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Since: 6.1.02
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Alright, this has been annoying for a bit, so I thought I'd share.

Have you all seen the "pot's not as harmless as you think" commercials? Do you think they're as idiotic and dishonest as I do?

My favorite one is the kid who shoots his friend while high. Ok #1, please find me a report of ONE TIME when someone has shot their friend because he was high. Drunk, sure (even NBA stars do it), but high?

Second, what the hell kind of message does this send? "if you're going to keep a loaded, unlocked handgun in the house, make sure your kids aren't smoking weed so their judgement isn't impared when they find it." Lord knows I'm not one of those anti-gun fanatics, but really, the message in the commercial is that POT's the problem with this scenario?



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Even though it doesn't say much, they are an improvement over the ones that debuted at the Super Bowl. But really, do these ads stop ANYONE from using drugs?

Could be worse... we could be talking about those "VERB" commercials. -_-



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#3 Posted on

    Originally posted by drjayphd
    they are an improvement over the ones that debuted at the Super Bowl.


Would those be ads that equated buying drugs with supporting terrorism? Because those ones were by far the stupidest ads i've ever seen.
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    Originally posted by anibanging

      Originally posted by drjayphd
      they are an improvement over the ones that debuted at the Super Bowl.


    Would those be ads that equated buying drugs with supporting terrorism? Because those ones were by far the stupidest ads i've ever seen.



Yeah. They actually used to have footage of planes flying into buildings, but they had to take it out because they couldn't prove drug money supported the hijackers.



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I love the line about "pot is addictive." Bullshit! I am sorry, I wasa serious pothead at one point, and one day- bam- I was done with it. No withdrawals, no nothing. Smoking CIGARETTES on the otherhand, is most DEFINITLY addictive. I still can't quit that shit, and I really want to.
Yes, pot is a habit, but not addictive at all. I love the blatant lies these "anti-drug" companies spew. I mean, if you want to deter kids from the shit, that is fine, but how about using a little "truth" to get that done?




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Since: 28.4.02
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I'm going to say a very strange sentence right now, and I want everyone to understand the full ramifacations of it, and to realize that this may well be one of the signs of the Apocolypse, so I'd advice everyone to stock up on handguns and canned food. Brace yourselves:

Pool-Boy, I couldn't agree more.

I really hate those "This is Janie. This is the dimebag that Janie bought. This is the dealer that sold the dimebag that Janie bought" and onward and onward until we get to the family that was killed by drug cartel, and the only real meaning I can pull out of the commercial is "Boy, we should legalize pot and put this drug cartel out of business."

In fact, the only real reason pot is still illegal (considering it's so much less dangerous that cigarettes and alcohol - especially the latter), is because politicians (both stripes here) spend so much damned time courting the "concerned parent" vote.

And I'm far from a pothead myself. I don't think I've smoked a joint in... Wow, it's got to be a year and a half now. How the fuck is that possible? (I think I need to remedy that.)



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Since: 11.7.02
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I think the commercials themselves as made well. As an effective instrument of trying to actually get people to knock off the whacky tobbacky then they're bad...real bad.
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I always wonder if the adage "No press is bad press" applies for drugs as well. If it does, you could really see this as advertising FOR pot and other drugs.

Legitimate health studies probably would make boring ads, but at least they wouldn't "start the conversation" with the wrong people. I know people who take away a more pro-drug message when they see these rediculous anti-drug ads.

Just put the facts out there. If you don't have facts that back the "Drugs are Bad" message, maybe you should reconsider it?

Just stop frying eggs, showing hypothetical what-if scenarios, and blaming kids for terrorists. All those terrorist ads make me think is "See, this is why people should grow their own shit."

BTW I am not pro-drug. These ads just suck. I'd rather see Doctors on TV (Get Dr. Drew to do it) talking about the problems than trying to appeal to kids. Maybe it's working in Iowa, but it ain't working in California.



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Since: 2.1.02
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i see pot deals going down at my works parking lot. i see the kids coming into my store asking to use the phone or bathroom. i see them stumble around, say "wha?" alot and not know what the hell is going on because they can't keep their eyes open, and then try to drive home...

maybe not all pot heads are like that while high, but from my experience, pot should be regulated like alcohol, at the very least. the effects look the same to me.

I'm not pro drugs, but i think there are more "harder" drugs to go after than pot, like X ( or E as the kids call it now, but it was X back in my day), Coke, Meth, Acid, or the over the counter drugs that are being abused.



Here's a toss-up:

Should pot be regulated like in other countries for medical use only? Like make it a percription drug. Illegal to own, grow, use save for perscribed use.

I don't smoke it,(never have, never will) but i would support it. Think of the Taxes the state could levy




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Well, of course, if they legalize pot, it would still be illegal for someone under, I'm guessing, 21 to smoke it, and it would be illegal to drive while stoned, and I'm sure they'd have the same sort of laws they'd have for public drunkeness as well. Of course, it would need to be regulated just like our legal drugs.

TV commercials: Well, they certainly don't work. Your anti-smoking commercials are particularly bad, especially since most of them (with the exception of the equally annoying truth.com ones that are all over the WWE shows), are made by the tobacco companies and carry the underlying message, to me at least, of "the Man doesn't want you to smoke while you're still just a little kid", which seems to entice children to pick up a pack of cigarettes moreso than anything else.

