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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.12
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    I know, Bryan as the company's top babyface taking on the entire world. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING.


I was thinking more 20 minute HHH promos and their top babyface looking like a bitch with the roster holding their dick in their hands. I give it a month before people become bored with Bryan getting his ass kicked.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.71
I don't think we'll go a month straight of seeing Bryan getting his ass kicked. Next week will be a rough week for the offices of McMahon, McMahon-Helmsley, Helmsley, and Orton, especially considering Big Show and Mark Henry are in the same ballpark.

The only difference now is that we don't have Vince Russo writing insane things and we all really pull for Daniel Bryan to come out ahead without these stunts, just as a WRESTLER, without the deus-ex-machina of the babyface pulls an "up yours" move via beer truck, or something that'd get them arrested, etc.

I've been calling this for over a year. Daniel Bryan is the biggest name in the WWE and all of wrestling.

Just goes to show that when Cena leaves, the WWE goes to hell...


(edited by Lexus on 20.8.13 0628)

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.72
a) I'm not sure why the recapper even does these things anymore when it's clear that nothing will ever be good enough for him.

b) Anyone is deluding themselves if they think Daniel Bryan is better with the title than without.

c) Anyone who can't see that McMahon segments are consistently the high rated segments are also deluding themselves.

(edited by wannaberockstar on 20.8.13 0731)
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.97
I don't think they could have made things any clearer in the opening segment if Cena had literally handed Bryan a torch on the way out of the ring. I don't think anyone has the patience for this story to go all the way to WrestleMania, but a payoff at Survivor Series would probably work out just fine, and I wouldn't bat my eyes at Bryan going into WrestleMania as the defending champion.

And for me, the real highlight of the night was Dolph getting folded absolutely in half by Rollins' spear. He got killed dead last night.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Call me crazy, but maybe they should pull the trigger early on that Wyatt Family face turn. Imagine doing a repeat of that February 2000 Raw - HHH tells Bryan he has two hours to find partners for an eight-man against Orton and the Shield. Cue the Shield eliminating Ziggler, Show and Henry backstage. We get to main event time, Bryan walks to the ring to face the heel team alone, and...the lights go out.

    "...we're here."

    Tell me the place wouldn't go nuts for that.


It would, I love this idea in the sense tha tthe pop would be obscene. But then we have a glut of faces even more than we have now.

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Just to add to this train of thought, I had a wild idea that when Bryan was getting beaten down by Shield/Orton/HHH, you'd suddenly see Barrett, Young, Gabriel and Slater rush the ring and boom, Nexus 3.0.


Bryan wasn't really with the Nexus though, and this seems out of character for Barrett. That said, there's a newly face tag-team featuring one of those guys they could bring into this.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    I was thinking more 20 minute HHH promos and their top babyface looking like a bitch with the roster holding their dick in their hands. I give it a month before people become bored with Bryan getting his ass kicked.


Mick Foley.

Which brings me to what I love about this angle, and why I'm so excited for it. Because they are building to something, they're replicating something. Something that someone said already in this thread:

    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Imagine doing a repeat of that February 2000 Raw


The Dallas 10-Man.

I remember this so clearly. This is what got me into wrestling after the gap between "childhood this is real to me dammit" and "this is fake". I was watching it before that, but this was the pinnacle - when I realzied that "I'm invested into this". I have the match (found on youtube) bookmarked, I still watch it. Everything about it was tight.

And that's the crux of the matter; they're not gunning for the "next Austin" (they already have that; Punk. You see that promo yesterday?). They're going for the next Foley (Bryan) - with Foley being legit namedropped the other week by Vince himself. As someone said before, they need a new Rock - and there's one guy who makes perfect sense. It also explains why he's been in limbo, because if they are thinking this long term, maybe they had to wrap up some loose ends and keep him in a holding pattern until after the angle begins in earnest.

Dolph Ziggler,

Punk = Austin.
Bryan = Foley.
Ziggler = Rock
Prime Time Players OR the Usos = Too Cool (both teams even dance). Or they can go with Show and Henry.

Will they go for a five man? Orton + The Shield is only four guys. They could throw in Barrett and/or all sorts of guys into the McMahon-Helmsey Regime 2.0 (I want a DVD of 1.0 so bad, but it spans a couple of years so it might be difficult to compile).

It may be wishful thinking, but I also think there could be a couple of other guys who might show up. After all, they need a new Jericho (........Sami Zayn?)

Yeah, some of the show is crap. But this angle, I'm all-in.

