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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
I think Alexis has the right idea -- she's trying to make herself as distinct from the others as possible, as opposed to all those interchangeable perky blondes. It's not a bad strategy. After all, Christy rode the "crazy girl who'll say and do anything" schtick to victory. And I'm talking about Divasearch strategy, so someone shoot me.

'Course, there isn't much else to talk about after tonight's show, beyond the swellness of Angle/Flair. I flipped over to Futurama when Hogan came out. I was hoping for Rocky too, although I'd happily have settled for Jannetty.

No Shelton Benjamin? I shall be deeply pissed if he turns out to be a casualty of the draft lottery -- pushed down by all the upper-carders coming over.





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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.53
Angle/Flair was...well, it was hard to watch. I guess if you're a Flair mark you can blind yourself to that discomfort, but I just shuddered watching that thing. Seeing Flair take a suplex and a backdrop on the floor? I just couldn't shake the thought that he is too old to be doing that kinda of thing, by about a decade. Sure, it was more engaging to watch than most of Flair's recent matches where no one really does anything and it's all very fakey and low-impact, but I wonder if trying to keep up with Angle was a mistake for him. I also wonder if, having read his book and seen his numerous attacks on Hogan, he wanted to prove his superiority and outperform him in a stellar match, while Hogan went through the motions again. Whatever the thinking behind it was, my heart was in my throat when Flair almost fell to the floor, and he still hit pretty damn hard. I was just too afraid for Flair's life to enjoy the match very much. Maybe I'm alone in that, but there it is.

I didn't have any problem with the psychology of the match itself. Flair's rampant cheating was the right course to take, it shouldn't be implied that he can hang with Angle at this point in time. You can make the same argument about Hogan later, but he pinned Tomko, who is completely useless when not making facial expressions. It's not like he went over Jericho or Christian, which would have been hella dumb. So Flair scratching and clawing to get to Angle was fine. But what was the ref supposed to be doing anyway? It's not like he didn't see all of it.

But really, it was just Flair taking those kinds of bumps that ruined it for me. He just doesn't belong in the ring, at least not in that kind of match.

The rest of the show was quite good. Nice to see some fire in RVD. Cena should have stayed in the ring, whether he wanted to or not. And he should have saved Hogan from some kind of disaster. It should have been about showing then and now. They really dropped the ball here.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.80
Looks like Hogan's return wasn't a one-timer:
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/494606/494612/carlitoexclusive

I seriously doubt Hogan's ego would allow for getting spit on with an apple.



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#24 Posted on
I think the logical person to break the Master Lock would be The Big Show.
I wonder if Triple H could beat the Big Show. I just can't picture Triple H being able to do the Pedigree to The Big Show.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.35


ha! what the hell is Carlito doing at the end of that video? that had me cracking up.

Guess Hogan's probably gonna plug his show, maybe Carlito will eat a legdrop. He does get the crowd going though.

I was thinking Big Show vs. Masters also. it'd be like Show-Morgan II



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.71
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    My biggest "FUCK YOU, WWE!" moment of the night was when Tajiri couldn't break the Masterlock. Oh, please give me a fuckin' break. Tajiri's a multi-time WCW and WWE Cruiserweight Champion, multi-time WWE and ECW Tag Team Champion, former WCW U.S. Heavyweight Champion, former Hardcore Champion, former ECW World Television Champion, and one of the most entertaining wrestlers, in my opinion, in WWE. And he can't break a goddamn full nelson? Fuck that. Any other midcarders whose reputation you wanna ruin, WWE? Or is it gonna be Kurt Angle in four months?


You actually thought that after weeks and weeks of build-up of the "Masterlock Challenge" by the WWE writers, the big payoff ending was going to be Tajiri breaking the hold ?

