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steven87gill
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.31
    Originally posted by Vaderblade

    For weeks people have been suggesting that they would go with a three way dance for the titles and for weeks I have been thinking that the WWE wouldn't go in that direction.

    I loved the #OCCUPYRAW segment, but after watching the rest of RAW, my spider senses started tingling.

    Orton is STILL prominently carrying two belts everywhere.

    Batista's contract is rumored to have a guaranteed title win clause. (@Wrestlemania?)

    Bryan has to win the match or the Superdome riot makes the Dome worse off than after Katrina.

    Could we see some stupid split of the titles?

    Bryan has the Yeslock on, Batista puts on a single leg crab, Orton taps?

    Am I insane, or would they do something like that? Who gets which belt…



Oh god no... You've planted the seed of this idea in my head & now it won't go away.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.84
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    I heard it, but it felt like bait to gauge audience reaction to his participation. That was a quick turnaround from "I'm the first to sign up, Hulk" to "sorry, dude, I got a date already."


I thought it was quick, too. I took it as "I'm John Cena and I'm going to bless this idea by deeming it worthy of my participation ... if only I didn't really want to fight this other guy instead."
used2bcool
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.66
    Originally posted by Me
    Christian rolls out to escape but Sheamus is A-CLUBBERING. That move has a new name - the Ten Rings of the Bow, maybe?


No, I was completely off on that. It's called the Beats of the Bodhran, where a Bodhran is an Irish frame drum.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.83
They are going to have to create doubt in the HHH match somehow, I'm curious to see how they do it.

Part of me thinks Bryan losing that match now would make for great television, cause a riot and break the internet. They can't do that without killing the title match dead, but it would be a moment.

I felt differently than most of you about the #yesmovement segment, but the end result was surprising. Hunter and Steph really sold the crap out of it.

(edited by BigDaddyLoco on 11.3.14 1036)
TheGreatWhiteBob
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#25 Posted on
And now I'm suddenly looking forward to WrestleMania again. If anything, last night proved they know exactly what the fans want to see, and every once in a while, whether they want to or not, they'll give them just that. That fills me with at least a modicum of hope going forward.

There's no way Bryan doesn't make it to the main event at Mania. Whether or not he beats HHH, who knows... maybe HHH cheats to win but Hogan fights for Bryan's right to be in the main event and puts him in there anyway; maybe HHH gets purposely disqualified and destroys Bryan with the sledgehammer to try and take him out before Bryan returns at the last minute to enter the match, but I just can't see them sending Batista and Orton out there to die without Bryan. I think the majority of the crowd would literally walk out on the match if that were to happen.



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Hokienautic
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.84
    Originally posted by TheGreatWhiteBob
    There's no way Bryan doesn't make it to the main event at Mania. Whether or not he beats HHH, who knows... maybe HHH cheats to win but Hogan fights for Bryan's right to be in the main event and puts him in there anyway; maybe HHH gets purposely disqualified and destroys Bryan with the sledgehammer to try and take him out before Bryan returns at the last minute to enter the match, but I just can't see them sending Batista and Orton out there to die without Bryan. I think the majority of the crowd would literally walk out on the match if that were to happen.


As much as they've trolled the Daniel Bryan fanbase with this storyline, that's exactly what I expect to see happen -- (1) Either Bryan pins HHH and gets beat down hard after, or HHH gets DQ'd then goes to town with the sledgehammer. (2) The match starts with a smirking HHH ordering the referee to ring the bell with only Orton and Batista in the ring. (3) Just as they lock up, Daniel Bryan's music hits and he comes limping to the ring, bandaged up. (4) Daniel Bryan wins.

It wouldn't surprise me if Hogan has some role in a clusterfuck of an ending, but I would guess it'd be more of intercepting interlopers attempting to stop the win than actually causing the win.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.51
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    They are going to have to create doubt in the HHH match somehow, I'm curious to see how they do it.

    Part of me thinks Bryan losing that match now would make for great television, cause a riot and break the internet. They can't do that without killing the title match dead, but it would be a moment.

    I felt differently than most of you about the #yesmovement segment, but the end result was surprising. Hunter and Steph really sold the crap out of it.

    (edited by BigDaddyLoco on 11.3.14 1036)


The title match? Depending on where this match is in the card, Wrestlemania is dead. It would be worse than the ending of Booker T/HHH or Lawler/Cole. I can't imaging people not the fans not shitting all over everything after as well as turning the ring into a garbage dump when the title match happens.

I like Hokienautic's idea, but it needs a Hogan punching HHH out. I am kinda hoping Bryan beats the shit out of HHH, so he can't interfere.



The Wee Baby Sheamus.Twitter: @realjoecarfley its a bit more toned down there. A bit.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.66
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I felt differently than most of you about the #yesmovement segment, but the end result was surprising. Hunter and Steph really sold the crap out of it.



