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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.14
As someone who remembers the first Raw, this was a fun night. Besides, no Rock, the Manhattan Center fans felt like they got screwed and not a lot of matches, the show was ok. Austin/Vince is always gold. The women's match was good especially Asuka eliminating people at the end. Elias, Finn and Braun got super over moments. We also got Alpha Club Jericho. Mix is our new IC champ.

The bad was Taker' s possible retirement promo, Bray/Hardy and a lot of here is so and so for two seconds. This should have been a commerical free episode. I do think having it at two locations was a bad idea.

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Since: 10.12.01
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.69
Hey, we're doing Raw threads again?

This was... I don't know. About as disappointing as I figured it would be going in, I guess.

Quite a wasted opportunity to have what was probably their largest audience of casual and lapsed fans this year and do nothing with it. I mean, the cameos were fun, but do at least one big surprise angle for Mania or the Rumble or something.

How long did it take you to figure out who that guy was who turned out to be MVP?

Why did X-Pac do that to his hair?

Kudos to the fan dressed like Bobby Heenan dressed like a woman.

Someone on the Observer board said that ticket prices at the Manhattan Center were $250, $400, and $800 - and higher if you bought on the secondary market. Imagine paying $800 for that.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.26
Miz beating Reigns allows Roman to contend for the Universal title, but it's the same old same old. He's had eight IC titles since 2012. Time to let new blood fight for the title.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.19
I just kept thinking how OLD everyone looked. HBK and X-pac were probably the worst, but man ... folks is getting up there.

Still a fun show, though. Good seeing all the old faces and the moments that made Raw.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
[quote KJames199
Quite a wasted opportunity to have what was probably their largest audience of casual and lapsed fans this year and do nothing with it. I mean, the cameos were fun, but do at least one big surprise angle for Mania or the Rumble or something.



This is exactly what I thought. When they blew through the Stone Cold appearance, Undertaker appearance and the Roman/Miz match in the first hour and a half I thought MAYBE they were saving some angle for the end of the show. But I should've guessed they were just going to end with DX and Brock.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.44
WWE anniversary shows are always comfortably trash and this was no different. We got the usual multiple scenes built around squeezing in as many people as possible because they were all booked before they had a plan on how they were going to use it, we got current guys getting humiliated by guys back for one night, we got things that actually were pretty bad being rewritten into great achievements. That they had to also serve many different masters made it even more of a mess: the women's match had to go long because to compensate for them not really doing anything significant with any other women on the show, the end segment had to be used to get over the title match which left two dozen people making a cameo by standing around blankly, they had 100 people booked but significant time was spent on Elias singing to Jimmy Fallon because viral content??

This was a solid hate watch. A lot of times Three Hour RAW is just kind of boring, but there's was a lot here to passionately dislike and I appreciate them bringing out that feeling in me. It gave me some hope the Royal Rumble may be equally enjoyable terrible, instead of uninteresting because there's no way they have the depth to make two royal rumbles interesting.

I was most upset about the New Day & the Usos just hanging out next to each other outside the ring.

The fact that the Manhattan Center super fans got ripped off because WWE had no idea how to handle shooting from two different shows was a nice added touch. HHH having to morph from DX HHH to NXT HHH mid promo, sucking up to the angry fans to make sure they didn't turn on their segment was fun. Scott Hall looking 80 years old was not fun.

I have not been faithfully watching RAW, and so I'm totally lost trying to figure out if Balor turned heel or Anderson & Gallows turned face or if they're just hanging out with no explanation beyond "Japan!". My hunch is it's the last option but maybe I'm missing something.

Likewise, did Fox become a member of Absolution suddenly with Paige being out? That pre-match introduction said Yes. I would like to say adding her dilutes the concept of Absolution but I'm unsure if Absolution had a concept in the first place.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.87
The Elias/Jericho/Cena confrontation was the highlight of the show for me.

Odd no Mick Foley.

My goodness, Trish Stratus looked like she hasn't aged a day.

Seems like it hasn't been that long since Miz & Maryse made their baby announcement and already she looks like she is about to pop.

Yeah, it looked like the crowd at the Manhattan Center got ripped off.




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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
Miz, FLair and Jeff Hardy all made appearances at the Manhatten Center, too. There was this, tho:
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After watching the opening montage and seeing the IcoPro sign hanging at MC back then, I was thinking to myself:
It'd be awesome if someone had an IcoPro poster!" Then, some fan had an ICOPRO WIFE BEATER! Hell yeah.

