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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.98
    Originally posted by Toast Jr
      Originally posted by kazhayashi81
        Originally posted by StampedeFan23
        What was the name of the submission move that Gail Kim used tonight? Any guesses?


      It's called a Cristo. It's a Lucha submission, but Sonjay Dutt does it quite a bit too.(so sayeth my Lucha/indy fed head friend)


    That was the coolest thing I have seen in a long time. I hope Gail continues to bust it out.




Yeah, that was the Christo. Done by one of Ultimo Dragon's protege from Toryumon named Dragon Kid.

What would be even cooler is if they start countering the Christo with Darkness Dragon's "not this time" counter to it....the Judah.



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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.39
    Originally posted by A Fan
    They really need to move HHH out of the main event picture, because if he gets the title back in one on one match against Benoit, I fear for anymore Benoit pushes. I have heard HHH wants to break Flair's 16 world title reign record, but I don't think that will be advisable since HHH without the belt has lead to bigger ratings and buyrates. If HHH would do a Jericho and stay in the mid-card for awhile it would certainly help get new stars over like Shelton.




Yeah, he's been damaging the main events for the last few weeks huh? Tajiri, Shelton Benjamin... that gold hogging punk!




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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.40
Well, Greymarch, if you actually read the post, I was appluading HHH for working with the midcard the last few weeks. I do feel HHH is best served working fueds with other talent ie not Shawn and Benoit, to help get people like Shelton, Tajiri, Rhyno and even Orton when the time comes over. HHH has hogged up the main events for three years now, its time to let someone else get the spotlight. Now, with Benoit as champ, we can get Benoit/Shawn, Benoit/Kane if they can reserrecut Kane's career, Benoit/Evolution.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
I can't believe that nobody is taking Regal to task for his over-acting on the pyro. He went into insane convulsions, ruining the angle for me. But he wasn't even the worst offender. Rob Conway reacted to the pyro as if he had been tazered by Scott Hall at Starrcade. I heard even D-Von Dudley thought Rob was hamming it up too much.

Man, there's "overdoing it" and then there's "OVERDOINGIT!"

(edited by Torchslasher on 27.4.04 0929)


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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.98
    Originally posted by kazhayashi81
      Originally posted by StampedeFan23
      What was the name of the submission move that Gail Kim used tonight? Any guesses?


    It's called a Cristo. It's a Lucha submission, but Sonjay Dutt does it quite a bit too.(so sayeth my Lucha/indy fed head friend)


Actually, it's now called "Stilton's fantasy".



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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.40
-Lita/Victoria v. Gail/Molly-Gail really shined in this match! A match with Molly & Vic in & Kim looks the best, who'd thunk it!(Lita offense looks like she's solo dancing as she punches, Lita still bad so somethings stay the same). The armbar-crucifix is damn awesome by Kim. Smart move to put Vic in there for the match & leave Lita's wrestling out of it, negative is Lita gets a hot tag & is made to look more important then the actual champ. Memo to Vic, little boys do not want to be kissed, most boys think girls a yucky... Look it's Kane, Molly rolls out of the ring(she's smart) Lita stays(she's not). Kane corners & smells her(hard to read Kane's facial expression, it was easier with the mask). As I'm trying to figure out if Lita smells bad or not she slips out & bumps into Matt(first bump she's taking in months), she thought Matt was Kane(does Kane have teleporting powers now). Kane walks behind & hurts Matt.

-Coach/Tajiri/HHH interview- Hey it's Coach, and out comes Tajiri who wants a rematch. Coach declines and insults Tajiri as Tajiri gives some kicks. HHH comes out and looks happy but sneaks a sack job on Tajiri. As HHH talks about how it should be his opportunity for the title (I Smell Triple Threat, Triple Threat!! For the last LAST LASTEST LASTIEST LAST TIME EVER). Tajiri crawls his way back (how dare him) HHH walks up to him and GREEN MIST! in the face, HHH sells it like it's the ultra dangerous chest largening BLACK MIST! but it was simple GREEN MIST... HHH rolling on the floor growling looks like he's turning into the Incredible HHHulk. Oh man Incredible Green HHHulk yelling at plant was laugh out loud funny. IF CRZ was writing a report I'm sure he'd say "Hey HHH stop yelling at Lillian oh wait that's an actual a REAL flowerpot" and I'd write negative emails to him.

