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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.53
FOOTAGE! of MLK and the "I have a dream" speach.

Coach, in blue silk shirt, black slacks, and backwards black hat, addresses Raw's Rumble entrants. Jericho wants to cash-in his Survivor Series favor to get the #30 spot. But Coach declairs that, as tonight's GM, he has booked a series of matches - the winners will advance into a battle-royal, and the winner of that will get the #30 spot.

Fighting evil by moonlight, winning love by daylight, never running from a real fight, because it is time to WAKE UP! It's Raw, live from ass-kicking Green Bay, Wisconsin (which kicks ass)...and a Fashion Report, too! Oh, Closed-Captioning, my newest arch-nemesis. If this program is on a second-delay, you'd think they could at least have a halfway decent CC.

Rob, in black "RVD" ying-yang singlet, and BookerT, in black hot-crotch undies with flamin "BookerT", to his new music, with FOOTAGE! of Kane destroying him last week, vs. Christian!, in blue tights with black "C"s on white crests, and Mattitude, in red/black open shirt and pants with red pockets, using his full entrance. Jack Doan officiates, in the black/white stripes and black pants. The heels focus on Booker's neck. Five-Star -> pin on Hardy. A nice match.

Coach joins Lawler, in gold sparkly shirt with black/white stripes, and JR, in black hat, black sportscoat and yellow shirt, on commentary.

Jericho, in purple tights with white barbedwire, vs. Rene, in blue "La Resistance" undies, carrying the French flag. Hebner is the referee. The crowd is solidly behind a face Jericho. Walls of Jericho -> submission. A nice match.

Friends of Orton ad.

In his locker room, Jericho is congratulated by Christian. Christian wants Jericho to use his favor to get Christian into the battle royal. Jericho refuses; Christian seems dismayed.

Here's a video package to hype HHH vs. Shawn.

Mark Henry, in red "Mark Henry" singlet with gold trim, with Teddy, in white suit with black checker-stripes, vs. Rico, in black/turquoise singlet, with Jackie, in yellow/pink bodysuit. Charles Robinson is the ref. Rico does his funny spots, which I actually think are funny this week. Slam -> pin. An average match.

In Evolution's locker room, Randy and Batista read Raw Magazine, when Flair comes in. Flair rants about how successful Evolution will be at the Rumble. Randy has grandoise dreams of winning the Rumble and facing HHH at WrestleMania.

Kane, under the towel, in black tights with red stripes, vs. Spike, in black sleeveless tshirt and black/white camo pants. Spike bumps the referee, but the ref assumes it was Kane shoving him, so Kane is DQ'ed. A bad match. Post-match, Kane tries to dismember Spike, but Spike is pulled out of harm's way by a cadre of officials.

FOOTAGE! of the weekend's house shows. Crap, I probably should've gone to one of them.

Steiner, in black "Freakzilla" tights with belt-flames and chainmail coif, vs. Test, in black undies with red arcing hip flames, vs. Goldberg, in black fullcut undies with white trim and barbedwire butt. Goldberg's beard is still full. Mike Chioda is the official. Test and Steiner cooperate, until it comes time to attempt to pin Goldberg, at chich point it becomes every man for himself. Spear, jackhammer, pin on Test. Average match.

A NEW Friends of Orton ad. In the back, we see Austin watching the monitor. Pausing to consider his course of action, he roars off on his four-wheeler, nearly running-over Jindrak and Cade, who were walking in the back.

Recall when Butterbean kicks Bart Gunn's ass, from Wrestlemania XV.

Austin, in black sleeveless "F0CK FEAR" tshirt, jean shorts, and kneebraces, riding his four-wheeler to the ring (he can make the steps move, too!), is out to to pose on the turnbuckles. Austin runs-down Foley, and then ORDERS (the audacity!) Mick to show up at the Rumble. "Your son of a bitchin ass"? Then Austin drinks many beers.

In the back, Trish and Molly finish a converstaion. Molly leaves, and Christian comes in to show some pictures to Trish (Christian, now jealous, wants to hurt the one he loves). Trish looks downcast.

Lita, in pink tanktop and black hotpants, vs. Jazz, in leopard-print bra and skirt, with Teddy. Jack Doan is the referee. Teddy distracts, allowing Jazz to get a rollup. This looked sloppy. A poor match.

In the back, Terri talks to Hurricane. Hurricane believes in his ability to win vs. Randy, to win the battle royal, and to win the Royal Rumble.

Mick/Randy/RVD FOOTAGE!

