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I watched NWA-TNA last Wednesday and I was disappointed AJ Styles won the NWA World Heavyweight Title.

Why, you ask? I know I will get harassed for making this post. To me, Styles is still a kid. He can't carry the title with credibility like other worthy contenders such as Raven (if he had a contract) or even Ron "The Truth" Killings. To me, to be worthy to hold the World title, he has to have name value. I can only associate AJ Styles with indy feds. That's not a bad thing, but he doesn't have a strong enough resume to be the NWA Champ IMHO.

It *would* be a wise move to put the title on Styles a year from now only if he gained weight. He isn't even a heavyweight.

His only in-ring strength from what I've seen is his high-flying ability. His manuevers are phenomenal, but he has no psychology or any mat skills to accompany his high-flying arsenal. Owen Hart, Shawn Michaels, and Ricky Steamboat are prominent names in wrestling history because they were good on the mat AND in the air.

To me, Styles is just another athletic 20-something wrestler with no know-how to wrestle a match and can only do high spots.



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How is a wrestler supposed to ever have "name value" or be somebody if he doesn't win a few titles along the way?
The fact that a non-heavyweight won the NWA title shows how different they are from the competition. That topic gets beaten to death but it is the truth. Rarely will you see someone of his size win the big gold belt(s) in the WWF. I'm not jumping down your throat or anything, I just think its a needed change to shake things up like that every now and then and give the fans something unexpected.



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I'm very impressed with A. J. Styles and like the fact that he's in the main event pic because I think he really helps the match quality. That said, he hasn't been a national figure for very long at all, a featured player for only a couple of months.

By name value and by his look, A. J. Styles is still very indy. He looks like a junior Shane Helms. The question has to be whether TNA wants to be the best of the independent groups of a strong national group. If it's the former, Styles is a great champion. He's a great wrestler and he's young, so he's only going to get better. If it's the latter, though, I don't think the general wrestling public is ready to accept A. J. Styles as the world champion. But if TNA has decided to accept a niche as the leading indy fed, then by all means, Styles is a great worker, and as one of the biggest names on the circuit he's a great fit.

To be honest, though, I have to agree that Raven should have been the guy to get the title last Wednesday. His ECW (and to a lesser extent, WCW) reputation overrides his forgettable WWF run and he's proven as a guy to base the company around. His character not only has more depth than either Styles or Jarrett, but it's also one that can be extended to include others as they did with the Flock in WCW.

I also think the impending Raven vs. Shane Douglas feud would have a little more intrigue if it included the world title. This would allow them to work in the 1994 Douglas/NWA incident, which if correctly handled could actually, nearly ten years later, be turned around and used to improve the image of the championship. Then again, with Vince Russo in charge I probably shouldn't even be sticking the words "image of the championship" together in a sentence.
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AJ Styles is actually a very talented wrestler, and if you saw some of his work outside of TNA you'd see that he can do more than high spots. It's probably more of a matter of them wanting him to work the spotty X division style rather than go out and full on wrestle. Make no mistake, the goal should be to make Styles the biggest star in TNA, but hotshotting the belt onto him with no build is just plain stupid. There is money in AJ Styles as a main-eventer, but he needs to be properly built up. It was stupid to put the belt on him instead of Raven and then build to Styles/Raven payoff, but that's Russo for ya.



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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by IfYouWill
    He can't carry the title with credibility like other worthy contenders such as Raven (if he had a contract)









That is by far and away the most important consideration. If the NWA is going to attempt to be taken seriously, the last thing in the world they need is to have a champ who isn't under contract, who Vince could sign just out of boredom to cripple any hope the NWA has of gaining long term credibility. Eventually the belt had to come off Jarrett, you give Styles a chance and if he fails, you take the belt off of him. If ECW history is going to be used as a jumping off board, what business did Scotty the Body/Johnny Polo have of holding the ECW Title in the mid 90's? Or Dynamic Dude/Failed Replacement Rocker Shane Douglas? And remember, it could have been a worse choice. Alpo Montoya was in the building.



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Since: 12.10.02
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#6 Posted on
Funny, I could have sworn Vince Russo was the new NWA World Champion.

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Since: 6.1.02
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#7 Posted on
Haha! Ron Killings a better choice than AJ Styles. That's a good one. Because having a really sucky and short run as a nobody on WWF gives him a whole lot of credibility. Jarrett, Raven and Douglas champion over Styles? Sure. But Killings? No way, I'd take AJ in a heartbeat. As for giving the title to someone young, someone who is "just a kid", someone who hasn't done much in his career to deserve this. Ever heard of a guy named Brock Lesnar? Seems to be working for him.



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True regarding Lesnar. However, he has a legit tough guy background as an amateur. I'm not saying every NWA champion has to have a good background but Lesnar has a reputation as a tough guy and looks like one too.

Don't get me wrong, I hope this takes AJ Styles' career to unprecedented levels. But no small guy like that with only the ability to work high spots has ever held a World title here in the 'States and shouldn't either. Steve Corino held the title but he also has a reputation for working on the mat and can brawl too.

Let's not degrade the NWA World Title to the likes of some indy fed belt. Give me a reason to care about Styles, NWA.



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Since: 12.10.02
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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by IfYouWill
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    Let's not degrade the NWA World Title to the likes of some indy fed belt. Give me a reason to care about Styles, NWA.



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Since: 20.6.02
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#10 Posted on
Perhaps if AJ Styles has a good run with the title, that would inspire the WWE to put the belt on cruiserweight? Perhaps the Hurricane, who's incredibly over with the fans?



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Since: 16.4.02
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"America may have some problems, but it's our home. Our team. And if you don't wanna root for your team...then you should get the hell out of the stadium. Go America." --Stan Marsh, South Park

Too bad Raven didn't win the NWA strap from Jarrett in their one-on-one match a few weeks ago. It probably would've helped us to have the NWA World Champion defending his title in an NWA territory...just like the good 'ol days.

Although the thought of Raven vs. Shane Douglas is very intriguing. So long, that $10 in my pocket...



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