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|  #21 Posted on 11.5.04 0150.45 | Instant Rating: 6.22 | So, does anyone wonder when someone backstage will inform Jim Ross that's it's not "scalded dog", it's "scolded", and how retarded he sounds saying it wrong?
Other than that, I loved how Bischoff comes out and announces a match for *next* week, and the WWE production crew goes for a shot of the crowd (rightfully) sitting on their hands. After that, he announces another match for next week, and while you'd think that the crew in the truck had been paying attention... nope, there's *another* shot of fans not giving a shit, only this time it's a close-up.
I'm starting to think that Vince really believes he has the same kind of following that ECW had. The fans had absolutely NO reason to enjoy hearing about matches that the people who will be there next week will get to see, and yet it's like Vince still expected them to start chanting "WWE! WWE!"
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|  #22 Posted on 11.5.04 0152.24 | Instant Rating: 5.10 | Pretty good show... not as hot as last week, but I enjoyed it.
I wish Shelton had more ring time, but it's a good build to the final match betwenn H H H and Shawn Michaels.
Batista added the ab-flex pose to his back spread this week... Decent match... I don't know why, but I'm always impressed when Bautista pops up have his power moves. Poor Tajiri... I wonder wear they're going to go with this.
I enjoyed the little segment with the women... nothing too long, nothing too short.
Edge and Orton was decent... but, I found myself wandering ... probably still upset that I locked myself out of my Apartment...
I enjoyed the women's matchup... sick clothesline bump by Victoria... Gail broke out the Tequila Sunrise... wonder what they'll have her debut in her next match with Victoria. I liked Victoria's new outfit... although I was afraid that she'd fallout during the submission.
Ah, I just loved the Eugene match... I've never heard an audience laugh so loud and often during a wrestling match. It seems that Eugene is growing on Regal... once he hugged Eugene, I didn't think he'd have the heart to try and screw him over. Loved the double axehandle off the top.
The Christian/Jericho match was pretty good... I was kinda bummed that it started at 7 till the top of the hour. Good stuff, and once again... I was afraid that Trish was going to fall out during the submission. Awesome bladejob by Christian...
Entertaining RAW... can't wait until next week.
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| #23 Posted on 11.5.04 0205.12 | Instant Rating: 6.11 | Another good RAW in a long, long line of 'em. Seems like ever since Benoit arrived, everything's been turning up roses. Awesomeness.
And for the curious...
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TV 14 - DLV [CC]
Pyro
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12 Boxes (3 rows of 4 each) [Afterburn, Experience, Bottom Line, Smackdown; Pyro, Pyro, Velocity, Heat; Experience again, RAW, Smackdown again, more pyro]
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Smackdown logo
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HeAT logo
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Eric Bischoff (and Johnny Nitro)
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Union Underground
The moon (orange tinged)
Some girls
Wacky speed-blur driving
Limousine crashing into lowered garage door (2 angles)
Triple H spits water
The band
Ric Flair
The band
Chris Jericho's entrance
The band
Lita in ring
Randy Orton goading the crowd
The band
Shelton Benjamin spinkicking Triple H...from 2 angles!
Shawn Michaels in an abdominal stretch
Rhyno makes a face
Chris Benoit in a Rhyno half-crab
Kane makes a face
Triple H bleeds on the mat
The band
Bloody Triple H gets superkicked by Shawn Michaels
The band
Batista makes a face
The band
Stacy Kiebler
Edge spears Eric Bischoff
Victoria salutes the crowd
The band
Kane calls upon his pyro
Maven missile dropkicks Ric Flair
Kane calls upon his pyro...and gets it
Kane's pyro as seen from afar
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Randy Orton raises the IC Title from a turnbuckle
The band
Triple H
The band
Chris Benoit holding up World Title at WrestleMania XX
RAW Logo
Christian kissing Trish Stratus
Chris Jericho makes a face
Christian & Trish at WrestleMania XX
Shawn Michaels on ramp during entrance
Chris Jericho with somebody in the Walls of Jericho
Some girls
Triple H water spit, from the side
Triple H water spit, from the front
RAW Logo
Eric Bischoff looking up
The band
Chris Benoit diving headbutt...twice
The band
Edge makes a face
The band
Molly getting head shaved by Victoria
The Rock soaking up cheers from the crowd
The band
Trish at Mania
The band
Triple H
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| #24 Posted on 11.5.04 0224.51 | Instant Rating: 3.36 | Overall, a dull show, in my opinion. Nothing too special, but the Christian/Y2J match was really good. I also liked the Edge/Orton match.
