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TONIGHT: #1 Contender’s match, HBK vs. Randy Orton is on tap. Could interference or shenanigans lead to a 3-way at Backlash? Plus, WWE.com says John Cena will be the guest on “The Cutting Edge.” And Mick Foley’s Make-A-Wish announcement. That could be a feel-good moment, though WWE isn’t known for their tact. The .com is also reporting that Shane McMahon has arrived at the arena and has told reporters that he will have a major impact on the show tonight. What reporters? I like the image of major newspaper reporters standing around outside RAW, waiting for someone important (in storyline terms) to show up.

-WWE Open. “If ya smelllll.....”

-RAW Open.

-We are LIVE from The Arena at Harbor Yard in Bridgeport, CT, and tonight, we have a #1 contender’s match, plus Cena on the Cutting Edge!. But we lead off with Shane-O Mac. What does he have to say? LET’S FIND OUT. He touts the McMahon name and says it’s known throughout the world (I guess the put that in there because few celebs would even mention him in those vignettes). Tonight, it’s about the McMahon Family Dynasty. Uh-oh. Shane calls out Lashley. “Bobby, Bobby” chants, so this crowd won’t crap on him like last week’s I guess. Shane says Lashley took his family’s dignity at WrestleMania, so tonight, Shane’s taking his. McMahon wants to take Lashley’s belt. Tonight, Shane says its Lashley vs. Shane McMahon. Before Lashley can respond, Umaga comes out. Shane meets Umaga at the end of the ramp and tells Estrada and Umaga to take it to the back, and he even slaps Armando. Talk about cutting the balls off of a heel. Back inside the ring, Shane tells Lashley he’s gonna give him the beating of his life. Lashley threatens to give Shane a haircut as well. Shane agrees to the title vs. hair match.

[Break]

-We get the Mick Foley book plug “name dropper” vignette from like a month ago.

(1) Mickie James and Candice Michelle vs. Victoria and Melina
When Melina came out, my roomate says, “Oh no, not this fuckin’ broad.” He’s not a fan. Melina and Candice start things off, but Melina wants Mickie. TFB (that fuckin’ broad, or, Melina) goes right after her, but gets reversed into the turnbuckle. Seated dropkick by Mickie. Mickie tags in Candice who head to the top and comes down with a double-axehandle. Candice rams Melina’s right arm into the buckle then splashes her in the corner. Candice’s locks in her fancy choke-move on Melina in the ropes and Victoria breaks it up. Victoria is in and has Candice in the tree of woe, and Melina comes in to splash her. Suplex by Melina, and she gets a two-count off of it. Melina with a bow-and-arrow type move on Candice, really wrenching on the back and arms. Victoria tags in and misses a splash, allowing Candice to tag in. Mickie is a proverbial house of fire. She gets a hurricanrana on Victoria for two, but Melina comes in and Mickie attacks. Double-team attempt by the heels but Candice comes in out of nowhwere to break it up. DDT by Mickie on Victoria for the three.

WINNERS: Mickie and Candice by pinfall at 4:46.
Pretty inoffensive match, bordering on decent.

-Later, HBK takes on Orton in a #1 contender’s match, plus Edge has John Cena on the Cutting Edge! We then get highlights of Vince getting his head shaved at WM23, just because. Oh, there’s the Shane/Lashley graphic!

[Break]

-Mick is backstage with the honorary GM for the night, a Make-A-Wish kid. The meet the Highlanders and Mick suggests all kinds of zaniness. Maria is up next and she hugs the kid. Mick introduces him to millions of fans (looking at the camera), and he teaches the kid the art of the cheap pop.

(2) Ric Flair and Carlito vs. Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch
Carlito has the mic. Carlito has something to say to Ric. He brings up Flair’s A+ promo on Carlito, who initially was mad, but says it’s not everyday you get a wakeup call from a 16-time champ. He then shows clips of the Four Horsemen DVD. Actually, it appears to be the trailer. Carlito says when they win the match tonight, they’ll get a title match at Backlash. As the heels come to the ring, we take a break.

