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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
I never knew they were this huge on the Dallas Cowboys in Toronto. Unless there's some hidden tattoo-meaning I'm not grasping.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
Of the 25 Rumble participants, I'd say only 3 have a legit shot at winning (Orton, Edge, HBK) and 1 REAL longshot (Johnny Nitro). The rest really have no story leading up to the Rumble to make it conceivable they'd win, making this Rumble seem very boring.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.21
    Originally posted by Kobe_Rapist
    Of the 25 Rumble participants, I'd say only 3 have a legit shot at winning (Orton, Edge, HBK) and 1 REAL longshot (Johnny Nitro). The rest really have no story leading up to the Rumble to make it conceivable they'd win, making this Rumble seem very boring.


I think you could add 'Taker to that list.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.72
    Originally posted by Kobe_Rapist
    Of the 25 Rumble participants, I'd say only 3 have a legit shot at winning and 1 REAL longshot.
Which is the same (or better) than any Rumble since they started giving a Wrestlemania title shot to the winner.



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I liked the vests Orton and Edge were wearing, as well as Edge's (new?) tattoo.

(edited by Oliver on 16.1.07 1703)


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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by JST
    I never knew they were this huge on the Dallas Cowboys in Toronto. Unless there's some hidden tattoo-meaning I'm not grasping.

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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.18
    Originally posted by KJames199
    From WWE.com:

    The following participants (listed in alphabetical last name order) have already been announced:

    12. Kane
    13. King Booker
    14. Chris Masters

So according to WWE.com King Booker's last name is...King? Does this mean that King Booker's name is now Booker King?



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
Yeah, last night indicated to me that it seems they will pull the trigger on Cena and Michaels. Totally the right decision. You can have a neat little theme of UnderTaker and Michaels being the old guard going after last title runs. They can't run Edge and Cena again, and Orton is basically Edge's Sir William right now, so that won't fly.


Decent show, Jeff Hardy is slowly becoming the best thing in wrestling. Seriously.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.75
    Originally posted by Mayhem
      Originally posted by Kobe_Rapist
      Of the 25 Rumble participants, I'd say only 3 have a legit shot at winning (Orton, Edge, HBK) and 1 REAL longshot (Johnny Nitro). The rest really have no story leading up to the Rumble to make it conceivable they'd win, making this Rumble seem very boring.


    I think you could add 'Taker to that list.


After what happened on SmackDown with Kennedy screwing Taker out of the title shot at the Rumble, I'd put him on that list too. That occurance could have kickstarted his story for a title shot at Mania.

(edited by hayden on 16.1.07 2144)
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Yeah, last night indicated to me that it seems they will pull the trigger on Cena and Michaels. Totally the right decision. You can have a neat little theme of UnderTaker and Michaels being the old guard going after last title runs.


I had similar thoughts. They were rebuilding Michaels back to showstopping stature after he played sidekick for over half a year to set him up as Cena's opponents.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.29
My little list of Who's Who in the Rumble.

GUYS WHO I COULD VERY EASILY SEE WIN IT

Carlito He's both my pick to win the Rumble and the guy I want to see win it-- great charisma and talent to boot, what's not to like?

Edge He's been pushed very strongly throughout 2006-07, but I'm not sure they'd do another Edge/Cena rematch as the WrestleMania main event.

Jeff Hardy He's had two strong runs as I-C Champion since returning, and has been a highlight of RAW.

Shawn Michaels It's been a long time since he's had a title shot, and it would be something interesting for him to do since HHH is on the shelf indefinitely.

Randy Orton Just to spite me.

The Undertaker It's pretty much the one accomplishment he hasn't achieved, and Batista/Taker has been thrown around for some time as a WM main event possibility.

DARK HORSE CANDIDATES

Shelton Benjamin Shelton's one of the most amazing talents in WWE, but his lack of charisma and a consistent push have been his biggest Achilles heels. (I could also go into a whole racism-in-sports-entertainment diatribe, but I'll postpone.)

Chris Benoit No doubt many would tout him as a favorite, and it's never a good idea to bet against Benoit. But the fact that he won the Rumble back in '04 makes me doubt that he'll be pushed to win it again in '07. The glass ceiling may have been shattered but guys like Chris Benoit don't get pushed to win multiple Rumbles. (I certainly wouldn't be the one to complain if he did, though!)

