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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
    Was Cesaro's promo a "dud" solely because he said 4 when he meant 3?

Speaking only for myself, it wasn't that he used the wrong number, it's that he tried to recover with "well, the ring has 4 sides" which was groan-inducing. It's kinda like re-doing a botched spot. Just let it go.

To see Ryback nail a lengthy, highly-scripted promo (content aside), and then to see Cesaro flub a brief ad-lib was disheartening. Nothing against The Big Guy, just disappointed for Cesaro.


    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Yo Roman. It's over, pal.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    I can't even.

Sorry, Justin, I'm leaving you behind on the rebuilt Titanic. My feeling is that Bryan is back to generate excitement and uncertainty, but you gotta think with the injury potentially limiting his shelf life, and the fact that Roman isn't leaving to promote movies 3 months after WM that plans ain't budging. But...

    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    If that's still going to be the clearly-stuttering Reigns instead of Bryan, announcing the latter's participation in the Rumble last night was them essentially putting a gun to the head of their WrestleMania build-up.

Bringing Bryan back for the Rumble is somewhat confusing, given the potential fan reactions (oh shit, Philly!). I wonder if WWE is really that unsure and insecure about their plans. Hey, it worked - I am excited and uncertain!



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
Raw is Callbacks with Fakeouts. Cesaro looked to detonate his own pipe bomb. Bryan came to give a heart-felt goodbye on the night when the last guy to give a heart-felt goodbye is hosting. Cesaro didn't Fakeout as much as flame out, and Bryan was brilliant, if predictable. It's a small quibble, but if they wanted to go for the full fakeout, they should've started the show with his announcement.

In the current subscriber numbers world, announcing Bryan for the Rumble is infinitely smarter than keeping it a secret until the event. But it becomes a high stakes game for Bryan where if the numbers increase for the Rumble, it can be attributed to his announcement and if they hold or decline that could also be attributed to him. I think they'll increase, but what do I know?

Justin said it best a few months ago: The Ascension has been called up to TNA. Their look screams TNA and is more ridiculous than cool. I'm also the wrong target audience because I've never been a fan.

Seriously, poor Cesaro.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.09
I don't see the return of the Goat having any impact on the Rise of Roman. Granted, Bryan is as over as he was before the injury, but do the WWE really want to rush to put him back in the #1 spot before getting a feel if he's going to be back for the long haul?

The Ascension debut felt really awkward, standing in the ring post-match, getting no reaction at all.

The Authority is back, which leads me to believe we are in for not only a 20 minute promo, but one with the entire roster standing on the entrance ramp. If you're going to beat a dead horse, you might as well go for the gusto.









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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.40
    Originally posted by Packman V2
    I don't see the return of the Goat having any impact on the Rise of Roman. Granted, Bryan is as over as he was before the injury, but do the WWE really want to rush to put him back in the #1 spot before getting a feel if he's going to be back for the long haul?


It's not about what WWE wants to booking-wise. It's about them being insane if they think they can book Bryan to get eliminated in the Rumble match and not have the Philly crowd shit subsequently all over the outcome. Especially if it's Reigns winning.

Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but they have to be smart enough to see that whatever it is they want to do is just going to run into the same roadblocks as last year if Bryan is in the mix. So it follows that, if they're willing to put Bryan in the Rumble after his not winning it last year derailed their entire WrestleMania card, they must have something big for him in mind. He's either winning, or he's going to have to be part of something earth-shattering to avoid his elimination turning the crowd completely against their chosen winner.

(edited by Amos Cochran on 30.12.14 1037)
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.26
Could they consciously be making this direction with Reigns in order to replicate what happened with the Rock?





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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.30
We never got the Five Second Pose. Bullshit.

There's no way a seasoned vet like either E or C would let a newbie like Rollins act that way in front of them, especially if they have GM power. How come they didn't pull a: "oh yeah, well thinkg about what you just said after you face, tonight - THEDEMONKANE!"

Oh, wait. That's what we're back to with The HHH's back.

