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The W - Pro Wrestling - RAW #738 7/16/07
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
Yeah, so once again, I had to work, so no in-depth write-up. Anyway, some random thoughts:

I liked the opening segment, though I thought it would lead to a match later on....The four-way got good when Santino was elminated. I'd be excited for Umaga/Hardy if they hadn't squashed Jeff to Umaga a few months earlier....The Maria/Santino stuff continues to intrigue....I liked the inserts of big-name guys giving their take on the title match. Really makes it seem like a big deal....

I was hoping Val would be in for a semi-push after his nice showing against Booker a few weeks back; instead, he gets squashed by Snitsky....Lawler talking about the Bullrope match for newer fans was a nice touch. And the Rhodes/Orton match was solid, especially with the near fall toward the end. Cody looks like a natural in there....The women's match was just okay, but it served its purpose in building Melina/Candice at the Bash....

I'm glad they've added something to the Carlito/Sandman feud. If you asked Sandman 10 years ago where he'd be in 10 years, chances are, it wouldn't be "standing shoulder to shoulder in the ring with Jim Duggan"....Kennedy/Crazy was a bit blah, but the short feud with these two was fine....They needed to be more specific in advertising a "face off" between Cena and Lashley, and I never really like the "debate" idea. The segment was okay, but Cena on the mic (what they give him to say, not his skills) are brutal, and he even got to cut Lashley's promo for him.



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It was really hard to get into tonight's show when they were being SO transparent in their presentation tonight. They did everything but actually SAY "we put smiles on faces!" with all the constant shots of children in the crowd and allusionary commentary about how much people are enjoying the show from company men JR & The King.

Nights like this remind me that I'm too intelligent to be watching this product, but of course that never stops me from watching this product.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.44
    Originally posted by CRZ
    Nights like this remind me that I'm too intelligent to be watching this product, but of course that never stops me from watching this product.


Exactly why I still watch the product for cotton candy shows like such yet, I also agree with you CRZ on occasion, for us we need a bit more than just cotton candy shows to survive. I figure after nearly watching 20 years of concurrent wrestling I'd be tired of it but I keep watching too despite intelligence or lack of...take your flipping pick.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.94
    Originally posted by jwrestle
      Originally posted by CRZ
      Nights like this remind me that I'm too intelligent to be watching this product, but of course that never stops me from watching this product.


    Exactly why I still watch the product for cotton candy shows like such yet, I also agree with you CRZ on occasion, for us we need a bit more than just cotton candy shows to survive. I figure after nearly watching 20 years of concurrent wrestling I'd be tired of it but I keep watching too despite intelligence or lack of...take your flipping pick.


Yeah, but all of us could watch ROH instead of RAW, because thats wrestling you dont have to be ashamed for and booking that doesnt insult your intelligence! But that would be too big of a step for most people, of course! Instead all of you will simply continue to bitch about it, but at the same time keep watching "Sports Entertainment"!

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.66
    Originally posted by Tyler Durden
    Yeah, but all of us could watch ROH instead of RAW, because thats wrestling you dont have to be ashamed for...!


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.80
Maybe if ROH had a weekly television show I'd watch it!
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.74
    Originally posted by CRZ
    Nights like this remind me that I'm too intelligent to be watching this product, but of course that never stops me from watching this product.


Man, I had the same feeling. Although I have it every week. Last night was a special occasion, a reunion of sorts for a few friends and we ended up having a throwback night, watching RAW together, which hasn't happened since 2001. We're all adults in our early 30's and it's hard to watch/care anymore because RAW more than any of the 3 shows, although they all suffer from this affliction, is booked for children. 10 years ago, the feeling was that wrestling, WWF, ECW and even WCW, was growing up with us. Man, do I miss the old days.

At some point in the last couple of years, WWE went the opposite direction and began catering the show to kids. Not even teenagers or college kids but younger kids. Good business? Probably. Kids buy merchandise, they have shorter attention spans for bad booking, and they're happy just to see John Cena and their favorites. But I'm too old and remember too much for the WWE kiddie show. When Cena spoke last night, he was trying so hard to be funny, trying so hard to be like The Rock. The Rock is/was naturally funny. Cena is not. His jokes aren't funny and his delivery isn't funny. But after every pause in his words, a high pitched squeal would erupt from the girls and boys in the audience. Nothing about Cena vs. Lashley appeals to me. And RAW almost completely lacks subtlety, nuance, character development beyond the rudimentary.

There were a couple of highlights: When King Booker came out to Triple H's music, hopes were high that the show would be good because that was pretty funny. Booker getting Lawler to stop using the King name but doing the heelish thing and forcing a little extra out of the babyface was good stuff. That was classic: the heel never is just happy getting what he initially wanted, he always has to push for more. And Sandman's entrance is always fun because it's so weird and wrong that he comes out through the crowd and soaks the surrounding children in beer. Other than that and things like William Regal's character, there isn't much of anything on RAW that an adult can enjoy without feeling like his intelligence is being insulted.





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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.01
I believe they are making Snitsky marinade in baby oil to develop as much acne as possible. It's on top of his head, for God's sake. Also, if the teeth-coloring gimmick is the best you can do to make us flinch in horror from the new big guy, you have a bad product. And you do. Snitsky has one move that he -- admittedly, wisely -- leads to with all his offense. But right now, that offense is made up of elbows to the lower back. Val deserves better than that short a squash. Snitsky, so far, seems to be a muscular Bastion Booger, and that doesn't ring my bell.

The four-way match was fun. I think Ross accidentally correctly called the Blockbuster by Shelton. The finish looked bad (Lawler called it as "not pretty or exciting"), but the match had good energy. Regal is always welcome on my RAW broadcast. I await Marella turning funny-evil like Eddy and winking at the camera as he manipulates Maria. By the way, she looked unbelievably hot last night. Almost classy.

Speaking of Marella, Cody looked like he could have been genuinely plucked from the audience. Randy towered over him and outweighed him by about 30 pounds. Cody sold well, but he moved just liked Dustin. Even walked like him. Where was the elbow? We must have elbow. Waiter? I ordered the elbow.

Booker T did just fine with Jerry to start the show.

Oh, and for every happy child they showed, they unfortunately turned a camera to a child just after they cheered and thus looked distracted or bored. To their defense The Lovely Mrs. Tracker guessed that one kid was busy trying to figure out how to make the same hand gesture as Jeff Hardy. Nice beard, Jeff, by the way. Honest.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.50
Was it 2007 last night or 1987? Because I could've sworn I saw Hacksaw, Dusty, and in the King in prominent roles.

Although, after growing up on Memphis wrestling, I loved the opening segment. Booker was perfect, as was Lawler. I know many here hate him, but I always mark out for a chance to see Lawler be the King I remember, and not the screeching perv he has become on commentary over the years. Now if only i thought Book had a chance in his feud with HHH. Hopefully they skip the racial undertones during their feud this time.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.90
    Originally posted by Alex
    Maybe if ROH had a weekly television show I'd watch it!

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The Rock is/was naturally funny. Cena is not. His jokes aren't funny and his delivery isn't funny.


His delivery can be pretty good. It's usually the only thing that can almost save the godawful "former Teachers writer" barbs he is scripted to toss to much LOL.
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