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cranlsn
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Since: 18.3.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.87

Steroids aren't exclusive to wrestling, but given recent events I thought this might be the best place to ask the question.

I know that steroids don't work like Popeye and spinach, i.e you'll still need to work out etc...to look like that, but how exactly do they help, identifiying characteristics, etc...

I'm asking because people are called out on 'roids all the time (Cena & Lashley in the recent Raw thread for example). Is it physically impossible for someone to look like that without steroids? If not, why do people single them out.

Or for instance, can someone be on steroids but not look the part. For example, Mark Henry is obviously very strong, but not exactly chiseled. Could he be on steroids, but only benefiting strength wise?

How do anabolic steroids differ from steroids that someone may be taking for a medical condition? Asthma for example. Other than the obvious matter of quantity. I know that 10x the prescribed amount of anything is going to be unhealthy.

What about mass builders that you can buy at GNC? If size is all that they're looking for wouldn't these serve the same purpose without the health/injury risks of steroids?

I hope these don't come off as a "stupid" questions, but there is a lot of information being thrown around lately and I'd like a little better understanding of some of it.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.94
    Originally posted by cranlsn
    I know that steroids don't work like Popeye and spinach, i.e you'll still need to work out etc...to look like that, but how exactly do they help, identifiying characteristics, etc...


Most of them basically allow for a level of definition that you would never otherwise be able to attain. It's not a matter of less working out and better results with steroids; it's the opposite. You can work out longer and harder and recover faster, which allows you to get better and faster results.

    Originally posted by cranlsn
    I'm asking because people are called out on 'roids all the time (Cena & Lashley in the recent Raw thread for example). Is it physically impossible for someone to look like that without steroids?


It's not physically impossible, but it's highly unlikely. It's not just a matter of them looking the way they do, but maintaining that look fifty-two weeks a year. Sustaining that level of musculature indefinitely is usually the dead giveaway from a lot of these guys. When you see pro bodybuilders, they look like that for the one week of that competition. They don't walk around like that all the time, because they'd die. That is why steroids have proven fatal for so many wrestlers; used responsibly most people could probably use them without long-term damaging effects but wrestlers go on them and stay on them for years at a time. That being said, could John Cena's body-type be attained without the juice? I would say yes. Lashley's, probably not, but with amazing genetics, okay, maaaaybe. It's just the idea that anyone could look like that virtually all the time, while travelling, while not necessarily being able to get the best pick of high-quality meals, not necessarily getting eight hours a night of sleep (which is the key to recovery), and other factors that impairs the credibility of these guys saying they're steroid free.

    Originally posted by cranlsn
    If not, why do people single them out?

Well, people are jerks. You can't really tell by looking. X-Pac said in one of his Torch Talks, that you'd be surprised who is and who isn't doing it. Everyone is probably on something in wrestling.

    Originally posted by cranlsn
    How do anabolic steroids differ from steroids that someone may be taking for a medical condition? Asthma for example.


I'm pretty sure steroids used for athsma are basically anti-inflammatory in efficacy, and have no anabolic effects whatsoever. Though I'm sure if I'm wrong someone here will be quick to correct me, heh.

    Originally posted by cranlsn
    What about mass builders that you can buy at GNC? If size is all that they're looking for wouldn't these serve the same purpose without the health/injury risks of steroids?


Those mass builders, my friend, are garbage. If they worked, and they're legal, why would anyone risk 'roids? That stuff is made with the lowest potency of whatever you're supposed to be getting that they can legally sell.

I think more guys, in the future, will turn to expensive, $100-a-bottle pharaceutical-grade digestive enzymes, which according to weight-lifters I know, is regarded in certain circles to be the steroid of the future, and should definitely not have the side-effects of steroids. Will anyone get as big on enzymes as they do on the juice? Surely not, but it's better than death.

(edited by Hogan's My Dad on 3.7.07 1029)


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic_steroids

Some good info there.

Here's the link to the "general" steroid page, which links to medical use steroids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steroid

(edited by StaggerLee on 3.7.07 1251)
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    I think more guys, in the future, will turn to expensive, $100-a-bottle pharaceutical-grade digestive enzymes, which according to weight-lifters I know, is regarded in certain circles to be the steroid of the future, and should definitely not have the side-effects of steroids. Will anyone get as big on enzymes as they do on the juice? Surely not, but it's better than death.

    (edited by Hogan's My Dad on 3.7.07 1029)

That's not related to the "elevated liver enzymes" everyone seemed to be suffering from when they first started the wellness testing, is it?
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.32
Originally posted by cranlsnHow do anabolic steroids differ from steroids that someone may be taking for a medical condition? Asthma for example.

I'm pretty sure steroids used for athsma are basically anti-inflammatory in efficacy, and have no anabolic effects whatsoever. Though I'm sure if I'm wrong someone here will be quick to correct me, heh.

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That's pretty much on the money. The steroids for asthma are different from anabolic steroids in that they have not muscle building benefits, IIRC.



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CajunMan
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.97
I hated Marc Mero as a wrestler, but I like his idea of cleaning up Wrestling with mandatory drug testing unannounced by an outside firm not affilated with wrestling. Wrestlers going to high schools and speaking about the dangers of Roids, An off-season for wrestlers, Better medical benefits, and more time with their families.

This is something the WWE should consider.



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