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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85
    Originally posted by fuelinjected
      Originally posted by HMD
      Up until now Benoit was booked as a top guy. Tonight he wasn't, he was booked as a guy who couldn't beat Shawn Micahels cleanly. "Real Deal" no more. No need to tie yourself in a knot over that fact, but that's how he was booked so maybe that's a sign of the company's level of faith in Benoit.





Maybe Vince Mcmahon himself cutting a promo, making a point to say (twice) that Benoit is "the real deal" is also a sign of the company's faith in Benoit.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.11
    Originally posted by Hoodle
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Orton still blows in every conceivable way.


    He sells stiff shots as well as (if not better than) anyone else in WWE right now. I still love that cookie-sheet sell he did at Backlash.

    Soapbox time . . . . Honestly, I think Orton's got a bad case of DiCaprio syndrome or something going on - in that he's so pretty and overhyped that lots of people exaggerate his flaws to an *absolutely rediculous* level out of jealousy . . . I mean gimme a break, the kid is not that bad. (Granted, the reverse is true too, some people exaggerate his virutes for the same reason.)

    You may not like him, but "blows in every concievable way?" You know - exaggerating to that degree does not help you convince anyone of anything, it just makes people not take you seriously.

    EDIT: I mean, if Orton "blows in every concievable way," then how would you describe someone who gave a performance like Jackie Gayda's debut? THAT blew in every concievable way . . . and that's not exaggeration.




    (edited by Hoodle on 3.5.04 2051)


Sigh. There are other "pretty" wrestlers that I never had a problem with. Pleeease, let's not do the "ur just jealous cuz he's soooo sexy" thing. Ask Jeb about it, it's moronic. He's better than Jackie Gayda, I'll give you that.

    Originally posted by Fuel
    Oooh ooh maybe just maybe they have to try and sell Chris Benoit versus Shawn Michaels as a Pay-Per-View Main Event in a few weeks? So maybe just maybe they didn't want a decisive finish? And maybe they wanted to give Shawn a reason to snap and take out Triple H so he can go film his movie?


Man, you never agree with me but you're not usually this snarky. Bad day? Anyway, if they're planning on using Shawn and Benoit as a main event, why have they had two free full-length TV matches in the last couple months? Why did they not protect Shawn at Backlash and have Hunter tap again? Why didn't they both have visionary falls so there would be a genuine question as to who is better? All the booking so far tells is Benoit can't beat Shawn one-on-one.

I'm just saying that when Benoit is still in the process of getting his main push you can't have him throwing away visionary falls like that. He's not at a point yet where that won't hurt him. And forgive me for having a memory, Captain Convenient, but this is the same Shawn Michaels who ass-banged Jericho's career last year, and no-sold his tap job at Backlash last week, and this is the same Benoit who was booked like a freakin' flavour of the month when he came off SD to RAW. Remember, the getting knocked out, the jobbing, all that stuff that didn't do much for him? That made him look weaker than any Royal Rumble winner in recent history? I just don't want to go back to that. I didn't say sound the alarm, but given the track records here I felt it could use a look.

    Originally posted by Fuel

    And if Orton completely blows, you must be watching some kind of scramblevision television set where you don't see his tight punches, vastly improved timing, great facials and selling.


Yeah, ya got me. Couldn't be I have a different opinion of him than you. That'd be absurd. This guy has had about one good match, and he was carried to it. And a few okay matches and he was carried to those. He can't cut a decent promo (Backlash was pitiful and didn't nearly justify the emotion and the length of time they put into the feud). He us monotone and emotionless, and when he screams it's like someone just turned up the volume on his monotone emotionlessness. Maybe your TV missed him brilliantly screwing up that spot with Harley Race the other week. It was called a punch. Now if Randy Orton was in a tag-team, which is where someone with his experience level and current skills belongs, I'd have no issue with him. He has no obvious superiority to any number of guys wallowing in generica right now.

