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|  #1 Posted on 19.10.12 0046.35 | Instant Rating: 8.40 | PWI (Pro Wrestling Illustrated) one of the last print wrestling magazines, has released the digital version of the issue coming out in January 2013. The period covered for consideration was from Sep. 1 2011-Aug. 30 2012. The list takes heavily into consideration Kayfabe (win-loss record, promotional "push" , Championships held and duration, ) and prominence (primarily due to appearing on TV/PPV as well as to a lesser extent working for "major" Indy promotions). Quality of opposition & perceived wrestling talent are also supposedly factors though the numbers don't seem to reflect it. They also ONLY consider work done in Canada & the U.S. & therefore we don't see very many "international" talents. And the PWI writers admit they don't follow the scene as closely as most fans do, so many people are already up in arms about certain wrestlers placements. I will say that while most of the people on the list deserve recognition, IMO some don't. The list has been reported by both Diva-dirt.com (where I directly C&P'd the names from) as well as ringbellesonline.com & they have some of their own insight. I have added the prominent promotions the individuals wrestled for & noted current champions. Don't take that info as comprehensive as it's off the top of my head & most Indy wrestlers work for numerous large and small promotions.
1. Gail Kim (TNA)
2. Beth Phoenix (WWE)
3. Cheerleader Melissa (SHIMMER, NCWFF, RCW-Texas)
4. Sara Del Rey (WWE/NXT Trainer, Shimmer, SHINE, Chikara, NCWFF, ROH)
5. Jessicka Havok (WSU, SHINE, ACW-Texas, Crossfire) WSU Ch.
6. Layla (WWE)
7. Miss Tessmacher (TNA)
8. Saraya Knight (Shimmer, WAW/WAWW-UK, HEW-UK) Shimmer Ch.
9. Mercedes Martinez (WSU, Shimmer, SHINE)
10. Tara (TNA) Knockout's Ch.
11. Hailey Hatred (Shimmer, AIW-Ohio, several Japanese promotions) holds several titles, mostly in Japan
12. Natalya (WWE)
13. Jazz (SHINE, ArenaChicks)
14. Velvet Sky (TNA, FWE-New York)
15. Madison Rayne (TNA,Shimmer)
16. Mickie James (TNA)
17. LuFisto (Shimmer, NCWFF, WSU)
18. Winter (TNA, FWE-New York)
19. Tamina Snuka (WWE)
20. MsChif (Shimmer,SHINE, ROH, AAW-Illinois)
21. ODB (TNA) Knockout's Tag-Team Ch,
22. Eve Torres (WWE) Diva's Ch.
23. Kelly Kelly (WWE)
24. Brittney Savage (WSU)
25. Melanie Cruise (Shimmer, Resistance Pro, POWW-Illinois) R-Pro Women's Ch.
26. Kellie Skater (Shimmer, ArenaChicks, IndyGurlz, PWA/PWWA-Australia)
27. Sarita (TNA,CMLL-Mexico)
28. Athena (Shimmer, SHINE, WSU, ACW-Texas)
29. Nicole Matthews (Shimmer, NCWFF, ECCW-Canada) Shimmer Tag-Team Ch.
30. Paige (WWE/FCW-NXT, Shimmer, WAW/WAWW-UK)
31. Angelina Love (TNA, FWE-New York)
32. Portia Perez (Shimmer, SHINE, NCWFF) Shimmer Tag-Team Ch.
33. Rosita (TNA, ArenaChicks, FWE-New York)
34. Jessie McKay (Shimmer, PWA/PWWA-Australia)
35. Kalamity (Shimmer, NCWFF, WSU) NCWFF Ch.
36. Alicia Fox (WWE)
37. Tasha Simone (NWA/Top Rope-Tennessee) NWA Women's Ch.
38. Taeler Hendrix (TNA, OVW, SHINE) OVW Women's Ch.
39. Rachel Summerlyn (ACW-Texas)
40. Kacee Carlisle
41. Sassy Stephie (Shimmer, SHINE, WSU, AIW-Ohio) WSU Tag-Team Ch.
42. Cherry Bomb (NCWFF, SHINE, NEO-Canada) NEO Women's Ch.
43. Allysin Kay (WSU, SHINE, Shimmer, AIW-Ohio, Crossfire) WSU Tag-Team Ch.
44. Alicia (WSU)
45. Brittany Force
46. Lexxus (WSU)
47. Marti Belle (WSU, ROH, DGUSA/Evolve) WSU Spirit Ch.
48. Amber O’Neal (ArenaChicks,IndyGurlz)
49. Leva Bates (Shimmer, SHINE, WSU)
50. Veda Scott (Shimmer, SHINE, ROH, AIW-Ohio, IndyGurlz)
A few thoughts.