I think beneath the alleged egomaniac asshat that we all love to hate, Triple H is a fantastic performer. He always has been, especially when he turns up the douchiness as a holier-than-thou heel. The problem with the last few weeks was that he wasn't going full-heel. Stephanie has really stepped up her game, which is made more apparent by my watching a cringe-worthy segment from 1998 on the network just a few minutes prior to the starting of Raw.
Dr Unlikely
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.54
I just searched both pages of this thread for "Lawler's Shirt" and didn't get anything, so you all need to get your priorities in order.

Hated the pre-commercial part of Bryan's Dork Army coming to the ring, when it really looked pathetic and had the feel of one of the company's usual doomed attempts to co-opt something they didn't personally create and accidentally ruin it, but it ended up fine, mostly for that one older guy just casually leaning on the ropes next to Bryan the whole time. I want him to stick around as the Leader of the #YesMovement. Not exactly a manager, but the guy Bryan has to consult. I was, however, really, really, really hoping they'd troll everybody one last time by having Bryan say that the one OTHER demand he had was to be put into the Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal instead of asking for a spot in the title match.

I don't even know what Christan/Sheamus is supposed to be as a feud - like, can they actually keep this going to Wrestlemania? But I a little bit love it because of how great the matches are and how horribly battered both of them seem to be getting each week, with Sheamus selling it as "THIS IS THE BEST!" and Christian selling it as being nearly on the verge of tears. Sheamus just keeps getting bruises and cuts and Christian, obviously, looks like he's getting killed out there every time. I'm guessing this is a slow burn to get a ONE MORE MATCH reference in at some point, or maybe Christian admits that these matches really ARE killing him but he has to keep fighting Sheamus so he can take care of those gimmicks they keep sending in the mail called medical bills.

Anyway, ideal Christian/Sheamus XXX finish is no matter who wins, they've beaten each other so badly that Sheamus is now completely yellow and Christian is now completely white.

Also, it'd be cool if the Wyatts, like, cut off Cena's face or something to ramp that feud past Jokey Cena territory ASAP.

XXX Predictions: Rusev wins the Andre The Giant 800 Pounds Slam Me, Brother Memorial Tournament and immediately destroys the trophy. Also, sticking with my recent prediction that Bryan beats HHH but Batista wins (possibly with HHH or Flair help?) to make Batista officially Double Super Heel because they just can't help themselves trying to get one more PPV main event out of the Bryan angle.
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.45
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    I just searched both pages of this thread for "Lawler's Shirt" and didn't get anything, so you all need to get your priorities in order.


Lawler's Shirt blew my mind. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. From a far distance, I thought he was wearing a gold suit, then when I saw the closeup, I didn't know what anything was anymore.
CRZ
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.09
To give you a sense of where my head's at, as soon as I saw LL Cool J promote "NCIS: LA" (which, by the way, they have no business showing all that torture at 6:55PM when my nonexistent children are watching), I immediately blew most of the back half of the show creating this animated GIF of his appearance hyping "Rollerball" on Smackdown back in 2002:



See the entire angle:



Read my recap: http://slashwrestling.com/smackdown/020131.html
AND our lack of reaction: http://the-w.com/​​​​smackdown (neat, our first thread ever titled "Smackdown!")

(edited by CRZ on 11.3.14 1452)

Tenken347
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.20
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    Anyway, ideal Christian/Sheamus XXX finish is no matter who wins, they've beaten each other so badly that Sheamus is now completely yellow and Christian is now completely white.


Agreed. While I'd love to see Christian presented as an actual threat to someone at some point somewhere, these two guys have been absolutely killing each other in a variety of innovative ways, somehow without duplicating their spots from each match. I've been loving these matches, if not the feud per se.
Matt Tracker
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
    Originally posted by Tenken347
      Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
      Anyway, ideal Christian/Sheamus XXX finish is no matter who wins, they've beaten each other so badly that Sheamus is now completely yellow and Christian is now completely white.


    Agreed. While I'd love to see Christian presented as an actual threat to someone at some point somewhere, these two guys have been absolutely killing each other in a variety of innovative ways, somehow without duplicating their spots from each match. I've been loving these matches, if not the feud per se.


I'm not saying this to be contrary but virtually every time I flip to a Christian match, he's eating that ringpost. It's like every time I flip to Goodfellas, it's the scene in the kitchen with the mobster in the car trunk. ("Da hoof.")



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steven87gill
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.31
A lot of hate for Cena during the Wyatt promo. Personally, i'm indifferent about it. It was just your typical no-sell cornball-for-the-kids John Cena.

Look at it this way. He finally got his ''validating'' win over the Rock, so at least WWE are less paranoid about protecting him from clean losses & he isn't closing the shows with this stuff anymore.











(edited by steven87gill on 11.3.14 1811)
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.03
You know how sometimes in cinema a par-tay will be ragin' and then a total BOOK WORM will want the noise turned down and the rules followed, but then he gets swept up in the heat of the beat and goes "well hrm I suppose according to my calculations it would not be erroneous were I to shake it, one time" and then he does the cabbage patch and cuts loose?

That's what should've happened with Damien Sandow last night.

Which reminds me, how amazing would it have been if they combined the Daniel Bryan segment with Adam Rose's entrance?