Ric Flair It'd be a nice story-- Flair gets one last shot at glory, and capitalizes by winning his 17th world heavyweight title on the Grandest Stage of Them All. I put him as a dark horse only because this is the same guy who's been jobbing to freakin' Kenny Dykstra recently.

Finlay WWE could do a lot worse, and I like Finlay. Not sure I could see him main-eventing a WrestleMania, at least not as the challenger, anyway.

Kane He always puts together an impressive Rumble showing, and if he and The Undertaker were in the ring together for an extended period of time, the Brothers of Destruction would certainly combine for many eliminations. I put him down here 'cuz it's been so long since Kane's main-evented a pay-per-view I don't really see him main-eventing WrestleMania.

King Booker He had a solid run as World Heavyweight Champion and made the road back to the World Title harder for Batista than most expected. But I put him down here 'cuz I think his big push might be over.

Chris Masters I put him down here only because I can't believe WWE could be stupid enough to let HIM win it. But I've been proven wrong before.

Johnny Nitro He's certainly had a good singles push, but unlike Jeff Hardy for some reason, I still think of Nitro as being one-half of a successful tag-team more than as a successful singles star.

MVP He's gotten plenty of TV time, but I don't think he's over enough to get a WM main event slot. By a long shot.

Rob Van Dam RVD's been WWE and ECW Champion before, of course, and has been pushed as The Guy in ECW, but I'm not sure WWE will ever give him quite the same push he had before simply because of what happened last time.

CM Punk Punk's the only ECW guy other than RVD who I could legitimately see winning the Royal Rumble. Only thing is, I can't see an ECW Title match being the main-event of WrestleMania, ever, I don't see them pulling Punk out of ECW anytime soon, and I don't think they'd have time for him to build heat with either the WWE or World Heavyweight Champion and make it believable.

Kenny Dykstra He was the one guy in the Spirit Squad WWE wanted you to care about, and he's gotten about a zillion wins over Ric Flair in the past month or two. Plus he's only 20 years old so they might try for the youngest-champion-ever thing like they do every few years.

SNOWBALL'S CHANCE IN HELL

Chavo Guerrero Stranger things have happened, and he's certainly been feuding with Eddie's buddies a lot, but surely they don't make Eddie Guerrero posthumously (figuratively) main event WrestleMania two years in a row, right? Especially since Chavo's a heel.

Matt Hardy I like Matt, but I'm not convinced WWE will ever make him a main-event superstar like I think he's capable of.

Hardcore Holly They may yet be stupid enough to have Randy Orton win the Rumble, but surely the thought of Bob Holly main-eventing WrestleMania scares even Vinnie Mac, right? Right?

The Miz Might be good playing the "Ernest 'The Cat' Miller" role for 2007. Too bad the hair's real and he doesn't have a midget sidekick.

Sabu I haven't been watching ECW as of late (probably haven't been missing anything, anyway), but after Sabu failed to win the ECW Title from The Big Show for the zillionth time I figure his flirtation with the main event was nothing more than WWE teasing his fans.

The Sandman Down here for pretty much the same reason as Sabu. The ECW Originals in general haven't been pushed as anything more than cannon fodder for RAW and SmackDown rejects, and Sandman hasn't been an exception.

Viscera Oh, please.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.03
I gotta give Vince credit. He didn't have to acknowledge his utter retardation last week. I don't recall Hunter and Shawn apologizing for that fat stripper face-raping someone whenever that happened. And that was ten hundred million billion times worse than the Trump/Rosie crap.

Also, Jimmy Kimmel apparently likes Rosie even less than Vince.

Khali made John Cena, WWE Champion, his bitch last week and that's it? And the guy who is finally gonna put a stop to Khali is, in all likelihood, Hogan.

As important as it may be to keep Shawn strong, there had to have been a way of keeping Orton and Edge looking remotely competent. They didn't put Hunter out, he hurt himself kicking their asses. They've shown copious replays to burn this reality into our minds. His injury didn't stop him from still winning the match, knocking the shit out of them and posing with his buddy. The progression here just doesn't work for me. The least they could have done was some hospital skit in which Edge is blamed for "aggravating" the injury. As it stands there's nothing for Shawn to even feel vengeful about. He's angry at Edge and Orton because Triple H had a freak accident which wasn't even enough to cause a loss? On one leg he still bested them, and now Shawn does the same when it's two on one? The only time these guys can do anything right is when they're committing felony assault on old men.

