I thought Kane was counted out, not DQ'ed, as the ref had the count going while he was fighting the Spirit Squad and continued it through Chair-Tossing. I thought the 'Voices in Kane's Head Segment' was actually GoldDust making noises to mess with Kane. GoldDust was originally a thespian, thus Kane would be going into his territory. Does anyone know what sort of contingency plan Vince has set up in case God can't work main event style? Will he have to start defrosting The Yeti the Monday before just in case God isn't worthy enough to be in a ring with McMahon's and HBK? When they asked who decided The Spirit Squad could have all there members recognized as tag champs, one of the three announcers could have said Michael Hayes made the decision. Considering Coach is anti-Carlito and Lawler is pro-Carlito, I'm guessing Carlito is the face.
...and I'll make it three predictions for Cena & Edge v. HHH next week. As far as the triple threat at Backlash, I gotta hope they either give it to Edge or leave it with Cena. HHH really has nothing to gain by having the belt. He could be gone for six months and come back as an instant #1 contender. He no longer has to have the rub you get from fighting in a title match. IMHO, He could be better used in a separate feud. I don't mean he's last month's flavor and he's only good for jobbing to future stars. Just having a wrestler do well against him, maybe losing a couple of matches, and finally going over once would be ok. A little give & take with guys who need the HHH rub. Edge & Cena still kinda need gold-rub. Of course, maybe they're trying to give Edge & Cena a HHH rub also. I just don't think he would REALLY benefit from getting the title again. Not yet.
I did like that Trish turned Mickie's own game on her. Ok, and the skirt too.
I'm really starting to like Carlito. But as much as I'm liking Carlito, that's how much I don't like Masters. I'll admit he took the chair shot well, but the whole effect was spoiled for me when he leaned his head into it before he even saw the chair coming. Ugh.
Finally, I kinda liked the "voices in Kane's head" segment. They want Kane to go back to being a psychotic heel. I was just wishing for the same thing, ironically enough. But how can we know what the voices are saying unless we hear them or Kane repeats what they are saying, which I truly hate. We should know that Big Show has prior knowledge of Kane's psychotic episodes. It seemed apparent to me that this wasn't the first time that Show found Kane cradling his head. It adds to the pathos of the upcoming match. I can forgive mixing reality with a little "vignette" dressing.
Finally finally, the only thing I don't like about the Spirit Squad using Freebird rules is that Vince is not allowing the WWE to acknowledge that this has been done before. It's a crack in my suspension of reality when Joey starts jabbering about how this is unprecedented. I don't know what the reason, (maybe they aren't allowed to talk about the Freebirds for copyright reasons?!) I just don't care for it. Relating current wrestling to wrestling history is part of good storytelling on the part of the announcers.
Overall, a watchable show.
"A study in the Washington Post says that women have better verbal skills than men. I just want to say to the authors of that study: Duh." --Conan O'Brien
They're setting up well for Backlash, and continued to do so tonight, pretty good show.
OMG They gave RVD more mic time!!! And was that Steve Romero?? Anyways, it almost looks like they've gotten Shelton comfortable without having to use Shelton's mama, and I think they should stick with it. And the fact RVD actually showed some intelligence by refusing to put his MITB shot up for grabs is great. Especially after we had to go through Rey putting his shot up and blowing it (which is moot now, with him bein champ and all)
Hate the fact they are gonna let any 2 of the Spirit Squad defend the titles, because the 2 last night were terrible. Kenny only standing around instead of showing off his hops was a bad use, IMO.
Carlito & Masters was what it was, not as good as last week, but was definitely saved by that awesome looking chair shot.
I thought to myself during Mickie James' match that I really miss her wearing her skirts, only to be rewarded with Trish in her Mick-getup. They mimic each other to a T, and hopefully this is an angle that can keep on for a very very long time. I almost hit the floor when Mickie mouthed "that's not cool" when Trish was goin back up the ramp.
That's about all worth noting from me, but Backlash is setting up to be a pretty swell looking card:
Cena v. HHH v. Edge for the WWE Championship
Rob Van Dam v. Shelton Benjamin for the Intercontinental Title
Shane-O & Vince-O v. HBK and "God"
Kane v. Big Show
Carlito v. Chris Masters
Mickie James v. Trish Stratus for the Women's Championship
...and I wouldn't be surprised to see them throw Flair v. Jamal Version 2 on there as well.