[Break]

It’s Flair and Cade in there, already in action. Flying clothesline takes down Naitch. Tag in to Murdoch, who lands an elbow. Back to Cade, who lands some stiff punches and forearms. Back suplex by Murdoch, who’s back in. Murdoch has Flair down, but Flair works back and hits chops on Trevor and Cade, but a drop-toe hold takes the old man down. Carlito gets tagged in and a back-body drop on Murdoch is followed by a dropkick on Cade. Running knee lift-clothesline combo on Murdoch, but Cade breaks up the pin. Flair helps him out, but Cade pushes Murdoch out of the way of the jumping back-elbow. Sweet and Sour ends it for Cade and Murdoch, who will go to Backlash and face the Hardyz!

WINNERS: Cade and Murdoch by pinfall at 3:26.
Wow, something tells me these two won’t be going to Backlash. Something will happen in the interim, methinks.

-Carlito is pissed at Flair after the match.

-Coming up, Lashley vs. Shane in a hair vs. title match. Also, the #1 contender’s match

[Break]

-JR and King intro the trailer for “The Condemned.”

-Shane is backstage getting ready for his match when Coach barges in. Shane admonishes him for not knocking. Coach doesn’t know if his match is a good idea. Shane says he’s doing things his way tonight. Shane won’t listen to anymore of Coach’s banter. “Leave the big pictures stuff to me” says McMahon.

-Todd Grisham is standing backstage with Shawn Michaels. Michaels is wearing his outfit from 1995, with crosses added in. He says nice guys don’t finish first. HBK is going to start telling it like it is. Michaels says the match tonight is going to be about who wants it more. Orton steps up to the plate (OK, mic) and says his desire to win is stronger than Shawn will ever understand. His days as top contender are over. HBK says Orton is the 1,000th person to ever tell him that. HBK promises some sweet chin music and the need for Orton to have dental work soon after. The match is next!

[Break]

(3) Randy Orton vs. Shawn Michaels, #1 Contender’s Match
Michaels comes out to “Sexy Boy” FINALLY. I always wanted to read Shawn’s lips to see what he says to God during his entrance, but they always go with a wide camera shot to get the fireworks. Tie-up into a side-headlock by Michaels. He’s got it locked in tight. Orton tries to power out of it, and does, but Michaels works it into a hammerlock. Orton reverses it then so does HBK. At the rate they’re pacing themselves, this looks to go a half hour. Orton pulls the hair to send HBK to the mat. Back up, Orton gets the hammerlock hooked in. Michaels looks like he’s bleeding from the eye. Hip-toss by Orton but Michaels kicks Orton away and takes Orton down with a side-headlock. Orton grabs the hair and sends HBK into the ropes and catches him with a kneelift. Orton stomps on the gut of Micheals. Bodyslam and the pace has slowed even more, if possible. Michaels chop-blocks Orton and starts working the left knee. Orton breaks out of a knee-hold by clubbing away at the chest of Michaels. Dragon-screw leg whip by Michaels after he caught a boot by Orton. Michaels, though, gets sent shoulder-first into the ring post. Edge begins to saunter down to the ring, much to the chagrin of Orton. HBK rolls up Orton for a quick two-count. Orton puts HBK back down. Edge says he’s just watching. We’ll continue after the break.

[Break- During the break, two of my friends and I stay occupied watching an episode of “Salute Your Shorts” I downloaded]