And apart from that...He's my X-Pac. I just can't stand him. Let me have that.







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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.41
Man, my tv died right at the Eugene trainging bit, what is this HHH bottle thing everyone's talking about?




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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Sigh. There are other "pretty" wrestlers that I never had a problem with. Pleeease, let's not do the "ur just jealous cuz he's soooo sexy" thing. Ask Jeb about it, it's moronic.


Sigh. (<---------thats so friggin' annoying, man.) Look, there's generic "sexy," (think Jindrak or maybe Cena) and then there's model-level *SEXY,* which is the kind of sexy that is intangibly unique. This is a crucial difference.
(Today, Orton would be the only man I would put in this category in WWE today. HBK probably fit this category about ten years ago.) There's a huge difference between the two categories there, and Orton is firmly in the latter category. Add the fact that he does have noticable flaws and Orton is in the group which is invariably the one that falls victim to the scapegoat phenomenon.) The argument of "well, other pretty-boys don't bother me as much" is irrelevant because of this.

And using Jeb as a backup does not exactly help you out when I am accusing you of exaggeration. Jeb's commentary is routinely nothing more than laughable because of his bewildering amounts of exaggeration. His rants on Orton frequently border on the absurd. At first I honestly thought they were a satire mocking Orton-detractors.

My whole point isn't that you have to like him. My point is that you exaggerate his flaws to an absurd degree. Yes, HE HAS FLAWS, and yes, not liking him is certainly a valid opinion, but no, I will not let you "just have" a completely unfounded, unreasonable, and unsubstantiated claim.

Orton ain't great yet, but "blows in every concievable way" is quintessential i-hate-the-pretty-boy overblown BS.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
"No need to tie yourself in a knot over that fact, but that's how he was booked so maybe that's a sign of the company's level of faith in Benoit."

I'd say a bigger sign of of their level of faith was putting him over clean in the three biggest main events of the year so far, but hey-one screwy win on a free TV show probably used to hype a PPV will ALWAYS mean more, right?

"Anyway, if they're planning on using Shawn and Benoit as a main event, why have they had two free full-length TV matches in the last couple months? Why did they not protect Shawn at Backlash and have Hunter tap again?"

Two words: Ladder Match.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by Greymarch
    Man, my tv died right at the Eugene trainging bit, what is this HHH bottle thing everyone's talking about?



After showing Eugene taking Regal to town with some slams and submissions, the camera zoomed in on a tired Regal taking a break, with a Triple H water bottle looking over his shoulder. Regal paused and looked confused briefly, before slowly turning to the side to look at the bottle (which in turn turned to face him). After giving Patented Regal Look Of Disgust #2, the camera panned out to Eugene holding the bottle, who then spit water in Regal's face and did the Triple H pose.

Later, when Regal threatened to take Eugene to school with chain wrestling, amid dramatic music, they did a 'drama cut' to Eugene looking happy, and then to the water bottle doing.. uh, just sitting there like a water bottle.

Then Eugene made Regal tap to the Regal Stretch. ;)
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.08
    Originally posted by geemoney
      Originally posted by ScreamingHeadGuy
      Mike Chioda is the referee in stripes (not Hebner?).

    Yeah, I've noticed Chioda getting a lot more title match assignments lately.


Yeah, I haven't seen Hebner for several weeks. Is he not around, or is he just reffing matches I ignore? Wonderful scene with Eugene and Regal. Regal is just moping there, and this little plastic head appears at his shoulder, and he turns around... I choked on my drink when I saw that.



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
All throughout Eugene's training, the Fed cut to shots of a HHH water bottle (check ShopZone if you need to see the pics) and Tom Pritchard. Also, Eugene spit all over Regal's face in an attempt to emulate 'the Game'.