It was a fun show, very sports entertainment heavy but at least everything delivered.
The opening segment once again was interesting. Cena, Edge and H have chemistry together. Them standing there shooting on each other gold. Anyone notice that when they keep saying Edge had a 2 week reign, he'd say 'it was 3 weeks.' Funny stuff. Their dynamic and the flunctuating crowd reaction is probably the most interesting happening in wrestling in a long, long time.
An unusual amount of squash matches on the show. I guess it's not good to give away the farm every week, but it was strange to see. Van Dam and Benjamin are HORRIBLE at talking. That segment was atrocious.
The Kane stuff was ridiculous. I don't know why they invariably insist on doing those type of segments. I guess we have to just go with the fact that some characters like Kane, UT, Boogeyman etc. live in the fantasy world where the rules of reality don't apply to them. I like Kane basically and he's better as a heel so whatever.
The Vince in Church segment may have been the greatest thing ever. From the HHH impression, to Shane reading the prayer ("Okay, this is getting weird,") to McMahon urging God to strike him down, it was S.E. at its best. Shane is doing a brilliant job at saying little in these segments but showing just how bemused and slightly disturbed he is by the whole thing. If you missed the segment, find a way to see it.
I like Samoans.
Can't fault for Masters for leaning into that chair shot, he took it like a man (though, they really shouldn't have guys taking unprotected chair shots to the head.)
I noticed Maria was billed as from Chicago. I guess she's the newest Second City Saint. Mickie is 18 different kinds of amazing and has some of the best facial expressions right now. Trickie James was aces as well. What a great angle. Keep it going for years.
Main Event was fine. Cena is showing a lot of fire, clearly enjoying this run he's on. It's been said, but I've never seen anyone get this kind of reaction, the boos are SO heated and the cheers are SO big that it's like a powder keg being set off when he comes out. You can't take the belt off him, keep this going for as long as you can. And when you think about One Night Stand, I think we all assumed that H v. RVD would be the most heated match. Actually, you have to think now what type of crowd heat a Cena v. RVD match would get. That might be the smarter match.
I thought the Vince is church thing was a little distatsteful but then again it is what I come to expect from Vince and Co. But Shane has been pure gold in the segments as of late. He has the facial expressions down.
When I saw Kane stumbling down the hall while we heard the "voices" and I was thinking how stupid it was. I guess they can't decide if they want a face Kane or a heel Kane.
Umaga or whatever he is called is doing a good job. I popped for The Oriental Spike thumb move. Originally used by Killer Khan and Terry "Bamm Bamm" Gordy.
I missed the first half hour of the show because I was watching last week's "Prison Break" and "24".
www.oklafan.com Big Show: Why is he getting the Intercontinental Title shot and not me? RVD: Ahhh...maybe 'cause you're a tool. Big Show: Look. I am 7'2". I am 500 pounds. I'm a giant. RVD: Oh ok. You're a giant tool.
We had some friends over for the weekly wings 'n' rasslin. They show up exactly as the oven announces the dinner’s done baking. Travis, Kathy, and Tonia the German Exchange Student have little to no wrestling exposure. Kathy watched some when she was in fifth grade while hanging out with boy pals, Travis knows some names, and poor Tonia thought we were going to watch amateur wrestling. I make the offer again to pause the show at any time to fill them in on characters, motives, and angles. We sit down at nine to watch the show.
9:00-9:20 A long talking segment. All conversation turns to Lita’s fake chest. Does she use double-sided tape for that shirt? How can she wrestle with those? And Kathy, the expectant mother, says that’s how her chest feels these days. As follows the audience pattern, Travis and I aren’t warming up to Cena while the women are getting hot and bothered over him. Kathy loves his army haircut. Tonia is dazzled by his arms. Tonia, however, is mortified by Triple H. She loves the Lord of the Rings films, and Triple H looks exactly like Bormoir. She physically turns away from the TV and says he’s gonna ruin the films for her. Triple H offers the Evil Handshake Gesture, and Travis and I quickly explain how this always, always, always works: The good-guy hesitates to shake hands, knowing the bad guy will in some way embarrass or assault him. But, being the good guy, he wants to display sportsmanship. He’ll extend his hand and either a) watch the evil hand quickly retract and fix the bad guy’s hair; b) get decked with a clothesline; or c) have the bad guy spit in his face. Instead, Cena, quickly walks to Triple H, slaps him, and walks off. That wins us over. We hate stupid good guys, and Cena has proven that he too watches wrestling and knows the traps.