I believe I've stated it before but; with the activity of women's wrestling both in North America and around the world, it's time IMO that there be at least a North American 100 if not a World 250 ( It's conceivable to do more but depending on high they go it'd be scraping the barrel to name deserving talent)
Last year's No.1 Madison Eagles is not on the list. She came to the US as Shimmer Champion in October 2011 and lost the Title to Melissa then took the rest of the year off due to several injuries & is still inactive with the possibility she may not ever be able to return.
The one name on the list I personally feel hasn't done enough anywhere significant is Brittany Force who once again is ranked. I don't claim to know everything about what everyone is doing but do feel I follow things enough to say that she hasn't generated much *buzz* about her name out amongst the fans. I'm not taking away from any talent she may have but I've only seen very little of her myself & heard even less about her.
Thankfully this is the last year Kelly Kelly will be taking up space a better wrestler deserves. The Divas & Knockout's in general rank high based primarily on their exposure with Kelly and Miss Tessmacher the clear examples there. To a lesser extent Tamina & Alicia Fox as well.
The actual "ranking" of the various talent is subject to any individuals opinion of each wrestler so I'm not going to fret too much about what specific number anyone is but personally do feel some rearranging is in order.
Some wrestlers who didn't make the list but I feel should; Ayako Hamada (Shimmer) Christina Von Eerie (Shimmer,SHINE, DGUSA/Evolve, TNA) Mia Yim (Shimmer, SHINE, ROH, ACW-Texas, AIW-Ohio) Rain (WSU, SHINE) Allison Danger (Shimmer) Courtney Rush (Shimmer,NCWFF, NEO-Canada, TCW-Canada)
(edited by OndaGrande on 18.10.12 2255)
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| #2 Posted on 19.10.12 0135.14 | Instant Rating: 9.39 | Many thanks for that.
It's been a few years since I updated it, but here now is the LATEST all-time list!
12 11 10 09 08
1 26 13 13 3 Gail Kim
2 7 7 7 2 Beth Phoenix
3 6 4 12 -- Cheerleader Melissa
4 10 12 11 6 Sara Del Rey
5 35 46 -- -- Jessicka Havok
6 13 36 -- 39 Layla
7 -- -- -- -- Miss Tessmacher
8 -- -- -- -- Saraya Knight
9 2 3 14 11 Mercedes Martinez
10 8 11 5 12 Tara
11 -- -- -- -- Hailey Hatred
12 4 29 25 19 Natalya
13 27 40 -- -- Jazz
14 17 21 23 -- Velvet Sky
15 5 6 19 -- Madison Rayne
16 3 8 1 4 Mickie James
17 19 33 30 45 LuFisto
18 20 -- 20 -- Winter
19 -- -- -- -- Tamina Snuka
20 9 9 4 5 MsChif
21 32 22 15 14 ODB
22 11 5 -- -- Eve Torres
23 15 26 34 32 Kelly Kelly
24 47 -- -- -- Brittney Savage
25 39 -- -- -- Melanie Cruise
26 37 37 -- -- Kellie Skater
27 14 16 17 -- Sarita
28 -- -- -- -- Athena
29 33 31 39 -- Nicole Matthews
30 -- -- -- -- Paige
31 12 2 2 16 Angelina Love
32 30 25 35 50 Portia Perez
33 31 -- -- -- Rosita
34 -- -- 49 -- Jessie McKay
35 -- -- -- -- Kalamity
36 43 17 -- -- Alicia Fox
37 42 -- -- -- Tasha Simone
38 -- -- -- -- Taeler Hendrix
39 34 -- -- -- Rachel Summerlyn
40 46 -- -- -- Kacee Carlisle
41 41 -- -- -- Sassy Stephie
42 40 44 48 -- Cherry Bomb
43 -- -- -- -- Allysin Kay
44 -- -- -- -- Alicia
45 36 47 -- -- Brittany Force
46 -- -- -- -- Lexxus
47 -- -- -- -- Marti Belle
48 44 32 27 30 Amber O'Neal
49 -- -- -- -- Leva Bates
50 -- -- -- -- Veda Scott
-- 1 15 31 -- Madison Eagles
-- 16 30 40 -- Serena Deeb
-- 18 20 -- -- Hamada
-- 21 -- -- -- Brie Bella
-- 22 28 22 -- Angel Orsini
-- 23 -- 3 8 Melina
-- 24 34 16 15 Daizee Haze
-- 25 23 21 7 Nikki Roxx
-- 28 10 9 -- Maryse
-- 29 -- -- -- Christina Von Eerie
-- 38 -- -- -- Tina San Antonio
-- 45 35 41 21 Allison Danger
-- 48 -- -- -- A.J.
