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Oof! I can't believe I'm the one starting this, but a brush through the DVR appeared necessary. Don't get used to this, because Monday Night Football is nearly upon us!

CM Punk v. The Big Show went to a No Contest when Daniel Bryan ran in and attacked Punk...for some reason. Heel beatdown ensued until John Cena made the save, much to Punk's chagrin. GM AJ made the formulaic tag main event for later.

Hey, look! It's JTG, meaning everything you see on Twitter is a work! (Except for that whole AW thing. That's probably not a work.) JTG takes umbrage to not getting airtime. AJ overhears this and books JTG for...

Ryback d. JTG. SQUASH! I sense the start of yet another losing streak angle. Joke's on them. At least now JTG's getting paid to look like a loser on TV rather than sit at home like a loser. And whether the Tweets were worked or not, at least JTG got airtime...unlike Zack Ryder.

SUMMERSLAM YOUTUBE SPECIAL: Santino Marella defends the United States Championship against Antonio Cesaro!

Roddy Piper prepares for tonight's Piper's Pit with Guest To Be Chosen By Twitter. Yup. Camera pans over to Shawn Michaels on the phone. He yells at Triple H for picking tonight of all nights to fly commercial. What are the odds??? H and Brock have a contract signing later.

Heath Slater gets on the mic and says nothing interesting. That leads to...

R-Truth d. Heath Slater. SQUASH!

Post-match, the PTP's beat up Truth. Kofi Kingston's not here, because...um...yeah. AW's departure is not mentioned, unless I missed it.

Mark Henry's continuing existence is acknowledged, as he went overseas to encourage the U.S. Olympic athletes. Get well soon, Mark!

We recap Booker T pulling Del Rio from his title match this Sunday. Del Rio will confront Booker this Friday.

Sin Cara d. Tensai. This one lasted about a minute and it was pretty bad, as SC wins with a DDT. Post-match, Tensai his Sakamoto with the Baldo Bomb for fun.

Piper's Pit saw Chris Jericho winning the inane Twitter poll. Dolph Ziggler and Vickie Guerrero interrupt, with Dolph telling Jericho that he doesn't have it anymore. Miz interrupts next to try and take over the segment, so Jericho cleans house on the heels. That leads to...

Dolph Ziggler d. Chris Jericho and The Miz in a triple threat match. This match was booked by AJ via Twitter because EVERYTHING IS DONE THROUGH TWITTER! OR TOUT!

Eve Torres tries to stir the pot by telling CM Punk that she likes the new Punk. Punk says that he's the same guy and that he's still the best fighting for himself. Eve calls bullshit, so Punk offers to tell John Cena this to his face.

Next segment, he DOES!

Layla & Kaitlyn d. Eve Torres & Beth Phoenix. Standard Divas match.

John Cena & CM Punk d. The Big Show & Daniel Bryan. Surprisingly, this kicked off the third hour. Cena and Punk play mind games, as both guys use each other's finishing sequences. Punk has enough of Cena's shit and bails, challenging Cena to win the match himself. And so he does, as Cena AA's Bryan and dispatches him rather easily. As Cena celebrates, Show tries to attack, so Punk wipes out Show with the belt. Cena turns around and suspects chicanery, so Punk gets in his face about it. Finally, Punk collects himself and offers the hand of friendship, which Cena refuses, because he's a dick. Punk angrily storms off.

Remember, Punk composed himself and decided to be the bigger man and Cena, the supposed babyface of this angle, basically told him to fuck off. Why are we supposed to cheer for Cena again?

Damien Sandow d. Christian with the neckbreaker. Man, what a return this has been for Christian, eh? Brodus Clay enters to his music in mid-match...and Christian STILL can't win! Unbelivable.

Brock Lesnar comes out for the contract signing, leading to a dynamite Paul Heyman promo, marred slightly by incessant "WHAT" shit. H still isn't here, so Shawn Michaels comes out solo. Lesnar threatens bad things for Michaels until H finally arrives. Again, no blows are exchanged between Lesnar and H or Michaels, but the feeling of ominousness looms.

