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#121 Posted on

    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Jesus, you're all sick.

    That's it. You can't accept something like this, even in the world of pro wrestling? How about the fact that Meltzer has reportedly spoke to the police in the San Antonio area and verified that an incident did take lace? How about the fact that this hasn't been mentioned in any WWE outlet (ie. WWE.com)?

    One of the biggest things that annoys me about non-wrestling fans is their inability to accept when something's real, perhaps the biggest case of this being Owen Hart's death. And now look at us, sitting around here, picking holes in a story that's been verified by a TV station, by a police oficer, and by numerous wrestling websites. And yet, just because we still haven't heard anything in the mainstream media, why it's gotta be fake! I'm not condemning Steve-O, mainly because he hasn't been charged, but can't you accept that an incident DID take place? I mean shit, this is the real world; we're not talking about them "working the sheets". And think about this; if this WAS a work, then surely the purpose of it is to draw attention to the company. So surely, using the "no mainstream" point, the fed would have made sure that the story found it's way onto the newsdesk of every major paper.

    Fuck...

    What is going on here...



Let's continue the chop-logic....Meltzer must be in on it!

He was the first to report it, and he's the only person to claim to have had the Police report read to him. It's a big ole work, and it's leading to the formation of a new Four Horsemen at Survivor Series--Stone Cold, Bret Hart, Owen Hart (who was just faking) and Andy Kaufmann (ditto).

That was very heavy sarcasm, for the benefit of the humor-impaired.

We know that the cops were called out to the Austin household at 4AM, Debra showed signs of being hit, a brief report was filed, and a record made. Those are facts. Trying to discredit the news stories is just a bad case of shooting the messenger.

It's not all over CNN, because so far it's a minor domestic dispute that didn't require medical atttention involving a faded celebrity. Three or four years ago it would have been news, just because of Austin's involvement, now it's not that big a deal.

We'll learn more this week, if there is more to learn. At the very least, Austin or Debra should make a public statement, even if it's just "Leave us alone!"

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#122 Posted on
I have to agree with the wait and see sentiment. ONE local source has ran this story apparantly. This kind of story is something that would run at least around all of the local stations, even in a city S.A's size. I'm not saying that I dispute the evidence/stories brought forth so far...but if not one local outlet has picked up on it, and no national outlets have, might something be up?

Of course...all of this post could be irrelevant by the morning, when its in my newspaper or something.



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#123 Posted on
It seems like the artwork they came up with for Unforgiven 2001(?) is pretty fitting right now.

(edited by Jobberman on 17.6.02 0824)
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#124 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00

    Originally posted by Rex
    The story on the San Antonio TV station raises some serious questions. I'm a daily newspaper reporter, so I have a little credibility on these matters, though please know I'm not trying to put myself over.

    Aside from some serious grammatical issues in that brief bit on the Web site, I just don't believe that JR and Vince gave them those statements. There is no way they would repeat, verbatim, what they said on Confidential -- Vince wasn't talking about the supposed wife-hitting when he said it wasn't a publicity stunt; as we know, he was talking about Austin walking. For that TV station to try to pass it off as getting comments from Vince and JR is a major blow to their credibility, I believe, and should make us suspect of anything else they've said. The San Antonio Express-News is a good newspaper (it's not the one I work for). I think it will be important to see if there's something in there Monday morning.

    Having said that, some news outlets might be going with the idea that they're not going to touch this until someone is arrested or charged. That could be particularly true for a domestic assault issue. Then again, we've certainly seen it before (Warren Moon) where a charge wasn't needed for multiple media outlets to get involved.

    I'm not defending Austin or supporting him. Point is that what we're seeing from this TV station is sloppy at best.

    (edited by Rex on 16.6.02 2132)



Don't forget that wrestling is not considered mainstream and not worthy of mainstream coverage. Warren Moon was a more notable name and a sports figure while Steve Williams is looked at as an entertainer. Pro wrestling is not considered a sport.

As for the sloppy coverage, the only ones that know the complete story are Debra and Steve. Debra even said that she was hesitant to call because their notoriety and that this has happened int he past. Chances are there is not a lot of information available and what is available is sketchy at best. The WWE certainly is not going to leak anything and if Debra didn't mention it to any of her friends then information will be hard to come by.





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#125 Posted on
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Jesus, you're all sick.

    That's it. You can't accept something like this, even in the world of pro wrestling? How about the fact that Meltzer has reportedly spoke to the police in the San Antonio area and verified that an incident did take lace? How about the fact that this hasn't been mentioned in any WWE outlet (ie. WWE.com)?

