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And there it is. (ABC News)

Can we please end the "birther" nonsense now? You too, Donald Trump, trying to take credit for this.



(edited by The Thrill on 27.4.11 0923)




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I've found The Trumpy the Clown Show to be an amusing diversion the past few weeks. I can't take anything Trump does or says seriously. I think I may even miss his goofiness when the real election season starts (without him).



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It all could have ended with the Meredith on the Today show a few weeks ago by actually pointing out the simplest facts about this issue instead letting him plow right through her. I guess she is quitting soon and mailed it in. It help give credence to his claims and now hopefully this will be the end of it. I just wish someone would ask Trump how he is able to handle a budget since he declares bankruptcy every five years to keep a float.



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    Originally posted by The Thrill
    And there it is. (ABC News)

    Can we please end the "birther" nonsense now? You too, Donald Trump, trying to take credit for this.



    (edited by The Thrill on 27.4.11 0923)


End? Of course not! The birthers weren't convinced by his previous birth certificate release and judging by the comments on every news site, they still aren't convinced by this one.

I thought the Republican response was interesting. Complaining that Obama was wasting time on the birth certificate issue took some serious balls.
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
      Originally posted by The Thrill
      And there it is. (ABC News)

      Can we please end the "birther" nonsense now? You too, Donald Trump, trying to take credit for this.



      (edited by The Thrill on 27.4.11 0923)


    End? Of course not! The birthers weren't convinced by his previous birth certificate release and judging by the comments on every news site, they still aren't convinced by this one.

    I thought the Republican response was interesting. Complaining that Obama was wasting time on the birth certificate issue took some serious balls.


They are the same people who think 2012 is going to happen or May 11, 2011? Seriously, what the fuck is this 5-11-11? Those people will not be convinced until Rush or Glenn or whatever other money grubbing jerk-off tells them its real. Now, they will just look more idiotic then usually if that is all possible.



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So his mom's name was Stanley?
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Yeah, apparently her dad really wanted a boy. (true story) :)



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    Originally posted by dwaters
    So his mom's name was Stanley?


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    Originally posted by The Thrill
    Can we please end the "birther" nonsense now? You too, Donald Trump, trying to take credit for this.


My personal favorite part of that entire bit was Trump shilling for the season finale of Celebrity Apprentice, where he would announce whether he'd run for president. Will he? Won't he? You'll have to tune in to find out!

He's a buffoon, but not as buffoonish as CNN and their ilk for wasting everyone's time with this nonsense while simultaneously wagging their fingers at people for wasting everyone's time with this nonsense! If it's not a story, DON'T COVER IT! It's as simple as that! Really!

(edited by It's False on 27.4.11 2052)


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Not to perpetuate this nonsense, but isn't that a "certificate of live birth", which is what the birthers have been stressing the whole time is somehow not a birth certificate? In other words, isn't this what he'd already released in the first place?





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    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad

    Not to perpetuate this nonsense, but isn't that a "certificate of live birth", which is what the birthers have been stressing the whole time is somehow not a birth certificate? In other words, isn't this what he'd already released in the first place?




Sure. A Certificate of Live Birth was always a birth certificate. I don't know if anyone even made that distinction until the Donald got involved. The real "issue" was that most states now issue computer-generated certificates rather than one that actually reproduces the form that you got when you were born, and the birthers wanted to see the more traditional one. (Well, of course, that's not the REAL issue, but that's what they were claiming the issue was.)

Now Trump is shifting his focus to claim that Obama wasn't a good enough student (read: he wasn't of a privileged enough class) to get into Harvard Law, implying that he needed affirmative action. I'd say that if affirmative action was needed to get someone into Harvard Law who became president of the Law Review and graduated Magna Cum Laude--not to mention who went on to become a constitutional law professor, a Nobel laureate, and leader of the free world--than how can anyone be against affirmative action?
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    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    Now Trump is shifting his focus to claim that Obama wasn't a good enough student (read: he wasn't of a privileged enough class) to get into Harvard Law, implying that he needed affirmative action.


Wait, really? Now the argument is over grades? After we just had a C student running this country (into the ground?) for eight years?

The "C" is for Cowboy!



