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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.41
    Originally posted by Phantom
      Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      -why have Christian get destroyed by Batista? Especially after losing to Flair. Wouldn't it be better to have Christian throw Tomko to Batista in order to escape harm, in order to build up Christian constantly escaping Batista until the fans are dying to see Batista finally get his hands on him? Maybe have the match ME a Raw for the title. Of course, that would mean building up Christian with some wins, which apparently isn't in the anyone's playbook, so I can see where the flaw in my logic is.
    Youre surprised to see the WWEs inability to push a smaller, blonde-haired, loudmouthed Canadian who nonetheless can play the crowd like a fiddle with his promo work and can work a solid match? Or that they would job such a wrestler out to Ric Flair? Ive said it once, Ill say it again: Christian is evolving into the second coming of Chris Jericho.






First, they went Batista/Christian a few weeks back on RAW from the UK, so the fans have seen it before.
I don't go with Christian as Jericho though. I'd go back a bit and say if Christian were to float at the same level, he would be a heel Tito Santana. Should Christian somehow get to work with someone that could spark a memorable feud, he could be Tully Blanchard.
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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.16
    Originally posted by redsoxnation

    I don't go with Christian as Jericho though. I'd go back a bit and say if Christian were to float at the same level, he would be a heel Tito Santana. Should Christian somehow get to work with someone that could spark a memorable feud, he could be Tully Blanchard.


I'd say that Christian is more like Headshrinker Samu.



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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
Nah...Christian is the one and only Captain Charisma. Like someone said, he can play the crowd on his hand. He is a lot like Jericho...an awesome heel Jericho, that is. Speaking of Jericho, if they turn him heel, he has to do the ARROGANT COVER~ in every match, without fail. But I digress - Christian needs to win, or at least avoid having his ass handed to him to be credible. I mean, being killed by Batista puts Christian on the same level as all other heels on Raw. And he needs to be higher than that if the general public is gonna buy him as a serious contender. As of now, Christian has no major wins to warrant a title shot of any kind, much less the main event. We know he has the ability and the promo skills, but he's got to be allowed to showcase those skills.
As for Christian haters (you know, not part of the Peepulation), I've got one last thing...
"For all the peeps, and the fools
Say it loud, Christian Rules."

Have fun.



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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    First, they went Batista/Christian a few weeks back on RAW from the UK, so the fans have seen it before.

We've seen HHH/Batista before, but it hasn't stopped them from running it on 2 more PPV's, despite Batista already having a clean pin on HHH. You could build up Christian/Batista enough to get fans to buy into it, provided Christian gets to look credible.



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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
All I know is that Viscera channelling Barry White was the greatest thing in the history of ever.




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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.74
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    Live Raws before the One Night Stand PPV:
    May 23: Green Bay, WI
    May 30: Calgary, AB
    June 6: St Louis, MO

    Yeah, none of those are really ECW Country.


St Louis provided ECW a sellout when they were here for a WRESTLPALOOZA and TV taping for TNN years back. Its a STRONG wrestling town.

Was I the only one who really enjoyed the "She may need an ICU if she gets into that bed with Vis" line JR spouted?

Stevie on Raw, means of course, Stevie is ready to return to HEAT.

Personally, and this is just me, but it looked like Lita felt much more comfortable clinging to Edge than she EVER looked walking around with Matt. Not that it gave me a good feeling or anything, I still felt an "aw shit, that's just wrong" in the pit of my belly.

Who gave Lawler the black eye?



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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.62
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Who gave Lawler the black eye?


Maybe the same person who gave Masters one too.



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.74
Sorry, didnt see Masters much, I tend to FF through the Masterlock Challenge. Then again, he did look pretty swift avoiding Stevie when he was getting out of the ring. They guy MIGHT have a bit of athletic ability.
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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.02
It was just odd hearing the way Jim Ross was referring to Lita at the end of the show. Because...well you know Netcop's old saying? "Shoot comments that aren't supposed to be shoot comments."

(edited by The Vile1 on 18.5.05 1416)



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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
It was pretty much meant to be a shoot comment.

All those comments were pretty much meant to be shoot comments. That's the whole point of the angle, so they can use shoot situations and comments for heat (which they're unable to do with work situations and comments, plus this is much easier than actually thinking up a good storyline - see Jericho cribbing his last twenty off-TV interviews for his skit.)



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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.02
Well WWE has certainly never shied (shyed?) away of airing people's dirty laundry on TV and making angles out of them. Matt Hardy worked for them for quite some time during the peak of the Attitude era, so he should know this by now. It doesn't make it any less stupid and sad to me though. Especially considering the whole Kane/Lita/Matt Hardy thing was one of the stupidest, lamest angles of all time. Are we supposed to forget that Kane forced Lita to have sex with him and impregnated her? Or how he forced her to marry him? Or how he injured her boyfriend out of commission.




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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.41
    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Are we supposed to forget that Kane forced Lita to have sex with him and impregnated her? Or how he forced her to marry him? Or how he injured her boyfriend out of commission.
Pretty much. Similar to how were supposed to forget that:

- HHH was the blue-blood whod curtsy on his way to the ring.
- JBL was a beer-swilling redneck.
- Angle was pro-abstinence.
- John Cena used to hide behind Bull Buchanan.
- Katie Vick ever happened.




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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.98
    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Well WWE has certainly never shied (shyed?) away of airing people's dirty laundry on TV and making angles out of them. Matt Hardy worked for them for quite some time during the peak of the Attitude era, so he should know this by now. It doesn't make it any less stupid and sad to me though. Especially considering the whole Kane/Lita/Matt Hardy thing was one of the stupidest, lamest angles of all time. Are we supposed to forget that Kane forced Lita to have sex with him and impregnated her? Or how he forced her to marry him? Or how he injured her boyfriend out of commission.


Yeah, but isn't all of that worth forgetting if we get to hear JR go off like he did at the end of Raw this week. "She's a married damn woman!" "That Harlot!" "Is that the kind of man Edge is -- the kind that want's to break up a marriage!?!"

That was classic, and part of the reason why I think JR is still the best commentator in the business. Maybe fifteen years ago when he was calling Flair-Funk he was a better wrestling commentator, but right now he's an excellent Sports Entertainment announcer.
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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.24
    Originally posted by Phantom
      Originally posted by The Vile1
      Are we supposed to forget that Kane forced Lita to have sex with him and impregnated her? Or how he forced her to marry him? Or how he injured her boyfriend out of commission.
    Pretty much. Similar to how were supposed to forget that:

    - HHH was the blue-blood whod curtsy on his way to the ring.
    - JBL was a beer-swilling redneck.
    - Angle was pro-abstinence.
    - John Cena used to hide behind Bull Buchanan.
    - Katie Vick ever happened.

Mr. Phantom, if I could stick my hand through this monitor and shake your hand, I would.

I really want to kick JR in the nuts...



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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.44
    Originally posted by The Vile1
    It was just odd hearing the way Jim Ross was referring to Lita at the end of the show. Because...well you know Netcop's old saying? "Shoot comments that aren't supposed to be shoot comments."

    (edited by The Vile1 on 18.5.05 1416)
That's Herb Kunze's old saying, by the way. I've stolen it a few times myself.



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