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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
The fake lightning strikes and the flames were too much. Shouldn't Vince just fire the pyrotechnics guy in the back?

Oh...and Vince tells Benjamin that he likes when people are knelt in front of him? When did Vince start with the homosexual innuendos?



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.16
Because nobody has out-and-out said this yet, I wanted to mention that the Benjamin-Haas match was really kind of not good. It was disjointed, awkward and slow, and most of the spots, while not blown, weren't executed very well. Pretty disturbing for a couple of guys who presumably know each other very well. Also, you can really see why Haas got fired. He lacks any charisma. Get this man a ridiculous gimmick, stat! Maybe he can do a real-estate agent tag team with Chavo.

On unrelated notes, I love Spirit Squad and Matt Striker. (And Striker's a Queens boy -- what's not to like? Geez, he's small, though -- that's going to be a problem.) And as a longtime booster of babyface Carlito, I was happy to see he was flawless and over in his face debut.

Can anyone think of a Raw in recent memory with a higher concentration of stupid shit? Kane's voices! Divine retribution! Giant boxes in the ring!

Things I fast-forwarded: Vince's opening promo, the main event (i.e. everything I wasn't supposed to fast forward)

(edited by Destrucity on 18.4.06 0738)

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.94
    Originally posted by TwisterF5
    And was it just me, or did Mickey's left nipple make a very welcome appearance? (At the very end when she was kneeling near the ropes).
I believe there was some aureola present - I didn't catch it but my wife alertly pointed it out to me. (Reason #4214153 my wife is great) This was accompanied by Lawler's codeworded "she's poured her heart out!" line.





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#24 Posted on
    Originally posted by britishiles
    and Vince tells Benjamin that he likes when people are knelt in front of him? When did Vince start with the homosexual innuendos?

Well, he has been greatly enjoying taking off his pants and having men literally kiss his ass for a few years now.


Not really much left to add. Most of my observations from the show have already been covered by others in this thread.

It was nice to see JR make it unharmed through one of his out of arena interviews. Those usually end up being painful for him. He's been shoved down by Vader, put in the mandible claw by Mick Foley, and most memorably set on fire by Kane.

Edge really needs to stop using the spear as a finisher. It doesn't make as much sense as a big guy like Goldberg, who had a pro football background and didn't even use it as a finisher. Edge is a skinny guy spearing guys 30+ pounds heavier than him. It would be like a smaller guy less than 6 feet tall using a chokeslam as a finisher.

A positive step forward with the Kane storyline. At least we weren't somehow able to hear the voices in Kane's head this week.

(edited by The 5th Horseman on 18.4.06 1226)
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.79
    Originally posted by The 5th Horseman
    It would be like a smaller guy less than 6 feet tall using a chokeslam as a finisher.


Hey, I LOVED the Hurri-slam.

I think the Edge Spear works because he's lean. His shoulder mass is a smaller, sharper object walloping under the ribcage. The Rhyno/Goldberg gore delivered a bigger impact, both both spears/gores work on the same principle: knock out the wind and drive the victim's head against the mat. That second impact offers the snap that we all love when the victim sells it right.

My complaint about Edge finishers is that he's got THREE of them (the Spear, the Edgecator leglock, and the Impaler DDT), but the latter two have been phased out as match-enders.

(edited by Matt Tracker on 18.4.06 0947)


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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
What I watched of RAW was fun. Add me to the list of Trish lovers - I can't think of a long angle she failed in. This particular angle is rivalling her best work, which is saying something. Kudos to Mickie for "hanging out" with her, and add my love to Jack's line of the night.

Does this mean Striker is a heel? I like Carlito and am hoping they don't water down his shtick now that he is full fledged face.

I'm not sure Umaga has improved or not, but I have enjoyed his two appearances against guys who are terrific at getting other guys over. Flair and HBK are two of the best ever, and their comparable small size makes Umaga all the more impressive. In any event, I loved his superkicking Shawn over the ropes, and enjoyed the headbuts into the tree of woe.

I love the hints/references to DX, but I dunno how they will pay it off. If they pull the trigger too fast, they risk the retro T-shirt sales becoming uncool.

AWArulz, I enjoyed your religious historical perspective on God's prior career. Was God wearing a turban in another fed, wrestling under the name "ALLAH"? It might be worth the price of admission to the PPV just to start a chant "WE WANT GOD!" This is likely what Vince wants, but I never would have imagined a wrestling crowd chanting that.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.94
    Originally posted by too-old-now
    Does this mean Striker is a heel?
Hasn't he pretty much always been a heel since he started cutting those promos?



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.42
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by too-old-now
      Does this mean Striker is a heel?
    Hasn't he pretty much always been a heel since he started cutting those promos?


Yeah. Which is why I find the whole thing so confusing ... last week I coulda swore Carlito was the heel and Masters was the face (I know, I know) because Carlito was the one who backstabbed, or back-kneed, Masters. But now Carlito's coming out to insult a heel and fall prey to a sneak attack in best face fashion? Pick a side and stick with it.