Randy, in black "Orton" undies with hip scrawl, wearing the IC Title, vs. Hurricane, in black/green "H" suit, mask, and black/sparkly green "H" cape. Charles Robinson is the official. Orton comes out really intense. Hurricane rallies and gets a few near-falls. "TWO!" Out of nowhere, RKO -> pin. A poor (really short) match. Post-match, Flair and Batista come out to celebrate, while Rosie comes out to check on Hurricane. Batista lays-out Rosey. This brings out the Dudleys, who level Flair/Batista - thy go for a table, but Flair is pulled-out. Instead, Coach, who tried to avert any table-related shenanigans, goes through the table.

In the back, Jericho makes fun of Mark Henry, who retorts by saying he's gonna leave his "stank" all over Trish.

Cole and Tazz list the Smackdown! half of the Royal Rumble. Then JR and Lawler run-down the Raw half of the card.

Lillian, in white midriff-baring tanktop and blue denim skirt with red "#18" patch, announces the battle royal rules and participants. RVD, Jericho, Adbreak (adbreak?)

Battle royal, cont. RVD, Jericho, Mark Henry, BookerT, Randy, and Goldberg, all wear the same as they wore before. Order of elimination is: RVD, BookerT, Ha - Goldberg botched an Irish whip! Jericho, Mark Henry, and Randy Orton follow.

Overall: I must commend my fellow Wisconsinites for being a very lively crowd all show long; that helped lots. It was a good show, with plenty of in-ring action and backstage segments that helped to set-up matches for tonight and Sunday.

But why no Shawn/HHH? I don't know if a video segment is enough.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.64
Oh well. So much for Goldberg winning the Rumble and going on to face Lesnar at Mania....



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.86
Wrestling fans across North America heard Coach lay out the program for the 30th spot in the Rumble and collectively shouted “They’re going to have HOW many matches tonight?!?”

I really enjoyed the show this evening. The focus around the 30th spot was well done and made for a match intensive show. I just love Orton. That last "Friends of Orton" ad was off the chart. Christian with Trish was gold. “I forgot about the midgets!”

Terri had a real Barbra Streisand in “What’s Up Doc” vibe going during that Hurricane interview.

Is Rico riding Mark Henry really the message you want to put out on Martin Luther King day?

Wouldn't it actually make sense that wrestlers spend their off-camera time cutting promos on each other (like Molly was to Trish) as well?

Good show.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.78
I dug the show tonight. I guess a hot crowd, a good heel commentator, and some unique matchups did the trick for me. The highlight had to be that sweet axe kick that Booker did to Hardy and christian. Lowlight was Randy Orton being shoved down our throats in about 45 different ways.



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This was a good little Raw. Nothing major happened, but it was a nice show. It made my mother (who hasn't seriously watched in 20 years) sit down and pay attention.

She said that Rene Dupree looked "oafish."



    Originally posted by CRZ on January 4, 2001
    Somebody should remind Jericho that Y2K is over and he risks dating himself.


    Originally posted by CRZ on December 24, 2001
    Look, it's almost 2002 - is there ANY chance we'll see the "Y2J" moniker fall by the wayside ANY time soon?
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.23
The chorus of groans that Rob Van Dam and Booker T's early eliminations got from the crowd show how much WWE is concerned about giving the fans what they truly want. MORE MARK HENRY, BABY!!!

Oh, and Christian was fucking brilliant tonight. He actually did something no other man in wrestling has been able to do. And that's make me laugh at a midget joke. Kudos!

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.39
Lawler even introducing the thought of Henry being the favorite to win the Rumble, and setting up Mark Henry vs Triple H as the main event of Wrestlemania 20 was just...awesome. A match like that would be so epicly horrendous, it would rule.

Hurricane sort of dedicating his match to MLK and then jobbing cleanly to Randy Orton within minutes was gold. I can't wait until Angle's dedication to the troops sends him over the top rope within seconds of entering.

Difference between Smackdown and Raw: SD has a battle royal, and internet favorites Benoit, Guerrero, Benjamin and Cena are the last four men. Raw has a battle royal, and we get Henry, Goldberg, and Orton among the last four. However, in terms of making the internet fans happy, I was marking out like a mofo when Goldberg got bitched out by the glass-ceiling favorites Booker T, RVD, and Jericho.