Orton sends Michaels into the ropes and catches the former Rocker with a back-body drop. Elbow catches HBK and sends him onto the apron, right in front of Edge. Orton doesn’t even let HBK get in easy, hitting a DDT with Michaels’ feet on the middle ropes. Orton tries three pin attempts, and each get a two-count. Garvin stomp follows up, but Michaels gets a second-wind and starts chopping away. Sunset-flip, Michaels grabs the tights but still only with a two. Back up, Orton hits a clothesline. Two-count ensues, then a rear-chinlock. HBK fights out, and the two trade punches/chops. HBK is on rubber-leg street, but is able to hit a swinging neckbreaker. Both men are back up after a while, trading punches again. Michaels’ flying forearm hits the ref after Orton ducks. Inverted atomic drop and bodyslam by HBK. He doesn’t seem to care that there’s no ref. He heads to the top and hits a flying elbow. Michaels tunes up the band, but Edge is on the apron to distract him. From behind, Orton clotheslines Michaels over the top rope, and his momentum takes him over too. Edge can’t decide who to wail on. Orton hits an RKO on HBK on the outside. Orton takes a swing at Edge who ducks, and Edge spears Orton. Edge rolls Orton back into the ring and now both competitors are out in the ring. Edge heads to the other side to wake up the ref. Just as he tosses Chad Patton, the offical ref into the ring, Jack Doan comes in to take over. HBK hits the superkick as both men are up. HBK falls on Orton and Doan counts the win, but Patton sees that Michaels’ shoulders were on the ground. The refs each raise a different competitor’s hand. See, the thing is, no part of Orton is on top of Michaels for a real pin. And it looked like Patton was late getting to his spot to see HBK’s shoulders down. Edge thinks he should be the #1 contender because both guys got pinned. No announcement is made, and Edge’s music plays.

WINNER: No Contest at 17:35.

I just want to say that a friend of mine call the double-pin scenario at like 6pm today. Now THAT’S nailing a prediction.

-Coming up, Lashley faces Shane McMahon in a hair vs. ECW match.

[Break]

-JR and King say we still don’t know who won the match.

-The barber chair and all the other works are on the stage in preparation for Shane vs. Lashley.

-Randy Orton invades Shane’s training in his locker room, saying what happened out there was unfair. Shane says he’s got enough to worry about and to take it up with Coach. Orton apologizes and leaves.

-Mick is showing off his honorary GM to Val Venis and Super Crazy, who sign autographs for him. Then they come upon Cryme Tyme, who ask for a match. Mick says he doesn’t perform miracles. Johnny Nitro is next to be greeted and he just walks on by the two. Mick makes a crack about him, then Coach comes up and makes fun of Michael’s clip-on tie. Coach says he’ll allow him to make some menial decisions, but HE’LL make the big ones. Mick says Michael has an announcement. He starts out, “At Backlash....” but Edge interrupts and says he needs to talk to Coach. Those two head off and we are left to wonder what decision Michael Pena has made.

[Break]

(4) The Hardy Boyz vs. The World’s Greatest Tag Team
Wow, next week RAW is from Milan, Italy. Tape delay? THIS should be the match for Backlash. Haas and Matt Hardy start things off. Hardy is whipped off the ropes but Haas puts his head down and Matt catches him. Tag into Jeff for a double-back elbow and Shelton comes in only to get taken down. Jeff goes to the top, but Shelton springboards off the ropes and kicks Jeff in the back of the head. Shelton is dispatches, and we’re left with Jeff and Haas. Right hand sends Jeff down and Haas gets a two-count. Haas makes the tag to Benjamin who starts punching away at Jeff. Referee Marty Elias almost has to physically get Shelton off of Jeff. Snap-mare into a chinlock for Shelton. Jeff fights out, but Shelton goes low to grab the foot, only to get a reverse mule kick for his troubles. Matt is tagged in and the crowd goes apathetic. Bulldog, then side effect for each member of TWGTT. Matt holds onto the ropes and Haas is back-dropped to the outside. Benjamin goes into the turnbuckle to be splashed by Jeff. Jeff hits the Swanton off the top rope and Matt gets the pin.

WINNERS: Hardy Boyz by pinfall at 3:36.
How did Cade and Murdoch leapfrog TWGTT in the tag ranks?

-Edge is walking backstage, set to come out for his interview segment with the Champ!

[Break]

-JR lets us know that Steve Austin will be the Grand Marshall of this week’s NASCAR race, the Samsung 500, in Texas. We also get another look at the Condemned, with cast commentary.

