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Obviously we’ll never forget Eddie Guerrero, but tonight WWE gets back to the business of telling stories. I’m not sure it’ll ever be the same, though—even if Guerrero *was* on SmackDown and thus I didn’t get to see him as much.

“The Power is Back” opening.

And two weeks ago, Bischoff had a meeting of all the RAW Superstars, which was just an excuse for the RAW roster to invade SmackDown. Surreal, but it’s not exactly the nWo invasion. (I mean the first one.)

I didn’t see RAW or SmackDown two weeks ago, but… judging by the montage, apparently Team RAW are the bad guys. Interesting.

Forget the lies, the money, we’re in this together…

And we’re apparently in the UK this week, hence the Union Jack—yup, Sheffield, England.

And with the RAW theme still playing, Shawn Michaels, Kane, Big Show, Chris Masters and Carlito come out. Eric Bischoff trails them after a few moments. Odd freaking team, if you ask me.

EB: “Assembled before you is Team RAW! The five RAW Superstars who are going to Survivor Series to prove once again what is so obvious—that RAW is the pre-eminent brand in all of sports entertainment! But apparently, Team SmackDown doesn’t feel that way. As a matter of fact, there have been rumors all week long on the internet, including their own website, WWE.com, that Teddy Long and SmackDown, they don’t wanna wait for Survivor Series. No, the rumor is they’re going to be here on RAW, tonight! But don’t believe everything you read on the internet, see I’ve been here all day long and I have not seen one sign, not one, of SmackDown. As a matter of fact, I’ve got Todd Grisham out in the parking lot on SmackDown watch, let’s check in with Todd.”

Todd’s out in the parking lot, all right, and no.

“The short answer is no. You see they’re not going to be here tonight, because three weeks ago Edge came to me with a plan, and that plan lead to the World Tag Team Champions coming to SmackDown and decimating the World Heavyweight Champion, Batista! And that, as we say here on RAW, is cool! SmackDown won’t be here because of my army, because of my soldiers, because of my strength.”

BS: “First of all Bischoff, we are your nothing. Kane and I went to SmackDown because we wanted to. We wanted to prove that we were unstoppable, and the best way to do that was to chokeslam Batista straight to hell. And if Batista got hurt somehow, it’s too bad. Because bottom line, Batista was in the wrong place. He was the wrong guy, and it was definitely the wrong time. So if any of those SD guys wanna step up—“

And speaking of which, Todd Grisham is freaking out, because JBL’s limo is here, and here comes Team SmackDown. Grisham wants to know why they’re here. Long’s about to answer, but Batista grabs the mic instead.

“No disrespect, Teddy. If you RAW guys got the guts, you’ll bring your sorry asses out here to the parking lot.”

Team RAW consults, and Michaels says, “Have no fear, GM—Team RAW is on the way.” Bischoff is apoplectic— [paraphrasing] “No, no, no, this is a setup, get your asses back in this ring!” He orders his guys to return to the ring immediately, but they’re having none of it.

When we come back, Team SmackDown is getting themselves pumped up—and Team RAW is on their way there. Michaels is taking off his tie, unbuttoning his collar, and this is interesting camera work. This thing reminds me of West Side Story. All that’s missing is the singing. “Team RAW is coming out on top, tonight… we’re gonna watch Batista drop, tonight…”

Carlito says it’s a trap, but Michaels is counting on it. Big Show says that if Batista’s still standing, he and Kane have work to do. And here we go—Batista smashes Big Show’s head into a car window, starts tearing through Kane, Masters has the Master Lock on Rey Mysterio, and we hear a large crash—HOLY SHIT. Apparently Batista got double-chokeslammed on a car, which got totally demolished by it. Long is screaming for medical help for Batista, and the rest of his team is surrounding him with concern. You can’t help but think, though, that Randy Orton’s thinking “YES!”

When we come back, we might actually have a match, which would be good since this is a *wrestling* show, after all. Stay tuned. But seriously, that was an awesome segment.

We hear the opening rock chord of Bret Hart’s theme music, but unfortunately he’s not coming down to the ring—it’s a commercial for his DVD, which looks phenomenal. WWE obviously wants my money and wants me to be happy.

Todd Grisham recaps what happened, and confirms that indeed, Batista got double-chokeslammed on that car by Kane and Big Show. Bischoff runs out, “You want a news flash, I’ll give you a news flash! Don’t mess with RAW and *never* mess with Eric Bischoff.”

