As far as my thoughts go, I'm really looking forward to camping out for two of these. One with the intention of me using and the second with the intention of me selling on ebay. Depending on what happens with the one that is being sold, I might sell the other.
My guess is that the market is really asking for something like this. Most have experienced the Wii already. They like it but want a little bit more. Microsoft promises to give that little bit more that people desire. Getting closer and closer to virtual reality is the key to where gaming is likely to go.
The Wii showed me that I love the technology, but I prefer the couch. When Project Natal rolls out, things like navigating through Netflix and other built in menu's will just annoy me in the end. Instant recognition is really cool though.
Anyhow, I am pretty psyched about this latest and greatest toy. I'm not so psyched to give my life for it. However history shows that waiting in line to take advantage of the early adopters just might pay off. Looking forward to camping out for this one during the holidays.
What are your thoughts on this?
---- also, that wannabe skater kid just annoyed me in that commercial. Is it just me getting old and realizing I shouldn't be into games anymore? ----
While it is a great idea in theory (and always has been), I'm going to take a "wait and see" approach to Natal. As someone who remembers his experience with the Power Glove and some of the frustrations associated with the responsiveness of the Wii controls in some games, I don't see how this becomes "THE industry changing peripheral". As Alex said, there are some things that are better left to using a standard controller.
"What you don't understand, you can make mean anything." -Palahniuk
You guys are boring sticks in the mud. I'm 100% on board with the OP, this thing is going to be amazing. I sold my launch day 360 a long time ago but I'm going to have to buy another one just for this.
I remember getting a link to this site like 10 months ago from a former microsoft employee friend of mine. he was very excited. It was the same video linked above, and while I have many of the same questions, I'll just copy/paste a chat I had with my brother (Terry) back then as we watched it.
to sum up: it might be kinda cool for a handful of niche games, but it's hard to see how this would work for many styles of games (namely sports, which are more or less the only ones we play). my friend is no longer a microsoft employee but he was borderline offended at how negative we were towards this and basically sounds like the OP of this thread.
Terry: pretty crazy. sucks that the target market is teenagers and their parents. that leaves us out...
me: cool teenagers...with shaggy hair and skateboards. i wonder how a baseball game would work though...or a basketball game! how the hell would a football game work?
Terry: I guess I just don't see the appeal of not holding anything. Like I would rather have an actual bat or golf club or steering wheel...
me: not sure why but patrick is getting fired up because of how it'll affect rated MA games. like...GTA i guess. i'm not sure how it'd work tho. maybe for first person shooters i could see it...
Terry: I'm sure it would be awesome with your TV
surprised there wasn't a disclaimer: "the Xbox Natal Project only works on HDTVs running 1080p and >50 inches"
Terry: I just love how easy they make everything look in the commercials. I guess it works, but you would think people would go, "Yah, I'm sure it's that easy to start talking to my friend through the TV and she can show me some random dress she saw..."
me: yeah...and what the hell, most of those games looked fake
what the hell was that dinosaur game
Terry: hahah! What happens when the kid needs to move back? Does the dinosaur move back?
me: of course!
kid burps, the dino starts breathing fire
Terry: What if the kid runs in circles?
What about when people are talking while someones trying to answer the quiz game?
me: hmm yeah...lots of questions coming up
i wonder if it'll only apply to certain games that are like specifically made for it...like the NES light gun...only a few games actually used it
Terry: How do you make a diving stop in the soccer game without actually diving?
me: you can't!
What if the daughter kicked it the left and the mom had to dive, knock her daughter down to stop it. Would she then run around the couch taunting her daughter?
me: haha i remember that
that son should get a damn haircut!
Terry: skate or die man...
me: and how did it scan his board when he had both hands covering up parts of it?
and how the hell can it work that fast? you just hold it up and it's instantly scanned?