Oh, and Masters in gold velour trunks was gayer than anything Goldust has done in fifteen years. He needs to go make a gladiator movie.

I absolutely did not recognize Haas until they mentioned his name -- the beard, the darker hair, and the, um, "good diet" threw me. Here's hoping he sticks around a little longer this time.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
There's every chance that the DX stuff is just to give the retro shirt sales a little goose. I can't see how a DX reunion fits into any of their known M.O.s at this stage, aside from maybe pulling Shawn back into that lighter schedule he's been talking about.

Liked the show, for the most part. The God pyro is such a goofy idea, and the current sociopolitical climate is so not the right one for such lowbrow silliness. Outside of that everything worked, pretty much. I've been waiting for them to promote Striker to Monday nights since he started doing his schtick on Heat about three months ago. He's erudite on the mic, naturally prickish and surprisingly decent in the ring. Frankly I'm surprised they didn't pull the trigger sooner.

EDIT: Carlito's clearly the face, and has been since day one.

(edited by oldschoolhero on 18.4.06 1003)


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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.78
Show was bad when it was bad, but when it was good it was pretty awesome. Liked seeing Haas again, liked the Spirit Squad (they rule!), Umaga brought the wicked headbutts, Trish and Mickie continue to bring the awesome, and I really dug Edge outsmarting HHH in the main event. That is supposed to be his gimmick after all, that he uses his smarts to get ahead. The bad stuff was what it was. The crowd just shit all over Vince's opening segment, and good for them. HHH/Cena/Edge leading off the last two shows was great, there was no reason for them to change up the recipe this week. The one thing I was really disappointed in was the Chavo interview. It added absolutely nothing to the angle. We know exactly as much about his motivations now as we did when he quit. Would have been nice to get some development there.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
"I think both you bitches are crazy!" absolutely made the Mickie-Trish storyline for me. I have to admit, I was a bit leery even after Wrestlemania but Trish switching up got me curious and Jack's line there just sealed it for me. Followed by Mickie's psychotic rant/kick to him afterwards, heh. Good stuff.

HAAS IS BACK!! I'm definitely glad to see him, although I fervently hope that Shelton loses to RVD at Backlash and then starts a feud with Haas. I don't trust the writer monkeys to do that, but really a Haas-Benjamin feud could be a good old-school "tag partner revenge" feud. And the matches will be good, I know their RAW outing was a bit...odd, but the energy and fire and crispness was there in the beginning. Their feud could turn out really well if the WWE pulls the trigger on it.

See, that's what they should've had Kane do LAST week. No goofy-ass voices in the head that only he (and the television audience) can hear. But going randomly crazy, muttering something about May 19th? Works, and fits Kane better.

I don't know if it was RVD or the Spirit Squad, but that was the best that five-man toss spot has looked. And holding up RVD for Kenny's legdrop was sweet, so while short, that part of the show was definitely a highlight.

Could've realllly done without the cheesy Fireworks of Holy Smiting, though.

(edited by BoromirMark on 18.4.06 1322)


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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
    Originally posted by Shem the Penman

    Yeah. Which is why I find the whole thing so confusing ... last week I coulda swore Carlito was the heel and Masters was the face (I know, I know) because Carlito was the one who backstabbed, or back-kneed, Masters. But now Carlito's coming out to insult a heel and fall prey to a sneak attack in best face fashion? Pick a side and stick with it.

They may have tried making Carlito a heel at first, but theres a problem with that. Theres not an audience in the world who would boo the funny, smaller guy with the goofy hair when hes taking on the muscleheaded idiot who nobody really likes.

Heck, even King was calling Masters a musclehead last night.

Watching Shelton last night, I once again desperately wished that the WWE would mandate training with an acting coach. Hes fantastic in the ring, but hes completely out of his element when he has to actually act. Even Maria is more convincing as a character than he is. A promos no good if youre pausing every beat to remember your next line.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.86
Trish's facial and body language reaction to Jack's "I think both you bitches are crazy!" is what made me laugh. Trish isn't used to anyone calling her a crazy bitch. See, Trish always liked Mickie's hero worship of her. In Trish's world, as a face or a heel (especially as a heel), she always sees herself as awesome. Mickie loudly proclaiming it every week saved Trish from doing it and she always silently agreed. It's when Mickie turned into a psychotic crotch-grabbing lesbian that Trish got turned off (although the audience concurrently got turned on.) But it always made sense to me why Trish never could bring herself to cut Mickie loose throughout the angle because deep down she loved the adoration. Trish's self-love has been an intregal part of her character since day one. That and she's smarter and more cunning than the other RAW Divas. That's why she makes a great heel.

I think some of the audience confusion as to who to cheer for stems from the fact that Trish is now primed for revenge and regaining her title, but it's too soon for her to have it again. Mickie has only had the belt for a couple of weeks; it's too soon for Trish to get it back. Trish might get booed again if she takes the belt, undoing all the momentum she's getting by finally fighting back with the same mindgames Mickie has played on her.