-Edge is out for his Cutting Edge segment. First, he goes into business for himself by ragging on the Orton/HBK match. Coach apparently thinks Edge should be the #1 contender too. Edge wants to introduce Cena but Orton comes down, still selling his injuries from earlier tonight. I bet HBK made sure he was doing that. Orton knocks around the set and Orton says Coach agreed with ORTON, saying Edge should be the last guy to get a title shot. That brings out HBK. I bet Hogan comes out next, saying Coach says HE should be the #1 contender. Michaels said last week he told Cena what he thought of him, and this week, he looks Orton and Edge in the eye to say the Showstopper is the better man. He says at Backlash, it needs to be the rematch of all rematches- Cena vs. HBK. Cena’s music hits, and the scheduled guest comes out. Cena makes a “package” joke that falls flat. He soldiers on though, making fun of each one of their endowments. Cena says last time he and Edge fought, everything was in Edge’s favor and he still didn’t get the job done. Cena says Orton should blame himself for not getting a one-on-one shot for the title. He calls Orton gutless. Cena thinks a re-match from WM would be a good idea. Coach’s music hits and says he’s handling things tonight. He says Orton and Edge are the only ones that sought him out after the match, giving him the respect he deserves. At Backlash, Cena will face Edge and Randy Orton in a 2-on-1 handicap match. Whoever scores the pin is the champ. This brings out Mick Foley, who says the decision is not Coach’s to make. Foley says the honorary GM is Michael Pena, who gets a bigger pop than Lashley! The greatest heel heat would be Coach throwing the kid off the stage, but WWE’s probably too classy for that. Michael announces the new Backlash main event is John Cena vs. Randy Orton vs. Edge vs. Shawn Michaels for the WWE Championship. Man, it would be better if they had a Cena/HBK re-match because Michaels was the only one to seek out Mick and Pena after the match!

-Next, Shane-O Mac vs. Lashley, hair vs. title!

[Break]

(5) Shane McMahon vs. Bobby Lashley, Hair vs. Title Match
Shane does his stupid dance, of course. Shane goes after Lashley before he gets into the ring, then he slips off Lashley’s back and pushes Bobby into the ring post. Baseball slide by Shane before Lashley can get in, then a push into the steps. Inside the ring go both men as the bell finally rings. Shane goes for some kidney punches, then some elbows. That doesn’t go far as Lashley grabs him and throws him over his head. Clothesline in the corner follows, then a back-body drop. T-bone suplex by Lashley. Back up, Shane punches the ref for a DQ. Oooookay. Umaga’s music hits and the man-beast and AAE come out, followed behind by Vince. Lashley goes on offense when Umaga enters the ring but a distraction by Vince puts a stop to that. Splash into the corner by Umaga, then the butt-splash. Umaga plans the thumb to the throat, but Shane waves him off- and hauls off and nails Lashley in the head with a chair shot. Umaga pounds away at a busted-open Lashley. Vince grabs the mic after a random elbowdrop by Shane. He yells at Lashley, saying at Backlash, it’s Bobby Lashley vs. Umaga vs. Shane McMahon vs. Vince McMahon for the ECW Title. “Now beat the hell out of him some more,” Vince said. I love crazy Vince. Two four-way matches at Backlash? Umaga hits the Samoan Spike on Lashley. So Shane is owed a head shaving. Perhaps at Backlash? We leave with the image of Vince hammering away on the forehead of Lashley.

Winner: Lashley by DQ at 1:31

(edited by geemoney on 9.4.07 2307)

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If the kid had pulled a shoot and announced Foley/Eugene/Maria etc. vs. Cena at Backlash, it would have gone down as one of the classic moments in wrestling history.
They should have had Flair/Carlito go over Cade/Murdoch, with the break-up coming at Backlash after they lose the title match. It is sad to see the current Flair right after seeing vintage Flair.
To pull the double pin, don't both refs have to count the fall?
And people actually thought Vince was going to go away after losing his hair. Any coincidence that they started stressing the ECW Title as the ECW World Title once a McMahon had a shot at the title. Should Vince do what even Verne Gagne never did and put a World Title on his son, that would make them the first father/son combination in U.S. Promotion history to have held recognized World Titles.
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I also questioned how Orton could be the winner in the #1 Contenders match. Did Orton forget to pin Micheals or did the writers just not (again) think these things through?
Better than last weeks Raw and it set up Backlash which is important because the overseas trips don't usually move the storyline along too much. The Lashley push is kind of annoying especially on Raw but ECW doesn't really serve much purpose anyway so might as well try to set up another upper lower main eventer.