And if he's going to the main event of Wrestlemania, please don't have him going on about how only one man can be his partner and he's going to go be by his side. It sounds gay. Don't they both have wives? There's bein' there for a buddy and then there's just bein' creepy. The sledgehammer and mouthing "this is for you"...Ugh. He didn't die, for Christ's sake. He'll be back in a few months.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    There's bein' there for a buddy and then there's just bein' creepy. The sledgehammer and mouthing "this is for you"...Ugh. He didn't die, for Christ's sake. He'll be back in a few months.


yeah, but they need to build up the "I was there for you Hunter, and now you turn on me just because you want a shot at the belt I have right now?" angle.





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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    My little list of Who's Who in the Rumble.

    GUYS WHO I COULD VERY EASILY SEE WIN IT

    Carlito He's both my pick to win the Rumble and the guy I want to see win it-- great charisma and talent to boot, what's not to like?

You should move Carlito down to the "Snowball's Chance" grouping. He's got no shot to win. He's done nothing for months, the company is down on him, and he's gotten really lazy in the ring. Chris Masters (who, by the way, seems to be improving in his ring work) outoutworked him in their match 2 weeks ago. And while you're at it, put Shelton down in the same category. I like the guy, but he's got no shot of winning.

    Originally posted by flariforthegold13
    Jeff Hardy is slowly becoming the best thing in wrestling. Seriously.

No. Not even the best thing in the WWE.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
      My little list of Who's Who in the Rumble.

      GUYS WHO I COULD VERY EASILY SEE WIN IT

      Carlito He's both my pick to win the Rumble and the guy I want to see win it-- great charisma and talent to boot, what's not to like?

    You should move Carlito down to the "Snowball's Chance" grouping. He's got no shot to win. He's done nothing for months, the company is down on him, and he's gotten really lazy in the ring. Chris Masters (who, by the way, seems to be improving in his ring work) outoutworked him in their match 2 weeks ago. And while you're at it, put Shelton down in the same category. I like the guy, but he's got no shot of winning.

      Originally posted by flariforthegold13
      Jeff Hardy is slowly becoming the best thing in wrestling. Seriously.

    No. Not even the best thing in the WWE.



I'll explain. Jeff's work has become consistent. When a lot of guys that were hot for a while are so inconsistent (like Carlito, Shelton etc) the fact that Jeff goes out every week and puts on decent to good matches is a really good sign. He's also staying over, irrespective of wins and losses and doing it without having to mumble his way on the mic. Monday he went out with Maria and put on a fun match. Plus, his work is a billion times less spotty than his first go round. It's like he returned to the and decided to become a real wrestler. Considering no one expected anything out of his signing and probably a lot of us thought he'd be meth'd out back on the indy scene by now, his comeback has been nothing short of amazing.

So I was being a little hyperbolic, but Jeff has become one of the consistent performers on a show that's marred by inconsistency. Him and Nitro are the only mid-card acts on the show actually busting their ass each week. Jeff Hardy's going to be WWE champion one day, y'know and it's going to be sooner than we think.
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    They didn't put Hunter out, he hurt himself kicking their asses. They've shown copious replays to burn this reality into our minds. His injury didn't stop him from still winning the match, knocking the shit out of them and posing with his buddy. The least they could have done was some hospital skit in which Edge is blamed for "aggravating" the injury.


Definitely agree with all of this. The same thing happened with the first injury even though there was a famous scene with Jericho putting him in the WoJ on a table and HUNTER'S RETURN FEUD WAS AGAINST JERICHO. I think Chris may have alluded to it one week before Mania 18 but that was it.

    Originally posted by fftg
    It's like he returned to the and decided to become a real wrestler. ... Jeff has become one of the consistent performers on a show that's marred by inconsistency. Jeff and Nitro are the only mid-card acts on the show actually busting their ass each week.


Absolutely. They're the anti-Carlito and Shelton and the even better version of Matt and Helms. Not that I would blame Carlito and Shelton for getting disinterested with running on a treadmill, but I appreciate what Jeff and Nitro are contributing each week.

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