-Rhyno vs. Conway- Gawd help me but this Eugene this as actually growing on me. Eugene throwing out random WWE facts, and listening to Regal saying "Put that down, Stop that" actually got my interest. I didn't see anything too bad in the ring but must be honest was paying attention on Regal & Eugene. Eugene turns the pyro off as we see Ross & Regal perform your "overselling of the night", distracts Conway as Rhyno Goar Gore Goar him. Someone was watching the latest SD and thought the Pyro distracting RVD spot was kool!. The overselling award maybe should go to this new ref, what the heck is with that count. He's like a fish out of water haha... La Rez wants Eugene in the ring now & complains to Johnny Nitro he makes a match for a couple of weeks and I must admit I'm intrigued. Jeeze 3 segments & I compliment Gail, HHH and Eugene must be a full moon or something.

-Christian vs. Grandmaster Sexay- Can it be 4for4!? Nope. Christian talks about wanting the World title and to prove it he'll fight the GMS(riiight). 2&half minutes of boring nothing for this match. Y2J(4) music hits and does the VERY "original" run through the crowd attacks Christian from behind and put the Walls on Trish as Tyson pulls on HER ARMS to pull her out of the ring(Is that smart pulling on someone's arms while they are in the Walls?)... Trish has went from common valet to official flowerpot as she did nothing of anything tonight. I'm tired of big dudes with tattoos, I'm sick of that look. Christian wrestled an uneventful match & why is Jericho in the ring wanting Tyson or Christian to come fight him yet he ran through the crowd to avoid a Tyson confrontation?(moron). Once again these 3under-impress. If my complaining about this is repetitive it's not as repetitive as this crap of an angle. END IT.

-HHH vs. Tajiri- Haha either HHH is ill or he still got some green mist in his face, I chuckle at HHH face. They worked a real good match, HHH gave Tajiri more then any common mid-carder has given Tajiri. One thing I didn't like was Tajiri begging for a countout but the rest of the stuff was freakin gold! Didn't think Tajiri would win, and I certainly didn't mind HHH winning this one but being a fan of Tajiri he showed up as a good challenge and had an entertaining match. Very good Stuff... One major negative is Lawler, and I was complimentary of him the past few weeks but damn making fun of someone pronunciation is acceptable if you throw it out there once. Saying it OVER AND OVER AGAIN makes you looking like a phuckin racist piece of sh*t which Lawler sounded like during this match.

-Kane vs. Hardy- Hardy goes to wrestle Kane but can't compete. LITA SAVES MATT! HA nothing says great strong babyface then being saved by your former girlfriend as you try to fight for her. Kane kisses Lita... For this angle I wouldn't mind a bizarre twist. Can this officially keep Lita out of the ring, please.

-Lawler/Orton/Race interview- Lawler comes out & shills diva magazine. Calls Trish a sl*t(I find that word so belittling to women, maybe the worst word you can call a woman). Wait wasn't Lawler pro Tristian now he bad mouths her for a cheap pop(idiot). Hey Gayda not on Raw anymore tell the production guys as they skip their supposed #1Face champ Victoria. Out comes Stacy for her non-sectional appearance of the month... Finally out comes Orton who gets in Race's face, I'm thinking no way, NO FREAKIN WAY he's going to spit in his OMG HE DID! Finally Shelton comes & gives a major beating on Orton, ORTON IS BUMPING LIKE MAD! He sold the clothesline ala Trish(when she was relevant) as he falls high on his body and folds his body on impact, Great Bump/Sell Orton! Orton finally retreats.

-Edge/Benoit vs. Flair/Batista- Batista veins scare me, Benoit has a boxing style LONG announcement. I found this match to be a-lot better then last weeks. I like seeing the faces allowed to be alot more forceful on the offense instead of your usual face always in peril. I'll compliment Batista, he's becoming really smooth in there & for a big man seems to have a decent flow in there. Vicious chops by Benoit on Flair. Nice ending with Flair going for the Figure 4 on Benoit but the legal man Edge comes flying in with the(Britney) Spears... HHH runs in at the end and attacks our faces HBK saves us as he gets Evolution out of there. But hits Benoit by accident. Edge confronts him as Benoit gets a sharpshooter on HBK. Edge breaks that up as Benoit & Michaels stare eachother down as out diva in the middle Edge tries to calm the situation hehe

-OtherStuff- Hillary Clinton on WWE TV. HA right after we see Lawler pretending to be Bill by supporting T&A

-Line of the Night: Ross "Kane LITERALLY scared Lita to death" - These announcers are getting dumber by the day.
-Sign of the Night: "Fozzy played at my prom" - There wasn't much competition but that has to be it.
-3Stars of the Night: 1)HHH. 2)Gail. 3)Orton. - There was alot of good performances tonight, anyone in the main event can be here as well.