Kathy is dismayed by all the talking. She wonders if there are any smaller guys, and I explain they’re on the Friday show. We also all compare notes on Ric Flair, known to even the most causal of fans.
9:25ish Rob Van Dam vs. Rob Conway. The match does nothing for the new folks, and Kathy, Tonia, and the Lovely Mrs. Tracker instead talk about the handsome, evil Shelton Benjamin sitting at ringside. Tonia laughs at the Five-Star Frogsplash.
Maria interviews Mickie James, and Kathy cracks up over Maria’s dress.
Kathy: Is she supposed to look like she walked out of a cartoon? Me: You mean, um, larger than life? Kathy: Exactly. Me: Yeah.
Kathy mistakes Maria’s giddy personality for the actress’s inability to keep a straight face during the interview.
9:30ish to 10ish The Spirit Squad immediately wins over Kathy. She and TLMT talk about dropping wrestling references to their classrooms and how it can get the attention of the bored male students. Their opponents are Kane and Big Show, and we all discuss where they can buy clothing (Very Big and Very Tall Shops). So far nothing has convinced Tonia this is worth her time until she sees the replay of cheerleader Kenny hitting a big legdrop from the turnbuckle during last week’s show. She’s gobsmacked by the hangtime, and now she’s watching intently. The Squad does what they specialize in and fly all over the ring even when they get hit. Kathy is in hysterics (“They’re like little monkeys throwing themselves at him!”). The Squad members scream whenever Kane throws them around, and we all crack up over it, rewinding to watch it over and over. Kane goes nuts and scares off the Squad before turning on his partner. When he chokeslams the larger Big Show, all are impressed.
Kathy: So this runs from 9-10, right? Me: (with bad English accent) This one goes to 11.
This, however, doesn’t work for them as Kathy has to leave. They almost get out the door when Vince and Shane McMahon walk into the church. The skit works for all of us as we crack up over Vince’s arrogance and wait for the divine lightning bolt that never comes. With that over, the gang has to leave. I think Kathy wants to make this a regular event, and I’m all for it.
TLMT and I catch the rest and polish off the wings. Thank God the gang didn’t see Umaga. That would have been too much for them. It’s too much for US. Next week’s Chavo interview reassures us that they are going to give him another chance to play the crazy heel. But we were both stopped in our tracks by Trish with auburn hair. That’s an upgrade for those of us at Stately Tracker Manor. We both marvel at how Carlito is in the full heel mode yet is getting cheered. The main event? Eh. Edge carries the load and does it well. He seems to be in the Benoit Position in this three-man feud, and we hope he manages to take the belt at Backlash.
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Originally posted by Packman V2And the fact RVD actually showed some intelligence by refusing to put his MITB shot up for grabs is great.
He still put up his MITB shot, but he put it up in return for an IC title shot. The match is, as I understood it, RVD winning the IC title if he wins and Shelton winning the MITB shot if he wins.
The impression I got is that Van Dam said "I don't need a week...no, I'm not putting up the Money in the Bank title shot. But how about Benjamin puts up his IC title? Think on that for a week." Though I do think this'll lead to some sort of bargaining segment next week where Benjamin agrees to an IC title shot as long as he gets the shot at the MitB, I'm almost positive that last night it was only established that Van Dam had rejected Benjamin's offer and challenged him for the IC title, and the IC title only.
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Originally posted by rinberg...Finally finally, the only thing I don't like about the Spirit Squad using Freebird rules is that Vince is not allowing the WWE to acknowledge that this has been done before. It's a crack in my suspension of reality when Joey starts jabbering about how this is unprecedented. I don't know what the reason, (maybe they aren't allowed to talk about the Freebirds for copyright reasons?!) I just don't care for it. Relating current wrestling to wrestling history is part of good storytelling on the part of the announcers.
