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|  #21 Posted on 18.3.08 0947.36 | Instant Rating: 5.16 | Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Someone needs to explain to me the appeal of Santino. I've come to accept the fact that people will fall all over themselves to proclaim everything that comes out of his mouth as the funniest thing ever, but I'm just not seeing it. Last night, the most amusing thing he did was double back to grab Lawler's sandwich. Nothing else he did or said was particularly funny, yet he's getting effusive praise. "Let me a-mis-a-pronounce a-words in a fake a-accent!" Really? That's what people are textually fellating him for?
I'm particularly interested in hearing from StaggerLee, who hasn't found Jamie Noble entertaining since the Blind Nidia angle, despite Noble being fairly awesome ever since getting back on TV back during the Hornswoggle "feud", yet proclaims Santino as "gold".
If "Mr. Snoopy Dog" didn't make you smile, I can only weep for you.
And yes, "I've got your delicious Subway sandwich!" was utterly priceless. In the "if Santino needed my kidney, I'd rip it out with my bare hands" sort of way.
Am I the only one who thinks that an Orton/Cena vs. HHH/Michaels feud could be incredibly interesting? Sure you'd have to work through some of their past history, but the way they worked together last night just seemed very natural.
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|  #22 Posted on 18.3.08 1044.03 | Instant Rating: 6.33 | Santino is brilliant. Whether it's his oncamera antics (like his bit with Mr. Snoopy Dog) or even his "Casa" (where he calls Triple H the "Cerebral asinine")...I'm digging him.
The main event of Raw was just brilliant. I think Cena and Orton have great chemistry together (they are good friends backstage, from what I've read online) and the show today was definite proof. The Cody Rhodes in-air-RKO was a great spot, too.
I'm surprized at the lack of Mickie James. Surely there has to be a spot for her on Raw, or at least at Wrestlemania.
No Kennedy...? I'm guessing he's selling the asskicking he received from Finley last week. With the way he was handled last week...I don't know.
Re: Londrick: Originally, London turned on Kendrick. Today, Kendrick turned on London. Hopefully someone gains some form of personality here.
Flair/McMahon was hard to watch. I don't like street fights very much. Flair putting McMahon through the table was a very odd spot. Don't think for a second that this was Flair's last TV match. There will always be One. More. Match. Nobody ever truly retires from wrestling.
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| #23 Posted on 18.3.08 1256.59 | Instant Rating: 3.03 | Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Someone needs to explain to me the appeal of Santino. I've come to accept the fact that people will fall all over themselves to proclaim everything that comes out of his mouth as the funniest thing ever, but I'm just not seeing it. Last night, the most amusing thing he did was double back to grab Lawler's sandwich. Nothing else he did or said was particularly funny, yet he's getting effusive praise. "Let me a-mis-a-pronounce a-words in a fake a-accent!" Really? That's what people are textually fellating him for?
I'm particularly interested in hearing from StaggerLee, who hasn't found Jamie Noble entertaining since the Blind Nidia angle, despite Noble being fairly awesome ever since getting back on TV back during the Hornswoggle "feud", yet proclaims Santino as "gold".
I guess I find fake Italians more funny than real imbreds.
Sorry I can't elaborate more eloquently.
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| #24 Posted on 18.3.08 1311.16 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | I like Santino for the same reasons I found Borat funny.
I've always been amused by people, who haven't mastered the English language yet, mixing their metaphors as they try to be serious. I nearly shot water out of my nose when Santino said to Carlito "You, how do you say, swap spit with men who don't want to be cool."
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| #25 Posted on 18.3.08 1349.06 | Instant Rating: 6.25 | Plus, it has a lot to do with how he carries himself and his body language, not just what he says or how he says it. It really conveys how important and how right he thinks he is all the time. Specifically, when Maria beat Beth in the match that allowed her to pose for Playboy....Santino had to pretend he was happy when he really wasn't and he pulled it off perfectly.
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| #26 Posted on 18.3.08 1405.56 | Instant Rating: 8.52 | | Yup, what makes Santino for me is that he's always so singlemindedly indignant. The accent and the malapropisms are the icing on the cake. | hansen9j
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| #27 Posted on 18.3.08 1409.52 | Instant Rating: 7.41 | It also helps that the debut of Funny Santino was the Dating Show bit. Santino was perfect right from the start, with his big smile saying "I am in intense pain".