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The "C" is for the American public are Catfish. The Test Pattern today shows $6 somewhere - I told CRZ the other day that it was close to that at the Orlando airport and at Disney (hey that's in One Question, too!)

I'm glad this one is better. And if it's YOU (this has to be SF), wait till we have 'lectric cars! Power bill!

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    Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
    The "C" is for the American public are Catfish. The Test Pattern today shows $6 somewhere - I told CRZ the other day that it was close to that at the Orlando airport and at Disney (hey that's in One Question, too!)

    I'm glad this one is better. And if it's YOU (this has to be SF), wait till we have 'lectric cars! Power bill!

    FLEA(edited by RYDER FAKIN on 28.4.11 1630)


And if Obama did something like try to rein in oil speculation to hold down runaway prices, his critics would cry SOCIALISM! at the top of their lungs. (Then again, they'd do that if he was breathing the same air as anyone else.)

But that's another topic. Someone's going to gin up some controversy about Obama and the media's going to give it disproportionate attention, because that's what they do: report on things as if there is two sides that merit equal time, even if they don't.





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    Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
    The "C" is for the American public are Catfish. The Test Pattern today shows $6 somewhere - I told CRZ the other day that it was close to that at the Orlando airport and at Disney (hey that's in One Question, too!)

    I'm glad this one is better. And if it's YOU (this has to be SF), wait till we have 'lectric cars! Power bill!

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    (edited by RYDER FAKIN on 28.4.11 1630)
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Is there any reason that when the very first inkling of doubt about Obama's place of birth was vocalized by the Republicans/Tea Party folks, Obama didn't just immediately release whatever indisputable proof was necessary to squash the claims? It seems like this stuff has gone on for a long time and it should have been dealt with much, much earlier. To my sensibilities, "we do not have time for this kind of silliness" should have been a line given in a quick speech many months ago.



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    Originally posted by samoflange
    Is there any reason that when the very first inkling of doubt about Obama's place of birth was vocalized by the Republicans/Tea Party folks, Obama didn't just immediately release whatever indisputable proof was necessary to squash the claims? It seems like this stuff has gone on for a long time and it should have been dealt with much, much earlier. To my sensibilities, "we do not have time for this kind of silliness" should have been a line given in a quick speech many months ago.


Its mainly due to the fact that the birth certificate Obama gave when running is accepted everywhere. Its only due to the fact that he is dad was from Keyna and Obama needed to do himself not through other parties. He probably should have done it during the campaign, but there really was no point. The new thing now is Obama is called African American not Negro on the certificate, so it must be a fake. Anyone affiliated now looks like a tin foil cult member as they should be.



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    Originally posted by samoflange
    Is there any reason that when the very first inkling of doubt about Obama's place of birth was vocalized by the Republicans/Tea Party folks, Obama didn't just immediately release whatever indisputable proof was necessary to squash the claims?


PUMAs(Party United My Ass, AKA Hillary Supporters)_ were the ones who came up with this nonsense (and yes, although I'm conservative on a lot of issues, I know this is CRAP)

I am not sure why everybody is taking such cheer in Trump getting "owned", when he was only saying what thousands of other people were saying, only he had the media attention.

Not to go into too many conspiracies, but I think Trump was banging on this issue so that the birth certificate WOULD be put out, and put to rest, so that it wouldn't be a "distraction" that Obama could play off of come campaign time.


As far as Trump asking about the college records, there's plenty of valid reasons for asking for them, least of all the "he was a poor student" angle. Every other President has released theirs, so what's the problem?
And, in case some don't know, the big question is HOW Barrack got into those schools (what strings were pulled and by whom), and who paid for it. And again, i think it's a ruse to get all the conspiracy theory crap out of the way, so that the GOP (and Apparently Ralph Nader) can hammer him on all of his REAL failures and inability to lead, instead of made up nonsense.
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I find it much more likely that Trump has no actual stances on any issues and is simply banging whatever drum that will allow him to stay in the media spotlight longer and garner bigger ratings for his show.

A thought that fits much more easily into the narrative of Donald Trump's life rather than "Jump on the Crazy Grenade for the Sake of the GOP Primary".
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