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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
I am as hypersensitive wussy liberal don't-shoot-unarmed-black-kids as they come and I didn't pick up an ounce of ooky racist subtext in that Wyatt segment.
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.47
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    I am as hypersensitive wussy liberal don't-shoot-unarmed-black-kids as they come and I didn't pick up an ounce of ooky racist subtext in that Wyatt segment.
What if I told you Kane is actually black?



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.83
I ask this only because the announce team made a point of asking it -- which usually means it's going to factor into something.

Any guesses what was up with the Wyatt line of "Kane, go toward the buzzards"? Were the announcers tipping off Kane joining the family, perhaps?
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      I am as hypersensitive wussy liberal don't-shoot-unarmed-black-kids as they come and I didn't pick up an ounce of ooky racist subtext in that Wyatt segment.
    What if I told you Kane is actually black?


Glen Jacobs WAS born in Spain...I AM OUTRAGED AT THIS AFRICAN/EUROPEAN VICTIMIZATION.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.84
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    I ask this only because the announce team made a point of asking it -- which usually means it's going to factor into something.

    Any guesses what was up with the Wyatt line of "Kane, go toward the buzzards"? Were the announcers tipping off Kane joining the family, perhaps?


I think they were telling Kane to follow the trail of bodies in their wake to find them. The buzzards would be circling over the bodies.


(edited by Matt Tracker on 16.7.13 0935)


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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      Originally posted by CRZ
        Originally posted by Amos Cochran
        I am as hypersensitive wussy liberal don't-shoot-unarmed-black-kids as they come and I didn't pick up an ounce of ooky racist subtext in that Wyatt segment.
      What if I told you Kane is actually black?


    Glen Jacobs WAS born in Spain...I AM OUTRAGED AT THIS AFRICAN/EUROPEAN VICTIMIZATION.

The rain in Spain falls gently on the Kane?



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.73
    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
    Where's the GIF of Paul E. yelling "IT'S CLOBBERING TIME!"?


Ah, here it is:

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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.38
The Punk/Heyman/Brock promo just gets better every time I watch it. One of the best segments of the year, so far.

Best part? After Heyman spends the whole promo talking about how he put himself through everything to appease Punk and that his kids had to be the ones to point out to him that Brock always listens to him and after Brock destroys Punk, the first thing Brock does is walk up to Heyman and ask him, "Are you ok?" It's such a masterful illustration of the major differences between the Heyman/Punk and Heyman/Brock relationships.



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#29 Posted on
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    I ask this only because the announce team made a point of asking it -- which usually means it's going to factor into something.

    Any guesses what was up with the Wyatt line of "Kane, go toward the buzzards"? Were the announcers tipping off Kane joining the family, perhaps?


After watching the Wyatt promo again, I pondered if maybe the entire promo was directed at Kane. Which, if that's the case (and it's an incredibly subtle one), then I seems to be a recruitment push for him to join the family.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by It's False
    The Punk/Heyman/Brock promo just gets better every time I watch it. One of the best segments of the year, so far.

    Best part? After Heyman spends the whole promo talking about how he put himself through everything to appease Punk and that his kids had to be the ones to point out to him that Brock always listens to him and after Brock destroys Punk, the first thing Brock does is walk up to Heyman and ask him, "Are you ok?" It's such a masterful illustration of the major differences between the Heyman/Punk and Heyman/Brock relationships.


I agree that it's the little things with Heyman, like before the "IT'S CLOBBERING TIME!" he grabs his head and shakes it like "Why does it always come down to violence!" Or after Brock asks him if he's ok, Paul thanks Brock for coming to his aid.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by It's False
    The Punk/Heyman/Brock promo just gets better every time I watch it. One of the best segments of the year, so far.

    Best part? After Heyman spends the whole promo talking about how he put himself through everything to appease Punk and that his kids had to be the ones to point out to him that Brock always listens to him and after Brock destroys Punk, the first thing Brock does is walk up to Heyman and ask him, "Are you ok?" It's such a masterful illustration of the major differences between the Heyman/Punk and Heyman/Brock relationships.


Yes! Brock Lesnar is a true and loyal friend, someone who appreciates Paul Heyman and everything he's ever done for him. Brock is the good guy here, in my eyes. Standing up for someone who's supported, loved, and sacrificed for him since day one. I hope Brock leaves greasy muttonchop CM Punk stains all over the Staples Center.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.52
I just watched the Heyman/Punk/Lesnar part again and have to say in my best Chris Farley: "That...was..Awesome!"

The way they talked, the facial expressions, the beatdown, everything worked. The only thing that could have made it better might have been Jim Ross on commentary.

Somebody posted a pic of Wolverine vs. The Hulk over on Scott Keith's blog that pretty much summed this one up.

The visual of 15,000 fans pumping their fists to Bryan's "Yes" is a sight to see as well.