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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.99
Once again, I have to totally agree with HMD's assessment of Randy and I hope that there are still other Randy haters available who aren't afraid to speak up, because the love that he's being showered with ever since thumbtack night is just absurd. Like HMD said, if he was floating around in tag-teams or lower in the mid-card where his type normally dwell, he wouldn't be quite as despicable. There are guys more obviously talented than he is that don't get nearly his push, and as long as that's happening and Randy continues on without improving in a way that grabs me then I'll continue to resent him. And what's the big deal everyone's making about his facials? Um yeah, I've seen the best of 'facial-istic' guys and Randy doesn't quite hold a candle. And he still needs a move set. Just two consistent non-finisher, non chinlock moves really could be a vast improvement. And a personality. And I hate his European uppercuts. There you go. He's no better than Bob Holly.

Now then, Shawn seemed to have brought out some of his old working self tonight. Best Raw match I've seen in months, 'nuff said. Did Ross mention that Shawn was born in Arizona? I wasn't aware of that but I suppose that it is an explanation for his lack of Texas accent.

Gail Kim is not what I'd call a suitable in-ring replacement for Lita. By the way, for anyone who's ever contemplated about her true gender orientation...well, all I have to say is I can't find another explanation for that scream of hers. I'm sure there is one?

Eugene rules. Conway vs Eugene should have no reason to not rule.

Raw is rule...I mean, is ruling lately.

--Oh and hoodle, no. Now hindsight is 20/20 and all but I stand firm when I once again say that Randy is NOT all that appealing and that Shawn at 38-39 is STILL better looking than him. There from a fan who has no reason to scapegoat Randy so-called attractiveness. :)

(edited by darkmatcher on 3.5.04 2242)
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.18
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Anyway, if they're planning on using Shawn and Benoit as a main event, why have they had two free full-length TV matches in the last couple months?


Right now it's sweeps time, explaining this one. And I don't think they've even begun to go as all out as HBK and Benoit can for a PPV event.

    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Why did they not protect Shawn at Backlash and have Hunter tap again? Why didn't they both have visionary falls so there would be a genuine question as to who is better? All the booking so far tells is Benoit can't beat Shawn one-on-one.


Reasonably sure Shawn got hit with a sledgehammer in his surgically repaired back and then tapped out to a move that put the pressure on it. That makes Benoit's eventual overcoming of HBK all the more important too if he's still underdogging it up to that point. I don't exactly believe he was though. As there was nothing there that made me think that HBK had Benoit beat as nobody was really moving around post-Superkick.

    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    and this is the same Benoit who was booked like a freakin' flavour of the month when he came off SD to RAW. Remember, the getting knocked out, the jobbing, all that stuff that didn't do much for him? That made him look weaker than any Royal Rumble winner in recent history?


This is just stupid and I can't even think about it. Let's think here. He was the first person into the rumble. The Big Show was built as being impossible to eject from the ring in this Royal Rumble. Then Benoit did the impossible and not only lasted the entire rumble, but then eliminated the x-factor that 6 men combined couldn't get rid of. I think he was booked as the strongest Rumble winner since just about forever, in fact. And he was still the UNDERDOG going into Wrestlemania, so all of that was to plant the seeds of doubt and make the audience wonder in he could pull it off. WHICH HE DID.

    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    That'd be absurd. This guy has had about one good match, and he was carried to it. And a few okay matches and he was carried to those. He can't cut a decent promo (Backlash was pitiful and didn't nearly justify the emotion and the length of time they put into the feud). He us monotone and emotionless, and when he screams it's like someone just turned up the volume on his monotone emotionlessness.


His promo post-Backlash was solid, but I agree his promos were vanilla up to then. There's a difference however, and it's NOT a subtle one between an opinion and what would be considered ignorant thought. Saying he blows in every conceivable way, is ignoring everything he's done in recent weeks (ever since Wrestlemania) and can't even be backed up with facts.

    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Maybe your TV missed him brilliantly screwing up that spot with Harley Race the other week. It was called a punch.


