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|  #1 Posted on 28.1.02 0907.02 | I got GTA3 for my birthday last friday and it literally is the best thing ever! I had it heard it was good, but it is better than I had any hope for. The way you can totally free roam and ignore the missions if you want to is just great. Everything you could want in a game is here: graphics, gameplay, sense of humour. really, if you've got a PS2 go buy it now.
I also got Pro Evolution Soccer, which is also great, but then I have no clue about what makes a good soccer game, so that might not mean much, but I like it anyway.
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|  #2 Posted on 28.1.02 1138.51 | GTA3 is the answer to the question "Where did most of my month of January go?"
The genius of this game is that it's playable in so many ways. You can go mission-to-mission, following the storyline and unlocking new events and places. You can enter Obsessive-Compulsive Mode and hunt down every last hidden package, unique jump, rampage and vehicle mission, and spend hours digging through all three immense city sections to find them. You can just go completely nuts and do whatever you feel like -- drive like an utter maniac and pull off ludicrous stunts, intentionally raise your police wanted level and go hunting or steal Army tanks, or just wander the streets looking for trouble. AND IT'S ENTERTAINING AS HELL in all of these gameplay styles, and you can switch motivations and styles at any time.
Even more than that, I'm not sure I've ever played another game that gave me such a sense of completeness of the environment -- that there really is a big city around you, whose citizens have everyday lives that don't revolve around your activities. You're not the reason for its existence, you're the random element disrupting it. Everything fits together.
And you don't even need incredible hand-eye coordination to beat it -- you spend lots of time behind the wheel, but it's no Gran Turismo ultra-detailed-sim. A little practice and an understanding of momentum (i.e. how to keep moving and yank the policeman's hands off your car door before he busts you) covers everything but the most advanced off-road missions.
If you have a PS2, get it. If you don't, get it AND a PS2. It's that damn good.
(And I have Rockstar's next game preordered, which ships next week if all goes well. "State of Emergency" puts you in the middle of an anti-corporation riot, as an instigator trying to make it even more chaotic. Great stuff.)
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|  #3 Posted on 28.1.02 1404.01 | You guys forget to mention the best part:
Picking up hookers!
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| #4 Posted on 28.1.02 1600.27 | Originally posted by Scar
You guys forget to mention the best part:
Picking up hookers!
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Bah. Picking up a hooker (and then running over her when she's done to get some of your money back) is a momentary thrill. Driving a Yardie low-rider off the top of a five-story parking garage with a hooker in the car, careening into a hapless pedestrian, using the car's hydraulics to bounce up and down on said pedestrian's remains, carjacking the ambulance when it shows up to try and remove the smear from the sidewalk, then spraying the hooker and the paramedics with your Uzi before driving off in search of more fun... now, THAT'S entertainment.
Either that, or I need to start a new medication.
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| #5 Posted on 28.1.02 1839.19 | Yeah, GTA3 has gotta be one of the most badass games I've ever played. I'm pretty excited about State of Emergency, too. I'll be sure to pick that up once it's released, although I'd love to find some more information about it first...
On another note, all the websites they mention on the radio in the game do exist. They're not all "real" sites, but they're kinda cool, nonetheless. www.gamecrib.com is apparently the site for some underground recording label and www.hiphophonies.com (yeah, I prob spelt it wrong) is some sort of porn site, kinda funny actually.
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| #6 Posted on 31.1.02 0306.28 | Instant Rating: 5.01 | Yeah, GTA3 took up a good portion of my time, too. Then I bought Final Fantasy X, and that's started to take up even more than GTA3 did.
...Started? What am I talking about... I've logged over 140 hours on FFX. LOL...
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| #7 Posted on 31.1.02 0342.20 | |
I played GTA3 the other day, then drove home immediately afterwards. BAAAAAAAAAAD IDEA. I had to mentally tell myself not to swerve all over the road and slam into pedestrians, and not to pull my car out in front of a cop and jack his cruiser.
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| #8 Posted on 31.1.02 0407.14 | Instant Rating: 8.00 | Originally posted by ironcladlou
I played GTA3 the other day, then drove home immediately afterwards. BAAAAAAAAAAD IDEA. I had to mentally tell myself not to swerve all over the road and slam into pedestrians, and not to pull my car out in front of a cop and jack his cruiser.
Yeah, it is tempting. I can't believe people say that video games can affect behaviour like this. Some guy shouted the same thing at me the other day, so I jumped out of my Stretch and beat him down with my baseball bat. That ought to show him. 