I don't expect DB to be wrasslin' before the RR, but just think of the possibilities of him tagging with either Reigns or Dolph, or, dare I say it, THE BIG GUY?
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.59
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    Some of ya'll just need to stop watching because it's clear nothing they do will make you happy.
You're probably going to get a lot of anger for this, but honestly, "A lot of y'all like me, and a lot of y'all just need to stop waching because it's clear this company has no interest in doing anything to make y'all happy" is the not-so-subtle subtext of every John Cena promo of the last, say, five years. As it turns out, a lot of us all have chosen to not pay for/stop paying for The Network. The audience is listening!

    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Edge now has to live with the fact that he is so helpless that he caused the return of The Authority.
Christian also has to live with that fact. Luckily for him, he won't have to live with at as long as Edge does. What with his fatal condition and all.

    Originally posted by John Cena, in his draft of the final scene of Monday Night Raw for 12/29/14

    JOHN CENA
    (whispers something)


    SETH ROLLINS
    What's that, John? I didn't hear you! Say it again!


    NOBLE exits the ring with a mic while ROLLINS gloats. He holds it to CENA's face. Clearly broken, CENA gulps. He might as well be gulping down his pride.

    JOHN CENA
    I said...I'm just as glad as everybody else that Daniel Bryan is back! I love him too, I love him just as much all y'all! Sami Zayn!


    The WWE UNIVERSE goes insane, cheering JOHN CENA as loudly as they cheered DANIEL BRYAN three segments earlier. Maybe even more loudly, their love of BRYAN buoyed by their respect and admiration for all of the things that CENA does and their realization that he, too, loves the things that they love.



Cena probably fought hard for that version, but you can't win 'em all. I have a lot of thoughts on that ending, I guess. First and foremost being, at least we all know we can skip the opening 25-35 minutes of next week's show. Missed you, HHH!

I'm really torn on Rollins' "I'm gonna kill him anyway!", because it was kind of awesome and he delivered it perfectly, but it's always pretty weird when a wrestler openly admits he was planning to legit murder someone on TV in a non-match situation where there's presumably legal wording to protect everyone. Like, Edge should probably show up next week with a gun and shoot Rollins, right? Rollins can teleport out of the way of the bullet/block it with the briefcase/reveal his vest is actually bulletproof or whatever, but Edge really should do something about that guy and his friends who were actually planning to kill him on live television last night. Eh, I dunno, I like it, Rollins as a Dirty Harry 2014 villain worked. Guy's in a zone right now.

Ways I would have suggested improving that last segment:

1) Cena, instead of taking five minutes to come save Edge's life, just never bothers to come out at all, because that's what he normally does. Rollins is embarrassed when he realizes his tactical error, has to let Edge go.

2) Cena comes out, but Rollins threatens Christian first. (This version requires an alternate scene in the back where Christian apologizes for that time he tried to battle rap Cena, and Cena says "Honestly, I don't even remember feuding with you. Are you Ken Kennedy? Did I get you fired or was that Randy?") Christian, while being held down by Show, screams "Don't do it, John! I'm already dead! It's not worth it!" and Rollins lets him go out of pity.

3) Rollins, as he did, threatens the sanctity of marriage and the lives of the future children Cena may have. Cena runs in and kills Edge himself.

4) They cut to The Vigilante Sting, sitting home and watching this all unfold, and he's like "Oh shit!" and runs to the arena, which explains why that segment went on for so long.

5) Everything happens like it did on TV, with Cena and Rollins stalling forever. Randy Orton returns through the crowd and hits an RKO out of nowhere on Rollins and Dolph Ziggler is with him and hits a Zig-Zag on Big Show and Cena and Daniel Bryan run into the ring to take out Noble and Mercury and Christian makes sure Edge is OK and everybody marks out huge and it's awesome and the show and year end on an improbable high-note with Orton and Ziggler and Bryan and Cena doing a YES! chant in the ring and the Authority has to come up with some other plan some other time.

Some other thoughts:

Of all the wasted, big money Brock Lesnar appearances, that one has to go to the top right above "Brock Lesnar loses clean to HHH at Wrestlemania a year before he breaks The Streak". I dunno, you tell me: use Brock at Hell In a Cell to give a possible career-making, toe-to-toe shot to a Sheamus/Cesaro/Ryback type, or use Brock at a random Raw to almost take an AA and then stare at Seth Rollins because nobody remembered to tell him if he's supposed to be mad at Rollins or not care about him?