“WOO!” Ric Flair’s music plays, and he comes out resplendent in a blue-and-black robe. We’re told that Ric Flair will battle Triple H in a Last Man Standing match at Survivor Series. Apparently tonight’s match will be a non-title match, though. I’d have thought by now they’d have gotten the Intercontinental Title off of Flair.

Huh—his opponent is Trevor Murdoch. *This* is an unusual match.

Flair and Murdoch circle, Flair runs his fingers through his hair, they lock up again, Murdoch hits a shoulder block, but Flair knocks him down with a back body drop. They lock up, Flair’s cornered, and Murdoch punches away on Flair—finally knocking him down—and telling the crowd that he thinks they’re number one. But Flair comes back with wicked chops, punches, and finally knocks him down. Flair heads up top, gets a thumb to the eye, but kicks away—he goes for—something, but Murdoch will have none of it. Murdoch gains the advantage, concentrating on Flair’s back, and hitting an elbow, getting a two-count. Murdoch applies a seated abdominal stretch, I guess, and the crowd’s trying to rally Flair. Murdoch breaks the hold, lifts Flair, scoop-slam, and now Murdoch heads up top—he pulls his kneepad down, getting ready to hit Flair in the back of his skull, but Flair dodges, chops away, and starts going to the knee. Flair tries the figure-four, Murdoch kicks him into the corner, but Flair grabs a handful of tights—“and we get an eyeful of something else”—to get the three-count. Damn, Murdoch’s a fat guy, isn’t he? But at least he’s not Just Another Musclehead.

Murdoch berates the referee all the way back to the locker room, and Flair raises the Intercontinental Title over his head.

HHH: “Impressive victory, Ric. Very, very impressive, Ric. I know what you’re thinking, […] the Nature Boy is back, right? All you’ve done, Flair, is buy yourself some time. This Sunday, Survivor Series, Last Man Standing, it’s not gonna be about winning, it’s not gonna be about losing, it’s gonna be about surviving, Ric. I’ll show you that later tonight. Ric, about a month ago, you said ‘I will beat Triple H if it’s the last thing I ever do.’ Congratulations, Ric, you beat me. Now this Sunday I’m gonna make sure it’s the last thing you’ll ever do.”

When we come back, Tajiri and Rob Conway are having a match, but JBL interrupts and beats the shit out of both guys. No doubt he has something to say.

JBL: “You wanna fight? Do you want a fight? Batista, our World Champion, is going to the hospital right now because of two cowardly guys from RAW.” JBL wants to call out RAW right now—only one, though—Chris Masters.

EB: “JBL, I thought we took all the garbage out. How the hell did you get back in here, anyway? You know what, that really doesn’t matter—what matters to me, what matters to me, is who the hell do you think you are, interrupting a match in my ring—”

JBL says he’s JBL and that’s enough for him. But Bischoff thinks JBL must be the dumbest man on Earth. Bischoff will give JBL a match that’ll knock some sense into him, but it won’t be Masters. He’ll give him a match with the captain of Team RAW, Shawn Michaels. JBL likey. Why didn’t he book a triple-handicap match?

“That’s right, you go, JBL, before I get the rest of the roster out here to beat your ass.” “See you in the main event, Bischoff.” Bischoff invites JBL to go to the concession stand, get some treats, and such, because that match is coming up later tonight and Bischoff can’t wait.

But up next—Kurt Angle and Shelton Benjamin will go at it once more. In my recent memory, Benjamin’s 0-2 against Angle—will this be the time he gets the win? And thank God Benjamin isn’t relegated to Heat this week like he normally is. You want a reason for WWE’s recent problems, I point to, number one, the blatant misuse of talented performers. Which was the same reason WCW went out of business, so…

When we return, we preview John Cena’s appearance on MadTV—I’ll pass.

And, hee, Kurt Angle’s “you suck!” thing is censored again this week—I recall that it was censored two weeks ago, at least I know that from reading the recap. I was watching the Colts/Patriots game, thanks.

Shelton comes out, and he looks as confident as always. Let’s go, Shelton! But just as they’re about to lock up, ALEAYEYEYALEYALEYEA… and Daivari is coming down to be the special guest referee. Oops, 0-3 for Shelton, apparently.

