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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.86
    Originally posted by Lexus
    Yeah, the Raiders did go all the way, but they also went on age. And lost that game. Since then, are there any players left from the '02 Raiders still on the Raiders, let alone in the league?
Janikowski and Lechler! (I only know that because I heard it during the game last Sunday.)



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.26
    Originally posted by It's False
    Lions: I would have agreed if Matt Millen was still on the payroll. Now I say no.


F-I-F-T-Y YEARS WITHOUT A CHAMPIONSHIP. No Super Bowl appearances. One playoff win. In fifty years. And you're going to tell me that just because Al Davis is going senile and the Raiders are having a bad 5 year stretch that they are the bigger joke of a franchise?! C'mon now. At least Al Davis showed, before old age and dementia hit, that he was an owner who cared about winning and HAD won in the past. The only thing William Clay Ford Sr. cares about is his share of NFL profits so he can go relax in a yacht off Florida near Jimmy Johnson, which is the closest Ford Senior gets to winning.




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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.91
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by Lexus
      Yeah, the Raiders did go all the way, but they also went on age. And lost that game. Since then, are there any players left from the '02 Raiders still on the Raiders, let alone in the league?
    Janikowski and Lechler! (I only know that because I heard it during the game last Sunday.)

There are two others, though neither actually played in that Super Bowl.

Ronald Curry was a 7th round pick of the Raiders in '02. He was signed to the practice squad after final cutdowns, remaining there until they signed him to the active roster in week 9 against San Francisco. He returned 3 kickoffs for 73 yards and had a fumble. He was returned to the practice squad after the game.

Marques Tuiasosopo was a 2nd round pick of the Raiders in '01. One source claims he was the 2nd QB in 2002, behind Rich Gannon and ahead of Rick Mirer. The only game he played in was week 4, a 52-25 win over Tennessee. He played the last series of the game, handing off 3 times and taking a knee twice. He was with the team until 2007, when he signed with the Jets. But he returned to the Raiders this offseason, and is in his normal role: 3rd-string QB.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.14
are the Pirates getting a pass because their latest management team is considered potentially competent and haven't had a chance to do anything too egregious yet?
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by CRZ
        Originally posted by Lexus
        Yeah, the Raiders did go all the way, but they also went on age. And lost that game. Since then, are there any players left from the '02 Raiders still on the Raiders, let alone in the league?
      Janikowski and Lechler! (I only know that because I heard it during the game last Sunday.)

    There are two others, though neither actually played in that Super Bowl.

    Ronald Curry was a 7th round pick of the Raiders in '02. He was signed to the practice squad after final cutdowns, remaining there until they signed him to the active roster in week 9 against San Francisco. He returned 3 kickoffs for 73 yards and had a fumble. He was returned to the practice squad after the game.

    Marques Tuiasosopo was a 2nd round pick of the Raiders in '01. One source claims he was the 2nd QB in 2002, behind Rich Gannon and ahead of Rick Mirer. The only game he played in was week 4, a 52-25 win over Tennessee. He played the last series of the game, handing off 3 times and taking a knee twice. He was with the team until 2007, when he signed with the Jets. But he returned to the Raiders this offseason, and is in his normal role: 3rd-string QB.


Still in the league (off the top of my head)

C. Woodson - now in Green Bay

B. Sims - now in San Fran

P. Buchanon - now in Tampa Bay (didn't play in Super Bowl, was on IR)

N. Harris - now in Kansas City

J. Porter - now in Jacksonville

E. Barton - now on the Jets

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#26 Posted on
    Originally posted by BoromirMark
      Originally posted by It's False
      Lions: I would have agreed if Matt Millen was still on the payroll. Now I say no.


    F-I-F-T-Y YEARS WITHOUT A CHAMPIONSHIP. No Super Bowl appearances. One playoff win. In fifty years. And you're going to tell me that just because Al Davis is going senile and the Raiders are having a bad 5 year stretch that they are the bigger joke of a franchise?! C'mon now. At least Al Davis showed, before old age and dementia hit, that he was an owner who cared about winning and HAD won in the past. The only thing William Clay Ford Sr. cares about is his share of NFL profits so he can go relax in a yacht off Florida near Jimmy Johnson, which is the closest Ford Senior gets to winning.


Wah wah.. It has been 61 years since the Cardinals last championship, 1 playoff win in all that time with the same super bowl drought. Plus, we still have Bidwell around, at least you got rid of Millen
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.56
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    are the Pirates getting a pass because their latest management team is considered potentially competent and haven't had a chance to do anything too egregious yet?






Pirates fall more in the land of irrelevant than joke. Without Matt Millen drafting wide receivers in the Top 5 every year the Lions fall back into that category as well, except for Thanksgiving when the country is subjected to them. The main reason the Clippers were a joke rather than irrelevant all those years was Elgin Baylor's annual appearance in Secaucus. The reason the Orioles are a joke turning into irrelevant is they revolutionized baseball with Camden Yards and somehow have turned the place into a 1/4 filled stadium on nights the Yankees and Red Sox aren't in town.
The Raiders were one of the flagship franchises for the AFL/NFL through the 60's, 70's and 80's and revitalized at the beginning of this decade. Thus, the mental breakdown of Al Davis is must watch whether you hate the Raiders or like the Raiders. The Cardinals just are an incompetent team that makes up the schedule through the years.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.46
    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    The Raiders went to the super bowl 5 years ago.

    Just to toss some ideas out there: Seattle Mariners? Oklahoma City Thunder? San Fransisco 49ers? Kansas City Royals? Memphis Grizzlies?



Its not how many wins and losses(well mostly) the Raiders have had over the years. Its how many Head Coaches the Raiders have had over the years and how the organization is run.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.80
I agree with CajunMan; as it goes, if a 1000 chimps spent a 1000 years at 1000 typewriters, the complete works of Shakespeare would get written. Whether or not the NFL is that complex, I don't know, but it's entirely possible a team can get all the way to the big game on a wing and a prayer, even looking all too dominant, just to have the bottom fall out to who wanted it more.

I've said it before, I'll say it again; Marcus Allen getting the bench was when Davis really lost his marbles. And, according to Warren Sapp anybody who wants to play football should stay away from Oakland.

I also heard a tidbit on ESPN about JaMarcus Russell not the top choice of Davis, but couldn't find any links. However, Marcus Allen, JaMarcus Russell, one Marcus one a slight deviation, both with last names that are also first names, well...



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.26
    Originally posted by CajunMan
    Its how many Head Coaches the Raiders have had over the years and how the organization is run.


::coughsDETROITLIONScoughs::

They're so bad whether you go by wins/losses, playoff appearances, Super Bowl appearances, or "how many Head Coaches the Raiders have had over the years and how the organization is run." the Lions have it all.

(edited by BoromirMark on 3.10.08 1519)



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3633589

The Raiders are subject to penalties for the public accusation of tampering. Yikes.


    There is an NFL policy that does say that teams can be subject to sanctions for issuing false allegations in public.

    The punishment for violating the policy could range from a substantial fine -- $250,000 or more -- to docking the Raiders one or more draft picks, or both, NFL sources told ESPN.




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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.36
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3633589

    The Raiders are subject to penalties for the public accusation of tampering. Yikes.


      There is an NFL policy that does say that teams can be subject to sanctions for issuing false allegations in public.

      The punishment for violating the policy could range from a substantial fine -- $250,000 or more -- to docking the Raiders one or more draft picks, or both, NFL sources told ESPN.



So what's the difference between this and the Packers accusing the Vikings of tampering with Favre? (Besides, of course, Al Davis being insane.)



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