Lot of people stepped up & impressed me tonight, some names I wouldn't expect. I mean Gail, HHH, Eugene, Orton, Batista! That's a real good sign. Damn forgive me but I'm even interested in Kane & Lita if they go to a direction that's not reform Team Xtreme. The main event was great the 10PM match was very good. Some interesting & good direction they seem to be going with alot of the angles... EXCEPT once again Y2J/Trish/Chrisitan. This is just nauseating. Just separate these 3 already! Trish is doing nothing but standing there like a trophy, Christian got his muscle, she doesn't need to be there. Let her have angels with women. Let Christian win the tag title for the 39 time with generic muscle guy & let Y2J do something else, I don't give a damn what just something else. If they want to continue, send them to Heat cause they are the worse things on Raw right now. I like these 3 but they are pointless now


(edited by Net Hack Slasher on 27.4.04 1505)



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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.95
Random Raw Thoughts:

- What was going on with Victoria's hands when she put her arms up? They were waving and shaking like she was in a sixth grade choir.

- You know, I really thought Lita looked a lot better in the ring last night.
(Just kidding)

- Ahh! Kane! Smelly smelly, kissy kissy! Now we know what he was like before he killed Katie.

- As long as he's taking orders, Tajiri, can you get me some mandarin chicken?

- So, J.R. says HBK earned his title shot. How? Losing two months in a row?

- Oh my God, Eugene IS a smark! Matt Hocking called it!

- Off topic, but Rob Conway bares a striking resemblance to Hugo Weaving.

- Lawler said he was the sound guy... why is he doing the pyrotechnics?

- Todd?! What the hell! Go back to Sunday morning.

- Christian and Trish are together, right? Do they ever kiss, or does Christian just pull her hair?

- Whatever happened to that horror movie that was supposed to be starring Kane? Because I think Lita was auditioning for it.

- Lita... you was here... and you was smoochin' with 'Taker's brother!

- Democrats on my TV during wrestling! Ahhh! Hillary Clinton! Ahhh!

- Batista hasn't been able to eat in a week? Shouldn't he be dying soon?

- J.R. says Batista is hungry? Of course he is! He said he hasn't been able to eat in a week!

In other news:

AT&T Collect Calling has made it's return after a one week hiatus to defeat Burger King and become two-time World Commercial Champion.



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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.85
    Originally posted by Nuclear Winter
    Random Raw Thoughts:

    - What was going on with Victoria's hands when she put her arms up? They were waving and shaking like she was in a sixth grade choir.


She has both jazz hands AND spirit fingers


    Oh my God, Eugene IS a smark! Matt Hocking called it!


Because he said something about Pat Patterson winning a title? If he was a smark he would've said Rhyno's fat and Rob Conway is boring. By the way, Rhyno's fat and Rob Conway is boring.


    AT&T Collect Calling has made it's return after a one week hiatus to defeat Burger King and become two-time World Commercial Champion.


Burger King aired five times; I counted live because it got progressively less funny every single time. Did CALL-ATT air more than that? I ask because, well, I'm interested.



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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.95
Yessir, AT&T Collect Calling aired 6 times. Burger King, Godsend (starring Robert DeNiro and the gay guy from that one movie) and MX Unleashed all came in at 5.



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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
I believe Victoria was actually doing the "booty shake" (or some version of it). I'm pretty sure she did the same thing last week. Ignore the hands next time you see her do it.



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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.72
    Originally posted by Nuclear Winter
    Christian and Trish are together, right? Do they ever kiss, or does Christian just pull her hair

I've begun to wonder that too. The only time I remember them actually kissing was WM.



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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
    Originally posted by DarkRenegade
    Comment from TWELVE year old sister: "Maybe she's mad because she realized she's the only woman now that blows all of her moves"


Easy now, just because Gail pulled off a crafty little spot(yet another that makes me wonder if she pulls all her spots from the Smackdown games) doesn't mean she isn't bound blow another move eventually. And fwiw, Victoria landed pretty badly on her standing moonsualt. Wasn't the first one she blew either. Gals, really might as well leave the high-flying to the well-trained and better rounded performers from the Orient until you get your shit together. You don't have to rely on flips to convince crowds of your skills.