Shelton isn’t pleased, but Daivari is gonna ref. He pats Shelton down for weapons, but doesn’t do the same for Angle. And the crowd’s still rooting for Kurt despite all this. They exchange running moves, two arm drags by Shelton into an armbar. Kurt comes back with punches, and then hits an overhead BTB suplex on Shelton. Kurt lifts Shelton into a backbreaker, and gets one. Kurt kicks away on Shelton’s back, and even does it on the ropes—Daivari is doing a very, very slow five-count, but Angle breaks after one, both times. Snap-suplex gets two, and two again. Kurt applies a rear waistlock, and Daivari asks if Shelton wants to submit--- yeah, right. Shelton gets up, elbows, running moves, flying forearm by Shelton! Both men get up about the same time, but Angle runs into two clotheslines. Kurt comes flying out of the corner, but gets drilled with a Samoan drop. Shelton tries the T-Bone, Angle counters, but Shelton hits the Scorpion Deathdrop, kinda. They go through a great series of reversals, finally ending with Shelton hitting his signature enziguri. Kurt rolls out of the ring, and Shelton comes in after him, punching and uppercutting. But as Shelton tries to return to the ring, Angle gets up behind him and tries to drill him with a German Suplex off the apron, which ain’t happening. Kurt is forced to break the hold, and comes up alongside Shelton, but eats an apron DDT.

They return to the ring, Angle tries the T-Bone, but Angle counters and applies the Ankle Lock. Shelton’s reaching for the ropes, but Angle gets him back into the center of the ring. Now Shelton is again lunging for the ropes—is he gonna get there?! He touches the ropes, but Angle again gets him back in the center of the ring. Now another desperation lunge by Shelton—and he gets there! But Daivari doesn’t call for the rope break. Shelton reverses, finally, into a roll-up, but Daivari ignores it—but he doesn’t ignore it when Kurt reverses into a roll-up of his own. But Daivari rolls Kurt over so that Shelton's shoulders are pinned, and then counts three. Big-time bullshit three-count, but a great match.

The “you suck” censoring has got to go, by the way. After the match Angle says he has something that will change the face of his WWE Championship match with Cena at Survivor Series. You know, I would’ve thought Angle would’ve won the title by this point. (You didn’t say that. *Tell me* you didn’t just say that.)

Tuning into Unlimited for the first time tonight, I see a Survivor Series promo, and, well—that’s it. Oh, yes, *that* was certainly worth the effort.

“Say hello to my lil’ friend!” Scarface after RAW tonight.

Angle’s still in the ring. “For the past couple weeks, people have been asking me why I’ve associated myself with Daivari. To tell you the truth, Daivari and I are a lot alike, because we both have been abused by you, the people. Daivari is a proud American just as I am who has been abused, unjustly abused, by you people just because he’s Arab-American. Lemme get this straight—you people will cheer a misogynist, [something] like John Cena—” (and they do) “But you unjustly deny this man right here, his right of expression as a proud American? As a proud American? Which he is. Which makes me sick. I’m about to change all that, I’ll tell you why. Thanks to Mr. Bischoff, you’re looking at my full-time referee for every single one of my matches. My own personal referee, including the match at Survivor Series for the WWE Championship against John Cena! And, you people *will* show us the respect that we deserve when I walk out of Survivor Series the new WWE Champion! Oh, it’s true, it’s damn true, because you’re looking at a worldwide champion here, baby, and John Cena is nothing, he’s nothing!”

Daivari: [Farsi chanting]

Cena’s on the TitanTron. Cena’s gonna find out the real story, he’s gonna find out what the WWE Superstars think about Kurt Angle. And he walks into the women’s locker room, where Candice tries to seduce him, and he’s gonna get busted for sexual harassment because it’s FUNNY~! Haha. No, it’s not.

In another locker room, Tomko is getting a massage from Snitsky. And Cena accuses them of being gay, because it’s FUNNY~! Haha, no, again Cena is acting like he’s ten years old.

He goes into another room, where The Boogeyman is… doing something strange with a clock and heart. “London Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down— I’m the Boogeyman, and I’m coming to get ya!” Cena closes the door, opens it again, “My fair lady!” And he smashes the clock into his skull. OK, maybe this whole thing wasn’t a good idea, Cena admits, but he wants to hear what the people have to say.