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I missed the first half hour, but I doubt that the Ladies' Tag Match was going to change my "thumbs down" opinion of this show. Not a good thing when you have a "boring" chant during your main event.

Shane got himself DQ'd, so I presume Bobby Lashley's new mission is going to be seeing to the haircut getting done? Just like last week, all adding Shane and Vince to Umaga/Lashley does, is pretty much give the charisma-challenged champion two easier people to beat. If you're the all-powerful owner and crazy for revenge, why not add the New Breed to your side and make it a 7-on-1 under Extreme Rules?

Had to be one of the Hollywood writers that had Coach announce a Two-on-One Handicap Match for the WWE Championship where whoever among the 3 competitors gets the pinfall walks out the champ... Which in no way should be confused with a Triple Threat Match where whoever among the 3 competitors gets the pinfall walks out the champ. And then there was the clusterfrick booking of the #1 contender's match where the original ref (not Chioda?) declares Orton the winner based on seeing HBK's left shoulder down for as long as it took the second ref to hit the mat for the third time.

Maybe I'm more annoyed than I have a right to be about all that, but whatever happened to WrestleMania being the big stage with the big blowoffs? Undertaker-Batista, Cena-HBK, Lashley-Umaga/McMahon all still going. Bah.

I hope they let the Hardys hold the tag belts for awhile so it seems less of a hotshot angle with Jeff and Matt as transitional tag champs, so I'm fine with Cade & Murdock for challengers. Obviously Haas has been pigeon-holed as Heat-level talent, and Benjamin was moved down from IC-contender status - so the re-formed WGTT appears to just be there as enhancement talent (sorry to see).

And I suppose you can stretch and say Aurora Rose is the fourth generation, but was J.R. as crazy as a pet 'coon when he announced Shane O'Mac as a fourth generation Superstar? Or was he just in the Skittles bowl while on duty again?





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Wow, this show was a big bombardment of disappointment.

Sigh. They're not giving up on Lashley, are they? I know Shane and Vince can bring some entertainment value to the Backlash match, but I definitely don't want to see Lashley and Umaga in the same match again.

After months of jobbing, Cade & Murdoch suddenly become #1 contenders? The sad thing is, I can actually see them getting the belts at Backlash. And while on the topic of tag teams, what's up with Cryme Tyme getting laughed at over the concept of them actually wrestling? Are they in the doghouse or something?

I guess DX is officially dead, which is a shame. I like "Sexy Boy" and all, but the DX theme fires up the crowd like no other entrance music, even 10 years later. And I really wish the double-pin spot would be retired forever. Especially when Orton was CLEARLY down. What a crappy way to set up a four-way match. And I am getting really sick of Cena's Rock-lite promos.

Maybe next week will be better, but I don't like the looks of Backlash so far.




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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.38
    Originally posted by Dahak
    I also questioned how Orton could be the winner in the #1 Contenders match. Did Orton forget to pin Micheals or did the writers just not (again) think these things through?

I'm going to fall back on the requisite "Orton is terrible and anybody who likes him obviously doesn't pay attention to his matches or listen to his promos" explanation.

    Originally posted by TheOldMan
    Maybe I'm more annoyed than I have a right to be about all that, but whatever happened to WrestleMania being the big stage with the big blowoffs? Undertaker-Batista, Cena-HBK, Lashley-Umaga/McMahon all still going. Bah.

Do you have a right? I thought about that myself, and...well, yes and no. No, we don't really have a right, because WWE seems to do this every year. However, I'm still not "used to it" in the sense that it still annoys me.

I caught bits and pieces of RAW, which I think is telling. They had me hooked in the months leading up to Wrestlemania, and the build for the main events was tremendous. Now that Wrestlemania has passed, I found I just...don't care. Especially not about Bobby Lashley. God bless 'im, he tries, but he just doesn't do anything for me (or the live audience during his matches).

On a more positive note, I'd like to take a moment to praise Shelton Benjamin. Unlike certain other guys who will half-ass it if they're not getting exactly what they want, Shelton still works his ass off despite a complete lack of a push. Case in point - he threw a headlock on Jeff Hardy as a rest spot. While doing so, he sold it as if he was actually trying to hurt Jeff Hardy, grimacing and grinding rather than just slapping it on and looking back and forth while catching his breath. The man is a workhorse, and it's a shame he got bumped down the card because he plays video games (or whatever the reason was).