Matt Striker tries to talk to Big Show about Summerslam, but there's suddenly a car accident in the lot. Shawn Michaels apparently T-boned Paul Heyman, bro! As Michaels yells at Heyman through his window, Lesnar suddenly bolts in and pulls Michaels out of the car, taking out the camera. We hear lots of bumps and collisions to go to our last break.

Post-match, we see Michaels' car a wreck and a bunch of wrestlers looking on with no sign of Michaels, Lesnar, or Heyman. Triple H wants to know what happened, but none of the boys or AJ know where they are.

That leads to Lesnar and Heyman dragging Michaels to the ring. Lesnar applies the Kimura on Michaels, leading to H running down, but Heyman threatens arm-breakage if H comes any closer. H stands on the ramp, so Lesnar breaks the arm anyway. The heels bail and H enters the ring, making angry faces to end the show 3 minutes early with no overrun.

And there it is! Have at it, W's!

(edited by It's False on 13.8.12 2128)



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I can't promise I'll remember EVERYTHING I just watched because I didn't take notes, but let's see what I can give you.

Big Show and CM Punk opened the show. I could have sworn Punk's Big Heel Turn was YOUR defining angle of the summer, but 2 weeks later and he's already tweening. No real finish, all sorts of run ins, and AJ makes Punk/Cena vs. Show/Bryan later.

Then JTG is caught COMPLAINING backstage about his SPOT. Just like REAL LIFE. He's fed to Ryback, who is still not satiated.

R-Truth beats Heath Slater. Then he's attacked by the Prime Time Players and it's a black and black on black beatdown. Kofi does not help; should have sent an SOS.

Sin Cara beat Lord Tensai in about a minute. Tensai took out his frustration on Sakamoto because he's racist.

Roddy Piper leads an absolutely hilarious Piper's Pit - dude has lost it completely and needs to be put on color commentary immediately. Chris Jericho is Tweeted in by YOU - the universe. Dolph, Vickie, and Miz interrupt, leading to ...

Dolph pinning Jericho in an impromptu three-way (featuring Miz not Vickie) ... Surprisingly great match, probably better than what you're paying for on Sunday. Jericho just can't win THE BIG ONE.

There was some women's wrestling, but I took the opportunity to put my BBQ away. Presumably there was a result. My wife noted one of them "looks like a man" so I assume the Glamazon was present or Chyna showed up 3 weeks late to the DX reunion.

CM Punk and John Cena defeat Daniel Bryan and Big Show. Match was your typical main event PPV build crap, Cena and Punk stole each other's finishers, Punk got the majority of the cheers, and Cena refused to shake Punk's hand. Bryan jobbed to no one's surprise and my utter jubilation because I can't stand him.

Christian got the jobber treatment against Damian Sandow much to my disgust. The Funkasaurus was gimping around for a bit. A lot of dudes wearing pink tonight.

Then my wife went to bed and the show suddenly got REALLY good. Paul Heyman came out with Brock Lesnar and cut a fantastic promo. He promised that on Sunday, Lesnar cannot be held responsible for what happens to Hunter, and wants him to sign a waiver allowing the killing machine to do what he does best. He proceeded to goad Shawn Michaels into coming out alone, and tell Lesnar to his face he still thinks Triple H will win. Hunter wasn't far behind to save his buddy, so Lesnar signed the contract and threw it at Hunter in total disrespect. Heat was strong, but we weren't done.

Backstage minutes later, Shawn was leaving the building, but t-boned right into Heyman's car. Thankfully nobody was hurt. BUT THEN ... Lesnar yanked Shawn right out his window, and bumped the camera man so we were left with a blackout and a whole lot of carnage.

Back from commercial, Triple H surveyed the damage wondering where Shawn was. Lesnar was dragging his carcass out to the ring, where he broke his arm and left him for dead. Hard sell the PPV - good job guys!

And that's what I remember. Now your turn.
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"Oh my God, you broke his arm! Oh my God, you broke his arm!"

Paul Heyman and Shawn Michaels are two of the very best performers in the business. Heyman is magnificent on the mic; the combination of him talking and Lesnar smiling and agreeing is perfect. Even despite going to the black screen during the vehicular assault on Shawn. Amazing touch also to have Heyman shocked and appalled that Brock broke Shawn's arm. Poor Shawn had to play the helpless girlfriend/victim role (like Zack Ryder did for Cena against Kane earlier this year) but sold the hell out of it.