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|  #9 Posted on 31.1.02 0655.33 | The only thing that games makes me want to do is pick up hookers
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| #10 Posted on 31.1.02 1148.33 | When we first rented GTA3 at my friends house I spent 4-5 days there just playing that damn game. When I finally went home it was at 4 am, music blaring loud, visions of Liberty City being super-imposed on my windshield and all I really wanted to do was pull in front of some cars at a stoplight and jack the nicest one!
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| #11 Posted on 1.2.02 0639.51 | Instant Rating: 5.01 | I think the only way GTA3 could be better is if you could go into more buildings than you can.
But I understand as deep as the game already is, it would probably be very difficult to pull that off.
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| #12 Posted on 1.2.02 0842.27 | Instant Rating: 8.00 | Originally posted by ekedolphin
I think the only way GTA3 could be better is if you could go into more buildings than you can.
But I understand as deep as the game already is, it would probably be very difficult to pull that off.
That would be nice though. To be the bank robber instead of the getaway driver would be cool. Maybe we'll see it in GTA4?
Hell, I shouldn't be complaining yet, I've only had the thing a week...
Does anyone know how you get over the bridge onto the second island? Is it a dollar amount that opens it up or doing so many missions?
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| #13 Posted on 1.2.02 0902.47 | Qubber wrote:
> That would be nice though. To be the bank robber instead
> of the getaway driver would be cool. Maybe we'll see it
> in GTA4?
Perhaps. It's something I don't want to see YET, because they'd need to tweak the hand-to-hand engine a bit. I had enough problems trying to target the right enemies in open-air rampages; I don't really need that in missions yet. State of Emergency will shed some light as to how their handling of close-up combat has improved.
> Does anyone know how you get over the bridge onto the
> second island? Is it a dollar amount that opens it up or
> doing so many missions?
Missions. One particular Salvatore Leoni mission will provide access, and the bridge will be reopened right after you complete it. Fair warning, however -- if you have things left to do in Portland (Luigi/Joey/Toni missions, hidden packages, emergency vehicle missions, and particularly El Burro's missions), do them FIRST. You'll thank yourself in the long run, because while you can come back to Portland later on, certain relationships will have changed dramatically, and that's all I'm sayin' about THAT.
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| #14 Posted on 1.2.02 0911.35 | Instant Rating: 8.00 | Originally posted by vsp
One particular Salvatore Leoni mission will provide access, and the bridge will be reopened right after you complete it. Fair warning, however -- if you have things left to do in Portland (Luigi/Joey/Toni missions, hidden packages, emergency vehicle missions, and particularly El Burro's missions), do them FIRST. You'll thank yourself in the long run, because while you can come back to Portland later on, certain relationships will have changed dramatically, and that's all I'm sayin' about THAT.
Thanks, man. I'm just doing the Salvatore missions now, and was kinda hankering after an island change, but assuming it's worse than those damn Triads fricking up my missions with the change in relationships you mention, I'll hang off moving on until I've truly finished Portland.
"Nobody enjoys a good time more than I do, but this business of yours is as legitimate as a three-legged donkey...which of course is illegitimate because as we all know donkeys have four legs."
Lance Storm, 21st January 2002.
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| #15 Posted on 1.2.02 1112.40 | The only thing I didn't really like about GTA3 (besides the goddamned boats) was the fact that you couldn't really go back to the other parts of the city. Just try doing the firetruck missions in Portland after you've finished that part. One damn shotgun blast and WHAMMO! insta death. I liked the storyline and everything, but I think that there needs to be some random missions generated at the payphones so you can continue to play after the game is over. Oh, and the 'over-head' view needs to be tweaked a little so you can actually drive around with it on. Maybe like lowering the camera level below the damn bridges so you can see the car.
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| #16 Posted on 1.2.02 1231.04 | Originally posted by Jaguar
The only thing I didn't really like about GTA3 (besides the goddamned boats) was the fact that you couldn't really go back to the other parts of the city. Just try doing the firetruck missions in Portland after you've finished that part. One damn shotgun blast and WHAMMO! insta death. I liked the storyline and everything, but I think that there needs to be some random missions generated at the payphones so you can continue to play after the game is over. Oh, and the 'over-head' view needs to be tweaked a little so you can actually drive around with it on. Maybe like lowering the camera level below the damn bridges so you can see the car.
-Jag
Aw, the boats weren't THAT bad!
