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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.45
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Note that WWE officially considers its current tag-team title to be a continuation of the SmackDown title initially won by Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit, and therefore the current championship is not the original tag-team title-- though the two titles have been unified.


    Is that because the Smackdown team (Colons) beat the Raw team (Miz & Morrison) in the unification? I think that means the WWF title history was wiped out by Jericho in December 2001. LONG LIVE THE WCW TITLE.


Like I keep saying, WWE Title history is weird. And, also, wrong. Wouldn't it mean more with two lineages running together (until branching together at unification), since that would mean these were also the same belts the Hart Foundation and Demolition held?

Anyway, best tag title match on RAW since Austin/HHH-Benoit/Jericho, which was apparently for completely different tag title belts. It really justifies The Shield's long-ish reign and is elevating the holy hell out of Cody and Dustin. I hope they can keep it up.


EDIT: One difference in Jericho as Undisputed Champion is that WCW as an organization ceased to exist no matter what after that match, so the match was always going to be for a WWE Undisputed World Champion no matter who won it.

Still, I view unification matches as streams all flowing into the same river. Yes, Daniel Bryan shouldn't be considered a WCW World Champion, but the WCW World Championship is still part of the WWE Title lineage since the titles were unified.

Except for whenever they want to talk about the "history of the World Title" which I guess makes Sting a former World Heavyweight Champion even though HHH was technically the first World Heavyweight Champion of official record.

I know, I harp on this way too much, but man, did that Brand Extension mess things up.

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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.59
Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    Wouldn't it mean more with two [tag title] lineages running together (until branching together at unification), since that would mean these were also the same belts the Hart Foundation and Demolition held?
I agree 100%, but it's not too late for them to fix it.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
Goldust was also rocking a full on Darth Maul with his facepaint.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.83
Here's the other thing about the official title histories. It's not like they're determined by Vince McMahon and a council of wrestling historians chaired by Howard Finkel. It's just put together by some WWE.com 23-year-old who probably took most of it from Wikipedia to begin with.

What WWE basically intended to think they meant happened when the titles split was that Triple H was the #1 contender, Lesnar jumped shows and refused to defend against him, so Bischoff disputed the undisputed title, pulled the WCW/World Title out of it, and off they went. So that's why Sting and Batista and Alberto Del Rio all held the same belt.

SO IT SHOULD REALLY LOOK LIKE THIS

oh god did I really do this



you can have that one for free, History of WWE DVD cover art

it's been a productive day

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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.48
No Light Heavyweight/Cruiserweight titles? :(



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.35
They never bothered unifying those titles! X-Pac just went home with the WWF LH title and sold it on eBay (and sadly not back to Villano III.)

And Vicki must still have the cruiserweight belt in her office somewhere, unless it got lost in of her many SmackDown!/Raw/fired! job changes.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.45
Justin, yeah, you really did and should have done that because it's great.


Another thing I remember is when Vince got rid of WCW the night after Survivor Series 2001, he renamed the "WCW Title" to the "World Title" before Vengeance 2001, and is the same name it has today (or when Rey Mysterio has the belt), and incidentally the same belt. Bischoff also said that he was awarding HHH the belt because he was literally the last person to hold that belt as champion (in a way, preserving the lineage of the physical belt).


Now let's fix Wikipedia.

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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.68
how dare you say that about Steven Richards
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So IJ and myself had gotten all the way through to the main event until tonight, and boy, was that worth the wait. IJ was SCREAMING "take advantage! Take advantage!!" as the Shield were all down outside the ring. And she *likes* the Shield. She just likes the Rhodes boys more.

Other quick IJ thoughts:

- (when R-Truth was chilling outside the ring against Ryback) "That is hilariously smart."

- (re: Brie Bella) "Why does she scream like that after every move? She's like the Marina Sharapova (sic) of the WWE."

- "You know what I HATE? When a guy is down for MORE than three, but the ref isn't looking and then the guy gets out of it."

- (Roman Reigns puts Goldust in a chinlock) "It would be really dumb it someone tapped out to that hold right there."

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Long-term they're building to the Cody/Goldust match at Wrestlemania.


Wait, what?



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
    Originally posted by JayJayDean


    - (re: Brie Bella) "Why does she scream like that after every move? She's like the Marina Sharapova (sic) of the WWE."


This. Drives me nuts. It's like she's not really putting her all into her screams/yells. And they are all the same.


AAAAHHHHH!....!



UUUHHHHHHH!.....!....


How anyone can monotone yell is beyond me.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.84
    Originally posted by JayJayDean

      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Long-term they're building to the Cody/Goldust match at Wrestlemania.


    Wait, what?


Apparently at some point Golddust said his dream WrestleMania match would be against Cody. I'm not sure if there's more to it than that, but it seems to have become common knowledge that that's where this all is going eventually.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
He and Cody have actually actively lobbied for it the last couple of WrestleManias, I think. Couple that with the dirtsheets saying Dustin's signed through to April and two and two becomes four.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.13
My favorite part of Justin's picture is:

some idiot
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.68
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Yeah, Bryan is getting superkicked in a few weeks.
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.68
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Yeah, Bryan is getting superkicked in a few weeks.
Wait. Does it count if Shawn whiffed the kick?
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