What else? Oh, Kaitlyn can beat Beth Phoenix now. Boy, was Beth's face red. They really don't give a crap about Beth Phoenix.

    Originally posted by It's False
    Standard Divas match.


That was not a standard Divas match. That match was like 5 minutes long, five times longer than a standard Divas match. It was almost a complete tag team match. They even did a babyface gets caught in the wrong part of town segment and everything. All that was missing was a hot tag because Kaitlyn ended up not needing Layla tagging in a house of fire at all to win the match for her team.



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Ryback has new music! It's...awful!

Heyman seemed really upset that Lesnar actually went and did it for some reason. I didn't get that, but nobody except me (EDIT: and John above) was listening to him at the end of the show anyway I guess.

It's either telling or just plain lazy that WWE can't find ONE Tout done by a female worthy of broadcast.

DJ Pauly D was tonight's social media ambassador! He'll also DJ the VIP party Sunday! "Yeah buddy!"

What's #RAW without AW? Just #R. :(

I think they replayed Stephanie's chin jutting out and on down the entrance ramp another 500 times tonight.

For more jokes that may not even make sense this soon after air time, check my Twitter feed. (This is not only a shill for my Twitter feed [@CRZ] but a BRILLIANT parody of WWE marketing!)

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    Originally posted by CRZ
    Heyman seemed really upset that Lesnar actually went and did it for some reason. I didn't get that, but nobody except me (EDIT: and John above) was listening to him at the end of the show anyway I guess.


The conclusion I draw is that Heyman, who knows Brock better than any man alive, can be continually frightened of what Brock is capable of. Heyman was even saying "Please don't move another step" to Triple H. It's a great dynamic between Brock and Heyman; Heyman is his mouth piece but he can't control Brock, nor did he ever claim to. He's not like, say, Paul Bearer with the urn controlling vintage Undertaker. Brock will do what he wants and Heyman's man love for Lesnar is fueled by respect, admiration and a healthy amount of fear for his client.

This is why Heyman's stuff is so great. There are layers to what he's doing. It's not all one dimensional, what you see is what you get, nothing going on beneath the surface like most of the rest of the show.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.73
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by CRZ
      Heyman seemed really upset that Lesnar actually went and did it for some reason. I didn't get that, but nobody except me (EDIT: and John above) was listening to him at the end of the show anyway I guess.


    The conclusion I draw is that Heyman, who knows Brock better than any man alive, can be continually frightened of what Brock is capable of.


Yup. Heyman is scared of Brock and acts like everyone should be, which is good since he's the only guy on WWE TV who's sold anything for Lesnar from Extreme Rules until tonight. Paul is also a little shit who puts on the facade of being a gentleman who doesn't want these bad things to happen but clearly does. "I can't believe you broke his arm! ( )"

Christian vs. Sandow is probably the worst booked match of the year.

OMG Ryback's music. The chants for Ryback are faker than the chants for Gillberg.

AJ still sux @ this.

I know Jericho loves to lose, but SummerSlam has gotta be Jericho winning to redeem Y2J, then Ziggler putting him out, then Jericho coming back to challenge Ziggler for the world title. I'll throw in Wade Barrett returning to lay out Sheamus to set up Dolph's cash-in. Ta-da.

oh man the Laybusters
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Also, they snuck in the debut of the Saturday Morning Slam logo. Here's a poor screen grab of it while I wait for an HD screen grab of it (or, perish the thought, WWE or The CW puts the logo online):





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    Originally posted by CRZ
    Also, they snuck in the debut of the Saturday Morning Slam logo. Here's a poor screen grab of it while I wait for an HD screen grab of it (or, perish the thought, WWE or The CW puts the logo online):





Now that's how a logo should look like ...

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Hey Hunter, if your so mad about your best friends arm getting snapped in two, how about actually climbing out of the ring and going after Lesnar who is standing on the entrance ramp smirking at you.

And do you really want Lesnar to climb into the ring to fight you when your friend is lying helpless in the middle of it with a broken arm?

I figured Heyman acted so shocked that Brock broke HBK's arm so that if there are any lawsuits, he can claim he had no idea that Lesnar was going to do that and that he wasn't involved with it in anyway.