(edited by El Nastio on 20.8.13 0830)


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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by Lexus
    Why did they keep showing the Eye of Sauron every time they discussed Randy Orton's "coronation"?


It took me a second to realize they weren't plugging The Hobbit prequels and that it's a snake eye (not Snake Eyes, that would be weird if they kept showing Snake Eyes). Randy Orton is The Viper, so it's his All-Seeing Eye.

Since I'm referencing 80s cartoons, Randy Orton's coronation went way, way better for him than Starscream's coronation in Transformers: The Movie. Daniel Bryan is no Galvatron.

Except for Punk's segment and, honestly, Cena's farewell and Stephanie and Bryan's segment at the start of the show - and I really thought Stephanie was great, her best performance in years (more than a solid B+) - I didn't like RAW too much. I'm not sold on Daniel Bryan as the babyface hero rebelling against the Corporate Juggernaut because, as he always says, he is a WRESTLER. He is not Stone Cold Steve Austin. Currently, his character, "anger management issues" aside, is just not equipped to battle the monolithic corporation, as evidenced by the way he was punked out at the end of RAW. They did plant the seeds for him having some help down the road from Ziggler, Show and others, but I'm not convinced yet of the viability of the Daniel Bryan Against The World (Wrestling Entertainment) storyline. Funny enough, if it were Punk the McMahons were doing this to, I'd have an easier time believing he could ultimately win. But, you know, we'll see.

(edited by John Orquiola on 20.8.13 0534)


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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.12
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    a) I'm not sure why the recapper even does these things anymore when it's clear that nothing will ever be good enough for him.

    b) Anyone is deluding themselves if they think Daniel Bryan is better with the title than without.

    c) Anyone who can't see that McMahon segments are consistently the high rated segments are also deluding themselves.

    (edited by wannaberockstar on 20.8.13 0731)


a) The recapper doesn't need to be a cheerleader for the product. It would pretty stupid if he was. I enjoy Its False's recaps. He is really even in his report and I enjoy his candor. I am sure people think, its because we are sorta on the same page, it is not. We have not always been on the same page and while I may disagree with him, I like it. So, stop being that guy.

b) I am delusional then. The problem with the giant chase for the title, the reign tends to suck.

c) Sometimes, they are. Sometimes they are not. It also has to do with the fact that the McMahon segments tend to have more people than just the McMahons in them.

Daniel Bryan maybe more Hot Rod than Optimus Prime.

(edited by lotjx on 20.8.13 0738)


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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by lotjx
    The recapper doesn't need to be a cheerleader for the product.


But you know, there's also nothing wrong with liking the product if you like the product. Many people are enjoying the product.

Speaking for myself, I'm constantly looking for the things I like in the three hour slog called RAW. That's what I tend to put my focus on.

I think one thing we can all agree on, varying tastes aside, is that we all WANT to like the product.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    Daniel Bryan maybe more Hot Rod than Optimus Prime.


I can get behind that. That would make Show his Ultra Magnus and Ziggler his Arcee. (He's the pretty one.)

(edited by John Orquiola on 20.8.13 0543)


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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.12
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by lotjx
      The recapper doesn't need to be a cheerleader for the product.


    But you know, there's also nothing wrong with liking the product if you like the product. Many people are enjoying the product.

    Speaking for myself, I'm constantly looking for the things I like in the three hour slog called RAW. That's what I tend to put my focus on.

    I think one thing we can all agree on, varying tastes aside, is that we all WANT to like the product.

      Originally posted by lotjx
      Daniel Bryan maybe more Hot Rod than Optimus Prime.


    I can get behind that. That would make Show his Ultra Magnus and Ziggler his Arcee. (He's the pretty one.)

    (edited by John Orquiola on 20.8.13 0543)


I think its a slippery slope of saying, hey find something good about the show, all the time or don't do it. To be fair, we are lucky to have anyone willing to give a recap of the show, some sites are just one sentence posts and then it turns to trollfeast 1996 part 20. I like his recaps and I really get pissed when people who don't do much expect be WWE shills tell people to do something their way. That irks me. Granted, I try to convince people to see things of my way of thinking, but I am not bashing anybody who goes out of their way to provide good content to this site nor am I going to tell someone to trash the product all the time.

Mark Henry is Grimlock. Ziggler is Springer. Katylin is Arcee and the WWE Universe is Daniel. CM Punk as Kup.

(edited by lotjx on 20.8.13 0753)


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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
The Passion of the Bryan is much better than I thought it would be. The dynamic of the Orton-Helmsleys was done PERFECTLY in that main event spot with Orton as the stoic enforcer. The many possibilities against The Shield are fun.