You know, this is a serious momentum killer after the hot opening. “Tell us, what do you think of Kurt Angle?” “He sucks, he sucks,” and so on and so forth. Not one person has the cajones to say anything else. And now Cena gets the crowd to chant “you suck!”, while Angle goes apoplectic. Angle’s looking like a ten-year-old, too, by overreacting to this whole thing. He’s been hearing the crowd boo him throughout most of his career, and the “You suck!” thing has been going on since his feud with Edge in 2002, so he needs to get over it.

Cena comes to the conclusion as an unbiased reporter that Angle still sucks, and he hits the ring, clearing it of Angle and Daivari. Whoop-dee-doo. Careful, though—WWE Logic states that whoever gets the upper hand just before the PPV *loses* at the PPV.

That was about ten minutes of my life, maybe more, that I’ll never get back.

We mention that HBK and JBL will meet in tonight’s main event, but when we come back, Triple H will whoop Val Venis’ ass and hit him with a sledgehammer for no apparent reason face Val Venis in a match.

On Unlimited, we see the “vote” of the Flair/Triple H match at Taboo Tuesday… of *course* the damn steel cage match was going to win, given the lack of an equally violent alternative, idiots. We need to get an independent commission up in this bitch.

In any event, we see black-and-white stills of the Flair/Triple H match, because blood is bad, m’kay? Even though Scarface is next.

When we come back, it’s time for Val Venis to play the game, and it ain’t the game of love, that’s for sure. Anyone wanna predict a Venis upset? That’d be funnier than hell, though. Won’t happen, of course. Still, if the odds on Venis were 200 to 1, I’d gladly throw away $1 for the chance of getting $200 back. As infinitesimal a chance that is.

“Hello, ladies!” Val will no doubt be looking for some payback after what happened to Viscera awhile back. Three weeks ago, I think? Lawler and Coach try very hard to convince us that Venis *could* beat HHH—I’d have believed it in 1999, but not in 2005.

Venis goes right on offense, punches, clotheslines, a scoop-slam, and Venis clotheslines Trips over the top rope. But he allowed Hunter enough time to get a steel chair-- CRACK!! Hey, Venis wins by DQ—does that mean someone owes me $200?

Post-mach, Hunter goes to town on Venis with the steel chair, for no particular reason other than to send a message to Flair. Doesn’t Venis have *any* friends? For that matter, does *anyone* getting beaten down by Triple H have any friends while it’s happening?

Pedigree ends the beat down, mercifully, and this “match” is over. OK, I predicted it’d be a sledgehammer, and it was a steel chair. But hey, I won $200, and I didn’t even have to pass Go! (You can mail me the check at your earliest convenience.)

Someone, Styles, I think, says that Flair had better pack a lunch and dinner for Survivor Series, 'cuz it's gonna be a long night. They're not going to pause during the Last Man Standing match for meal breaks, are they?

Eric Bischoff’s talking to CRZ on his cell phone, and someone comes in, saying Teddy Long is demanding to speak to Bischoff. Bischoff tells dude to escort Teddy to his office, and tells Zed, “You’re gonna love this.” Jeez, CRZ, does *every* member of the WWE roster have your phone number?

This Sunday at Survivor Series, the Undertaker returns, but how’s that gonna work now that Orton’s on Team SmackDown, I wonder?

EB: “Well, Teddy Long, you just can’t seem to get enough of me tonight, can you?” He asks his guys to walk outside. “How’s Batista?” “Stop it Eric, you know how Batista is, he’s hurt and in the hospital, dog.” He tells him that Team SmackDown’s gonna come to the arena later tonight, and Team RAW’s gonna want to get in the ring. So why not make the main event a lumberjack match? “Four guys from RAW, against three of my guys from SmackDown?” “I’m really sorry about that, by the way,” Bischoff says, disingenuously. But Teddy says those are his kind of odds, and says he’s on—and in their match at Survivor Series, he’s gonna smack that grin right off Bischoff’s face, “you feel me?”

We see highlights of the six-woman tag-team match from the Halloween RAW, in which Mickie James took the bullet, twice, for Trish Stratus.

And Candice comes down, accompanied by Victoria, and wearing—an interesting witch-like outfit, with some interesting leather. And Candice shares a small kiss with Victoria—um, okay. WWE propagates stereotypes again—they want you to know that LESBIANS ARE EVIL~!