    One of the biggest things that annoys me about non-wrestling fans is their inability to accept when something's real, perhaps the biggest case of this being Owen Hart's death. And now look at us, sitting around here, picking holes in a story that's been verified by a TV station, by a police oficer, and by numerous wrestling websites. And yet, just because we still haven't heard anything in the mainstream media, why it's gotta be fake! I'm not condemning Steve-O, mainly because he hasn't been charged, but can't you accept that an incident DID take place? I mean shit, this is the real world; we're not talking about them "working the sheets". And think about this; if this WAS a work, then surely the purpose of it is to draw attention to the company. So surely, using the "no mainstream" point, the fed would have made sure that the story found it's way onto the newsdesk of every major paper.

    Fuck...

    What is going on here...



ABC, CNN, NBC, and the rest are going to want 100% confirmation before the print the story. Can you think of any industry that is more likely the pro wrestling to make up a story? I don't think it's real but that doesn't mean the network execs want to make sure.
Sorry I meant I don't think it's fake.

(edited by Dahak on 17.6.02 1641)


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#126 Posted on
Well, the local news station reported the story, so they can't count as confirmation on whether or not it happened. Meltzer's been fooled by false reports by different peple in the past, and even saying "Meltzer reportedly spoke to police" means that we don't even know what happened with THAT. As far as "wrestling news sites" being bastions of proof and integrity in reporting, always backing up their claims with heavy follow-up... I'll leave that one alone.

Hell, to be honest, I wouldn't be 100% surprised to find out Vince had someone in Texas call the news station with "breaking news" about their neighbors, just to teach Austin a lesson about leaving. We all know Vince is about as vindictive as they come.

Why can't we all wait to see what comes of this before we make this into a 500 post thread? I mean, let's be honest. This ENTIRE thread is coming from ONE local hick station's nightly news report. It's not like CNN is reporting the end of the WWE or anything.

Oh, and by the way. The WWE *won't* be going out of business anytime soon. It's not a company that can be shut down by it's owner like WCW was. It will never die. I don't care if it comes down to Vince wrestling Shane in their backyard using his camcorder to cover the action, anyone who thinks Vince would EVER shut things down doesn't know his stubborness enough. There's no point in the "the sky is falling" posts.


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#127 Posted on
Cynical bunch of bastards, aren't we?

The KMOL report is all I needed to see. I believe this is true, because I can't believe a NBC affliate in a pretty major market would just make the story up. And I also can't believe that station wouldn't confirm the story with local police, which I'm sure an NBC affliate news organization would have regular contact with. And while I'm no big fan of 1.bob, I do think they are capable of calling the police as well.

And this will probably be all we get. It's not really that big of a story in the grand scheme of things. #1 Austin is no longer a star, #2 No one was even arrested or charged, which adds up to #3 There really isn't much of a story to tell. No crime, no story. That's why I think most of the media, even local, are going to take a pass on this. If someone was charged, then I think there would be news coverage on the local level. So in the end, the story can be true, AND nothing will come of it.

(BTW, I thought San Antonio was a little big to be called a hick town. Also, is there any reason that CNN would be any more credible than the smallest of stations. I'm not sure size matters)
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#128 Posted on
Well, Tony Bruno talked about it this morning on his national radio show. I didn't hear it, but I guess he called Austin a coward. Anyway, if this IS a work (and I have 0% belief that it is) then people are going to be in trouble now. It's going national slowly...

Oh my Columbus Dispatch had a story in the Accent about Austin walking out on Monday because he was upset that Flair was jobbing to Vince. So, mainstream media...well, you know.



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#129 Posted on
hi, guys. i never wrote down my password so i needed to re-register to post this.

i am tremendously saddened by this news. i am disappointed and i feel cheated. i was never the greatest fan of stone cold but he excelled as an emissary for this form of entertainment. now he is another example of how pro wrestling can kill a person inside. he is a big black eye on the face of this business.

the absolute worst thing about this is the fact that debra has bruises on HER BACK. this disturbed man not only hit his wife, but he hit when she was down and covering herself. it is sickening and it disgusts me.

the way he came back from his first neck injury was inspiring for me. after being paralyzed in the ring he came back with a character that was not only bigger than it had ever been, but bigger than anyone who had ever come before him. now this.

for as entertaining as his second come back and heel turn was, i wish he'd stayed away. i wish he had signed up with CBS for the once-rumored Walker: Texas Ranger spin off. i wish he hadn't kept bumping on his fused vertebrae. there is no doubt in my mind that steve's problems are the result of an addiction to pain killers.

i'm not a religious man but i pray we'll hear the news that steve has made contact with his family and checked himself into a detox center. i hope he gets therapy. i hope he stays out of the ring for a long, long time.

one of the worse aspects for me is that, after reading so many posts from the skeptical fan about how this is a work, i find myself hoping that this is in fact real. somehow it is a better thing in my mind that this man actually did beat his wife than the wwe lying about it this way and using it for a story. somehow it is less of a black eye on this business. it's difficult for me to get my mind around that.