His timing is consistently perfect, to the point that he's hilarious regardless of the material, which is difficult to pull off.
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| #28 Posted on 18.3.08 1431.24 | Instant Rating: 4.00 | Originally posted by JustinShapiro
Yup, what makes Santino for me is that he's always so singlemindedly indignant. The accent and the malapropisms are the icing on the cake.
That's all well and good (and I agree with you), but when does it come to a time when you actually DO something with him? Is he always going to be a midcard joke? I understand there's always a place for a comedy character in wrestling, but if he's ever going to be taken seriously or make money for the company, he has to drop this gimmick ala Cena and White Rapper Gimmick.
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| #29 Posted on 18.3.08 1442.34 | Instant Rating: 5.16 | Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
Originally posted by JustinShapiro
Yup, what makes Santino for me is that he's always so singlemindedly indignant. The accent and the malapropisms are the icing on the cake.
That's all well and good (and I agree with you), but when does it come to a time when you actually DO something with him? Is he always going to be a midcard joke? I understand there's always a place for a comedy character in wrestling, but if he's ever going to be taken seriously or make money for the company, he has to drop this gimmick ala Cena and White Rapper Gimmick.
There's a huge backlog of top guys who are all about kicking your ass and being bad and blah blah blah. Right Santino is perfect at being what he is, the guy who gives us something laugh at during the show. To try and push him up the card would only end up destroying the character. Eventually something might happen, but for now the topcard has enough going on as is.
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| #30 Posted on 18.3.08 1503.56 | Instant Rating: 7.72 | You could make an argument that Santino's is one of the most enviable positions in the E. He comes out and steals the show, wrestles for an average of about thirteen seconds on a good night, is an automatic show on RAW, and got to hang out with Maria for about six months. By way of comparison, DH Smith and Cody Rhodes (who JR helpfully reminded us are green as grass,) were obliterated by Cena and Orton, which has been their main contribution in the last two months. Even non-rookies like Shelton Benjamin, Trevor Murdoch, Chuck Palumbo, Elijah Burke, and the aforementioned Jamie Noble are building a career out of treading water.
So while Santino's wrestling ability (that we've seen so far) is on par with those seven, what seems to be the only difference that sets him apart? If you guessed CHARISMA you are right. This company sorely needs some.
Jericho's? Dead.
HHH's? Abrasive and hard to swallow.
Cena's? Actually, not that bad when he tries.
Flair's? Leaving.
Kane, Taker, HBK's? Running on auto-pilot.
Actually, sadly, the man seems to connect the most with the audience on a personal level is a man with a horribly awkward moveset in the ring that sort of will hold him back for a long time if not forever (rhymes with BN Funk.)
The next step is important and will be the true test on whether Santino has "it." Is he the next Christian Cage, or is he the next Shane Helms? Is he the next John Cena or is he the next Maven? Is he the next Chris Jericho or is he the next Scott Taylor? It's waaaaaay too early to tell. | Cerebus
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| #31 Posted on 18.3.08 2219.00 | Instant Rating: 1.48 | Where is it written in stone that Flair is going to lose at Wrestlemania?
I see no harm in Shawn Michaels giving him a win this year.
...it COULD happen.
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| #32 Posted on 18.3.08 2242.37 | Instant Rating: 2.95 | Originally posted by Cerebus
Where is it written in stone that Flair is going to lose at Wrestlemania?
I see no harm in Shawn Michaels giving him a win this year.
...it COULD happen.
I was thinking about that myself. What if Flair wins and decides that, screw you Vince McMahon, I'M DECIDING WHEN I RETIRE!!! And then figuring that beating HBK at the preimer PPV is as good as any way to go out, he does retire at Wrestlemania XXIV without losing. And just to add to the finality of it, he beats the crap out of McMahon one more time in the center of the ring and leaves a winner, on his own terms, to a standing ovation. It would make a great ending to a so far medicore retirement angle.