-- 49 41 -- -- Melissa Coates
-- 50 -- -- -- Jessica James
-- -- 1 8 9 Michelle McCool
-- -- 14 6 1 Awesome Kong
-- -- 18 10 13 Taylor Wilde
-- -- 19 18 49 Daffney
-- -- 24 28 34 Jillian
-- -- 27 26 -- Rain
-- -- 38 -- -- Tiffany
-- -- 39 38 48 Jennifer Blake
-- -- 42 -- -- Cat Power
-- -- 43 42 35 Malia Hosaka
-- -- 45 47 18 April Hunter
-- -- 48 -- -- Naomi Night
-- -- 49 -- -- Cindy Rogers
-- -- 50 -- -- Roxie Cotton
-- -- -- 24 -- Sojo Bolt
-- -- -- 29 -- Jetta
-- -- -- 32 -- Nevaeh
-- -- -- 33 -- Wesna Busic
-- -- -- 36 47 Danyah
-- -- -- 37 -- Ariel
-- -- -- 43 31 Lexie Fyfe
-- -- -- 44 41 Jamie D
-- -- -- 45 -- Amy Lee
-- -- -- 46 44 Annie Social
-- -- -- 50 43 Rosa Mendez
-- -- -- -- 10 Candice Michelle
-- -- -- -- 17 Jacqueline
-- -- -- -- 20 Sumie Sakai
-- -- -- -- 28 Traci Brooks
-- -- -- -- 29 Maria Kanellis
-- -- -- -- 33 Cindy Rogers
-- -- -- -- 36 Christie Ricci
-- -- -- -- 37 Becky Bayless
-- -- -- -- 38 Alere Little Feather
-- -- -- -- 40 Kelly Couture
-- -- -- -- 42 Christy Hemme
-- -- -- -- 46 Rhaka Khan
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| #3 Posted on 19.10.12 0908.46 | Instant Rating: 4.93 | Annie Social is listed twice. Once for her 08 entry and once for her 09 entry.
The top of these lists is always hilarious due to the mix of work and shoot info.
Also, this reminds me I'm going to really miss Del Rey working in SHIMMER.
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| #4 Posted on 19.10.12 0917.55 | Instant Rating: 1.35 | Originally posted by spf
Annie Social is listed twice. Once for her 08 entry and once for her 09 entry.
The top of these lists is always hilarious due to the mix of work and shoot info.
Also, this reminds me I'm going to really miss Del Rey working in SHIMMER.
Yeah, Miss Tessmacher over a lot of these women is a bit of a stretch especially Mickie James and Mischief. Its really hard to argue against the top four. No AJ is a bit odd.
The Wee Baby Sheamus.Twitter: @realjoecarfley its a bit more toned down there. A bit. | OndaGrande
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| #5 Posted on 19.10.12 2328.11 | Instant Rating: 8.40 |
LOTJX I won't argue with the top 5, J Hav is for real. She and Leva totally rocked the Shine iPPV tonight. Really the entire show was awesome.
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| #6 Posted on 20.10.12 0811.26 | Instant Rating: 6.34 | Originally posted by lotjx
No AJ is a bit odd.
Yeah, but AJ is currently above this list. AJ, to her surprise, spent the last 10 months in three different roles (Daniel's girl, crazy girl dating Daniel/Punk/Kane, RAW GM) that required no wrestling and left her currently more prominent than any woman on this list. Funny how things work out sometimes.
I would argue against Beth Phoenix as number 2. Half the time she was Divas Champion she was practically invisible, she lost the title to Nikki Bella in April and went back to being invisible and irrelevant, except for trotting her out to be jobbed out of the company.
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