It didn't seem that screwed up to me. The punch was thrown in a stilted and stiff manner and Orton moved out of the way. Was the punch supposed to be so powerful that Orton sailed into the ring and then Shelton Benjamin came out for no reason at all to protect Harley Race who already seems to have the advantage over Randy? And before anyone goes to his other huge "blown spot" with the RKO on Y2J, that one was obviously just as much Jericho's fault as anybody's as he didn't give up any friggin' slack on the Liontamer so Orton would've had to rip Jericho's head off with the RKO for it to work with Orton solely carrying that finish.

It's okay for you not to like the guy, but to say he's a complete waste is just ignoring the obvious and stupid partisan wrestling fanboyism. He's not great yet, but he's improving steadily and was selling like a fucking king in the 6-man tonight.



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.11
    Originally posted by Hoodle
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Sigh. There are other "pretty" wrestlers that I never had a problem with. Pleeease, let's not do the "ur just jealous cuz he's soooo sexy" thing. Ask Jeb about it, it's moronic.


    Sigh. (<---------thats so friggin' annoying, man.) Look, there's generic "sexy," (think Jindrak or maybe Cena) and then there's model-level *SEXY,* which is the kind of sexy that is intangibly unique. This is a crucial difference.
    (Today, Orton would be the only man I would put in this category in WWE today. HBK probably fit this category about ten years ago.) There's a huge difference between the two categories there, and Orton is firmly in the latter category. Add the fact that he does have noticable flaws and Orton is in the group which is invariably the one that falls victim to the scapegoat phenomenon.) The argument of "well, other pretty-boys don't bother me as much" is irrelevant because of this.

    And using Jeb as a backup does not exactly help you out when I am accusing you of exaggeration. Jeb's commentary is routinely nothing more than laughable because of his bewildering amounts of exaggeration. His rants on Orton frequently border on the absurd. At first I honestly thought they were a satire mocking Orton-detractors.

    My whole point isn't that you have to like him. My point is that you exaggerate his flaws to an absurd degree. Yes, HE HAS FLAWS, and yes, not liking him is certainly a valid opinion, but no, I will not let you "just have" a completely unfounded, unreasonable, and unsubstantiated claim.

    Orton ain't great yet, but "blows in every concievable way" is quintessential i-hate-the-pretty-boy overblown BS.


Look...I am not going to debate the level of sexiness a man can have, and I can't believe you are. That is a baseless and subjective not to mention weird argument. Every bit as subjective as my exaggerations. He appeals to me in no way as an entertainer and I would never buy a ticket to see him. Which can be reduced to blows in every conceivable way. And you don't have to like that, but it's one man's opinion, nothing more.

Oldschool, would they have booked Austin like that? All I'm saying is if you're getting behind him, DO IT. No screwy wins. Don't put ANY chinks in the armour. I didn't say it was a fact, guys, just that it was something to think about.







(edited by Hogan's My Dad on 3.5.04 2241)


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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    He appeals to me in no way as an entertainer and I would never buy a ticket to see him. Which can be reduced to blows in every conceivable way.


Thank you, that proves my point quite nicely.

EDIT: And no, debating relative sexiness is not entirely baseless and subjective. There's a reason some people can be supermodels, and others cannot - there's very little that's subjective about that. (HINT: is has to do with popular opinion, and not any one specific person's)


(edited by Hoodle on 3.5.04 2248)

(edited by Hoodle on 3.5.04 2250)
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
    Originally posted by HMD
    Man, you never agree with me but you're not usually this snarky. Bad day? Anyway, if they're planning on using Shawn and Benoit as a main event, why have they had two free full-length TV matches in the last couple months? Why did they not protect Shawn at Backlash and have Hunter tap again? Why didn't they both have visionary falls so there would be a genuine question as to who is better? All the booking so far tells is Benoit can't beat Shawn one-on-one.