Mickie James comes out accompanied by Trish Stratus, and to Trish’s music. Damn, Mickie is a very, very hot chick. Mickie wants to fight, Candice wants to do her “sexy” dance and lie in the ropes, but while she’s distracted, Victoria comes up—and while Mickie’s looking in Victoria’s direction, Candice jumps Mickie from behind. But her advantage doesn’t last long—Mickie kicks the shit out of Candice and Victoria. But two masked men kidnap Trish Stratus (no doubt starting a new WrestleCrap article), distracting Mickie and allowing Candice to get a three-count.

Jeez, what’s next—we see a video next week in which Trish Stratus is seen tied up half-naked to a post somewhere? If that’s where they’re going, a big fuck you to WWE. (Except we get to see Trish half-naked, so it ain't all bad, I suppose... OK, let's change topic now...) I doubt they’d do anything like the last thing, but there’s little I’d put past them.

On Unlimited, Mickie James is freaking out—“Where is she?!” The referee doesn’t know. Mickie runs toward the exit, crying, and no doubt she’s gonna go look for Trish. Wouldn’t surprise me if she was the one behind it.

We see a promo for the Flair/Triple H Last Man Standing match at Survivor Series, and then Unlimited blinks back to its chyron.

Oh, apparently we’ll get an answer right now—the masked men were MNM, and Melina was behind the whole thing. “No one’s gonna find you down here.” What, no one’s watching RAW? Melina challenges Trish to a match at Survivor Series for the Women’s Championship—“what do you think about that?” She pulls the tape off Trish’s mouth, and Trish says “I think you’re gonna get your ass kicked.” Apparently it’s on, then. “Melina—WWE Women's Champion. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the face?” And she kicks Trish in the face, knocking her out—still tied to the chair.

And to immediately show the logical fallacy of that segment, Lawler runs from the commentary booth to look for Trish.

Cena vs. Angle for the WWE Championship with Daivari as special guest referee. Triple H vs. Ric Flair, Last Man Standing and apparently non-title. Eric Bischoff and Teddy Long will put on a Flair/Steamboat classic. And Team RAW faces Team SmackDown. Those four plus the women’s match, that’s the Survivor Series card? Thank God I’m not paying $30 for it.

We go backstage to an interview with Maria as interviewer, but she sits there reading the cover of HBK’s book, which apparently means in her mind that she’s read the book. Michaels enjoys the cheap plug—“my new book *is* available in all bookstores”—and talks about tonight’s match. HBK doesn’t agree with anything Bischoff does, and whatever JBL does on SmackDown is his own business. But it don’t fly on HBK’s turf, so tonight Team SmackDown’s gonna find out what it’s like to get RAW.

On Unlimited, Flair isn’t impressed with what Triple H did, because he still hasn’t beaten Flair. (Well, actually he has, a couple times—just not recently.) “One man walks out of that building, they take the last man standing out on a gold carousel, the other guy goes to the hospital.” “Survivor Series, Ric Flair, one more time will prove he’s the dirtiest player in the game.” He puts over how badly he’s been injured in the past, but says this time that *he* was the one who got hit by lightning, so… OK. Anyway— “WOO! WOO!”

When we come back, Shawn Michaels comes out with Team RAW, and does his kneel down in the entryway—but no chyron there, because it would’ve killed someone, since they were standing behind him.

JBL’s limo *tries* to drive up, but limo driver dude can’t drive—he has to stop from crashing into the barricade, how embarrassing. JBL steps out of the limo, followed by Lashley, Mysterio and Orton.

We see a recap of what happened to Batista tonight, and we come back apparently Team SmackDown had gone back to the gorilla position, because they’re just now walking out of the entryway.

