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| #1 Posted on 23.3.02 2324.08 | According to J.R.'s most recent Ross Report, we can expect big things from R. Orton. The Fink, on Byte This!, adding that "when he gets his opportunity, he will be a bonafide blue-chipper."
Ummmm...?
Of the people that have seen this guy compete before, anybody think this Orton kid's "got anything?"
I saw him at a house show recently and his moveset, look, and "charisma" were that of a Indy Fed. lifer. He was about as interesting as my dog's ass. Probably less - seeing as how a my dog's ass once had a ****1/2 match with diarrhea.
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| #2 Posted on 24.3.02 0810.05 | If you'd have taken one Rocky Miavia '97 match and judged his future on it, you'd have said the same thing-probably even worse. If the WWF sees potential in him, ESPECIALLY JR, you can take it to the bank.
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| #3 Posted on 24.3.02 1224.14 | Dude, JR's lost any "magic touch" he may have had. Remember two of his more recent "boys" were Steve Williams and Billy Gunn. He struck gold once with Steve Austin and he's riding that wave. Also, the WWF in general has a habit of picking the wrong guys in. Their most recent mistake? Picking Nash Hall and Hogan over any three random guys down in the developmental territories who (in addition to being hella cheap) could be built into stars.
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| #4 Posted on 24.3.02 1234.56 | Nash, Hall and Hogan all had name value (BIG name value) which would guarantee a lot more business and revenue than three unknown indy workers. The WWF needed a big short term boost and they're bringing it. As for Steve Williams and Billy Gunn, JR backed Williams due to friendship and past glory (decent reasons, I'd say), and I've never heard him praise Gunn outside of the announce booth (in others, out of character). So if JR is saying positive things about a no-name indy guy he has no discernable relationship with, I'd say that pretty indicative of said guy's talents.
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| #5 Posted on 24.3.02 1245.34 | I'll wait until I see Randy Orton on TV before I say anything. Remember when Kurt Angle was doing dark matches and everyone was saying that while his ringwork was good, he'd probably be too boring to make it in the WWF? While on the other hand, K-Kwik was getting rave reviews online for his dark match work. Wrong on both counts.
Besides, I want to see if Randy suffers from the same 'chronic arm injury' his dad had. ;)
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| #6 Posted on 24.3.02 1255.05 | I'd love to see the guy in action. Heck, I'd love to see any of the OVW guys on tv, but dammit, Florida refuses to show it anywhere here.
OSH, do you REALLY wanna relive the horror that this "short term" logic has invoked before? It did kill WCW before. Living for the short term is great... For a short time. But look at what's happened so far with the short term booking. Failed Invasion, non-lethal poison, Hogan a firkin' face AGAIN. The WWF is the only big game in town, they need to work for the long term if they want to stay that way.
Now, the "chronic arm injury"... Is that hereditary? I'd love to see the cast-covered forearm from the middle rope again! But leave the vest and cowboy hat at home.
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| #7 Posted on 24.3.02 1257.08 | Nah, the arm injury isn't heriditary, it's a DISEASE. But the last known case was Owen Hart, so I guess that Randy won't have it. Although if he's been hanging with D'Lo, then maybe he'll have caught the incredibly nasty "Nine Month Chest Injury Disorder". THAT could be FATAL...
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| #8 Posted on 24.3.02 1510.29 | If Orton's moveset and "look" is that on an Indy fed lifer, then there would be a lot of Indy feds with national credibility...
Orton has to work on his psychology and the way he works the crowd. His psychology is the most suspect thing in the package.
Physically he's solid and athletic. Well put together, but nothing immediately leaps out about him.
His moveset is impressive when allowed to cut loose. He's definitely more polished than Rock was in the actual wrestling department when Rocky was brought in.
Orton is also only 21 years old, and figures to be a long-term WWF project. He won't be coming in and winning the Intercontinental title two months from now.
I wouldn't be suprised to see them package him initially in a tag team of some sort and let him develop from there.
There's really nothing there singles wise that the fed will be able to do with him over the long term and still protect him for the future.
I'm half-expecting him to be in a tag team led by Stacy Keibler to get back at the Dudleys for driving her through a table.
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| #9 Posted on 24.3.02 1805.59 | Yeah? His tattoos are pretty neat.
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| #10 Posted on 25.3.02 0747.26 | It's got nothing to do with tattoos. His build and athleticism alone put him higher than any "Indy Lifer" -- which generally fall into three categories. Pot-bellied chump, hair-back creature, or skinny masochists.
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| #11 Posted on 25.3.02 0939.39 |
Originally posted by EastCoastAvenger I'd love to see the guy in action. Heck, I'd love to see any of the OVW guys on tv, but dammit, Florida refuses to show it anywhere here.
OSH, do you REALLY wanna relive the horror that this "short term" logic has invoked before? It did kill WCW before. Living for the short term is great... For a short time. But look at what's happened so far with the short term booking. Failed Invasion, non-lethal poison, Hogan a firkin' face AGAIN. The WWF is the only big game in town, they need to work for the long term if they want to stay that way.
Now, the "chronic arm injury"... Is that hereditary? I'd love to see the cast-covered forearm from the middle rope again! But leave the vest and cowboy hat at home.
Does all this mean he'll have a slightly disturbing relationship with his tag team partner? I mean, Piper DOES have a son...
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| #12 Posted on 25.3.02 1530.10 | You're a sick, sick, SICK man...
Besides, we already have a slightly disturbing relationship in the WWF. Billy and Chuck. Be honest, didn't the "groin stretching" skit just not sound right?
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| #13 Posted on 25.3.02 1532.23 |
Originally posted by EastCoastAvenger You're a sick, sick, SICK man...
Besides, we already have a slightly disturbing relationship in the WWF. Billy and Chuck. Be honest, didn't the "groin stretching" skit just not sound right?
You're the one into Lita.
Besides, Billy and Chuck are FRIENDS. Don't you pay attention? They're very good FRIENDS. The noive of some people...
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