And that's the route they've been going with Benoit, as the scrappy underdog. First, he couldn't win the big one, and he went the distance and won the Royal Rumble. Second, he couldn't win the title, he made Triple H tap out at WrestleMania. The fans obviously remember, they're still chanting "You Tapped Out" at HHH. Third, there was no way he could do it again, he makes Shawn Michaels submit to the Sharpshooter in Canada. There's no way the old Shawn Michaels would have ever done that. Fourth, he got jumped by Evolution and thrown into a tag title match later that night, no chance, he wins the Tag Team Titles. Fifth, that was a fluke, no way it could happen again, wins the rematch.

Now he can't beat Shawn Michaels one on one. Triple H, being the cunning man that he is, screws both Michaels and Benoit. Michaels doesn't get the title, Benoit still hasn't proven he's the better man. HHH is leaving, they need a Main Event for Bad Blood, it seems only logical that Chris Benoit overcomes his next obstacle.

    Originally posted by HMD
    And forgive me for having a memory, Captain Convenient, but this is the same Shawn Michaels who ass-banged Jericho's career last year, and no-sold his tap job at Backlash last week....


That's Grade A BS. If that feud happened the same way with anyone but Shawn Michaels, no one would have said a damn thing. Consider that Jericho did not want to lose to Michaels at WrestleMania, for one. Michaels beat him on a fluke pin and Jericho kicked him in the nuts. Second, WWE has had no plans to elevate Chris Jericho since WrestleMania 18. So all Michaels did to Jericho was sell for him, give him two really good matches, one at WrestleMania and one on RAW where he tapped out. Man, what a burial. He can't help if WWE doesn't want to do anything with Jericho. It's not like he was being Triple H circa 2002-03 and sandbagging him in the ring.

And Chris Benoit IS the flavour of the month. They're not banking on him being anything more then a guy warming the belt for Triple H. If they get some good mileage out of it, great, but that's all he or anyone else is doing on RAW. It could be worse, HHH could have not tapped for him at Mania, and on every single RAW house show across the country. Michaels could have not tapped for him in Edmonton. They could have left him as a total fluke lame duck champion. But they've made a damn good effort since his title win to push him as the real deal when everybody in the company knows he's just warming the belt until Triple H is ready to win it back.



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
    Originally posted by darkmatcher
    Now hindsight is 20/20 and all but I stand firm when I once again say that Randy is NOT all that appealing and that Shawn at 38-39 is STILL better looking than him. There from a fan who has no reason to scapegoat Randy so-called attractiveness. :)

    (edited by darkmatcher on 3.5.04 2242)


But I am talking about mass popular opinion of what is considered extremely attractive, in a purely contemporary context.

Any one person's opinion of who is pretty or not is irrelevant. :)
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.04
Random RAW thoughts:

Gail Kim's music is too similar to Victoria's.

No matter how scary Kane is, Lita can't act. Hardy's not much better (an actor, that is).

There was a time when I never thought I'd say this, but I think I'm loving the whole Eugene angle. Regal is as awesome as ever.

I really have nothing to say about Orton. I don't hate him. I don't love him. He has his uses.

Tyson Tomko is still the lamest "Vince-thinks-it-sounds-cool" name in WWE right now. Soon to be third behind "Hirohito" and "Mordecai".

Give me tubby Trips who isn't champ over roided-up Trips the ball-hog any day.

Is it just me, or does it look like Shelton Benjamin's push is slowing down almost as soon as it began?

Steel cage next week? Cool.

Vinnie's cameo could have been more significant, I think.

I don't think Benoit not winning clean tonight is a sign of the brass losing faith in him as champ. Since he got the strap, his pops have been steadily growing, he's been improving exponentially in promos, and he looks as good as ever in the ring. The thing about his character is that he's not bullet-proof, he's just a hard-working perfectionist underdog... he needs some close-calls to keep that fresh.

Set your VCR's! Eugene's in-ring debut is next week!