Randy Orton is getting a push very similar to(if not exactly resembling) HHH's...I mean he's paired off with a stable(Evolution--McMahon Hemsley) to remain interesting, sent out to humiliate and defeat legends(Foley--Foley) and given the chance to "breakout" in hardcore type matches(ditto). Oh, and lets not forget the resemblance in non-wrestling attire.
Reminds me of why I hate both, "overprotection"(i.e. shoved down throats by any means) pushes are so lame and really make me ill. Don't get me wrong, HHH earned his pushed a lot more than Randy has his, and is far more talented(on a good day..or in 2000). But when the signs are THIS obvious to me then I have a hard time appreciating them. Maybe Randy will have looked to "earn" his push eventually, I don't know, but falling on some thumbtacks is NOT going to do it for me. And humiliating Harley Race is a joke and can't help Orton. I don't care, its especially shady coming from a company that already didn't treat him well during his 80s stint, and from a guy who hasn't shown any real talent.

Um..but to show I'm not skeptical about everyone, Edge rules! Seriously, he looked a lot more fluid in the ring this week I mean I can't believe how easy it is for the web to turn on a good-looking, non-Benoit style performer if he shows even one single flaw. Edge is doing a great job and doesn't look out of place in a main-event. Certainly not anymore than "Juice"tista..though to be fair he looked to improve as well.

And I too look foward to Conway vs Eugene if Eugene is allowed to be no-nonsense. Both are said (and Conway's shown) to be great performers and I'm sure could put on quite a fluid match.
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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.69
OK, Here we go...

1) Divas tag match -> OK match...a little question during the match, is Victoria and Steven Richards done? Just wondering. Kane comes out, and wants to kiss Lita. Hmmm, I think Lita has a beautiful scared face (especially when her eyes are completely open).

1a) Lita finds Hardy, and Kane finds Hardy, and beats him up. OK.

2) Coach comes home. ZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Tajiri comes in. "Riar, Riar." 2 Kicks, and HHH comes in for no reason, whatsoever. Oh yeah, just to beat on Tajiri and yap about not being in the title match next week. Then he goes after Tajiri again and gets misted. Sells it like he got hit by 10000 volts of electricity. Funny.

2a) HHH yells at a plant. Reminds me of the blindfold match vs D-Lo Brown in Las Vegas. Just started to yell at the turnbuckles. He eventually finds Bischoff and wants Tajiri. After that, HHH talks to the Bischoff picture, as the real Bischoff leaves.

3) Rhyno/Conway -> a couple of things kept me away from the match. 1 is Eugene...enough said. 2 is checking the time for American Idol (I watched Raw today).

3a) Bischoff makes Eugene vs Conway for 2 weeks. Man, last week we get 2 weeks for a world title match, and now we get 2 weeks for this.

3b) Go to Todd, who looks a lot like my cousin with the World Tag Champs. HBK joins in. I want to go back to the days when there were no interference for interviews.

4) Christian/GMS -> after AI, I have to say UGH. GMS really looks like an idiot doing that dance to the ring by himself. He needs a tag team partner. That Tomko guy, I think he should be better with the shirt on. JMO. Jericho comes in after the match and does a little bit of revenge.

5) (Green)HHH/Tajiri -> actually a nice match.

6) Kane/Hardy -> boring match, Lita steps into the ring and Kane finishes the job (good looking scared face in tact).

7) Lawler/Stacy -> good for one reason, but for wrestling...no reason. Lawler introduces Harley Race, great reaction. Orton comes in, spits in Harley's face. My original thought...Next week in Phoenix, Orton meets Superstar Billy Graham. Then again, maybe not. But, I was the idiot who said a week and a half ago about the Big Show destroying the car windows, and I said "All that he hasn't done was flip the car over." Two minutes later, he did. Oh yeah, Benjamin attacks. In for a month and he's got new music, I think.

8) Flair/Batista vs Benoit/Edge -> good match, but Flair has become too predictable. If you see one Flair match, you have seen them all. Chop, whoo, chop, get chopped a few, get punched, Flair Flop, get up, get whipped, backdrop, plead, poke in eye, chop, get the opponent down, go up to top, get thrown off, etc. You get the picture. A little surprised about the champs retaining. Of course (Green) HHH returns and attacks, HBK comes in and screws up, hitting Benoit, and bedlam ensues.

End.