Besides, it's not like it will hurt HBK's rub in any way. I like HBK, but does he really have any big feuds or titles to go after that he needs the win to help his cause? I think he'll be fine with the defeat. | Hogan's My Dad
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| #33 Posted on 18.3.08 2244.11 | Instant Rating: 1.91 | Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
That's all well and good (and I agree with you), but when does it come to a time when you actually DO something with him? Is he always going to be a midcard joke? I understand there's always a place for a comedy character in wrestling, but if he's ever going to be taken seriously or make money for the company, he has to drop this gimmick ala Cena and White Rapper Gimmick.
Santino doesn't need to be a wrestler to draw money. He's not much of an athlete anyway. He should just be a manager. Comedy can draw money, because you put Santino with people who aren't great talkers. He could be this generation's Bobby Heenan if they use him properly. As an in-ring talent, I think he's probably gone about as far as he's going to go.
And I don't know why anyone thinks Cena dropping the rapping was a good idea. When he was still doing it, he was probably selling less merchandise than now, but some of that surely can be attributed to the size of his push. And every human male over the age of 11 didn't hate the shit out of him then. To me, changing the only thing on your show that was actually getting over at that point, regardless of what it was and more or less for no reason outside of the fact it went over stronger than the office intended, is one of the bonehead moves of all time. Woulda have been like telling Austin not to flip people off, or Taker to get a tan. I'd even go so far as to say it was WCW-like. But I digress.
Edit: Which isn't to say I feel like he should only speak in rhyme, mind you. Just that dropping it altogether was dumb.
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| #34 Posted on 18.3.08 2251.58 | Instant Rating: 5.03 | Hogan's My Dad is right. Cena's rapping wasn't just a gimmick, it was a genuinely clever way to cut a promo and was something that truly set Cena apart as being unique.
“How is it that I am a good actor? What I do is I... pretend to be the person I’m portraying. You’re confused. Case in point: in Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson comes to me and says ‘I would like you to be Gandalf the Wizard,’ and I said ‘You are aware that I am not really a wizard?’ and Peter Jackson said ‘I would like you to use your acting skills to portray a wizard for the duration of the show.’ So I said ‘Okay’ and then I said to myself ‘Mmm.. How do I do that?’ And this is what I did: I imagined that I was a wizard, and then I pretended, and acted, in that way on the stage. How did I know what to say? The words were written down for me in a script. How did I know where to stand? People told me where to stand." -- Sir Ian McKellen, Extras | 2P4E
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|  #35 Posted on 19.3.08 0909.04 | Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
I don't know why anyone thinks Cena dropping the rapping was a good idea...every human male over the age of 11 didn't hate the shit out of him then.
I thought the backlash against him has got far milder since he stopped his annoyingly shit and predictable raps about how all his opponents are gay.
He's a much better fighter and talker than rapper and lyricist. | JimBob Skeeter
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| #36 Posted on 19.3.08 1344.28 | Instant Rating: 6.17 | | Who's to say even if Flair DOES get beat at WM, he will be done? Why can't they throw a mask on him and make it "That's obviously him, but what can Vince do about it?" for a while? Instead of coming out to "2001", they play the theme from ST: TNG. There's plenty of horns in there, too. ;-) | Mr. Boffo
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| #37 Posted on 19.3.08 1515.37 | Instant Rating: 5.12 | Originally posted by JimBob Skeeter
Who's to say even if Flair DOES get beat at WM, he will be done? Why can't they throw a mask on him and make it "That's obviously him, but what can Vince do about it?" for a while? Instead of coming out to "2001", they play the theme from ST: TNG. There's plenty of horns in there, too. ;-)
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| #38 Posted on 19.3.08 2001.31 | Instant Rating: 3.00 | Originally posted by 2P4E
Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
I don't know why anyone thinks Cena dropping the rapping was a good idea...every human male over the age of 11 didn't hate the shit out of him then.
I thought the backlash against him has got far milder since he stopped his annoyingly shit and predictable raps about how all his opponents are gay.
He's a much better fighter and talker than rapper and lyricist.
I sort of liked Cena's rapper gimmic on SD. But when he started with the "Dese Nutz" and calling everyone cocksuckers I started to hate him. Now 2 years later and he is back in the likeable range.
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| #39 Posted on 21.3.08 0239.19 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Originally posted by Alex
Santino was ON POINT all night long. The interview with Jared was acceptable because it set up Santino's wonderful sandwich theft from Jerry "Stupid" Lawler.
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