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Well, the destruction of HBK finally happened, yet I expect to see him at SummerSlam giving the deciding superkick to Brock. I have no idea what they are trying to do Cena/Punk. They really turned the wrong guy, because Punk is still getting massive pops from the crowd. AJ is just well not good in the role of Eye lash patting cooky smile dancing around boss. I liked AJ who dressed up as Kane and talked into a mirror. Don't ask me why, I just do. I do wish Punk or maybe even Heyman on Monday night tell her that Little girls get hurt in this world. Give the idea that AJ may one day go one step too far and end up getting crushed.

As much as I love Piper, he looked completely lost out there. Jericho/Miz/Ziggler was pretty good. I have to say Jericho/Ziggler is probably one of the few if not the only match I am looking forward too at SummerSlam. I do feel bad for JTG, but again he got airtime on his way to TNA. I can't get into mini-Goldberg and the fans chanting Feed Me just sounds so bad.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.14
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I know Jericho loves to lose, but SummerSlam has gotta be Jericho winning to redeem Y2J, then Ziggler putting him out, then Jericho coming back to challenge Ziggler for the world title. I'll throw in Wade Barrett returning to lay out Sheamus to set up Dolph's cash-in. Ta-da.


I don't know. I think the better move is to put over Ziggler, which is a win which would give him the credibility boost he needs, before he steals his championship. Then you can also push the "Jericho is past his prime" angle a little further as well. Ideally, you'd do something like have Ziggler take the belt at Summerslam and then have Jericho challenge with a title vs. career stipulation.
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The triple-threat match started out slow but became quite good toward the end. The only problem that I have is that they went out of their way to mention, more than once, that it was no-dq, no countout. So why the piss does the ref give two shits that Vickie is on the apron?

Heyman is so far beyond anyone else the company has when it comes to promo work that it is almost laughable. His storytelling, emotion, and BROCK LESNAR give such depth to the promos and keep the focus where it needs to be. On BROCK LESNAR.

Michaels does well conveying fear. Also a nice nod to the final interaction between HBK and HHH before the last fight against The Streak.

It was said earlier, but bears repeating; why are we supposed to cheer Cena again? Punk saved him, extended the hand and got rebuffed. At least Hogan shook Macho's hand.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.81
Hee hee hee! Roddy Piper made a "Hell Comes to Frogtown" reference and everybody no-sold it.

Yeah, three hours of Raw is brutal.
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Random shit I enjoyed:

The announcers trying to claim a "Let's go Cena/Cena Sucks" dueling chant was actually a "Let's go Cena/CM Punk" dueling chant.

HBK's growing frustration with HHH. I think he helps Brock win on Sunday.

Jericho going full Y2J on the mike. Though I could have done without Piper's air-writing of the initials.

Cena's hilarious attempt at Punk's high knee in the corner.

Big Show trying to be "stealthy."

Big Show and Daniel Bryan doing the yes/no argument regarding a tag.

Wondering if Broadus Clay would pull out the Humpty Dance (first I limp to the side like my leg was broken ...)
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.34
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    Though I could have done without Piper's air-writing of the initials.

Yes. He was trying so hard to figure out how to make a "J". I think he did about four versions.


    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    Wondering if Broadus Clay would pull out the Humpty Dance (first I limp to the side like my leg was broken ...)

Yes! He sold the shit out of that leg. But it couldn't keep him from bringing joy to The Universe through his dancing and smiling.
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Sometimes it feels like Daniel Bryan is trying to carry the entire WWE on his brawny yet undersized shoulders. Honestly, I could barely be bothered to pay attention except when he was on. He's on fire and you can tell from the crowd reactions. He's just entertaining in every way.

Heyman's the other all-star for me. Just perfect in his role. He's sort of entertaining me against my will, as I just hate the part-time, guest star nature of Brock's role and have trouble being interested in "special interest" feuds like this, outside of Wrestlemania. I would rather they spent time making their current stars more interesting than peddling nostalgia tour. The match will be good, I expect, but I'm not buying Summerslam and hence I don't care.

Sandow could be another standout for me. Since I don't watch Smackdown, this was the first time I got to see him really wrestle at all, and he seemed solid. Not that a Funkasaurus feud will let me see much of that...