But...no Benoit? Grrrrr.....
Oh yeah....I love how over Eugene is. The crowd loved him. I admit that I like the character.
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| #25 Posted on 11.5.04 0225.16 | Instant Rating: 4.83 | Have I just not been paying enough attention to Orton to notice his bizarre entrance pose? Is that some kind of ballet stance he's doing or what?
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| #26 Posted on 11.5.04 0350.37 | Instant Rating: 8.47 | Live from San Jose ...
Not sure what it means, but I've never heard an audience not pop at all for anybody during the opening Desire video. I was concerned, but apparently they just wanted live wrestling rather than taped stuff. Also, there was a lot more of the arena curtained off than I would have expected -- nearly all of the upper deck was totally closed.
Just one dark match: Carly(?) Colon (I think this (gerweck.net) is the guy) d. a blond guy announced as from San Jose. These were notably better than just routine local jobbers, & was a nice opener.
Heat taping:
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-- Rhyno d. Stevie Richards: Rhyno was incredibly over with the crowd! (Did I miss something???) He's enough of an experienced professional to just go with the flow, but he seemed slightly suprised. And Stevie got roundly boo'd for rolling out of the ring to avoid the gore.
-- Hurricane & Rosie d. jobber tag team: Hilarious (in a good, fun way). Jobber Mini-Ganoush trying to figure out what to do with Rosie was a riot -- even Hurricane was laughing at that.
-- Garrison Cade w/ Coach d. Val Venis: Coach gets a lot of heel heat, but I'm not sure he knows how to forward some of that over to Garrison. Cheat with feet in the ropes, & Val was not pleased.
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Lillian's national anthem continues to kick all sorts of ass.
Why is Jerry Lawler so over? The cheering did have a certain adolescent male timbre to it.
I wonder if Randy & Rene have decided to share their International Male catalogs with some of the other guys. Maybe it was just me, but I was enjoying HHH's technology (even) more than usual tonight.
HHH vs Shelton was lining up to be nice, & the Shawn runin was very good. (You know the audience is into the match & not expecting a run-in when they don't notice til the guy gets to the ring.)
(Personally, I would have been much happier about HHH & Shawn bailing into the crowd if my seats had been where I expected them to be.)
Batista is over in San Jose! (Or else the Gumby cos-player was inciting the crowd that way.) That really shocked me. Quick match with beatdown, but well done. The final powerbomb seemed much bigger live than on TV. I like the smirky-snarky Batista. Lots. ;->
And Orton was very over too. (They were fiddling the crowd sound on the broadcast to try to tone some of that down.) When Mick Foley puts somebody over, he don't screw around.
I can't really figure out what the deal is with Edge. I love Edge, but there's just a little bit of something missing -- just a little of the bouncy energy that he hasn't got back yet. (I don't think I was the only one in the audience who was picking that up.) And unfortunately I was not in the ideal position for Edge's tush, but what I saw made me happy! :-)
One thing I really appreciated during Orton/Edge is that the commercial wasn't so obvious to us live (as they sometimes are). Flair was out there doing his thing, which kept things flowing much better. Wooo.
The crowd was more interested in the women's match than they sometimes are. And having Jazz back was a nice suprise.
Lita's reaction to Trish's "prank" -- baaaad!!!
Matt Hardy's strobe lights are awful live. If putting the crowd into a catatonic siezure is what they intended, it's working. We were confused to get Val's entrance music again. Kane is excellent, but I was disappointed that we only got him on video.