Bryan + Ziggler = Team Danzig

Ziggler + Big Show = Team Show Off

The staging of the segment was awesome. On the ramp, we have the whole roster, then the Shield, then Orton, then Hunter. It's a video-game hierarchy. A gauntlet for Bryan to run through. And he went around the roster, not through them (he already did that when Cena announced him as the top contender) to get to the mid-level bosses.

The Reigns spear on Ziggler was magnificent. The GTS on the steps was awesome. Bryan almost beating The Shield to get to the ring was great. The end of the Usos match was hot fun (mid-air tag! no-look splash!). Cody busting out the moonsault again and winning again! Hunter saying Daniel Bryan's name every other sentence, and I can't BELIEVE the American Dragon is the top face in the company. Steph listed the very credible reasons why Bryan doesn't fit as the WWE face champ, and they're pushing him to the moon despite it because he has the audience safely tucked in his Captain Caveman beard.

Cena's out. Sheamus is out. It's a bumper crop of small main-event faces who work their asses off. Who can be against this?



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.72
    Originally posted by lotjx

    a) The recapper doesn't need to be a cheerleader for the product. It would pretty stupid if he was. I enjoy Its False's recaps. He is really even in his report and I enjoy his candor. I am sure people think, its because we are sorta on the same page, it is not. We have not always been on the same page and while I may disagree with him, I like it. So, stop being that guy.



There's a difference between being a "cheerleader" and being negative for the sake of being negative. The latter is fine at first but just grows tiresome real quickly. It's why, quite frankly, I don't spend much of my time on discussion boards and also why I probably enjoy the show much more than the majority of people here.

    Originally posted by lotjx

    b) I am delusional then. The problem with the giant chase for the title, the reign tends to suck.


Daniel Bryan being the good old boy who finally got everything would get old quickly. There's a reason why movies END with the hero getting the prize and not begin with it.

(edited by wannaberockstar on 20.8.13 0908)
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
Just goign to throw these out there for compare/contrast sakes. Replace "Cactus Jack" with Daniel Bryan, and see if it fits:





(edited by El Nastio on 20.8.13 0924)


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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    EDIT: So, is the story that HHH didn't want Maddox to screw Daniel Bryan, that he wanted to personally do it himself and that Maddox is just too spineless to stand up to the McMahons after eating the Pedigree? I think they should have just set up the guest ref thing differently and this might have actually had an explanation I'd have bought.



HHH had no faith in Maddox's ability to put Bryan down?
Maddox not having been in their camp long enough to be trusted with their plan?
Maddox potentially trying to help Bryan due to confusion from not being in on the plan?

No one's mentioned the potential angle to go to from here... Cena's participation in the plan. He and WWE (and, thus, the McMahons) knew he was injured and needed surgery. Pinned by a running knee? Maybe Cena was doing his part to get the belt to the better champion for the future of WWE.



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
I accept that I'm too far gone down the cynicism trail at this point. Everything pointed to Bryan beating Cena for the title at 'Slam, but I could not bring myself to believe it would happen until it actually happened.

The Foley comparison may be more apt than people think as Foley was never the guy who would end the heel's big title reign for good; it was Austin. I have trouble seeing Mania being Orton-Bryan as opposed to Orton-Cena.

They have to push new faces because they literally have no choice any more. Cena, Sheamus, and even Kane are out of the picture.

If it happens, it happens. I'm just at the point where I'll believe it when I see it.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by Tyler Durden
      Originally posted by It's False
      Welcome to 1999, as the McMahon-Helmsley Era begins again. Let's welcome your cast of characters.

      Triple H as "Triple H"
      Stephanie McMahon as "Stephanie McMahon"
      Vince McMahon as "Vince McMahon"
      Brad Maddox as "Shane McMahon"
      Daniel Bryan as "Stone Cold Mick Foley"
      The Shield as "Degeneration X"
      Dolph Ziggler as "The Rock"
      The Big Show as "The Big Show"
      and Randy Orton as "The Beaver"


    In my opinion, WWE now feels more like WWF in late 1998/early 1999, right after Rock won the championship at Survivor Series:

    Summerslam 2013 = Survivor Series 1998
    Daniel Bryan = Stone Cold and - at Summerslam - Mick Foley (in one person)
    Randy Orton = The Rock
    Vince Mc Mahon = Vince Mc Mahon
    Triple H = Shane Mc Mahon
    The Shield = The Big Boss Man


Daniel Bryan is gonna be SHOCKED when he finds out who the Greater Power is!