No HBK. No Triple H. No Bischoff. Little Austin. Normally, I would love it. But it dawned on me that Triple H has dicked over the careers of so many guys on the Raw roster that I just can't take Booker, RVD, or Kane as serious threats ever again. And to think how much mileage WWE would have gotten from them, but lost simply to inflate the ego of ONE man?
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
Best RAW in a while. The crowd was totally into the show tonight. Let's stay in Wisconsin another month or so. They rocked tonight.

MVP of the show is Christian. He was awesome in his match, but ruled all in his backstage skits. Give this man a push to the IC Title. I'm tired of Orton all ready.

Speaking of Orton, I can't wait to see if he's punished by HHH for his little speech tonight. While I'm growing a wee bit annoyed by the amount of time they spend on the kid, seeing him get his ass whupped by Mick Foley will be great.

The only thing that bothered me was the womens match. It didn't do too much to throw off the show, but I could have done without it easily. For all the amazing things she's done, can't think of one right now, but Lita is the new Jeff Hardy-- sloppy and all. Get her ass back into training before she breaks a neck and not her own this time. Yeah, she's a looker and get the crowd to pop for her, but she adds nothing to that division.

Anywhoo... great show tonight. Face Jericho is cool. Can't wait for the Rumble.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.71
Raw Thoughts:

This RAW did nothing for me. Of course, at least the matches had some significance for once....I'm surprised Vince does the MLK tribute every year. A nice touch, though...Why has Bischoff missed the two RAW's in the past month, giving Teddy and Coach the slot?....Mattitude does the job? Well, I like 3 of the 4 guys in this match, so whoever won was okay with me....I'd like to see more Dupree in singles matches. He's a FANCY BOY~!....Another classic Orton commercial....Nice Trips/HBK video package, giving both the night off....Henry v.s Rico was quick enough, I suppose. Surprised to see Rico in the Rumble at all. No Steven Richards or Val Venis?....Kane v.s Spike was, well, there. If you ever want to get a big dominating monster over, feed Spike to him....

Thankfully, someone decided that we didn't deserve a Steiner/Goldberg singles match.....Nice cameo by the Green Monkeys. They were still wearing their tights from their Heat match?....MIDGETS=RATINGS. It's a good thing Christian knows that....Austin's weekly interview time was nothing special....The women's match was forgettable too, and have I mentioned how much they are overusing the "heel rollup with the tights?"....Nice Hurricane interview. Almost made me thought an upset was in the works. Almost....Decent match Orton/Hurricane, and the requisite Dudleyz table-bashing....Two of the most popular wrestlers are the first two out of the Battle Royal. (ala Seinfeld) That's a shame....



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.08
    Originally posted by gugs
    This was a good little Raw. Nothing major happened, but it was a nice show. It made my mother (who hasn't seriously watched in 20 years) sit down and pay attention.

    She said that Rene Dupree looked "oafish."


Damn! since the beginning i think that the creation of La REsistance as a patriotic Bullshit will be some kind of stupid american joke like Mr America... and that will be put away shortly... but after months of the conflict against France the Dupree guys are still around... i dont know what you think about that patriotic stuff and all, i want to think that all of the guys in the board knows that the creation of that characters was part of a media campaign to make americans belive that Bush was right doing ...well... the horrible things he did..

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  • I dont know why i came to this, but i just wanted to express my point about that stupid characters...

    I agree, i think that Goldberg or Benoit will be my picks to win the rumble....


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    #11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    This show kinda ruled....a lot. (TM CRZ)

    There was an near-endless bounty of matches that I actually cared about. Rene was rocking it with Jericho, and even did a modified Coude de People's with his little dance. As far as Mark Henry goes, you all can just sit here and cry because I LIKE HIM. Also, how about Test living up to his boyhood dream of playing Kevin Nash in the classic re-tellment of a Monday Nitro match. By the way, congrats to Spike for being a genius. Was that Fonzie in the ring?

    In closing...tonight we learned how much of an influence DDP had on the sport. Hurricane stole his smile, Randy stole his finisher, and Mark stole his stank.
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    #12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.22
    I've been gone for over a month and I only have a few thoughts....

    fist, TICAMO, jesus... your comment about HHH punishing Orton for his comments is just fucking asinine. I can't stand all the whiners that blame HHH for everything. I am really starting to agree with him about the whole 12 year olds on the internet statements he makes.

    2nd..I really really enjoy the Randy Orton paid advertising ads. Classic.

    3rd. Fucking Goldberg screws up an irishwip, nice job.

    4th Coach wasn't as annoying this week, but still he needs to get the 'F out.

