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|  #2 Posted on 20.10.08 2235.19 | Instant Rating: 4.54 | So, the championship was getting too predictable, and the Chase was supposed to open it up, get more people involved, and create a "playoff" to get everyone interested, and what do we get, assuming something amazing doesn't happen?
Only the second threepeat in NASCAR history. (Cale Yarborough did it in '76, '77, and '78.) So what's the next way to tinker with the format? Re-seed them twice?
Which actually isn't an entirely horrible idea, now that I think about it. It's a 36-race season, break it up into 3, 10-race segments, take the top 5 (different) points earners, reseed them as how the Chase does now, and let those 15 run for the Championship over the next 6 races. You've got to figure the point structure out, but if they're bound and determined to have a playoff, this also lets some new drivers into the mix (If Gordon, Stewart, Johnson, Earnhardt, and Edwards all clinch their spots by race 10, well then you have to look at the rest of the field for a while, and things get interesting.)
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| #3 Posted on 21.10.08 0909.14 | Instant Rating: 7.40 | Originally posted by kwik
So, the championship was getting too predictable, and the Chase was supposed to open it up, get more people involved, and create a "playoff" to get everyone interested, and what do we get, assuming something amazing doesn't happen?
Only the second threepeat in NASCAR history. (Cale Yarborough did it in '76, '77, and '78.) So what's the next way to tinker with the format? Re-seed them twice?
Which actually isn't an entirely horrible idea, now that I think about it. It's a 36-race season, break it up into 3, 10-race segments, take the top 5 (different) points earners, reseed them as how the Chase does now, and let those 15 run for the Championship over the next 6 races. You've got to figure the point structure out, but if they're bound and determined to have a playoff, this also lets some new drivers into the mix (If Gordon, Stewart, Johnson, Earnhardt, and Edwards all clinch their spots by race 10, well then you have to look at the rest of the field for a while, and things get interesting.)
They should have never messed with it in the first place. If you look back over time - which I have done and done, you'll see that if NASCAR had looked at their own history they would have seen that their points system lends itself to sometimes have guys get big leads over short periods of time, just like this year.
I don't mind the idea of the Chase, but NASCAR didn't really do their homework at all if they were trying to guarantee close finishes year in and year out. Also, I don't know why they didn't give their fans more credit, but sometimes it's OK to have a blow-out for the championship. It happens. I think they are learning there isn't anything they can really do about that.
Holy fuck shit motherfucker shit. Read comics. Fuck shit shit fuck shit I sold out when I did my job. Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck. Sorry had to do it....
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| #4 Posted on 27.10.08 0524.41 | Instant Rating: 1.70 | After Race # 7, No Shock Here,
STANDINGS
2008 Unofficial Driver Standings: Pep Boys Auto 500
Pep Boys Auto 500 | Atlanta Motor Speedway | Race 33 of 36
RANK +/- DRIVER POINTS BEHIND STARTS POLES WINS TOP 5 TOP 10
1 -- Jimmie Johnson 6248 Leader 33 5 6 14 21
2 +2 Carl Edwards 6065 -183 33 1 7 16 24
3 -1 Greg Biffle 6063 -185 33 2 2 11 16
4 -1 Jeff Burton 6030 -218 33 0 2 7 17
5 +1 Kevin Harvick 5941 -307 33 0 0 6 16
6 +1 Jeff Gordon 5936 -312 33 3 0 11 17
7 -2 Clint Bowyer 5934 -314 33 0 1 5 15
8 -- Tony Stewart 5847 -401 33 0 1 10 15
9 +1 Matt Kenseth 5835 -413 33 0 0 9 19
10 -1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 5829 -419 33 1 1 10 15
11 -- Denny Hamlin 5823 -425 33 1 1 11 17
12 -- Kyle Busch 5783 -465 33 2 8 17 19
Bonus....Truck Series Standings,
STANDINGS
2008 Unofficial Driver Standings: E-Z-GO 200
E-Z-GO 200 | Atlanta Motor Speedway | Race 22 of 25
RANK +/- DRIVER POINTS BEHIND STARTS POLES WINS TOP 5 TOP 10
1 -- Johnny Benson 3324 Leader 22 3 5 13 16
2 -- Ron Hornaday 3293 -31 22 4 5 13 16
3 +1 Todd Bodine 3106 -218 22 1 2 12 14
4 +2 Erik Darnell 3027 -297 22 2 1 9 11
5 -2 Matt Crafton 3027 -297 22 0 1 9 11
6 +1 Rick Crawford 2983 -341 22 0 0 7 12
7 -2 Mike Skinner 2981 -343 22 3 1 4 16
8 -- Dennis Setzer 2800 -524 22 1 1 4 7
9 -- Jack Sprague 2792 -532 22 1 0 5 9
10 +1 Chad McCumbee 2654 -670 22 0 0 2 8
11 -1 Terry Cook 2654 -670 22 0 0 2 7
12 -- David Starr 2581 -743 22 0 0 4 8
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| #5 Posted on 27.10.08 0853.09 | Instant Rating: 7.40 | Quite a call by Chad Knaus there at the end. Chad also owes Denny Hamlin big-time for not wrecking him and Jimmie on the last lap.
And - let's review...
Sprint Cup - with the supposedly better Chase format that supposedly guaranteed a close points-finish - JJ leads by 183.
Nationwide Series - with the LAME, non-Chase set-up that doesn't guarantee a close points-finish - Clint Bowyer leads by 116.
Truck Series - also with the lame non-Chase set-up - Johnny Benson leads by 31.
Nice going, NASCAR.
(And I didn't even mention that Jimmie Johnson would only be ahead of Carl Edwards by 98 points if there wasn't a Chase.)
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| CajunMan
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| #6 Posted on 27.10.08 1036.32 | Instant Rating: 1.70 | Is it really NASCAR'S fault or did Jimmie Johnson/Hendrick have this all figured out with a little strategy? The strategy of not showing your power till the Chase starts.
Actually this is the first year that the chase has really been a blowout. | JayJayDean
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| #7 Posted on 27.10.08 1224.11 | Instant Rating: 7.40 | Originally posted by CajunMan
Is it really NASCAR'S fault or did Jimmie Johnson/Hendrick have this all figured out with a little strategy? The strategy of not showing your power till the Chase starts.
No - and I disagree with your premise that they've "figured it out". The reason they are so far ahead is that they (the 48 team) haven't had any really bad finishes, those are what kills you. Heck, if you are going to say anyone was really sandbagging it was Biffle, who didn't win all year and then won the first two races.
What I was saying is that NASCAR might have used a little more forethought when they were trying to create a close finish to every season, because they aren't really any more or less guaranteed to have one than they were before - see, the other two series.
Holy fuck shit motherfucker shit. Read comics. Fuck shit shit fuck shit I sold out when I did my job. Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck. Sorry had to do it....
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Revenge of the Sith = one thumb up from me. Fuck shit. I want to tittie fuck your ass. -- The Guinness. to Cerebus
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