Actually, what Joey said is that at no point in prior history have FIVE men ever been co-champs. That's two more than the Freebirds, and really is unprecidented. They're basically any one of ten possible combinations that can defend the belts. That's crazy.
Another throw away show. Not bad mind you, just nothing very memorable. The Trish segment was OK, and I admit I chuckled at Vince spewing the HHHoly water. The Kane thing was dumb, but maybe it will lead to the return of crazy ass Kane, and even a main event push to the belt. BWAHAHAHAHAH!!! Seriously, someone needs to burn his face, and put the mask back on him, because he is the ugliest babyface in history. Unless that was supposed to be a heel turn last night.
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Originally posted by Tenken347Actually, what Joey said is that at no point in prior history have FIVE men ever been co-champs. That's two more than the Freebirds, and really is unprecedented. They're basically any one of ten possible combinations that can defend the belts. That's crazy.
Ok, that's true. I still wish they would reference the Freebirds though.
Another thing I thought of: You don't suppose they're gonna switch up in the middle of a match do you? I mean their outfits are the same, but they have their names on the back of their shirts and they don't really look that much alike to pull off *that* gimmick with any level of believability.
Also, I had the same impression as Deputy Marshall. I didn't think RVD offered MITB v. IC. He just asked for an IC shot. It probably will work out that way though.
"A study in the Washington Post says that women have better verbal skills than men. I just want to say to the authors of that study: Duh." --Conan O'Brien
Originally posted by flairforthegold13And when you think about One Night Stand, I think we all assumed that H v. RVD would be the most heated match. Actually, you have to think now what type of crowd heat a Cena v. RVD match would get. That might be the smarter match.
No, I think HHH would be the best possible heel for RVD to face at the ECW show. HHH is the ultimate heel with the ECW crowd while RVD is the ultimate babyface. The heat for that match will be off the charts. I also think Edge chasing the champion RVD could be a great feud with some interesting matches.
Loved the Trish mimicking Mickie James segment, although it seemed that the live crowd crapped all over it.
I think John Cena hit the nail on the head with why many fans have turned on him. He should be playing up the street smart thug that gained him popularity but he did soften his character far too much. He also showed a bit of a return to the old Cena with the slapping of HHH and then attacking HHH during the match before submitting Edge to end the match. He needs to follow the lead of Steve Austin and acknowledge the cheers without pandering to the crowd and changing his hardened character that gained the cheers in the first place.
As others have said, the main event next week will probably be Cena and Edge vs. HHH and if the form holds true, Edge will get the pin over HHH.
Originally posted by rinbergFinally finally, the only thing I don't like about the Spirit Squad using Freebird rules is that Vince is not allowing the WWE to acknowledge that this has been done before.
Don't forget the WWF teams The Moondogs (Rex & King and Rex & Spot), and Demolition (Axe & Smash and Smash & Crush) did it too.
But, yes, this is the first 5-way 2-man belt.
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I think what happened with the live crowd during the Trish/Mickie segment was it took them a while to figure out it was Trish and then they started to cheer when they realized it was Trish. But, then they boo'd cuz Trish was saying "Oh My God its Mickie James and I want to be just like her." If you saw the clip on WWE Unlimited with Mickie, it would make more sense why the crowd was booing at the mention of her name. But damn, did Trish look hot. Isn't that her natural hair color or is it a little darker?
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3 backstage skits were cut this week: another Spirit Squad promo, a Matt Striker skit, and a backstage deal with Goldust, Snitsky, Candace Michelle...and a midget. (Specifically, "Shortstack" from NWA Wisconsin.)
The Shortstack vignette is slated to air next week. (Source: Shortstack's blog and NWAWisconsin.com; I'd link 'em for ya, but then it wouldn't be hidden by these magic tags!)
Loved this show. Even cryme tyme didn't bug me this week. Jericho's promo was gold, and who knows..Edge-Jericho would be a solid WM match > It's funny, my friend with whom I always watch wrestling never liked Punk. Until now.