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Since: 11.7.02
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Sure, it is a ridiculous assertion that perhaps there are people out to get Kerry, but there are crazier theories than this one(especially given New Jersey...
    Originally posted by the Shots Across the Bow blog
    Kerry is losing this election, and losing it badly, and the Dems know it. They needed a way to get him out of the race, to be replaced by a candidate with a better chance of winning. The problem is there's no way for him to drop out now. Not only would they have to concede that the Democrats are in big trouble, (not a possibility) but there would be major legal obstacles, including problems getting on all the ballots if they replace a candidate following the convention.

    And so, a scheme was born. Clumsily forged documents would be released by the Kerry campaign to the media, creating a scandal designed to rebound on Kerry. Dan Rather, already planning his retirement, played the part of the sacrificial lamb in this scenario, giving up a short piece of his career for the good of the Democratic Party. Kerry, more than likely, is completely ignorant of this plan, not realizing that he's about to be replaced on the Democratic ticket. He'll deny any wrongdoing, but will be 'persueded' by party members to step down as candidate. Then, a replacement candidate will be put on the ballot

    So, who's the mastermind behind this Machiavellian machination? Do you think it's a coincidence that Clinton staffers have begun to take over the Kerry campaign? Is it a coincidence that James Carville is now an official advisor to the campaign? How long has he been giving unofficial advice? It seems very clear that the only mind subtle enough to be behind this whole shebang is none other than Old Serpent Head himself. And if he's behind it all, can a Clinton be to far away?

    Yes, folks, you heard it here first. This whole RatherGate scandal has been the first stage in Operation Hillary in 04.




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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.17
    Originally posted by Grimis
    Sure, it is a ridiculous assertion that perhaps there are people out to get Kerry


Swift Boat Vets for Truth say hello.

    Originally posted by that stupid article
    Kerry is losing this election, and losing it badly, and the Dems know it.


Really? If Bob Dole had numbers similar to Kerry's 8 years ago, we'd be hearing about how unprecedented this was, and how Clinton was doomed. This article lost me at that point.



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    Originally posted by eviljonhunt81
    Really? If Bob Dole had numbers similar to Kerry's 8 years ago, we'd be hearing about how unprecedented this was, and how Clinton was doomed. This article lost me at that point.
Kerry is giving up on Ohio, by the way. That's a bad sign.

(Of course, from the sound of it Team Kerry decided to campaign in every rinky-dink town that they came across. Apparently, they were campaigning in towns that went 60-65% Bush in 2000. I dislike Kerry and his record, but a credible presidential campaign deserved better. Of course he has nobody to blame but himself...)



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If there's one trend I'm praying to end once the election is over, it's the mind-boggling ascention to legitimacy that bloggers are suddenly getting. Otherwise the election in '08 could be decided by which side writes the better Hilary slash fiction.



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    Originally posted by Barbwire Mike
    If there's one trend I'm praying to end once the election is over, it's the mind-boggling ascention to legitimacy that bloggers are suddenly getting. Otherwise the election in '08 could be decided by which side writes the better Hilary slash fiction.


Relevancy will quickly be followed with Libel and Slander lawsuits when appropriate, and you'll see the "blogospher" shrink away in fear soon after.

No one has turned on the light yet - all the cockroaches will scatter.



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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Kerry is giving up on Ohio, by the way.


So, campaigning there today = giving the state up?



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
      Originally posted by Barbwire Mike
      If there's one trend I'm praying to end once the election is over, it's the mind-boggling ascention to legitimacy that bloggers are suddenly getting. Otherwise the election in '08 could be decided by which side writes the better Hilary slash fiction.


    Relevancy will quickly be followed with Libel and Slander lawsuits when appropriate, and you'll see the "blogospher" shrink away in fear soon after.

    No one has turned on the light yet - all the cockroaches will scatter.


Which blogs, in your mind, are cockroaches? Certainly, I think Instapundit, Power Line, RatherBiased and others have shown far more journalistic credibility than the establishment media.

When Rather says the burden of proof is on those who call the memos forgeries, well, I'm not too worried about libel or slander suits.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Relevancy will quickly be followed with Libel and Slander lawsuits when appropriate, and you'll see the "blogospher" shrink away in fear soon after.

    No one has turned on the light yet - all the cockroaches will scatter.
I don't think so. During this election, the blogosphere has been important in doing two things:

1. Publicizing stories that the "mainstream media" have ignored.

2. Pointing out inaccuracies in lies in both campaigns as well as the major media.

The major media is doing a tremendous job of shooting themselves in the foot. If they were doing there job, blogs would not be nearly as important.

I don't think necessarily that there will be libel and slander suits either. What's the point?



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    Originally posted by eviljonhunt81
    Really? If Bob Dole had numbers similar to Kerry's 8 years ago, we'd be hearing about how unprecedented this was, and how Clinton was doomed. This article lost me at that point.


Oh, c'mon. Admit it, the article lost you at this point:

Originally posted by Grimis



(edited by Reverend J Shaft on 15.9.04 0912)
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"Sure, it is a ridiculous assertion that perhaps there are people out to get Kerry"

Whaaaaa?
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by Malarky
    "Sure, it is a ridiculous assertion that perhaps there are people out to get Kerry"

    Whaaaaa?
It didn't make sense to me the second time I read it just now....

What I meant to say was "Sure, it is a ridiculous assertion that perhaps there are Democrats out to get Kerry"



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