Eugene was even more mad over than it seemed on TV. There were Eugene signs everywhere, the backstage stuff was all well received, & the crowd just loves him. Dinsmore is excellent at staying in character -- from the time he came out, through the match, through his exit, he was in character the entire time. Y'all didn't really get a good look at the pout that he did back at Regal after Regal half-heartedly tripped him, then feigned innocence. Good, good stuff. Eugene was playing airplane up the ramp & doing cartwheels, & pointing out his signs. Crowd loved it.
Conflicted Regal -- brilliant. He's good.
Did they manage to keep the huge, 3-part "Blow me, Trish" sign off air? Hopefully?
Very nice taped piece for Benoit, but ... why? It wasn't the best timing for us there live, either. No particular clue why the audience decided to "What?" back at Johnny & Bischoff during their announcements, other than it just being bad timing for the crowd.
Jericho/Christian seemed much shorter than I think it really was. (I think that's a good thing.) I wsa sitting at a really bad angle for a cage match, but the off-the-top stuff is just amazing live. Chris' jump from the top onto Christian was a beautiful thing. Tomko bashing on the cage with the steel chair was much more impressive live. Kevin Dunn missed the best shot of Jericho dragging Christian back into the cage as Christian was dangling outside -- Christian's feet totally flailing in the air, & the way they were holding on, it pretty nearly looked like Chris really was holding Christian up -- nice.
No after-show at all. Chris hung out on top of the cage for a while being lauded :-), but that was all. (Chris either seemed to have really banged himself up a bit, or was continuing to sell all the way out. A little limp & just a touch of general loopiness.)
Fun show. Unusual audience reactions, but fun stuff. | Tyler Durden
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| #27 Posted on 11.5.04 0355.12 | Instant Rating: 1.11 | Originally posted by Nate The Snake
Have I just not been paying enough attention to Orton to notice his bizarre entrance pose? Is that some kind of ballet stance he's doing or what?
Ballet stance? What the f**k?! Are you trying to insult Randy??
As you should know, itīs - of course - NOT a ballet stance!
Actually he stole that pose from Rico!! ;)
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| #28 Posted on 11.5.04 0728.33 | Instant Rating: 4.60 | | Great show last night. My favorite part was actually when Gail and Molly were harassing Stacy before they beat her up. "Did you just say that you're more attractive than Gail? Did I just hear that?" Classic. Also, was I the only one who thought the Benoit tribute, with the dramatic music and all, made it look like Benoit had just died? | SC
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| #29 Posted on 11.5.04 0732.38 | Instant Rating: 6.87 | Originally posted by emma
Lita's reaction to Trish's "prank" -- baaaad!!!
Did the crowd live laugh at this as much as it seemed like they were on TV? Because it seemed like everyone just thought Trish was hilarious for doing this. I mean, so did I, but that's not the reaction they would hope for, I'd wager.
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| #30 Posted on 11.5.04 0742.08 | Very strange. One week after I complain in a Velocity thread that WWE 'style' doesn't seem to allow wrestlers to swap moves into their movesets to keep their matches fresh, Gail breaks out the Tequila Sunrise, Jazz busts out about 4 different submission holds in the space of a minute, Tajiri does a nifty faceplant into the barricade from the apron on Batista, Jericho pulls out a top-rope butterfly suplex, we get that cool headscissors -> powerbomb counter in the Edge/Orton match...
Not that I'm complaining, mind.
What do you think? Might this mark a slight shift in WWE philosophy, or was it more a matter of "We have a whole bunch of heavily promoted matches, so let's let them break out a few extra spots"?
And why do the women get to use all the cool submission holds? =P | RoadWarrior24
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| #31 Posted on 11.5.04 0753.23 | Instant Rating: 0.50 | Originally posted by Tenken347
Great show last night. My favorite part was actually when Gail and Molly were harassing Stacy before they beat her up. "Did you just say that you're more attractive than Gail? Did I just hear that?" Classic. Also, was I the only one who thought the Benoit tribute, with the dramatic music and all, made it look like Benoit had just died?
did anyone notice during this how much taller Stacy is than Gail or Molly, that just looked strange to me | The Thrill
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| #32 Posted on 11.5.04 0759.33 | Instant Rating: 4.25 | 
Originally posted by StevieRichards
They have been slowly killing Victoria.