Okay, one more positive note - not enough can be said for what WWE did for that kid tonight. That was amazing.



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That kid reminds me of this kid (imdb.com) from L&O: SVU a couple of years ago.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
Is everyone forgetting that the double-pin is exactly the same finish as the HBK/HHH World title match on Raw that closed out 2003?

What in the hell constitutes a proper way to pin anyways? Sometimes a wrestler can even get pinned while passed out in a figure four.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
    Shelton still works his ass off despite a complete lack of a push. Case in point - he threw a headlock on Jeff Hardy as a rest spot. While doing so, he sold it as if he was actually trying to hurt Jeff Hardy, grimacing and grinding rather than just slapping it on and looking back and forth while catching his breath. The man is a workhorse, and it's a shame he got bumped down the card because he plays video games (or whatever the reason was).


I love Shelty as much as the next guy, but pretty much everyone does the little grind 'n' wrench when slapping on a headlock. And I think he got depushed to his personality bypass. When Charlie Haas is the character of a team, you know you've got problems.

Pretty bad show. The absurdly-overbooked McMahon PPV matches got old last year, and that was when they were wrestling opponents who were actually good. Boy howdy, Lashley was over in that opening segment though. And one big plus: Cade and Murdoch, bitches! I hope they win the belts at Backlash.



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I actually liked the show ... up until the end when I was reminded that it's still all about the McMahons.
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It would be nice to see Lashley defend the ECW title against some, say, ECW wrestlers.

Has there ever been a one-on-one Cena vs Orton bout? I remember a few years back when I thought they were building to a feud between the two (I think they bumped into each other at Summerslam or something).
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.92
    Originally posted by JST
    Is everyone forgetting that the double-pin is exactly the same finish as the HBK/HHH World title match on Raw that closed out 2003?

    What in the hell constitutes a proper way to pin anyways? Sometimes a wrestler can even get pinned while passed out in a figure four.


I am going to use wrestling logic here so if it's stupid well that's how it is.
With the figure 4 hold and the other guy gets pinned it's because Flair (or whoever) is causing the other guy so much pain that he can't get up. A proper double pin (which they should never do) is when both are "covering" each other. Even if it's the really lame both wrestlers drape a hand over each other pin that I think the HHH/HBK pin was.
I can put up with a lot of stupidity in wrestling like the mat is more painful than the oppenents head. But the "rules" need to be followed. Otherwise it's just some dudes in their underwear pretending to fight.



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Why would the other ref even raise Orton's hand? He did nothing except get his ass knocked out and just laid there to be pinned. If anything, he should have raised both guy's hands.

So we will have 2 Four Way matches at Backlash? I don't even follow the "logic" of why Vince and Shane are in a 4 way match against each other. How does that make sense? And even if it does, who wants to see it?

Please get Lashley out of the main event (of a show he isn't even on, no less)! I am all for new guys getting pushed, but he does not deserve it. He is still WAY to green. He looks like He-Man, talks like Mickey Mouse, and has less personality than Shelton Benjamin.

This show had been pretty decent for the last month or so, but last night was terrible. The Orton-HBK match was good, but ruined by a retarded finish.




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Will Carlito Vs Flair lead to a Horsemen revival?

I mean, they've brought back EVERYTHING else.

Just a thought.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
    Originally posted by TheOldMan
    And I suppose you can stretch and say Aurora Rose is the fourth generation, but was J.R. as crazy as a pet 'coon when he announced Shane O'Mac as a fourth generation Superstar? Or was he just in the Skittles bowl while on duty again?

Shane is the fourth generation of McMahon's involved in wrestling.

Jess McMahon, father of Vince Sr. (en.wikipedia.org), was a promoter back in the 30's.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
    Originally posted by griff
    Has there ever been a one-on-one Cena vs Orton bout? I remember a few years back when I thought they were building to a feud between the two (I think they bumped into each other at Summerslam or something).


Yes, on the Eddie Guerrero Raw Tribute. At the end, Cena laid his belt next to an Eddie t-shirt.



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