was allowed to flip through channels during a commercial to Raw (the girlfriend has me trained, I guess), and Gail Kim was in the ring. We watched for a moment, and the girlfriend, who has never watched a second of any match before in her life, commented "She's the best one in the match, and she doesn't have any muscles."

She also pointed out that Victoria was a dude, which I passionately argued against, but her comment on Gail Kim was... interesting.



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#74 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.67
Personally, I like Randy Orton's new theme. It fits with him deciding to stop being HHH's bitch and take the title for himself. But somebody needs to tell these guys that a weapon that they cannot possibly use realisticly is not a good weapon. You don't butt somebody with the end of a sledgehammer, you bring it down on their farking skull! Or drop it on their foot, I suppose. Props to Orton for making me laugh like crazy during that segment, though anybody tormenting Bischoff (except Austin) makes me happy.

Rhyno/Tajiri vs. LR/Coach was crap, plain and simple. If Tajiri was injured, why did they bother with the match in the first place? Maybe Vince was afraid we'd forget who these guys are if we don't see them for a week?

I almost turned off the DivaSearch as soon as Stacy came out (I loathe the skinny little bitch ... no offense to Hocking), but I'm glad I didn't. A gap big enough to drive a truck through, a cock in her ass, AND a "cum-guzzling gutter slut" ... yes, I know it's not exactly intellectual humor, but it was shocking and, IMO, hillarious. I just hope they're planning a swerve and they don't actually have Carmella win, I'm diggin' the redhead (Christy, I think?), and while I'm sure she'll be as useless as Stacy in the ring, at least she seems to be able to handle the stick pretty well (no comment), and I admit, those splits impressed me.

Gail's submission moves make me happy.

Good to see Christian back, and possibly in a reunion with his "brother" Edge. Of course, now that Christian's got short hair they don't even look that similar, but hey, how many blonde Canadians are there?

As someone else mentioned, I can't believe they completely forgot the history between Eugene and HHH. I mean, they wrestled at SummerSlam! The only sorta-reference was from Regal, when he told Eugene to stay backstage because HHH would want to jump him before the match. I liked the finish; personally, I think clean pins are overrated, especially when 90% of the time the heel is making every effort to get "dirty" pins anyway.

And yes, Orton is growing on me, much like a fungus. At first when I heard that Orton was champion, my thoughts echoed his words during his first promo as champ; "This is very disturbing." But I gotta give the guy credit, they gave him the ball and he's doing a good job of running with it. The idea of Evolution jumping to Orton's side is intriguing, but I'm not sure Unforgiven's the right place to do it. While I know this isn't too likely, I'd like Orton to show that he can beat HHH with or without Evolution's help, which would cause Flair and Batista to wonder if they aren't following the wrong guy. Next night on RAW, HHH and Orton have a rematch, Evolution switches sides, and HHH goes away for awhile to return around Rumble time. Wasn't he supposed to leave earlier this year anyway to go on a honeymoon/shoot a movie/commune with his dark lord?



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#75 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.53
    Originally posted by OMEGA
    Well, the only other time I've really thought about kids being in the audience was when Ms. Kitty took her top off at Armageddon 1999.


And how could you forget Mae Young's moment at the 2000 Royal Rumble? I'm sure that'll make kids scared of breasts for the rest of their poor lives.



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#76 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.73
    Originally posted by jwrestle
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        Actually I think that is the most cussing I've heard on RAW since the Bret Hart Tough SH*T/Bull SH*T interview on RAW.


      You're wrong, my friend. The most cussing that was heard on RAW SINCE that Bret Hart swear fest was when Shawn Michaels and HHH did the whole, "We promise not to say the words, fuck, shit, god damn..." speech. I think it was some sort of state of RAW address.

      Sue me if I'm wrong.


    I believe I stand corrected...the DX speech might have been the next par up from Bret and the Divas last night.

    Still I finally let a friend of mine who works EARLY mornings see it and he replayed with "The WWE has gone porn." I almost agree...it was very on the edge. I also agree with the person who said it was entertaining though very very extreme.


Wasn't that "State of RAW" dx speech a pre-taped segment that was aired right before the show went live though? Or am I thinking of something else.

If it was, would it have been seen by the live crowd, or just those of us at home? Because where I live it was editted out on air, so no swearing or anything was ever heard (as opposed to the Diva's stuff, which was heard by thousands).


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#77 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.34
Now that Sky TV have decided to move Raw to Thursday nights at 9 pm, we can expect Edward Scissorhands in the editing room to go to work as expected.

They cut the entire Diva segment out, and the show comes up 10 minutes short once you take out the commercials.

Not happy !

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#78 Posted on
I really liked the women's match, most WWE matches feel like they are put together out of pre-fabricated segments, but this flowed.

For example Gail had Nidia in a hold ,Victoria broke it up, Gail turns around to get her out of the ring and when she turns back Nidia scoots through her legs and Gail has to grab her ankle to stop the tag and then drops an elbow on her.

Just a nice little bit that felt natural, and the match was full of stuff like that. It reminded me of a Gaea match.

The finish sucked though.
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#79 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.25

Something was missing from the Diva bit this week...probably the chants of "JER-RY! JER-RY!" and Steve the bald off-duty Chicago cop keeping everybody separated.



And judging from Edge's and HHH's new shirts, I fear that ICP is back w/ WWE...this time designing new crap for ShopZone.



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#80 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.73
    Originally posted by Socks
    Diva stuff sucks...

    Is it just me or is Eugene beginning to look like Randy Savage???


I think you nailed what I had been trying to put my finger on for a couple months.

Which means, they need to use this, and do the "Macho Man" Eugene gimmick immediately.





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