I want to care about Ziggler/Jericho, but just can't seem to. They're not really fighting about much of anything. And, while I was wanting Jericho to make a face turn, the total reversion to pandering, catchphrase Jericho seems really odd and disconcerting.

I'm just done with the Big Show and, to a lesser degree, Cena. I've watched Big Show wrestle for more than fifteen years of my life. He's had good periods, he's had bad periods, but, on the whole...I"m just done with him. I never want to watch him wrestle again. It's not personal, I've just reached my quota. Thank you, I appreciate your service, but please, please, stay away. Having him wrestle Cena pretty much non-stop for the last four months has only exacerbated this burnout.

And yes, I will only be interested in Cena when he turns heel. I'm not suggesting that it will save the business or that it's a good idea. From the WWE's standpoint, they should probably milk the kiddie cash cow until it's dry, especially since he does so much good image and charity work. But, for me, personally...I just can't stand it. It's nothing against John Cena, the guy. He seems like a nice fella. He's a talented and dedicated wrestler. But I'm tired of the status quo. And they're not going to turn him anytime soon. There is no big angle coming soon...if there had been one, it would've been at the 1000th RAW, and the big thing there was Punk sorta, maybe, half-assedly turned heel. Except no one wants to boo him except little kids who already loved Cena better and weren't that into Punk to begin with.

I'm just suffering WWE ennui. And Impact's been a LOT better than RAW recently. It's not even close, at least for me. That's not empiric or measurable. Others may still think Impact's the drizzling shits. I'd disagree and make an impassioned argument otherwise, but, in the end, my treasure may just be your trash.

I'm not giving up on RAW...yet. I've watched it pretty much every week, barring financial or physical impossibility, since 1998 (and Nitro for a couple of years before that). But I'm closer than I've ever been to doing so. I'd say I'm just outgrowing it, but, as I said, I've really been enjoying Impact. But maybe I've just outgrown PG-13, WWE style wrestling. Maybe it's just not for me anymore.



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    Originally posted by It's False
    Finally, Punk collects himself and offers the hand of friendship, which Cena refuses, because he's a dick. Punk angrily storms off.

    Remember, Punk composed himself and decided to be the bigger man and Cena, the supposed babyface of this angle, basically told him to fuck off. Why are we supposed to cheer for Cena again?


    Originally posted by Stefonics
    It was said earlier, but bears repeating; why are we supposed to cheer Cena again? Punk saved him, extended the hand and got rebuffed. At least Hogan shook Macho's hand.


I know, it's not like guys have used the handshake as a ruse to pull someone in to attack them over and over and over in the past. No need to be wary about anything!

(edited by Spaceman Spiff on 14.8.12 1314)


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I think the camera work was off, but Cena was also supposed to turn around to see Punk holding the belt like he was about to blast him with it too.
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Too many recaps. (On the show, not in the thread).

In all three post-1000 three hour shows, I've hit the wall at pretty much the exact same time, around 10:15, regardless of what was going on at that time. In fact, I liked the tag match that was happening at the time this week, but that two-hour and fifteen minute mark seems to be the saturation point for me, which isn't surprising since that's just over the average "big overrun" show length.

But all the in-show recaps are insufferable, regardless of the show's overall length. They shouldn't be taking the one thing they've always done well - recap pacakges - and making them the tipping point. There has to be a better way to fill in first hour skippers...at the very least, don't put any recaps (barring the opening "previously on" bit) in hour one at all to throw the three hour viewers a bone. A first hour that's 30% recaps of last week followed by a second hour that's 30% recaps of last week AND hour one is unbearable.

Tensai should beat up Sakamoto more, right? Maybe like, 10 or 20 more weeks of that?

Any word yet on what Christian and Cody did to get the treatment they've gotten lately? Sandow has grown on me, and there's the hint of a really good gimmick (crazy, violent hobo pretending to be an intellectual...or immortal cannibal caveman pretending to be an intellectual, I'd be good with either of them), and a Sandow/Christian feud isn't a bad idea, but not like this and not without letting Christian get something in. This just makes him look awful without really helping Sandow.