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    It's already an homage to both WM10 and WM20, with the challenger wrestling twice in one night and the main event being a triple threat


It's downright spooky. See, this is why we all said 3 years ago that this needed to be in Madison Square ... Stadium.

    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    It wouldn't surprise me if Hogan has some role in a clusterfuck of an ending, but I would guess it'd be more of intercepting interlopers attempting to stop the win than actually causing the win.


I think they set up Hogan's role last night: punching Luke Harper a couple times and throwing him out of the ring, then posing with Cena, which I guess he already did, as Michael Cole shouts something about 30 years of smiles.

At this point it feels like Sheamus and Christian have had One More Match too many to even go again at Wrestlemania, unless it's Christian's loser leaves town match or something. Really it seems like they needn't even bother with any matches outside of the top 4. The Andre Battle Royal can just go 45 minutes and contain the Cesaro/Swagger split. Cesaro can win the trophy in some kind of Bret/Bad News situation except where the guy turning face wins.

Then again, if the Shield can't have a triple threat since there's a triple threat title match, I guess they can be in the battle royal too. A house of Usos/Rollins-Reigns and Ambrose/Big E title matches collapses upon Big E's mid-match announcement of his battle royal participation.

I'm praying for AJ on Main Event tonight. I hope the company is Business about having her drop the belt at Wrestlemania as the climax of this run to avoid looking vindictive, as like with the Michelle Beadle thing.

Let's call Bryan's knee
THE YES MOVE.

In fact let's name some other finishers that are still inexplicably unnamed. I mean heck even the Widowmaker had a trademark finisher name. I think it was the Widowmaker.

Dean Ambrose - DeanDDT
Seth Rollins - Sethoscope
Cesaro (uppercut) - Swiss Harmy Knife
Fandango - The That's My Jam
Alberto Del Rio - Armhurto
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.54
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

    Dean Ambrose - DeanDDT
    Seth Rollins - Sethoscope
    Cesaro (uppercut) - Swiss Harmy Knife
    Fandango - The That's My Jam
    Alberto Del Rio - Armhurto

I'm OK with "DeanDDT" if and only if Ambrose insisting on calling it the DeanDDT and Rollins/Reigns trying to tell him how much better "DeanDT" would be is what ends up actually leading to the terrifying Shield break-up blood feud.

Rollins - Seth From Above
Bryan - Goat Face-Killer or Knee Plus Ultra
Del Rio - Early Retirement
Truth - Should start doing a Tazzmission just so it can be called the Kata Ha Jimmy
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#37 Posted on
Ok, so I am probably the only one that feels this way, but I do not see much value in the Wrestlemania card. They lost me with their ham-handedness with Daniel Bryan. I do like the buildup for Undertaker v Lesnar, but that's a slam dunk with Heyman doing all the heavy lifting. The Uso's win the title last week and until this Raw, what other teams are there to challenge them? They had the Shield and Real Americans both in breakup mode. Cody and Goldust were in witness protection until this Raw. And now it looks like they are just going to job AJ out to either one of the Bellas or (ugh) Natalya. John Cena is in full out childish jerk mode while Bray Wyatt makes me want to check my closet to see what may be lurking in there. I am not trying to be overly negative, this is just one man's opinion. All I see that would appeal to me is UT v Lesnar and the few moments Bray Wyatt will get stomping a mudhole in Cena before the inevitable U cant c me, attitude adjustment and pin. Maybe Post mania will be better.
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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.03
    Originally posted by what I said
    I'm praying for AJ on Main Event tonight.


Wow, not only did she retain, she and Natalya had one of the best women's matches I've seen in WWE in years. Check check check it out.

After Stephanie's fiery performance of volcanic rage last night I think I want to see AJ vs. Steph.

    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    I'm OK with "DeanDDT" if and only if Ambrose insisting on calling it the DeanDDT and Rollins/Reigns trying to tell him how much better "DeanDT" would be


I meant DeanDT and mistyped!!! you all have to believe me.


    Rollins - Seth From Above


Now obviously all of these suggestions are serious and not jokes but this one should be used for real.


    Truth - Should start doing a Tazzmission just so it can be called the Kata Ha Jimmy


He doesn't DESERVE this. Because Truth's jumpy pully slammy thing being renamed the Little Jimmy because "hey! Little Jimmy!" was the enemy of everything I stand for.

Meanwhile, though, NXT has both a dilEmma and a Paige Turner, which tells me they're really doing things right down there.
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.73
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Cesaro (uppercut) - Swiss Harmy Knife
And if he fails to connect, it's the Swiss Miss?
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.09
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Let's call Bryan's knee
    THE YES MOVE.
I'm not Creative, so I just call it

KNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

(also I openly mock anyone who calls it a "Busaiku knee" - well, not really, but in my mind I do)

...but while I have you here, has no move been devalued more in recent months than Alberto del Rio's "that's the move he won the Championship with!" which JBL still doesn't realise he's now obviously saying in lieu of "I guarantee his opponent kicks out of THIS one?"



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