Terry: Why would you even scan your board???
me: so you can use it in "Generic Skateboarding Game"
Terry: you'll be able to scan your old baseball glove! Then not actually use it when playing Generic Baseball Game.
me: yeah...like i said, i gotta see this being used live, not in some edited video with fake tv footage
Terry: It may be worth it if we can play some family feud through xbox live! And I don't have to spell words correctly in order to get the answer right.
me: yeah i think the voice recognition could be cool. "play movie", "goodnight (console turns off)", "i need to take a piss (game pauses)", "this game is too hard (game decreases difficulty)"...could also be fun to fuck with people.
you're in the middle of some game and i say "good night!" and the game turns off.
Terry: Haha, that would be funny. Or you're playing the middle of a baseball game, claire's going to bed, you say goodnight and bam, it turns off.
(I'm sure it's not instant like that, but funny idea in the head)
me: ...the cat meows and it mistakes it for some high-pitched command
or even funnier, mistakes it for something not even close to correct...like "goodnight" and the game turns off instantly
Terry: or it walks by you and all of the sudden your tennis player is being controlled by the cat..
me: just walks off the court
i'd almost get fired up for it if it simply made stupid mistakes like that for the lol potential
i can't wait to chat with you and have you try on some of my clothes...wonder if i can scan the cat and you can chat with her too!
Terry: "Let me see how I look with your rockstar hat on..."
me: i bet scanning the cat is easy...i just hold her up, say "scan" and BAM, i can play as my cat!
the more i think of it, the less i think it could work well
Terry: just the thought you holding your cat up with some dumb look on its face as you yell out "scan!" is worth it.
me: and of course it'll know to scan the cat and not my face that's next to it
btu i def wanna scan my face with my rockstar hat on and use it as an avatar
Terry: I want to be there when claire walks in and you've moved all the furniture away and are on your hands and knees walking around like a cat...
"i'm uhh...playing video games, what does it look like i'm doing?!"
Terry: Everyday she comes home you have all the furniture moved away, blocking the entrance to the kitchen.
me: that'd be funny if it wasn't always the other way around...usually she's always home when i get home
i guess the weekend
Terry: What if you want to play music while you're playing some video game?
Was talking to a buddy of mine who works at Gamestop yesterday and I was asking him about the Project Natal.
He said it's the absolute real deal and does exactly everything you see in the trailer. I told him how skeptical I was. He told me he was too until he had too go to a Gamestop conference in Pittsburgh with a bunch of other Gamestop store representatives for the Project Natal. The conference was so the employees could be familiar with the system so that they could explain it to the customers back at their stores.
He said they had one there set up and everyone got to use it for at least 10 minutes. He told me he couldn't believe how smooth and fluid it was and that it made the Wii look like a piece of shit. He said he tried everything he could to see if he could get it to drag or delay his reactions and he couldn't.
He said all the other Gamestop employees were like him and absolutely buzzing after using it and saying how unbelievably great it worked and nobody had a single complaint about it.
When I asked about the game selection for it, he said that they plan on having about 20 games out for it right away, with that rising to 60 games within 4 to 6 months of it's release. He mentioned that there will be all different sports games released for it (they had a baseball game, hockey game and a Tiger Woods game among the demos that the employees could try out) and will also eventually have shooter games for the system (which I had wanted to know).
He said he most definitely was getting one and STRONGLY recommended that I sign up to reserve one too. This will be the item this Christmas that people will be killing each other for and overpaying tons of money on Ebay to get.
Just want everyone to know that this guy isn't the type of guy who will bullshit you so he can make a sale. I wish I had a dollar every time he stopped me from buying something at Gamestop because he felt it was a piece of shit and I would be disappointed with it.
Originally posted by Joseph Ryderi gotta see this being used live, not in some edited video with fake tv footage
Ding Ding Ding!
I mean, good for everyone who's feeling optimistic about this, but I'm going to need to be convinced. The Wii had to convince me too (and it did), but even if Natal works exactly as promised, it still needs to be fun, and that's another issue entirely.
Also, the house in the video is like the nicest house I've ever seen. Makes me wonder what the price point on this thing is going to be.
That was actually pretty cool, mostly because it seemed very honest. I saw not just Natal's potential in that video, but also some of the potential problems the system might have (i.e., responsiveness with regards to Burnout). It does make it seem much more like something I'd be interested in. Although I am still concerned about the price point.
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