In my opinion, she was the most entertaining woman they had on there for over a year, and suddenly, shes Ivory v.2.0.
And there wasn't a rhyme or reason for it, she's just slowly been changing.
It finally hit me tonight that the old Victoria character has died. And that makes the baby Jesus weep.
Because if you're crazy, winning the Women's world title is THERAPUTIC! Bathe in the healing light of the strap!
Star wipe, and...we're out.
Thrillin' ain't easy.
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| #33 Posted on 11.5.04 0801.12 | Instant Rating: 0.48 | Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
So, does anyone wonder when someone backstage will inform Jim Ross that's it's not "scalded dog", it's "scolded", and how retarded he sounds saying it wrong
That's how they say it in Oklahoma and Texas...I've never heard it any other way than "scalded". It probably is wrong, but there's no changing it.
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| #34 Posted on 11.5.04 0810.32 | Instant Rating: 4.90 | Originally posted by The Thrill
Originally posted by StevieRichards
They have been slowly killing Victoria.
In my opinion, she was the most entertaining woman they had on there for over a year, and suddenly, shes Ivory v.2.0.
And there wasn't a rhyme or reason for it, she's just slowly been changing.
It finally hit me tonight that the old Victoria character has died. And that makes the baby Jesus weep.
Because if you're crazy, winning the Women's world title is THERAPUTIC! Bathe in the healing light of the strap!
It's not like me to put myself over or anything, but EH EH EH EH EH EH *HEM*. 
And also not like I'm one to recycle lines, but it IS important to note that side effects to the WWE Antidepressant Women's Title include:
Allergic or Toxic:
Rash, Pruritus (skin inflammation).
Neurological:
Headache, Tremor, Dizziness, Asthenia.
Behavioral:
Insomnia, Anxiety, Nervousness, Agitation, Abnormal dreams, Drowsiness and fatigue.
Autonomic:
Excessive sweating
Gastrointestinal:
Nausea, Disturbances of appetite, Diarrhea.
Respiratory:
Bronchitis, Rhinitis (inflammation of the nasal mucous membranes), Yawn.
Endocrine:
Weight loss.
Musculoskeletal:
Muscle pain, Back pain, Joint pain.
Urogenital:
Painful menstruation, Sexual
dysfunction, Urinary tract infection, Frequent micturition.
Miscellaneous:
Chills
Because also, look what's happened to Molly since losing it...it's like Tony Soprano in the early part of Season Two. :P
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| #35 Posted on 11.5.04 0831.43 | Instant Rating: 3.46 | Scalded, as in, had something really HOT thrown onto it. Ran like a Scalded Dog. Back in my old stomping grounds (Mississippi) we said Scalded Ape.
ANYHOW, Shouldnt Molly at least have some hair by now?
I like the Nidia BBJ(before boob job) version better. It makes her look too thick on tv. Now, at my house, that thickness would be greatly appreciated, but, on TV, a bit much.
I was hoping for a longer Benjamin and HHH duel. Was looking nice for a bit there, and then a run in.
Orton waiting to get kicked, kick whiffing, Otron sells it like he was kicked in the stomach, then, replay it again and get kicked in the head this time. BAD, BAD, BAD, Edge should know better. And, I may as well say it, I never really cared for Edge as a wrestler, but some of his promos were gold. So, when he is being serious, I lose focus and just dont care.
Cage match was great, nice spot where Xtian was between ropes and cage and takes the springboard kick to the back of the head, into the cage. And, Y2J shrugging his shoulders right before the leap from the top of the cage, as if to say "Eh, Why not?" was great.
And finally Eugene. Man that match ROCKED! Are they planting seeds for him to go all Hulk (green guy, not orange one) if he gets his head hit too much? His facial expression changed, and he got a little more intense. THAT would rule. Regal is god, so his contribution was great. I would love to see them two win the Tag Titles and have him always try to lose the belts while Eugene makes the save, just in the nick of time.
As for his music, I was hoping they would go old school and let him use an older theme every week. I am sure GRAB THEM CAKES would still sound just as sweet without JYD coming out to the ring. BTW, I was shocked how much he looked like Matt Bourne once he got his jacket off. (JACKET OFF?!?!?!?!)