As JBL enters the ring, HBK goes after him before he can even get his hat and jacket off. They trade punches, whip into the ropes, Sweet Chin Music is evaded by JBL, who thinks about leaving the ring—but he would have done so right in the middle of Team RAW, so that ain’t happening. HBK gains the advantage, but on a back-body drop attempt, JBL punches HBK in the back, and hits a swinging neckbreaker. JBL opens up with punches on Michaels in the corner, and when HBK begins to come back, JBL goes to the thumb-to-the-eyes maneuver, tested and true. A boot to the head, elbow, two-count. JBL slams Michaels’ head into the turnbuckle, whips him into the ropes, but HBK kicks him, knocks him down, goes for the cover—JBL’s in the ropes. They run the ropes again, Michaels eating a side slam for two. JBL applies the Bear Hug of Doom, and HBK manages to break out after a few moments. They trade punches, Michaels into the ropes, knocks JBL down. HBK heads up top—JBL will have none of it, as he’s knocked down off the turnbuckle. As HBK gets up, JBL sets up—but instead of a clothesline from hell, he goes for the shoulder block, and gets two. Hard whip into the corner fells HBK. JBL pounds HBK’s lower back, good strategy. Randy Orton’s talking shit to Michaels as he’s down in the corner. Scoop-slam by JBL, elbow, but no one’s there. HBK off the ropes, clotheslining himself and JBL out of the ring. Team SD! gently rolls JBL back into the ring, and then pounds on HBK. Team RAW runs over to make the save, and Big Show lifts HBK back into the ring, over the ropes and on top of JBL. Two-count as we fade to commercial.

Unlimited: JBL and HBK are on their knees trading punches. JBL gets an especially stiff one to connect, and tries to parlay that into an advantage in the corner, but HBK reverses, hitting three chops. We get some reaction shots from Orton, Kane and Big Show. Michaels tossed into the corner and back body-dropped by JBL. JBL crawls over and gets a two-count. JBL grabs HBK’s shoulders and drives his forearm into HBK’s lower back twice. Another two-count, JBL complains to the ref who explains Michaels *just* got his shoulder off the canvas, and Unlimited falls silent.

Coming back, JBL’s got an honest-to-God Torture Rack on HBK, but HBK breaks out, uses his speed, and gets a sunset flip for two. HBK’s knocked out of the ring, and he’s immediately pummeled by Team SmackDown. They roll him back into the ring just before Team RAW can get there, and JBL gets two. JBL lifts HBK up, punches him, and then drops one, two, three, four elbows on Michaels. Two-count, and JBL’s visibly frustrated. HBK chokes JBL from behind up until the count of four, and JBL lifts HBK up—just throwing him right out of the ring into Team SD. Orton holds him from behind while Mysterio hits kidney punches on Michaels. Team RAW gets there faster this time, but they’ve got to do better. JBL and HBK get to their feet, trade punches, flying burrito denied by a clothesline from Bradshaw.

JBL lifts HBK, fall-away slam connects. Another two-count. JBL lifts HBK up, gets ready to punch him, but “Iblockyourpunchyoudon’tblockmine” sequence starts in HBk’s favor. Flying burrito, nip-up, inverted atomic drop, only one clothesline this time, scoop-slam, Macho Man Elbow connects—I could’ve sworn Orton was going to interfere with that. Now HBK charges up the superkick, and *immediately* Orton and Lashley roll JBL out of the ring. HBK hits a tope con hilo on Team SD, drags JBL back into the ring, and slams JBL’s head into the turnbuckle. HBK’s bleeding from the nose. HBK tries to whip JBL into the corner, but it’s reversed and Michaels flips in his signature style. HBK’s set up on the turnbuckle, JBL trying for a superplex, but HBK’s trying to punch his way out—and does! HBK’s gonna try the elbow again, and this time Orton *does* interfere, with a smirk on his face. JBL’s signaling that it’s time for the Clothesline from Hell—but Michaels ducks it and hits Swet Chin Music. RKO on Michaels, RKO on Carlito, essentially all hell breaks loose. Lashley’s the last SD! guy standing, and he tries to powerbomb Big Show, he must be tripping. Kane and Big Show double-chokeslam Lashley…

But here comes Batista, taped up like a freaking mummy, basically. He drills Kane and Big Show with a lead pipe, Kane falls out of the ring, and Batista drops the pipe so he can spinebuster Big Show in the middle of the ring. Now hit his music!

On Unlimited, we ain’t done—Batista holds up an Eddie Guerrero T-shirt, and we get an “Eddie, Eddie, Eddie!” chant. A sign reads “Latino Heat still burns in England.” Classy. And after awhile, we play Eddie Guerrero’s music, and Batista does the signature shuffle. I tear up, just a little bit.

Batista holds up a sign with Eddie’s picture on it—“you stole our hearts, lied,” etc.—I couldn’t read all of it.