Ryback's promo was actually pretty good. THE BIG GUY delivered, from a style standpoint, and did a great job keeping his cool, riding out the WHAT? chants and staying on point. I'm also never going to downgrade anybody for paying attention to continuity, in this case letting us know that every version we've seen of him on TV is the same guy, not alternate universe versions of Ryan Reeves who were there to set up some kind of Crisis On Infinite WWE Universes story. That said, they did a pretty terrible job connecting The Secret of Ryback promo with the "Oh, yeah, and I'm fighting Rusev but don't really care about America" sell.

Easiest way to salvage The Ascension: Have the Demolition/LOD thing be a part of a larger gimmick where they're just two dudes who love the '80s and maybe still think the '80s are going on a little, and this pisses off Xavier Woods, who loves the '90s more and we get an '80s Kids vs. '90s Kids feud between The Ascension and The New Day.

Cesaro had no chance on the night. The announcing team, surely repeating what Vince was yelling at them, pouncing all over "four ropes" for the next five minutes proved that. Vince was looking for a way to bury the guy on camera - sending him out there against a returning Barrett, a guy who exactly the same people who love Cesaro also love and instantly dividing the crowd and then only booking the match for a three minute clean loss for Cesaro proves that - and that one, meaningless flub will be his justification. You want to know what's wrong with the company, there it is in a microcosm: segments booked solely to try to tell audiences why they are wrong.

What to do with Ziggler now that his Hero of WWE role is officially meaningless? I've been pushing for a Cena/Sting angle with Sting as the Ghost of John Cena's Future, but I'd be cool with Ziggler taking up the Sting mantle at the foot of the Vigilante Sting himself. DARK ZIGGLER.

So, yeah, here we go again: Bryan wins the Rumble to set-up Bryan/Lesnar or we riot.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.05
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    So are we to take it that they're switching back to Bryan for this year? Because please God let this be true.

    Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but they have to be smart enough to see that whatever it is they want to do is just going to run into the same roadblocks as last year if Bryan is in the mix. So it follows that, if they're willing to put Bryan in the Rumble after his not winning it last year derailed their entire WrestleMania card, they must have something big for him in mind. He's either winning, or he's going to have to be part of something earth-shattering to avoid his elimination turning the crowd completely against their chosen winner.


I can't be sure. At all. But I'm just happy because the game is afoot again, and it means we're at least going to get something. They might be dumb, but they're not dumb enough to be blindsided again. I figure we get one of two compromises:

Lesnar is leaving and Rollins is getting a massive push, so they'll want to put all their Wrestlemania equity into Rollins and de-emphasize Lesnar. Therefore, Rollins wins the title from Cena or Lesnar after the match at the Rumble, and ...

A) Bryan wins the Rumble and challenges Rollins for the title as both a classic match and the accidental continuation of the Authority/Bryan/stripped title storyline, while Reigns beats Lesnar to get his hand raised over Brock with significantly less pressure and resentment.

B) Lesnar is enraged and eliminates Bryan from the Rumble, setting up Reigns/Rollins (presumably not since they wouldn't give the WM main event as a 10:00 Raw match) or the Shield threeway for the title, with the Bryan/Lesnar dream match underneath.

I prefer A, since Bryan not winning the Rumble is now going to deflate the crowd no matter what. But both are better than the "entire Wrestlemania poster is superimposed on Reigns' face" scenario we've been staring at for a while.

    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    They cut to The Vigilante Sting, sitting home and watching this all unfold, and he's like "Oh shit!" and runs to the arena, which explains why that segment went on for so long.

    First and foremost being, at least we all know we can skip the opening 25-35 minutes of next week's show. Missed you, HHH!


SPOILERS for next week's show: it begins with a 20 minute Authority celebration announcing a 20 minute Authority celebration for the main event, which Randy Orton interrupts when he comes out of a present or a cake with no absence of malice.

Which will finally tie up the comedy spot from Survivor Series and TLC where Orton showed up five minutes after Sting and Reigns' respective run-ins, making crazy faces and announcing "I'm here to help!" and then looked around and shrugged and got back into his bus and backed out of the arena.