And the thing about ecstacy - the kids won't believe how dangerous it is, because the same people who are telling them that it can kill them (and it sure as hell can), are also telling them that marijuana will lead them into a lifetime of drug addiction and that sex with a condom is just as likely to give you AIDS as sex without, and they know *that* is bullshit, so why wouldn't the teachers be lying to them about X?

(And I stand behind my original statement that ecstacy is a national treasure, if for no other reason than the sheer number of ravers it kills each year. You know, people like this guy: Click Here, or perhaps you could Click Here if that doesn't work.)



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The totally just need to get it over with and legalize the stuff. It is virtually impossible to overdose on THC, the quality of the product in a regulated situation would be safer, and the tax money we would make on it would do a lot.
I think the legal age SHOULD be 18 (I think the drinking age should be 18 too, but that is just me) but knowing the fedral government they would make it 21, and I am sure there is nothing that could be done about that.
One of the key issues I have always though is keeping Pot from being legal is the lack of a field-sobriety check for THC. There is currently no way for a cop to pull you over and test to see if you are high. You have to take a blood test, and that is impracticle and nearly impossible to impement. Once they solve that problem, I would imagine that you will see something of an increased movement for legalization...
And hell, if things go the way they are, tobacco will be illegal and pot will be legal. How is that for odd...




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Since: 2.1.02
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#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by Pool-Boy
    I love the line about "pot is addictive." Bullshit! I am sorry, I wasa serious pothead at one point, and one day- bam- I was done with it. No withdrawals, no nothing. Smoking CIGARETTES on the otherhand, is most DEFINITLY addictive. I still can't quit that shit, and I really want to.
    Yes, pot is a habit, but not addictive at all. I love the blatant lies these "anti-drug" companies spew. I mean, if you want to deter kids from the shit, that is fine, but how about using a little "truth" to get that done?



First, I'd like to apologize for making it sound like I'm supporting the so-called "War on Drugs" but I have to disagree with Pool-Boy here. There is convincing evidence that marijuana is addictive for about 10-12% percent of those who regularly use and/or abuse it. Addiction in this case is defined as both physical and psychological need for marijuana complete with physical withdrawal symptoms. The caveat to this study is that it required fairly heavy and regular use to develop addiction. My own personal experience suggests that pot is psychologically addictive since I knew/know several potheads who are simply unable to function without semi-regular smoking. Of course, I also walked away from pot smoking about 10 years ago and never looked back although it took me until May of this year to stop smoking cigarettes.
Now, having said that, I still think that our federal drug policy is seriously misguided when you consider that there is more research done on herbicides to kill marijuana and hemp plants than there is on the actual plants.

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
We can't legalize pot. Do you know how that would hurt tobacco consumption? And do you know how much money tobacco growers and cigarette companies give to the political parties?

The War on Drugs in a nutshell there. Health concerns and moral concerns are a smokescreen. Always follow the money.






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Since: 23.1.02
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#14 Posted on
Ah, but enterprising politicians of the future would do well to remember that Marijuana would probably sell at least as well as cigarettes and alcohol.

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Andyou would have to imagine that the tobacco companies already have the infastructure to grow pot... I would imagine they would welcome the new product addition that is free from the cigarette stigma...




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It's simple. Legalize it, regulate it, and tax the s**t out of it. What's the problem?

There's a comedian I've worked with, Todd Barry, who has a bit on how it's important to legalize marijuana but make it illegal to be a pothead.

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Since: 23.1.02
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#17 Posted on
And as far as I know, Marijuana doesn't ruin the soil like Tobacco does, so you would need less land to produce the same amount.

-Jag



With poison running through your veins, and death marching solemnly towards you, heroic acts become more of a necessity as you see your time dwindling.

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For the record I dont care either way about weed, Ive never smoked and I never will. The only thing that would bug me about legalization is the fact i dont want to go to a public place and have to deal with someone smoking weed (like a bar). That just bugs me. But I once read somewhere that even if weed was legalized, it wouldnt be available for sale in stores or whatever, because the FDA would never approve it. They say cigarrettes if introduced today, the FDA would never let it be sold because of all the health risks. So would weed pass? Because Ive heard that THC smoke is just as dangerous as cigarrette smoke.



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Since: 23.1.02
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#19 Posted on
Well, here in Chapel Hill, NC it's illegal to have a smoking section in your bar/resturaunt without a completely seperate ventilation system covering the smokers. So I think we've got that covered.

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With poison running through your veins, and death marching solemnly towards you, heroic acts become more of a necessity as you see your time dwindling.

Vanquishing your enemies, making amends to those you have wronged, and leaving words of love and kindness for those around you become second nature as your own mortality looms

However, true strength lies not in these last desperate acts, but in the actions of one who has to get out of bed the next day and face the consequences of doing that which you believe is right.
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#20 Posted on

    Originally posted by Pool-Boy
    Andyou would have to imagine that the tobacco companies already have the infastructure to grow pot.


You mean, DIRT and WATER?
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