Striker's "Excuse me, Big Show, but stop talking because an important angle is going on around the corner!" was a perfect summation of the last 45 minutes being almost all HHH/Brock build-up vs. WWE title build-up.

    Originally posted by Kevintripod
    I figured Heyman acted so shocked that Brock broke HBK's arm so that if there are any lawsuits, he can claim he had no idea that Lesnar was going to do that and that he wasn't involved with it in anyway.
Yeah, I think this is it. Not that Heyman is genuinely afraid of Brock - he did turn on him once for, after all - but that he and Brock know exactly what crazy stuff Brock is going to do, but Heyman plays the "Don't blame me, I didn't do it!" card so he can continue to the the legal face of Brock Lesner Enterprises. Agreed, in any case, that Heyman has been the best guy on the mic, regardless of slotting, since he came back. Guy's a true pro, and they should be studying him intently to remind themselves what a good manager is capable of doing for a wrestler and their angles. Why isn't Heyman GM-by-way-of-lawsuit, again?
    Originally posted by Super 7-Up
    Hee hee hee! Roddy Piper made a "Hell Comes to Frogtown" reference and everybody no-sold it.
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    Originally posted by Stefonics
    Yes. He was trying so hard to figure out how to make a "J". I think he did about four versions.
I love Piper, I really do, but I was pretty uncomfortable throughout that segment. Having him list off what Jericho, Ziggler and Miz were up to in the back before the vote felt like them having him prove he knew who they were, and the multiple "movie with frogs" reference and weird, failed (though admirable) attempts to get a "Y2J" chant going made me cringe a little. I'd feel worse if he wasn't actually very good a few months ago during that segment where he tried to get Cena to embrace hate, but this felt like a bad use of him. Piper's the grand shit disturber in wrestling history, so there's probably a good way to get use out of him by having him interact with one of Jericho, Ziggler or Miz, but not all three at once.


Highlight of the night: At first, I thought it was the crowd going all-in on Punk doing Cena's moves, but in the end, it was the all-too-brief "PINK SHIRT! PINK SHIRT! PINK SHIRT!" chant when HHH and Brock were in the ring. (To be fair, that was a nice shirt and HHH pulled it off well. But it was still a great chant.)

90% of HBK's murder happening off-screen (minus #Raw hashtag) did not make up for weeks and weeks of this stuff. Unless the payoff is that, just like last time, the guy who put Michaels through a car windshield in a parking lott off camera was actually HHH again. But HBK's post-retirement transformation into HHH's own personal Adrian Balboa is not flattering and no longer compelling (even though, to his credit, Michaels does a pretty damn good job of selling "guy who is retired and can't fight anymore" in his body language).

2014: "Shawn, I know you don't think I can beat The Ryback, but..." "I ain't sayin' you can't beat him, Hunter. I'm just sayin'...I'm just sayin'..." (Cut to recap of Ryback clotheslining HHH in slow motion followed by HHH taking off his shirt to stare down Ryback also in slow motion.)

2016: "Shawn, if there's one man in the world I respect about my chances against Brodie Lee, it's you, because you and me, we're from a different era. But are you saying I can't beat him?" "Hunter, I love you, you're the greatest of all time except me (winks to camera) and maybe the Undertaker if he's still wrestling in this, the year 2016, but...no I'm not saying you can't beat Brodie Lee, but I am saying...no, I don't think you can beat him. But I'll still be in your corner. But blindfolded, because I can't watch you lose, which I'm not saying you will, but you will."
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In squeaky wheel and kismet news, if I understood Meltzer right, there was actually a pitch for JTG to replace AW as O'Neil and Young's manager, but Vince is down on managers again. My dream of a triple threat 9-person tag with PTPs & AW vs. Colons & Rosa vs. R-Boom & Lil Jimmy is waning.

    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    Highlight of the night


Can I nominate the short but sweet "I TOLD YA I WAS GONNA GETCHA" by Brock Lesnar.


    But I'll still be in your corner. But blindfolded, because I can't watch you lose, which I'm not saying you will, but you will."


plus Aksana poked out my eyes during the Hunter/Cesaro wars of 2015.
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We can put Lex on a bus, and put the family McMahon with future son in law on board as well, because, well, Lex is nowhere near the name that HHH is. Then, we leave them all in the middle of Detroit.
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