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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.11
Jericho challenges the world champ? GREAT!
I always wanted to see Jericho/Benoit for the title!
But when will it happen?
Definetly not next week(Jericho/Christian/cage)!
Probably not at Bad Blood(Benoit/Michaels)!
Most likely not at Summerslam(Benoit/HHH)!
So, when???
Two weeks from now on Raw?
If thatīs the way itīs going to happen then hereīs the result:
Walls of Jericho on Benoit-HBK interferes-Superkick to Y2J-Benoit covers him-Kick out-HHH interferes-Pedigrees both men-DQ!
What I mean is this: Iīd love to see Jericho/Benoit, but why now? Why during a hot program like Benoit/HBK/HHH?
Save it for later! Make it mean something!




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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.10
Great RAW tonight!!

The opening match was pretty hot and the audience was pretty into it. It's a shame that Shelton didn't get much time in the ring...

The Hurricane/Conway match was decent. Nice elevated Roll of the Dice/Corkscrew by Conway... I thought that he was going to follow-up the hotshot with a Sling-Shot suplex... Still, his finisher was a Holy-SH!T moment for me.

I was digging the Victoria/Gail match... aside from the botched fall from the punch... Gail's work has become a little more solid... I kinda miss her Lucha style, though.

Kane squashed poor Stevie... geez, he sold the aftermath like a champion... I really thought that he was hurt.

Eugene, Eugene, Eugene. That's it, I'm sold... He busted out the Iron Claw while prancing around... I love the guy now... I was cracking up the whole time... the cheesey music, the cuts to Pritchard, Regal's reactions... Regal getting the Regal Stretch applied to him... great stuff.

The main-event was awesome. I don't know why, but I always get scared when someone goes for a top-rope dive to the outside... I guess I've been that way since Flair hurt his ankle doing a double-axehandle to Henning back in the late 90s.

Anyhows, RAW was a great show and we have a bunch of Marquee matches lined up for next week. Can't wait.
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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.24
An IC title feud for Benjamin doesn't sound like slowing down. If you mean Orton is a step down from HHH, well doh..
They needed those quick wins over HHH to let us think he was that damn good. Insta-build instead of slowly rising to the top.

And if Vince's cameo was more significant, it would be all about Vince. Now it was "Vince is here for the match. Wow. that must mean the match a big deal. I Better check it out!" Good usage imo.

And I totally agree on your HHH statement, Stilton.
I said the same thing to a friend last night (watching last week's Raw) You'd almost think the muscle mass prevented him from moving and staying healthy..

And as for Jericho saying he wants a title shot. I don't think they meant that he demands it next week. He just says it to show he is still in the hunt. Ofcourse Christian said it too, so I expect a match between those for the #1 contendership. Or as someone said a Elimination chamber match.
(WOW...Christian, Jericho, Benoit in that match? Let's add Edge and Jericho and well..HHH. The skills in that match would be off the charts! )



(edited by dMp on 4.5.04 0923)


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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.95
- The women's division is dead without Trish.

- Matt Hardy acts, Version 1 dies.

- - HBK does a moonsault to the floor. That was just great because it was a wrestler doing it not a freakin' 180lbs gymnist. You gotta love the way he holds back his great moves that could kill him for big matches, making them more special.

- If people have a problem with how Benoit was booked tonight I can't wait to see what happens next week when Evolution starts to get some of their wins back.






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I agre with Kims music and Victoria's sounding too close. When Victoria came out, I said "didnt we just hear that?"

Best part of the Regal/Eugene segment was Eugene tumbling in the ropes and Regal looking over and saying "Dont hurt yourself, sunshine". I laughed like a moron!

I think the HHH run in was either to plant the seeds for HHH/HBK part 29, or just a way for them to remind us that HBK still has other issues and fueds to deal with. Either way, great match until the ref bump.

And, seeing them both lying flat on thier backs, and seeing the top of thier heads, who has less viable, growing hair, HBK or Benoit? Its a draw I tell ya!



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