I was expecting Big Show to come back out for the challenge, but the masterlock moment became a bathroom break for me when I saw that it was Tajiri. I'm guessing Big Show ends the Masterlock Challenge next week.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.72
It's fun to see Hogan and all, but is nostalgia really nostalgia if it happens all the time?
He just came back for Wrestlemania and Backlash, appeared at Wrestlemania 19 and 18 and did the whole Mr. America thing. It seems he shows up, gets his cheers, does his schtick, leaves for weeks or months and then shows up and does it again.
They seem to be doing this with Austin. He appears, goes away, appears again.
You want to surprise me? Bring back Randy Savage or Bret Hart.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.10
    Originally posted by wolvesslasher
    I think the logical person to break the Master Lock would be The Big Show.
    I wonder if Triple H could beat the Big Show. I just can't picture Triple H being able to do the Pedigree to The Big Show.


Throw your mind back to the glory days of the McMahon-Helmsley "Facgime." Hunter altered the match rules to take the belt off Big Show.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
The key element to Flair/Angle was that the two had chemistry in the ring together. Was it a classic match for either? No. However, it does make you wonder how great a Flair '89 vs. Angle '01 match could have been. Also, as long as Trip's not around, Flair has reached the point where he could commit a triple homicide backstage and still the crowd will cheer him. Hopefully, Flair retires off of that match, as that probably is the highest level he can get to anymore.
Less than three months for the One More Match to turn into Two More Matches for Hogan. However, when you go through the names mentioned backstage outside of Marty Jannetty, Hogan was the most stomachable. And, the always possible Michaels chooses Trip as his partner and beatdown on Cena to move Trip into a new title feud was quietly lurking in the back of my mind.
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.69
I don't care what people say, I still mark out when Hogan comes out. I loved the Main Event.

I think they should have left injured wrestlers out of the draft, though. When are RVD and Orton scheduled to return?

No Shelton tonight. Interesting.

Speaking of the Master Lock, I'm surprized a lawsuit hasn't been started by the Masterlock company. (masterlock.com)...unless the 'E bought the rights to use the name.





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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.16

I really enjoyed the show tonight ... Glad I wasn't alone when I thought of the Rock as well.

Though Jericho had the line of the night with his knock on Kevin Nash, I thought Kurt Angle had the runner-up with his line about Triple H coming out & babbling for 20 minutes while Flair stands behind him & smiles.

WWE.com is promoting Hogan as Carlito's guest in the Cabana next week.





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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.32
I also liked HBK's "You're doing spectacular." at the end of the end of the segment with him, Cena, and the ditzy announcer chick (who SMOKES all of the diva wannabes, IMO).

I loved Angle-Flair. I loved the Cabana. I loved Masters-Tajiri. I think Carlito and Masters are going to be huge stars if they don't screw up.

I also liked the Kane-Lita locker room segment, although I'm not happy with myself for liking it.





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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.67
I wonder why the WWE made no mention of Hogan's VH1 show? I figured for sure that he'd stipulate that the announce team needs to make about a million plugs for his show a condition of appearing in the ring...



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by rv581
    I wonder why the WWE made no mention of Hogan's VH1 show? I figured for sure that he'd stipulate that the announce team needs to make about a million plugs for his show a condition of appearing in the ring...

I believe I heard/read they'll be plugging it next week.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.91
I’ve been enjoying RAW for the past few weeks and I owe that to staying away from wrestling sites and this message board, for a while anyway. I didn’t think that I would enjoyed it this much and was hoping that others would feel the same about it too… But, as always, there are your few who gripe. So, to free myself of those vibes and spoilers that sometimes ruin each show for me, I stayed away. I got a great payoff for it too.

Last night’s RAW was great, from the non-internet savvy, just a fan point of view. Sure, there were only three matches, but the show was still enjoyable. My highlights were:

Flair Vs. Angle – Two of the best pro-wrestlers of all time, getting dirty and nasty… It was brutal and vicious. It was a little hard to watch. It was simply marvelous.

Jericho/Christian/Tomko – Anytime Jericho and Christian are together, I love it. Adding Tomko to the mix was nice and yes, the Kevin Nash rib was funny as hell.

Hogan – I never really was a huge fan of his, but when he walks into the arena, there is just something that takes over and you can’t help but smile when you see him. It was nice to see him, even if it’s just to promote his VH-1 show.

John Cena is really thriving on RAW and I’m glad for that. When he first was drafted over, I screamed like a school girl, I admit. I was truly surprised and seeing him each Monday is great. His interview with Stupid Blonde was pretty funny, even better when HBK came in.