(some spoilers, though I suppose it's been hinted at already)
The only "you can't go home again" area in the game is Saint Mark's, and even then it's possible to get up to Salvatore's mansion afterwards and swipe a Mafia Sentinel without having to go through that part of town. (Hint: try Patriot Playground and see where the checkpoints lead you.) Just about every gang in the game gets pissed at you sooner or later, but the Mafia is the only one packing shotguns, and thus the only ones who can toast a car quickly. Sure, it's annoying to turn a corner and have seven Triads or Diablos on your butt, but hey -- them's the breaks.
Firetruck missions in Portland aren't too bad -- you only need 20! Just abort whenever the next car pops up in Saint Mark's and you should be in good shape, and the same goes for the Vigilante missions. Ambulance missions are a bit more problematic, but I focus on those in Staunton anyway as you seem to get more time to complete them there. A couple of hidden packages (particularly the one on the gas-station roof) are nasty when the Mafia wants you dead, and a couple of missions (Big 'n' Veiny and Turismo come to mind) are brutal when they're gunning for you, but they are possible -- I've done all of those late in the game. They're harder, but possible.
There are only two late-game missions that force you into the Mafia neighborhood danger zones (Rigged to Blow and Espresso-2-Go), and they don't even SHOOT at you during Rigged!
I'd love more missions, but there's so much to do in this game that I can't blame them for running out of pre-scripted material. They have to save SOMETHING for GTA4. (I'd love a GTA3 missions disc, though, like what they did with GTA London back in the day.) I'm at 99% right now (missing only Ambulance Level 12); I've finished all 73 missions, 20 jumps, 20 rampages, 100 packages, the taxi/firetruck/police objectives, a perfect triple insane stunt, all three vehicle collection points (garages/cranes) fulfilled, and I'm STILL playing the damn game constantly. Just tooling around town trying to pull off demented vehicle stunts, driving like a maniac, finding new places from which to steal a tank, improving my offroad/race mission times, and generally being a nuisance to the neighborhood is entertaining as hell for me.
But, yes, the shotguns are overpowered. Then again, yours are just as powerful; the difference is that the Mafia guy doesn't CARE if he kills himself while taking you out.
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| #17 Posted on 1.2.02 1250.47 | Basically, GTA3 is one of the best games I've ever played. I love it, and it completely changed my mind about how much the PS2 sucked (that and Devil May Cry, yeah it was short, but everything you did in that game made you look like a total badass). Now if only Rockstar/Take Two could work out a deal to bring their badass games to Nintendo, I would be sooooooo happy. On the flip-side of that, if Microsoft buys Take Two, I will be very very pissed.
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| #18 Posted on 4.2.02 0310.36 | Instant Rating: 8.00 | My next stupid question:
I just did the El Burro missions, then Turismo came back up. Do El Burro's missions constantly repeat, or is it just Turismo that is available so you can improve your time?
If it's just Turismo then I think I've got Portland cracked and can move on to the next island.
Thanks!
"Nobody enjoys a good time more than I do, but this business of yours is as legitimate as a three-legged donkey...which of course is illegitimate because as we all know donkeys have four legs."
Lance Storm, 21st January 2002.
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| #19 Posted on 4.2.02 0827.40 | Originally posted by Qubber
My next stupid question:
I just did the El Burro missions, then Turismo came back up. Do El Burro's missions constantly repeat, or is it just Turismo that is available so you can improve your time?
If it's just Turismo then I think I've got Portland cracked and can move on to the next island.
Thanks!
Turismo will continuously repeat, so that you can try again and get a faster time. You only need to complete it once to get credit for the mission, however.
In Portland, you'll find that Turismo, Mafia Massacre, Diablo Destruction and Patriot Playground will repeat.
It's a very good thing that Turismo repeats, BTW, because that gives you extra opportunities to capture a bulletproof/fireproof/explosion-proof Cheetah, which can be very useful for some missions late in the game...
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| #20 Posted on 4.2.02 0936.24 | Instant Rating: 8.00 | Originally posted by vsp
...you'll find that Turismo, Mafia Massacre, Diablo Destruction and Patriot Playground will repeat.
vsp, you are a God amongst men. Thanks for keeping on answering these. I'm not familiar with Mafia Massacre, Diablo Destruction and Patriot Playground. Are they missions you get in Portland (maybe I shouldn't be leaving yet)? I've done (or at least think I've done) Tony's missions, Joey's missions, the phone by Joey's missions, El Burro's missions, Salvatore's missions except one and that first guy's missions.
Thanks.
"Nobody enjoys a good time more than I do, but this business of yours is as legitimate as a three-legged donkey...which of course is illegitimate because as we all know donkeys have four legs."
Lance Storm, 21st January 2002.
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