What'll be weird is when Bray Wyatt kidnaps Triple H and Stephanie's toddler daughter and tries to marry her in a Ring of Fire.



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.28
Things I hated:

1) Cena's "Listen, I'm not saying the injury cost me that match, folks, that injury where doctors said I was insane to wrestle and look at my crazy Popeye elbow oh my god I have to go away forever now everybody!I love yooooooouuuuu!" was annoying. I get that they wanted to do the "passing the torch" moment, but why not have them say Bryan beat him bad enough or tore something that he needs surgery and not that "I'm not saying this is why Bryan is taking over but THIS IS WHY BRYAN IS TAKING OVER YOU GUYS!" stuff? Felt like an extended version of his speech that killed the buzz on the Brock match last year. I thought Cena was a better guy than that.

Obviously, all would have been forgiven had he simply come out and said "Boy Bye!"

2) HHH. Just, in general. Please let that be his final HHH Memorial Supervillain Dramatic Monologue of this angle. I can't live through a year of those again.

Thinks I liked:

Fandango's role in the in-show shoe commercial needs more love here. "Whooooooaaaa...those are nice shoes!" and "Can I....DONCE in those shoes?!" Just killed me. Curtis as Fandango is a human cartoon and I unreservedly love everything he's doing right now. I have no idea what you do with that from a wrestling program point of view, but Fandango just wandering around backstage being vaguely fascinated by everything until he gets mad about his name is a thing I'd be happy with.

CM Punk as the One Man Attitude Era continues to be my favorite thing on the show. Oh man, that Fat Guy. Punk's ability to pick out something (presumably, I guess) unexpected, work it into what he's doing and use it as a springboard to get fired up is what separates him from the entire rest of the roster. This version of Punk, who technically never actually turned face and is just the righteous asshole fighting against someone who deserves to have Punk's unbridled, obnoxious wrath turned on him is the best version of Punk and the best character they have.

It helps that Punk is the only person so far willing to let Curtis Axel look good and that Punk sells beatings so well. Heyman does need more muscle, though, so I think it's time to do Punk vs. The Shield/Ambrose. The only danger of that is that doing so brings Punk into Bryan's orbit a little too early, which could be odd since Punk is 1996/1997 Austin and Bryan is 2011 Punk.

Also, Heyman coming out and unexpectedly firing off on the Fat Guy, too, was hilarious. Poor Fat Guy, though Punk did start off that rant by calling him sir, so it evens out.

Did Rollins really mess up his leg when Ziggler suplexed him out of the ring or is he the best seller in WWE? The camera repeatedly caught him getting tossed out and landing on it, which was kind of funny. I do like that the Shield look like the walking wounded even after they win, which puts them in the class with Punk and Sheamus as people who get over the idea that wrestling is brutal and awesome.

I enjoyed the Prime Time Players just being faces now. They were never really bad people anyway, they loved Santa. Also, major respect to WWE for not doing what many of us feared and explicitly bringing anything up with Young. PTP deserve to be pushed because they are awesome, and if they actually handle it that way, I will be impressed and happy.

Much as I hated having to hear HHH talk for that long, the timing on Bryan struggling into the ring and eating the RKO instantly was beautiful. There are so, so, so many things that could and are highly likely to go wrong with this, especially with HHH being HHH, but I am...guardedly optimistic. Feels weird. But there you go.

    Originally posted by DirtyMikeSeaver
    To play into the story, why was Mark Henry on the stage just standing there? Doesn't he hate The Shield? Didn't his tag partner get beaten up? Why wouldn't he help Daniel Bryan?
They did have HHH threaten to fire anyone on stage who came down to help Bryan. HHH specifically pointed someone on stage out for an extra "don't help him!" warning, but it wasn't clear who it was. I'm assuming Punk wasn't on stage, so Henry seemed like a likely target and he was standing close to center stage where HHH pointed.

Anyway, with Punk distracted and Cena LEAVING FOR(-6 months)EVER, nobody is going to risk getting fired to help Daniel Bryan unless they have, say, an Iron-Clad Contract of some kind.

(So, probably, JTG.)

Wait, also, a wrestling thing to do with Fandango: next time Bryan is getting beaten down by eight guys, have Fandango come out and say "Mind if I...cut in?" and then literally just dance around Bryan being beaten up then leave to go to the desk and say "King, do you know how to do the...Mashed Potato?" andsteal Sonic tater tots off King's promotional tray.

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

    Good for the Shield to get put back in an important position.
"Hey, Shield guys, move!"


