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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.58
The finish of RAW was kind of brilliant. It reminded me of being 12 years old and watching NWA Worldwide on a shitty UHF station. Just as Barry Windham hits the lariat on Ric Flair, the "TV time remaining" match ran out of time and fades to black! I had to wait a week to find out if Barry Windham was NWA World Champion. That stuff drove me crazy back then but I loved the nostalgia.

King William Regal, General Manager of RAW, most powerful entity in sports entertainment, is awesome. The King of the Ring was designed to elevate a midcarder and as with Edge, Booker, Kurt Angle, Stone Cold, etc. it once again accomplished its primary goal. Love the mad with power King Regal. I also like how King Booker went the comical stereotype route of being a king when the crown drove him insane, but Regal is a more modern looking monarch who eschews the splendid robes, jewel encrusted crown, and accoutrements.

Chris Jericho took it up a notch this week. How glad am I Jericho's back? He was just great. I like the ambiguity of whether or not Shawn Michaels did blow out his knee. I especially like that Jericho's not buying it for a minute and frankly, neither am I. The Fuji General clips showed that Mr. Fuji and Don Muraco were just like Christopher Walken on Saturday Night Live -- they never looked at the person they were talking to and read their lines off a cardboard sign offscreen.

And as "what the fuck is going on?" moments go, singin' Trevor Murdoch squeaks by Regal pulling the plug on the show as the winner.

Good, entertaining RAW.





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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.69
Just how much louder is Kennedy's mic these days? Has it always seemed that loud?

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.59
    Originally posted by Dahak
    If Regal was going to move up to main event status this might pay off. However it seems like they are going to use him to move Kennedy to a face.


Doubt it. I'm seeing Kennedy as a stepping stone in the process of changing Regal from authority figure to badass wrestler. Think of it as what they should have done with JBL when he changed from Bradshaw; they're waiting a PPV cycle or two to build him before throwing him into the main event.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.31
Got around to watching it tonight.

Wow was regal working stiff with Kennedy. Kennedy looked legit pissed when he jumped back in the ring. I don't blame him, I think that blood showed up the hard way.

Is the kennedy face turn the quickest "face turn by virtue of being off the show" in history?

Shawn + Jericho is probably just about the best workrate show they can put on right now. Their WM19 match is one of my favorites of all time, and these two could carry on a program until survivor series and I won't be unhappy about it.





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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
    Originally posted by hansen9j
      Originally posted by Dahak
      If Regal was going to move up to main event status this might pay off. However it seems like they are going to use him to move Kennedy to a face.


    Doubt it. I'm seeing Kennedy as a stepping stone in the process of changing Regal from authority figure to badass wrestler. Think of it as what they should have done with JBL when he changed from Bradshaw; they're waiting a PPV cycle or two to build him before throwing him into the main event.


I would love to see Regal get to main event status. I just don't think that Vince has faith in him to carry it out. I hope I am wrong though.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.95
The ending of RAW reminded me of the WCW Nitro days when they would just cut off the air, but you could still hear the announcers as the screen went dark. I actually waited 20 minutes during Law$Order to see if they would come back, but no luck.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
    Originally posted by CajunMan
    The ending of RAW reminded me of the WCW Nitro days when they would just cut off the air, but you could still hear the announcers as the screen went dark. I actually waited 20 minutes during Law$Order to see if they would come back, but no luck.


If you'd waited until the third commercial break they'd have aired chunks of the dark Hollywood Hogan / Big Show match. I hear they wrestled for an hour and didn't break a sweat.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.76
    Originally posted by Dahak
      Originally posted by hansen9j
        Originally posted by Dahak
        If Regal was going to move up to main event status this might pay off. However it seems like they are going to use him to move Kennedy to a face.


      Doubt it. I'm seeing Kennedy as a stepping stone in the process of changing Regal from authority figure to badass wrestler. Think of it as what they should have done with JBL when he changed from Bradshaw; they're waiting a PPV cycle or two to build him before throwing him into the main event.


    I would love to see Regal get to main event status. I just don't think that Vince has faith in him to carry it out. I hope I am wrong though.


I just don't see Regal making it to the main event at this point in his career. Really, how many guys can you think of that made it to the main event after 15+ years in the business as a solid midcard guy? Maybe DDP? Some guys become mired in the midcard for a decade, and it becomes impossible for me to see them as anything but that. It was the same with Holly when they pushed him against Brock in 2004. Val Venis is a charismatic, solid worker. But who would buy it if they suddenly tried to push him to the top?





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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.21
How about JBL? In 2002 Bradshaw was running around with a handlebar mustache and little black trunks wearing a Hardcore title belt with horns on it. Perpetual midcard guy, right?

Two years later, JBL is WWE Champion and main eventing Smackdown.

It happens.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
Maybe people don't see Regal as a big a star or even as good a worker (although he's definitely excellent) but I don't see how Regal finally getting a main event push would be much different from when Benoit, Eddie, Rey or Jericho finally got the title. Maybe it took Regal even longer but I wouldn't put it past the WWE. There was one point last year where I wouldn't have been surprised if they had given Finlay a title match either. Granted that was on Smackdown where there is no long line of contenders but who knows, Regal could go to Smackdown too.

If they do the Draft again this year I'd love to see Regal, Jericho and Umaga all go to Smackdown. Of course Raw always has to "win" so they'd have to get somebody in exchange. Maybe if say UT went to Raw for one last run and Punk went from ECW to Raw then maybe that'd be a "fair" trade.

And yes, I would buy Val Venis as a contender if they pushed him. He can talk, he can wrestle, who cares if he's been a midcarder for a long time? Some people are putting way too much emphasis on winning and losing when it doesn't really matter that much.



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.76
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    How about JBL? In 2002 Bradshaw was running around with a handlebar mustache and little black trunks wearing a Hardcore title belt with horns on it. Perpetual midcard guy, right?

    Two years later, JBL is WWE Champion and main eventing Smackdown.

    It happens.


I always thought of JBL as taking the tag team guy, transitioned to singles star, similar to Bret and Shawn. But that was still only about a 6-7 year period, and many felt he was pushed to the top WAY too soon. Many fans NEVER bought into him as champ. He can talk, sure, but rarely brought it in the ring. In comparison, Regal was in the WCW midcard in the early 90s, and hasn't really been much higher or lower on the card since then. His style is not for all tastes, either, even though I enjoy his work.

And Quezzy, I would include Jericho in my list of guys who have the stench of midcard on them. It's just a matter of opinion, I suppose. And I would never buy Val at this point. 98-99 he showed a lot of promise, but those days are long gone.




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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
Doesn't Val Venis have to actually win at least 1 match this decade to get away from Horowitz status back towards midcard before anyone considers him for main event status?
Difference between Regal and a Benoit and the main event push is that Regal started out in the upper mid card in WCW, always hanging around the TV Title chase, before settling into the midcard.
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