I have no idea what they are doing with Vickie and how fans are supposed to respond. One night she needs to buy a ticket to get in the building, then at the PPV she is a guest panelist. What is this supposed to build towards?
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.12
The Sicilian in me appreciates all the wonderful Godfather style mannerisms and words in the Punk/Heyman promo. God, this is truly beautiful.



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.74
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Yes! Brock Lesnar is a true and loyal friend, someone who appreciates Paul Heyman and everything he's ever done for him.


Please tell me this angle ends when Brock accidentally kills a diva and Heyman, finally accepting that Brock is too strong and dumb for his own good, leads him out to the ring, tells him the story of how they're going to become WWE champion, and then shoots Brock in the head.
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.76
Because I'm a continuity nerd, I'd love to see it revealed that Bray Wyatt's mentor was Kevin Sullivan, who could be the new Chairman of the Board.

Sullivan's final revenge vs the Windham Family.



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.79
    Originally posted by used2bcool
    No time to do a full recap, but I can get this started. (EDIT: Looks like I lost by exactly a minute and a half. Damn you, Shapiro!)


It was a true stunner. I always try to acquiesce to the 1st posts with actual recaps.


    I have no idea what the endgame for these 1-800-FELLA commercials is.


This chillingly makes me question everything I know, because despite hearing "1-800-FELLA" before, this is the first one I've actually seen, evidently mistaking the rest for actual commercials. How many have there been?

    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Number one with a bullet on "visible positive changes that can be seen to be HHH's doing": debuting (or repackaging) of new talent. Axel, Shield, the Wyatts, Big E., Sandow, have all greatly benefited from groundwork laid prior to their debut


Yup. Imagine where Fandango would be if he just showed up one week as a guy doing that gimmick and beat Yoshi Tatsu. Even RVD's return was a much bigger deal because of the hype packages. RVD's situation is also possible because HHH has reversed the longstanding need to only sign guys to work full schedules. Hunter is more amenable to letting guys come in and out, which has made Lesnar, Jericho, RVD, possibly Sting, and who knows who else in the future -- a Kurt Angle retirement tour? another Batista run someday? -- feasible. Better for wrestlers, better for fans, better for storylines.

I mean, the Wyatts are kind of a remarkable deal. The two other guys aren't exactly stellar, and Bray is a great talker but never the kind of guy who WWE was going to handpick from developmental and shoot to the top. Thanks to the vignettes (and Bray's acting, certainly), they've gotten a superstar reaction both weeks. WWE has really restocked the cupboard this year, but it's not so much from an influx of better talent as it has been an influx of good talent that was put in useful positions instead of slotting them right away into MVP/Morrison/Shelton/Swagger purgatory.

It is reminiscent of 2000, when a bunch of new acts in prominent positions invigorated the show and things got really cool ... except for Wrestlemania which they curiously hiccuped on.

I've probably said this before, but it's funny how the fallout from the 2011 Punk promo -- with Punk coming back too soon, Triple H becoming COO, and their feud -- was so botched on TV, while behind the scenes those are the two guys directly responsible for the company makeover. In a nutshell: Daniel Bryan and the Shield in, John Laurinaitis and Brian Gewirtz out.

Though it'd be nice if they threw Zack Ryder a bone and just put him in a heel team with Curt Hawkins or something.

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    WHAT'S UP? = Truth's hairline.


Let me tell you this. When I look at Mark Henry's hair, I think, that's definitely a guy who has a bunch of hair right there.


    Langston is the one I think they almost fumbled early on, but he probably can't hit his real stride until he turns and gets to show his personality.


Part of what's so sad about the Ziggler break-up is those three seemed to all be such good buds, good chemistry, same wavelength. I never would've taken Big E for an irreverent galoof.

    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    I thought the last segment was scripted to encourage the crowd to chant "NO! NO! NO!" at every name other than Daniel Bryan, but the crowd didn't pick up on that part.


Ohhh that would make a lot of sense. That would've been cool, but it seems like the crowd was in no mood to suffer the idea of #1 contenders who weren't Daniel Bryan.

Part of it coming off so well was also just luck of circumstance: Meltzer said there was a Bryan/Barrett match booked in between Punk/Heyman and RVD/Jericho, but the Punk angle went long so they scrapped the Bryan segment and gave the leftover time to RVD/Jericho. So Bryan probably got an even better reaction by virtue of not having appeared yet, and RVD/Jericho had a more memorable match by going longer than usual.
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.38
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    This chillingly makes me question everything I know, because despite hearing "1-800-FELLA" before, this is the first one I've actually seen, evidently mistaking the rest for actual commercials. How many have there been?


There have been three that I can remember. Let's go for a quick tour of youtube, shall we? So, we have the Restaurant one (youtube.com), which I think was the first one, then the Cat in the Tree (youtube.com), and the one we saw yesterday: a bad case of hiccups (youtube.com).

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