(edited by JustinShapiro on 30.12.14 1354)
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    Cesaro had no chance on the night. The announcing team, surely repeating what Vince was yelling at them, pouncing all over "four ropes" for the next five minutes proved that. Vince was looking for a way to bury the guy on camera - sending him out there against a returning Barrett, a guy who exactly the same people who love Cesaro also love and instantly dividing the crowd and then only booking the match for a three minute clean loss for Cesaro proves that - and that one, meaningless flub will be his justification. You want to know what's wrong with the company, there it is in a microcosm: segments booked solely to try to tell audiences why they are wrong.


This is totally correct, and totally depressing as a wrestling fan.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    So it follows that, if they're willing to put Bryan in the Rumble after his not winning it last year derailed their entire WrestleMania card, they must have something big for him in mind. He's either winning, or he's going to have to be part of something earth-shattering to avoid his elimination turning the crowd completely against their chosen winner.


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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.18
People I would like to like in WWE because of their raw talent and charisma:

Dolph Ziggler
John Cena (yes, really)
Cesaro
Wade Barrett
Bray Wyatt
Dean Ambrose
Roman Reigns
Seth Rollins
Daniel Bryan
Zack Ryder (I realize that I am probably his last fan)
Luke Harper
The Usos
Bo Dallas (because of NXT)
Goldust
Stardust
Paige
Emma
Tyson Kidd

People I actually like in WWE due to them having good/interesting things to do:

Dolph Ziggler
Wade Barrett?
Daniel Bryan?

Good riddance, 2014. You were promising for a couple moments there, but in the end you were not the follow-up to 2013 that we had hoped for. Better luck to 2015.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
      Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      So it follows that, if they're willing to put Bryan in the Rumble after his not winning it last year derailed their entire WrestleMania card, they must have something big for him in mind. He's either winning, or he's going to have to be part of something earth-shattering to avoid his elimination turning the crowd completely against their chosen winner.


    Oh, hi. I didn't see you standing there...




I believe I had that.

(edited by CRZ on 30.12.14 1522)


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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.37
Can one of the mods just delete my other thread? I was apparently writing it just as this one was getting posted, so I might as well just move my thoughts over here and get rid of the other.
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So a mixed bag of good news and bad news ...

Good News: Daniel Bryan will be returning, and in time for the Rumble! Bad News Barrett also makes his return! And the Ascension make their debut on RAW.

Bad News: Vince can't stand having decent programming or a show that isn't constantly revolving around one of his immediate family members, so hey, guess what, the Authority's back. And apparently Cena doesn't have to sign anything, just saying "I bring back the Authority" is enough to magically put them back into power. FUCK.

I've actually been enjoying WWE programming the last month or so; the show was considerably improved without that single, overarching storyline of the Authority vs Everyone taking up half the show with HHH and Steph promos. Yet Vince can't seem to abide a good thing, so it seems we're right back to where we were right before Survivor Series.

Honestly, the show was going quite well until the booking team threw up their hands and said 'We have no idea what to do next, so let's just reset the last month or so like it never happened.' Now I'm once again questioning whether it's really worth continuing to watch this garbage, when all they can do is keep regurgitating the same fucking storyline they've been pushing since the early Oughts. Hell, counting Vince vs Austin, since the mid-90s. The only thing I'm holding out hope for is Daniel Bryan's return, but how rusty is he going to be after more than half a year off the roster? And how likely is it he'll re-injure himself the next time he tries that running knee?
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.58
    Originally posted by El Nastio
    Could they consciously be making this direction with Reigns in order to replicate what happened with the Rock?


I think this might be a realization that Reigns needs some more time in the oven. Even when John Cena looked like he was going to be the next big thing, they gave him an extended run with a secondary title to give him some manner of championship experience.

At this point, I'm actually wondering if maybe they should just pull the plug on that planned Cena/Rusev feud and maybe let Roman be the American hero. That kind of thing can only help him and give him a natural progression towards the main event. It's a far better option than strapping a rocket on his back and giving him the pressure of main eventing Wrestlemania.




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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.42
    Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
    'We have no idea what to do next, so let's just reset the last month or so like it never happened.'


The justification for the Authority returning turns out to be the declining ratings over the last couple months and particularly the last few weeks. Their theory is the ratings went down with HHH & Stephanie off the show (or the HHH/Stephanie against the faces dynamic off the show) and so they had to rush them back. Judging from recent threads, I think you can make a pretty decent counter point that the ratings went down because the shows were both awful and directionless. The Authority does give them a direction, a very well worn one, but another solution would've been writing good TV shows.