    Originally posted by thecubsfan

    Also mixed - where do they exactly fit in the strangely crowded tag team division?
A Matadors/Real Americans feud seems likely, complete with Zeb making some kind "less time dodging border guards and more time dodging bulls" remark and everyone being confused about where exactly the Matadors are supposed to be from.

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    Listen, I still love the new WWE Title belt and am unabashedly going to talk about it whenever I can. Looks great on Orton.
I wasn't a fan of the new belt (just seemed to be missing something), but it did look great paired with Orton. I forgot to check, did he have specialized circular side plate things? I'm hoping for the RNN logo on one side and Canada in a circle with a slash through it on the other.

    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    So, is the story that HHH didn't want Maddox to screw Daniel Bryan, that he wanted to personally do it himself and that Maddox is just too spineless to stand up to the McMahons after eating the Pedigree?
Huh, good point. I guess the answer is a combination of CEREBRAL ASSASSIN and that HHH, both in character and the real guy, just needs to be the one to defend this business.

    Originally posted by Lexus
    Why did they keep showing the Eye of Sauron every time they discussed Randy Orton's "coronation"?
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    It took me a second to realize they weren't plugging The Hobbit prequels and that it's a snake eye
Yeah, I assume that was the Elder Snake God who communicates with Orton telepathically and advised him, for now, to swallow his pride and side with the McMahons. Now they play the waiting game, until the time is right for the snake god to be reborn unto the earthly realm and consume all. But still, despite the Snake God's urging, Randy just won't budge on wearing a suit.

    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    I can get behind that. That would make Show his Ultra Magnus and Ziggler his Arcee. (He's the pretty one.)
Punk, obviously, has better things to tonight THAN GET BOOED BY THAT FAT GUY!
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.83
    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      I know, Bryan as the company's top babyface taking on the entire world. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING.


    I was thinking more 20 minute HHH promos and their top babyface looking like a bitch with the roster holding their dick in their hands. I give it a month before people become bored with Bryan getting his ass kicked.


Howzabout you come back on September 24, then, and revisit this prediction? Are you going to hang your hat on another nail (as another poster so aptly pointed out) if that's not the case? Or will you take a deep breath and see where the story goes from there?
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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely

    CM Punk as the One Man Attitude Era continues to be my favorite thing on the show. Oh man, that Fat Guy. Punk's ability to pick out something (presumably, I guess) unexpected, work it into what he's doing and use it as a springboard to get fired up is what separates him from the entire rest of the roster. This version of Punk, who technically never actually turned face and is just the righteous asshole fighting against someone who deserves to have Punk's unbridled, obnoxious wrath turned on him is the best version of Punk and the best character they have.


Word. Punk's segments are like a syringe full of adrenaline that gets shot into my heart when I'm about to black out during RAW. I agree, this is the Best Punk.

Flair might be the only guy who could possibly love that Fat Guy bashing the most.

"WOOO! SHUT UP, FAT BOY! BEFORE I MAKE A WOMAN OUT OF YOUR WIFE!"

(edited by John Orquiola on 20.8.13 0716)


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#39 Posted on
I'm cautiously optimistic about the McMahon-Helmsley Regime 2.0 vs Daniel Bryan stuff. Just with that one episode of RAW they've all but set up Bryan vs Orton (the endgame); Bryan vs HHH; Bryan, Ziggler, Henry and Show vs The Shield; Ziggler vs Ambrose; Rollins and Reigns vs Henry and Show.

If the McMahons buddy up with Heyman in order to make use of Lesnar (and to a lesser extent, Axel), then that pulls Punk into the storyline too, potentially setting up Punk vs Lesnar II; Punk vs HHH II; Punk vs Orton; Bryan vs Lesnar; Bryan and Punk vs Orton and HHH.

The potential for The Shield being distracted with a feud against The Wyatts is there too.

There's a bunch of guys just treading water right now who would be a natural fit for the McMahon-Helmsley Regime - Barrett, Miz (I think it's safe to say his run as a face is going nowhere), Ryback, etc. Similarly, there's a bunch of guys who could easily side with Bryan - a face-turned Fandango (the crowd clearly wanna cheer the guy), Kofi, the aforementioned Ziggler, Show and Henry.

There's so much they could do with this storyline and so many places they could go with it. I just hope they don't fuck it up.



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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
I woulda swore instead of Bryan coming out to the ring, he was going to appear on the 'tron in the back, destroying Steph and H's limo, then ride off on a four wheeler when they come out. How long until the GOAT 3:16 signs? I would gladly hold one up.

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http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2008/05/09/5521331.html That's all the jail time he gets?
- StaggerLee, Nick Hogan going to jail (2008)
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