Good show, didnt quite live up to the hype, but with all the hype they gave it, not much would have.
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| #36 Posted on 11.5.04 0833.31 | Instant Rating: 5.75 | Man, I could have sworn that the WWE was in Canada for this show. The crowd was just all over the place with their antics, and I loved it. From the love for Evolution (with Lawler acting like nobody was cheering for Orton when it was clear that the crowd loved him), to the joy of the Trish prank, and to the love for Eugene.
Raw was another great show where almost everything worked. And I may be in the minority, but JR and Lawler's arguing entertained me again this week. It's always better when Ross stops putting up with Da King and verbally beats him down.
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| #37 Posted on 11.5.04 0842.07 | Instant Rating: 4.19 | Salami's RAW Top Three
(1) I'll have to chime in on the "dog" issue....yep, definitely SCALDED. A dog with something very hot thrown on its back runs very fast. A "scolded" dog (which just sounds gay) would probably only tuck his tail and wimper off.
Definitely scalded.
(2) The Christian-Jericho match showed me one thing: Christian is definitely a mid-card wrestler. There has been a lot of calling for him to move up the ladder. I just don't see it. Last night proved it to me. Just the feeling I got from him....not very commanding. And usually a cage match gets me nine kinds of worked up.
(3) The Eugene angle, while fun at the moment, will be played out in a matter of weeks. I mean, what else can they really do with the guy?
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| #38 Posted on 11.5.04 0914.36 | Instant Rating: 7.00 | On the 'dead old Victoria' thing, I think she's been showing the behavior of a non-cyclical Manic Depressive.. she was down, depressed, and crazy, but now that she has the strap, she sees herself as popular, vibrant, etc.. if the character follows what I think will happen, she'll likely go insane again the second she loses the belt.. and not a moment before..
Trogdoooor!!
Trogdooor!!
Trogdor was a man..
I mean.. he was a dragon man..
I mean.. he was just a dragon..
But he was still..
TROGDOOOOOR!
Trogdooor!
Burninating the countryside..
Burninating the peasants..
Burninating all the peopleeeee in their tatchroofed cottages!
THATCH ROOFED COTTAGES!!
And then Trogdor comes in the NIIIIIIGHT!
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| #39 Posted on 11.5.04 0934.46 | Instant Rating: 4.95 | Originally posted by RoadWarrior24
did anyone notice during this how much taller Stacy is than Gail or Molly, that just looked strange to me
Stacy is 5'11" tall *before* you factor in the fact that she was wearing 3 or 4" heels. Gail and Molly are both 5'4", so Stacy is 7" taller than them before you factor in her heels. (And to whoever said Nidia looked short and chubby next to Stacy... Benoit would look short and chubby next to Stacy. He's an inch shorter than her, probably weighs twice as much as she does and he has bigger boobs than Stacy.)
Since nobody else has seemed to mention it, I'll give HHH some credit. In what was expected by most to be a HHH squash, in a match where he probably even had a legit claim to victory, HHH gets his ass handed to him by Shelton Benjamin, only lands 2 offensive maneuvers in the entire match (neither of which was a sledgehammer or Pedigree) and then wins (presumably) by DQ after getting attacked. Benjamin (presumably) loses the match and still comes out looking better.
There's one thing that can still make the Matt Hardy/Kane feud great, but Matt only has 2 weeks left to pull it out. He has to talk about how he's already beaten The Undertaker twice, so Kane should be no problem. | Stilton
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| #40 Posted on 11.5.04 1142.14 | Instant Rating: 3.90 | Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
So, does anyone wonder when someone backstage will inform Jim Ross that's it's not "scalded dog", it's "scolded", and how retarded he sounds saying it wrong?
I've actually thought of that before, Tribal P., but then I also figured if I was a dog, and someone threw a pot of boiling water on me, I'd probably run even faster than if I was merely "scolded", so I let it slide.
I also thought this last night while watching RAW. "Hey, Batista, you know there's a big difference between using some steroids and using ALL the steroids. Ease up, man. We know you're big."
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