    Lastly.... hmm, last year Jericho wanted to be NO.1 in the Rumble, this year he wants NO.30. Hmmm...



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    #13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
      Originally posted by ShotGunShep
      fist, TICAMO, jesus... your comment about HHH punishing Orton for his comments is just fucking asinine. I can't stand all the whiners that blame HHH for everything. I am really starting to agree with him about the whole 12 year olds on the internet statements he makes.


    He was speaking, I believe, in storyline terms. Triple H is the World Heavyweight Champion, Randy Orton is in his stable. As such, Randy should not be saying that he wants to fight for the World Heavyweight Championship, as it is held by the leader of his stable.



      Originally posted by CRZ on January 4, 2001
      Somebody should remind Jericho that Y2K is over and he risks dating himself.


      Originally posted by CRZ on December 24, 2001
      Look, it's almost 2002 - is there ANY chance we'll see the "Y2J" moniker fall by the wayside ANY time soon?
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    #14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
    Rene Dupree is in the freaking Royal Rumble? Good lord. Val Venis, Lance Storm, Stevie Richards and Rob Conway are weeping somewhere in agony.



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    #15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.22
      Originally posted by gugs
        Originally posted by ShotGunShep
        fist, TICAMO, jesus... your comment about HHH punishing Orton for his comments is just fucking asinine. I can't stand all the whiners that blame HHH for everything. I am really starting to agree with him about the whole 12 year olds on the internet statements he makes.


      He was speaking, I believe, in storyline terms. Triple H is the World Heavyweight Champion, Randy Orton is in his stable. As such, Randy should not be saying that he wants to fight for the World Heavyweight Championship, as it is held by the leader of his stable.


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    #16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.58
      Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
      In closing...tonight we learned how much of an influence DDP had on the sport. Hurricane stole his smile, Randy stole his finisher, and Mark stole his stank.

    ...and Austin gave him a shout-out during his promo. It was DDP Appreciation Night!

      Originally posted by Big Bad
      Rene Dupree is in the freaking Royal Rumble? Good lord. Val Venis, Lance Storm, Stevie Richards and Rob Conway are weeping somewhere in agony.

    While I do feel for the other three (especially the Heat GM), Dupree does have seniority over Conway...at least in storyline terms.



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    #17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.87
    I honestly think some people just aren't compatible with wrestling. Lita is one of them. GET HER OUT OF THE RING.

    Uh, that's about all I have.



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    #18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.16
      Originally posted by gugs
      This was a good little Raw. Nothing major happened, but it was a nice show. It made my mother (who hasn't seriously watched in 20 years) sit down and pay attention.


    i'm just impressed that your mom's watched as far back as 20 years ago.

      Originally posted by SchippeWreck
        Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
        In closing...tonight we learned how much of an influence DDP had on the sport. Hurricane stole his smile, Randy stole his finisher, and Mark stole his stank.

      ...and Austin gave him a shout-out during his promo. It was DDP Appreciation Night!


    i think i might've missed that shout out. or was it more like austin lifted a line from ddp?

    (edited by Jericholic53 on 20.1.04 0009)


    it says so right here in the wcw handbook!
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    #19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
      Originally posted by Jericholic53
        Originally posted by gugs
        This was a good little Raw. Nothing major happened, but it was a nice show. It made my mother (who hasn't seriously watched in 20 years) sit down and pay attention.


      i'm just impressed that your mom's watched as far back as 20 years ago


    She has fond memories of standing on a chair during a Snuka/Moraco match at the old Boston Garden and yelling "Kill him! Kill him!"

      Originally posted by Jerichoholic53
      Or was it more like austin lifted a line from ddp?


    Austin said that he and Foley used to rib DDP until he cracked.



      Originally posted by CRZ on January 4, 2001
      Somebody should remind Jericho that Y2K is over and he risks dating himself.


      Originally posted by CRZ on December 24, 2001
      Look, it's almost 2002 - is there ANY chance we'll see the "Y2J" moniker fall by the wayside ANY time soon?
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    #20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.04
    Man, it shows just how old and tired I'm getting when RAW is in town for the first time since 1997, 15 minutes from my house, and I fall asleep on my couch before the main. Damn. I think I spotted a few ACW-NWA WI fans in the crowd, though. But no cheeseheads?

    Austin confirming some of the DDP stories Foley told in Have a Nice Day during a promo about Foley...awesome.

    And how 'bout a little love for Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila and Gilbert "No-Selling a Torn F'n Bicep All Damn Season" Brown showing off their guns at ringside?





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