The reality of the ratings is they go down during boring portions of the calendar and go up during exciting portions, and the exciting portion was just about to start with or without the Authority. Their return just happened to coincide at the start of a hot period. This is an old school Hogan move, actually.

(Though, maybe Bryan will get credit too.)

They were always going to get to this point, and would've got to this point sometime soon since the plan was to get to HHH/Sting, but maybe not this quick.



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.37
I suppose we were bound to have the Authority returning soon, so that they can start setting up HHH/Sting. I'm just so damn sick of starting off every show with a 30-minute HHH promo (and if we're really lucky, a HHH promo will be the 'main event', too!), and honestly, the thought of it going back to Same Old Shit on Friday will probably make me skip Smackdown! I'm definitely gonna give a pass to the start of RAW next week; I may watch the last hour, if only because I want to see the Ambulance Match.

Orton charging in to save the day with an RKO OUT OF NOWHERE would have been a much better ending and at least ended 2014 on a high note, that last segment really was the turd in the punch bowl. Especially after Bryan had me almost in tears with the "Is my career over? ... NO!" I guess this way Bryan gets a chance at killing the Authority angle, if they're ever willing to get rid of it. Though I have a feeling that HHH/Sting will have some kind of 'control of WWE' stipulation hanging over it.

Also, was I the only one who thought Cesaro's promo was better than Ryback's? It was a lot more to the point, even if he blew a line, while Ryback's just seemed to go on and on and on. This would've been better served split into vignettes, as one of the posters above suggested.

The one thing I can say is that at least with Bryan's return, the Rumble gets some intrigue. I mean, the dude is still the most over motherfucker they've had since the Rock or Austin. Until he announced he would be in the Rumble, Reigns was pretty much the obvious winner because of how he's being pushed ... and I still think that they rigged his Slammy, but maybe not, he honestly does get a pretty solid pop, just not Bryan-level. If Orton comes back for the Rumble they'll probably be the Big Three, but Orton might be pulling singles duty that night.

It would be kinda awesome to have Orton be the 'surprise' for the Rumble match, especially if he hits three or four RKOSOUTTANOWHERE. Not that an RKO is all that useful in a Rumble, unless it's someone you're able to manhandle out of the ring. There's also the question of who the Authority's agent will be in the Rumble ... probably Show, since it usually takes multiple people to get him over the top. And I'm sure Kofi will do Kofi things and Cesaro will probably pull some ridiculous feat of strength that Creative will ignore.

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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
So did Edge bring back Tony Chimel just to do his intro? The Rated R Superstar Edge! Don't know if it was just my TV but Christian's lips were super white compared to his spray-on-tan face.
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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.27
I liked the Ryback thing. It gave depth to the guy, confronted the multiple times he'd been there and back, and he sounded genuine and nonscripted as opposed to his heel days. The crowd seemed to eat it up to. I also feel that it seems like a LOT to do for a guy who's supposed to be fodder for Rusev...

What is Christian's illness, specifically? I guess I'm missing something, since googling Christian illness yielded nothing.

Dug the Cesaro thing, too. Even if he flubbed at the end, he's still a damned talented performer. Too bad Barrett was who he was facing, because Barrett will get a bigger reaction between the two.

The Authority was always coming back, and Cena just solidified his legacy as the biggest sweetheart ever by saving the guy he probably had the most severe feud with ever. It's not necessarily on par with, but akin to Evander Holyfield coming out and saving Mike Tyson from something.



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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.37
    Originally posted by Lexus
    What is Christian's illness, specifically? I guess I'm missing something, since googling Christian illness yielded nothing.


It's just a running joke. Christian retired because of complications from concussions and numerous other injuries.
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.16
Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by InVerse
      Originally posted by Lexus
      What is Christian's illness, specifically? I guess I'm missing something, since googling Christian illness yielded nothing.


    It's just a running joke. Christian retired because of complications from concussions and numerous other injuries.
Then at the end of the show where his retirement was sorta announced, he was hit in the stomach with a briefcase, rolled out of the ring, then fell off of a cliff to his death, never to be seen or heard from again.



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