DASCOOL!: Hell of an opening segment, and Angle/Benjamin was a damn good match despite the shenanigans.

YOU SUCK!: Cena stole ten, fifteen minutes of my life, and I want that lost time to be refunded.

WHAT?!: Who’s got my $200, anyway? I bet $1 on Venis at 200-to-1 odds, dammit!

[And dang, the report I first posted was all busted up. It's fixed now, though, hopefully.]

[Edit 2: Upon further review, Kurt's "victory" over Shelton involved even more heel shenanigans than I originally witnessed. Hee.]

(edited by ekedolphin on 22.11.05 2304)

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    WHAT?!: Who’s got my $200, anyway? I bet $1 on Venis at 200-to-1 odds, dammit!


The WWE doesn't count DQ's as actual "real" losses though! That cheque's on it's way... CANCELLED! HA! HA! HA!

Other than that, decent show. Cena killed it, but as much as I want to blame him for it I don't think it was his fault. It was one of those segments you could tell that some writer fell in love with and thought it would be Emmy quality material. Cena's not The Rock, and I'm not even sure The Rock could make it good.

I thought the crowd censoring during Angle's entrance was funny the first couple times they did it on the first night he did it. I'm downright sick of it now.
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Nuclear Winter: Celebrating two years of mediocre posts.

Sure, Cena's backstage segment was childish and immature. It wasn't going well at all, but you can't tell me Snitsky's "it's not my fault!" wasn't funny.

And The Boogeyman had me cracking up, just because it made no sense and had nothing to do with anything.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.19
Davari is makes a great heel ref, and the Coach should shut up and let Joey Styles talk a little more.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.45
Well, the first segment was pretty jam-packed. I much prefer Smackdown's team to get the win over RAW....Murdoch/Flair was kind of entertaining....I liked Bischoff's line about taking the garbage out and JBL still being in the ring....Angle/Benjamin was a decent 8-minute match, but I hate that they're putting Daivari with him. Really distracts from the good-great matches he can have....Cena's backstage segment was all-right, but the England fans certainly weren't buying into him....

Triple H/Venis wasn't so much a match as it was a brutalization. Clear in getting Trips' point across though....I thought the two hooded men were in cahoots with Victoria. Perhaps Steven Richards? But no, it was just MNM....Michaels/JBL was very average, and it looked like JBL has put on some weight....



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10

    Davari is makes a great heel ref, and the Coach should shut up and let Joey Styles talk a little more.


Joey totally made that parking lot brawl.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.22
Kudos to the WWE for pretty much destroying the novelty of the interpromotional matches. I can totally live with last week's shows because they were heartfelt and awesome. But they've had a bunch of RAW vs. Smackdown matches in the past month, and it's made it feel less special to me.

I just hope they get Smackdown's guys to fill the card for Survivor Series, as there's almost nothing there I want to see (aside from HHH/Flair).



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
Booker T and Benoit will probably have a rematch of some type, and if the Dicks (HaHa) don't debut this week, then I'd guess they'll take on the new LOD on Sunday.

Maybe a Cruiserweight match or MNM defending the belts against the Mexicools or something? God, I never realized how bleak their options were until I tried coming up with matches they could put together.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.60
I laughed a lot at Snitsky's special friend Tomko. This is the second hilariously creepy bit they've done together (first was on a heat webcast), and I'm actually excited to see more.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75

    Well, the first segment was pretty jam-packed. I much prefer Smackdown's team to get the win over RAW....Murdoch/Flair was kind of entertaining....I liked Bischoff's line about taking the garbage out and JBL still being in the ring....Angle/Benjamin was a decent 8-minute match, but I hate that they're putting Daivari with him. Really distracts from the good-great matches he can have....Cena's backstage segment was all-right, but the England fans certainly weren't buying into him....

    Triple H/Venis wasn't so much a match as it was a brutalization. Clear in getting Trips' point across though....I thought the two hooded men were in cahoots with Victoria. Perhaps Steven Richards? But no, it was just MNM....Michaels/JBL was very average, and it looked like JBL has put on some weight....


I'll might get banned for this later, but I do know who this is based on the sheer amount of ellipses (sp?). I won't spoil it, but I just had to share that I finally got one.

Actually, I was upset that CRZ didn't have someone else like Tom K recap Raw and just try to fool us into thinking it was Ekedolphin.