As awesome as this angle has become, I'd say the best thing for both of them long-term is for Mickie to keep the belt and then splinter off against other opponents for a while. (Who? Well, there are some girls in OVW waiting to be called up and a draft lottery in June that could get bring Jillian or Melina over to RAW.) There is no great urgency for Trish to begin her seventh title reign. But if Trish ties Harley Race's number of reigns, I sure won't complain.



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.23
    Originally posted by Shem the Penman
    Yeah. Which is why I find the whole thing so confusing ... last week I coulda swore Carlito was the heel and Masters was the face (I know, I know) because Carlito was the one who backstabbed, or back-kneed, Masters. But now Carlito's coming out to insult a heel and fall prey to a sneak attack in best face fashion? Pick a side and stick with it.


I think Styles was saying on Carlito's entrance to the ring that Carlito double-crossed Masters in the Elimination Chamber and at Royal Rumble and that Masters retaliated by losing the WM match on purpose. Not saying that's any worse than what Carlito did, but they did seem to justify that as the reason that Carlito is the face and Masters the heel.

Oh, that and the majority of fans cheering more for Carlito than for Masters.

BTW, I may be the only one, but I've been half-expecting Estrada to break out singing "Mambo No. 5" since his debut.
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    BTW, I may be the only one, but I've been half-expecting Estrada to break out singing "Mambo No. 5" since his debut.


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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by TwisterF5
      And was it just me, or did Mickey's left nipple make a very welcome appearance? (At the very end when she was kneeling near the ropes).
    I believe there was some aureola present - I didn't catch it but my wife alertly pointed it out to me. (Reason #4214153 my wife is great) This was accompanied by Lawler's code worded "she's poured her heart out!" line.




I demand to know why it that we've had 30 some odd posts in here and not ONE DAMN screencap of this?

What is WRONG with you people?

That said, this was, for me at least, the most nauseating RAW I've seen in a while.

I 'LOVE' Wrestlecrap, but the 'God' stuff is just so bad that it's gone beyond 'good bad' and past 'bad bad' and has moved into 'bad bad BAD bad bad'. I see this as being 'Katie Vick' bad, but I LOVED that, so NOW I see what you people saw was bad about that.
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.58
    Originally posted by TwisterF5
      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      Why does Edge's win mean he's not getting the title? There's still a week of TV to go, and all three of the ME participants have now scored a pin in this handicap match series. I'm curious as to your logic.


    Past history almost always indicates that the one who gets the win closest to the PPV usually lays down at the show.




    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Not true. He who is left standing the week before the show, be it in the context of a match or some other kind of confrontation, is historically the guy with the least chance of winning on the following Sunday. I don't think Edge will win either, but it's not because they booked him to go over tonight.


That's exactly what I said. You're saying Not True, but yet you agree?

And I repeat....the one who gets the win closest to the PPV (on Raw/Smackdown) usually lays down (loses) at the show (the PPV).



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by TwisterF5
      Originally posted by TwisterF5
        Originally posted by oldschoolhero
        Why does Edge's win mean he's not getting the title? There's still a week of TV to go, and all three of the ME participants have now scored a pin in this handicap match series. I'm curious as to your logic.


      Past history almost always indicates that the one who gets the win closest to the PPV usually lays down at the show.




      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      Not true. He who is left standing the week before the show, be it in the context of a match or some other kind of confrontation, is historically the guy with the least chance of winning on the following Sunday. I don't think Edge will win either, but it's not because they booked him to go over tonight.


    That's exactly what I said. You're saying Not True, but yet you agree?

    And I repeat....the one who gets the win closest to the PPV (on Raw/Smackdown) usually lays down (loses) at the show (the PPV).


I have italicized the part of oldschoolhero's post that is the source of the disagreement. You do realize there is one more Raw before Backlash, yes?



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#39 Posted on
    Originally posted by TwisterF5
      Originally posted by TwisterF5
        Originally posted by oldschoolhero
        Why does Edge's win mean he's not getting the title? There's still a week of TV to go, and all three of the ME participants have now scored a pin in this handicap match series. I'm curious as to your logic.


      Past history almost always indicates that the one who gets the win closest to the PPV usually lays down at the show.




      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      Not true. He who is left standing the week before the show, be it in the context of a match or some other kind of confrontation, is historically the guy with the least chance of winning on the following Sunday. I don't think Edge will win either, but it's not because they booked him to go over tonight.


    That's exactly what I said. You're saying Not True, but yet you agree?

    And I repeat....the one who gets the win closest to the PPV (on Raw/Smackdown) usually lays down (loses) at the show (the PPV).

No, oldschoolhero said something different from you while disagreeing. He specifically stated it didn't have to be during an actual match, while you are talking strictly about winning or losing a match.

An example of what oldschoolhero is saying is the happenings before Wrestlemania when Raw ended with the John Cena vs. Vince McMahon match. Cena won the match, but both Vince McMahon and HHH walked out smiling while John Cena was left laying in the ring and Shawn Michaels was left slumped over outside the ring and handcuffed to the ropes. Vince and HHH didn't win a match, but they were left standing. They also both lost at Wrestlemania against the 2 men that were left laying in the ring at the end of Raw.
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