I'm happy I did not get my opinions on last Thursday. I was in a bad mood, and that Smackdown was probably one of the worst in a long time.
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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by Jakegnosis
      Kane rules. He's been consistently excellent for a while now

    Not sure about that. Looks like he's been wrestling in slow motion for the past month or so. That super-delayed ringpost bump from about a month ago looked pretty bad.


I was thinking more about his acting than his wrestling. He comes across as more "real" than 90% of the roster. So many wrestlers just look like big guys spewing memorized lines, but Kane actually seems like a sadistic lunatic. I would go out on a limb and say that he's one of the best guys on the mic today. He may or may not be a one trick pony (i.e. he can only play a sadistic madman), but since the mask came off he's been nothing but great.

You do have a point about his wrestling being a little slow lately, but he's still the best big man in the company, and Kane has always been spotty when it comes to meshing with his opponent's styles. With some guys he can have great, great matches, but with certain people he just looks like shit.

He may also be dragging ass because he was recently in the main event scene and now he's feuding with Matt Hardy (Who's been half-assing lately). I think if both guys step it up, get into this feud and bring their A-game, they could both come out looking great and steal the show more than once.

I have a lot of faith in both of them as better-than-average wrestlers at worst and fantastic wrestlers given the right situation. If they really bring it in this feud, people will stand up and take notice. Admittedly, Hardy has it rougher because there are a ton of talented guys his size in the WWE right now, whereas Kane pretty much has the market cornered. However, Kane has been used and abused by being booked to lose most every feud recently, so he has a lot of ground to make up.

I expect great things, because I love both these guys and I think they both deserve worlds better than what they've been getting recently.



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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
Big Show has been busting his ass since he got moved to SD, so I'd put him above Kane. And, personally, I'd put A-Train above Kane, too.

Kane just does nothing for me. The last match he had that entertained me was against Angle on SD at least 2 years ago. I'll admit he's impressed me w/ his mic work & acting, but once he steps in the ring, I'm bored of him.



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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.41
I think Kane has been doing a very good job of keeping himself interesting. Every week on RAW when I first see him, I think to myself, maybe this will be the night where Kane finally does something big. His relative idleness recently hasn't done much, in my mind, to decrease his credibility. He's a guy who is kept strong just based on the strength of his gimmick, and one big win or beatdown angle and he's back in the ME scene. If the writers want him there, that is.

Not a huge fan of Kane's ringwork, but I don't have a problem with it either. I just don't particularly enjoy many bigger guys. His gimmick is what keeps me entertained. Same goes for his "big bro."

I personally can't wait until the day that he and Benoit cross paths. Kane in the ring looking down at Benoit (gotta be a huge height difference there), with Benoit looking up at him with that trademark "I don't care who you are, I am gonna tear your freakin arm off" look.



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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    I'd put A-Train above Kane


A-TRAIN?

Jesus.

To each his own, I guess. I agree that Big Show has been busting ass, and I really like him, too, but I still think Kane is a better wrestler.

And, yeah, Samoflange, that would be a great image and it could be a huge feud that would really establish Benoit as the new "toughest son of a bitch" in wrestling if he defeated him clean on PPV. That would be a great feud to sandwich between Michaels and the inevitable Summerslam confrontation with HHH.



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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
A-Train has higher impact offense, a nice moveset, mixes up his matches a bit, plus I think he's got a decent grasp on psychology. Kane just has the boring generic big man offense - sideslam, big boot, punches, chokeslam. Top rope clothesline is pretty crappy, too.



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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.91
Again, to each his own.

I think Kane's offense looks much more vicious, and his psychology is much better. Also, I fail to see A-Train's nice moveset. He has a generic powerbomb, some restholds and the standard big man fare. Kane mixes it up with a backbreaker, backdrop, press slam and that choke toss thing that looks really nasty.



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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Jakegnosis
    Again, to each his own.

    I think Kane's offense looks much more vicious, and his psychology is much better. Also, I fail to see A-Train's nice moveset. He has a generic powerbomb, some restholds and the standard big man fare. Kane mixes it up with a backbreaker, backdrop, press slam and that choke toss thing that looks really nasty.


Seems like A-Train's one of the few Big Guys to NOT use a chokeslam. He introduces new moves fairly frequently, like his double underhook delayed gutbuster. The Trainwreck is a pretty nice move. He's also, I think, quite a bit more agile than Kane is.

I'm with Spiff on this one. But I also like A-Train because he yells a lot and is furry.

--K

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