Oh, and on topic, I didn't watch Raw.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.20
Okay, this may have been my eyes playing tricks on me, but when I was watching Candice Michelle open her towel and flash John Cena, I believe I saw part of her nipple on my television.

I must be wrong, or else it would have been all over the internet by now...
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.28

    Okay, this may have been my eyes playing tricks on me, but when I was watching Candice Michelle open her towel and flash John Cena, I believe I saw part of her nipple on my television.

    I must be wrong, or else it would have been all over the internet by now...



I myself thought I saw a quick glimpse of a flesh-colored bra cup covering her boob....but I'm not sure.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92

    I thought the crowd censoring during Angle's entrance was funny the first couple times they did it on the first night he did it. I'm downright sick of it now.


Yeah. Wow, was that ever irritating. The match with Shelton was very good though, and Styles sold Shelton getting closer to a victory with each consecutive meeting very well.

I really try to look past it and appreciate the feud between brands...but seeing HBK, Carlito, Chris Masters, Big Show, and Kane suddenly all chummy to help Eric Bischoff out in his grudge against Smackdown just doesn't make sense. The Smackdown side is a little more believable but suffers from the same problem; isn't Orton's whole thing that he's a selfish heel?

Then again, as I always say, Mae Young gave birth to a hand.




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.05
When the masked guys kidnap Trish, I couldn't have been the only one to think the WWE brought back Hassan's hitmen.

The Lovely Mrs. Anonymous and I didn't really dig the show and turned off the set right after Lawler ran to look for Trish. Can't say I'm digging the PPV card enough to buy it. The Cena segment was nowhere near as funny as they'd hoped. A Snitsky/Tomko team can only benefit that division, just so long as they don't move ahead of Cade/Murdoch to feud for the titles.

I was hoping for a Regal/Burchill run-in since the show was in England. Maybe on SmackDown ...



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
Is it wrong that I watched the Boogeyman spot over and over on TIVO? Yes, but shit, that had me cracking up...

It sure seemed like the crowd was siding more with SD! during the lumberjack match, especially when Batista came out.

Now the debate is on...pay $35 bucks for something that's not looking that appealing, or try and stomach a Jets/Saints game on Sunday night...

Fun.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74

    It sure seemed like the crowd was siding more with SD! during the lumberjack match, especially when Batista came out.


The crowd seemed quite weird/awesome the whole night. People cheering for Angle has come to be expected (and i'd hoped one of the guys Cena put the mic to in the crowd would just shout "ANGLE RULES~!"), but Cena was getting quite a few boos along with the cheers; maybe someone else got out of JBL's limo out of shot at the same time as him, but i'm sure he got a bit of a positive pop too (as did "fish and chips", which was cool).




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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.09
So sue me, but I liked this show. Yeah, even Cena's segment, although they really should have come up with something better than reprising a much-rehashed line from Legally Blonde.

It was kind of odd to see JBL playing face for most of the show, and even odder to notice he was pretty good in the role. If you'd told me in 1999 that I'd be voting for BRADSHAW for best interview in the RSPW-ies, I'd assume brain damage ...



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.61
The Davari thing could potentially be good in a Bill Alphonso sort of way. It'll definitely get huge heat on Angle (especially if he wins). I also like the build between Angle/Benjamin. Hopefully, this blows off at WM.



By the way, Storm's gimmick includes 1.) telling the audience to shut up, and 2.) occasionally making everyone stand for the Canadian national anthem. You know they don't know what to do with a wrestler when he's making fans stand for a national anthem. It's like waving a white flag and saying, "This guy has no personality -- we give up."

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35

    I also like the build between Angle/Benjamin. Hopefully, this blows off at WM.


With Angle as the defending heel champion? I'm with you there.




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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
I watched RAW for the first time in at least a month if not longer... got REALLY burnt out by the whole "yay multiple handicap matches, and we're pushing Chris Masters, and we're ruining a perfectly hot feud btwn Edge and Matt" ... anyways, I took a look again after Guerrero's passing, taking Dawn's words to heart on the ECW dvd .. to paraphrase "I learned to cherish what you have while you have it"

hell of a great match with Angle and Shelton, everything else was either bleh or trainwreck like. I'm with the other posters -- the alliance of faces and heels just doesn't make sense and isnt' believeable, and the complete lack of an attempt to explain it bugs the hell out of me.



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