RVD and Carlito was good. It was nice to give the casual WWE fans that side of RVD. Maybe kicking RVD in the knee will give Carlito some kind of heat because the crowd haven't been good to him.

I hope they start to make sense of this Lita/Kane/Edge thing because it's getting a little boring. Chris Masters is boring me too.

The only really low point came in the form of Diva Search 2005. The only redeeming value it had was that I was able to load the dishwasher, put away my leftovers and tinkle in those 16 minutes. I think it was 16 minutes anyway. Who cares to know them individually when 6 of the 8 women will end up working for the WWE any damn way?




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Hillary Flammond- I know. It all sounds like some bad movie.

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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.60
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    My biggest "FUCK YOU, WWE!" moment of the night was when Tajiri couldn't break the Masterlock. Oh, please give me a fuckin' break. Tajiri's a multi-time WCW and WWE Cruiserweight Champion, multi-time WWE and ECW Tag Team Champion, former WCW U.S. Heavyweight Champion, former Hardcore Champion, former ECW World Television Champion, and one of the most entertaining wrestlers, in my opinion, in WWE. And he can't break a goddamn full nelson? Fuck that. The Green Mist went a little way towards repairing that in my mind, but it wasn't nearly enough. Any other midcarders whose reputation you wanna ruin, WWE?


OK - hang on. I love Tajiri as much as anyone, but give me a break - why on earth should he break the Masterlock?? It's not "just a full-nelson" as many jaded-internet types would have you believe - it's a full nelson applied by an EXTREMELY strong person. That's the crucial detail a lot of people on the internet seem to overlook. For as perceptive and analytical as a lot of us pretend to be, we sure seem to miss some pretty basic concepts. I'm not sure what the heck Tajiri's cruiserweight titles have to do with anything here. Masters is not a cruiser. Val Venis is a former Intercontinental Champion - AND much, *much* stronger than Tajiri. Why weren't you outraged when HE didn't break the Masterlock? Oh that's right, because you're not as big a fan of Val Venis . . . makes perfect sense. I guess.

And WWE ruined Tajiri's reputation a LONG time ago. :-P






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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.34
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by rv581
      I wonder why the WWE made no mention of Hogan's VH1 show? I figured for sure that he'd stipulate that the announce team needs to make about a million plugs for his show a condition of appearing in the ring...

    I believe I heard/read they'll be plugging it next week.


WWE.com has a promo video with Carlito saying next week on RAW, Hogan would be his guest on Carlito’s Cabana, so yea I guess they will do it next week.



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.71
(From www.PWTorch.com)

Raw drew a 4.4 rating, well above the recent average. Those who enjoy the Diva Search will be pleased to learn that it was the highest rated segment of the show drawing a 4.7 rating, a tie with the overrun featuring Hulk Hogan & Shawn Michaels & John Cena vs. Tyson Tomko & Christian & Chris Jericho. The lowest rated quarter hour was 3.7.




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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I'm surprised Hogan got the legdrop down after avoiding it last run. Shawn Michaels better get used to wearing that bandana, by the looks of his hairline, he'll be needing it by Survivor Series. I hope Marty isn't really in jail, he had a pretty good match with Angle a few months ago and actually showed up Shawn during that Rockers reunion (where Marty nailed the nip up and Michaels lost his balance). That Tajiri mark on here is pretty funny, naming off Tajiri's title accomplishments as if they meant anything. I like Tajiri as much as the next guy, but I aint jacking off about it like Sandman at ONS. That asian diva is kinda has a butterface, she looks like a cross between Gail Kim and Rodney Mack. Did anyone catch that sign in the crowd that said "Batista is Filipino"? I always thought he looked half cardassian.
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.52
    Originally posted by Kevintripod
    (From www.PWTorch.com)

    Raw drew a 4.4 rating, well above the recent average. Those who enjoy the Diva Search will be pleased to learn that it was the highest rated segment of the show drawing a 4.7 rating, a tie with the overrun featuring Hulk Hogan & Shawn Michaels & John Cena vs. Tyson Tomko & Christian & Chris Jericho. The lowest rated quarter hour was 3.7.


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