The Wyatt/Hardy match sucked. Does that mean the feud is over?

I couldn't tell if Brock was telling the refs he was hurt or not after the slam onto the announce table, but figured no as no one looked to concerned.

Austin/McMahon was by the numbers, and STILL fun as hell.

Balor/DX was ok.

I honestly thought when they cut off Hall's entrance that they would come back from commercial at Barclay's. Then we got a friggin match!?!?!

Did both of the Revival piss before they came out and forget to shake it off?

JR looked legit pissed when Lawler said puppies.

Speaking of JR, that was the lamest attempt to put SLOBBERKNOCKER into a sentence.

I honestly took Taker's speech as he was done. He looked gassed climbing the steps into the ring.

I can't believe neither Bubba nor Devon stepped on those glasses in the ring. DAMMIT. Devon and Rhyno embracing was extra cool, tho.

No Shamrock or Blackman, tho. C'mon, Vince. Give the people what they want!

There was always that one little chance that Living Color might have came on the sound system, tho..........
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.07
I'm on the thecubsfan schedule of not watching RAW much but I made the effort last night....and it seems funny typing something like "made the effort," but it feels like it's been YEARS that just watching this show has felt more like a chore than something to enjoy.

What I got was that Michael Strahan would be competing for the IC strap at WrestleMania...but hopefully my radar is just way out of tune. I DID totally expect the Miz win coming but that was because I thought Roman Reigns was supposed to have been suspended by now (which probably also demonstrates how out of touch I probably am with what's going on out there).

Do Terri and Dustin still talk or nah? Where the heck was Lita? Are they saving Molly Holly as a Rumble surprise and if so, WHY?

I like how they dressed the refs at the Manhattan Center. Shoot, I liked the graphics package too (could have done without the hashtag, if you wanted to go fully old school - hell, take off the WWE bug to get REALLY old school)

I can't see myself live tweeting another episode soon, which will surely disappoint the three people who presumably followed me for wrestling tweets and will end up with Timberwolves double double announcements



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.19
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    I was most upset about the New Day & the Usos just hanging out next to each other outside the ring.


Haven't they had the Great Exchange of Respect, though? So I don't think it's as out of character as you imply.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
My biggest problem with the show was I wasn’t sure if I could just turn it off and walk away or not so I ended up watching the whole thing. Turns out I could have. I didn’t hate this show, but it certainly could have been handled better. Not having at least one good match at the Manhattan Center feels like a waste. This is how it goes when you have no plan.


I’ve seen a lot of these guys recently doing various appearances at NEW shows. I didn’t see Foley though. Did I miss him or has he become that problematic? And no Vickie at the GM Appearance. Good for her.

This just proved once again that WWE just doesn’t know how to do one of the easiest things and that’s showcase it’s Legends.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.19
Don't recall where I read it, but Foley explained that he turned down an invitation to appear, explaining that he thought it was too soon after being fired for his character to return in a happy manner for an anniversary celebration. He said he feels Mick Foley should be off WWE TV for at least a year.
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Since: 10.12.01
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.69
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    And no Vickie at the GM Appearance. Good for her.
My wife doesn't care about wrestling but she was SO MAD that Vickie wasn't there. I was more upset about the Anonymous Raw General Manager computer being snubbed.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.03
    Originally posted by CRZ
    I can't see myself live tweeting another episode soon, which will surely disappoint the three people who presumably followed me for wrestling tweets and will end up with Timberwolves double double announcements


I only follow you to find out what flavor yogurt you are eating.

They are being very cagey about Paige's injury, only saying she won't be able to compete in the Rumble. Are we taking a wait and see approach? Or is she just sticking around to prop up Absolution?



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Since: 11.1.02
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.53
Needed more Mike Adamle.

Decent show. Manhattan Center part was definitely lacking. Seemed like a weird choice for the first Hardy-Wyatt match. Here, Matt's losing in a throwaway five minute match with no promotion.

Weird, I forgot that DX driving a tank to WCW was when the Monday night war started now. Also, do we have to have a DX reunion every anniversary show?

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Since: 11.5.03
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.87
    Originally posted by andy1278
    Also, do we have to have a DX reunion every anniversary show?



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