when i watched the first part of the Confidential interviews, i was convinced steve's walking out was part of a storyline. vince and jim never looked at the camera when they discussed his leaving. their eyes darted from side to side and they blinked too often. i was convinced they weren't telling the truth. they weren't, but the lie was that the situation was much worse than they were letting on.

i don't know any of these people personally but this has affected me deeply.
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#130 Posted on
I've spent a couple of years on the cops beat (as a reporter), and it was a policy at our newspaper to not run an item unless a person was charged with a felony. That could be why it's not popping up on major media outlets.That said, Austin's celebrity status could make for an exception. I've checked the AP wire today and so far, nothing.

But all of this should be pretty easily verified with one phone call to San Antonio police. They would have some sort of incident report. I agree with Rex that TV reporting can be sloppy, but I doubt they're just making this up.




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#131 Posted on

    Originally posted by rikidozan
    has anyone thought of calling them and claiming to be a webmaster that wants to use the info, but wants to check fact?


I would, but seeing as how that'd be a long distance phone call for me, and I don't even know the number, it'd be pretty futile.



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#132 Posted on
Just so you know, another of the local San Antonio radio stations, WOAI is running the story, still saying "alleged to have beaten is wife", on the front page of their website.



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#133 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.46


    Jackson said:

      While you are at it let's not forget the fact that if Steve Williams hauled off and slugged Debra in her eye she would not have a welt under it but they would still be looking for it under the cowhide sofa after the eyeball exited out of the back of her skull.




Right. Have you ever actually been in a fistfight?

Mike Tyson hit his wife with what he sickly called the best punch he ever threw. If the heavyweight champion of the world didn't kill his wife with a punch, I have trouble believing that a guy who throws worked punches for a living would ``knock an eye out.''

Some say Tyson's star was shot the minute he assaulted his wife (it was well before the rape incident, as I recall). Assuming Austin had any kind of name left given the events of last week, it's shot to shit now.




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#134 Posted on
MTV.com has picked up the story as well in their news section.



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#135 Posted on
OK, now that the shock has worn off, I guess I'll put in my 2 cents:

- No matter what happens, if all of this is true, you cannot look at him the same. Steve Williams has joined the ranks of Bobby Hull, Warren Moon, Jason Kidd and Bobby Cox as wife beaters. Add that to the fact that he's a 250+ muscled athelete and she's about 120 soaking wet only makes him more of a monster. And if this is true, that's what he is. I've seen the effects of physical and mental abuse have done to women. 2 very good female friends of mine had to deal with physical abuse and I could see in their eyes the pain they went through. The most disturbing fact is how these women make excuses for their men and somehow try to "stick by their man", hoping that the person that they first got with will come back. To me, you MAY forgive that once, but if it's a pattern, there is no forgiveness. Debra apparently indicated that this wasn't the first time, so I hope that Debra gets out before something worse happens. As for Austin, let's hope that he gets help. North America tends to be very forgiving when it comes to our celebrities. Everyone from Robert Downey Jr. to Darryl Strawberry have been given numerous chances to come back and we have welcomed them with open arms. They forgave J-Kidd, they can forgive Austin. But he's tainted. Actually, what I'd like to know from all the females in the forum, if he did come back in time, would you cheer for him?

- As of now, they still haven't found him. This is an awful thing to say, but let's just hope they find him alive. Austin has lost his job, labeled as an abuser and probably (hopefully) feels terrible. I just hope he doesn't decide to end it all.

- What's disappointing is the fact that a man who should have been the rule to the exception became the rule. Wrestlers have never been able to walk away, it seems, with their reputations intact. There never seems to be a good ending. Superstar Billy Graham, Dynamite Kid, Bret Hart (to a lesser extent). Austin should have been one of those people who took all the millions he had, gone down the San Antonio and just lived out his life. And now this. Very dissapointing.

- One last thing. In a year, it's possible that Steve Austin, Bill Goldberg, Mick Foley, Jeff Jarett and Dwayne Johnson won't be under contract with the WWE. And Fox is always looking for programming. Just saying...



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#136 Posted on
    Originally posted by tomvejada
    MTV.com has picked up the story as well in their news section.


And it's buried under a story about Dave Grohl vs. Courtney Love. I bet they wouldn't even have mentioned it if Austin wasn't "one-time co-host of Celebrity Deathmatch".

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#137 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
Well - now we have a police report to go along with coverage by multiple media outlets. No wire service coverage yet, but that may come later.

Now Austin truly looks like an out-of-control thug.

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#138 Posted on
So since Debra is NOT pressing charges as of yet does this mean that Austin is wanted by the police or not? He didn't comply with their requests to go back home, but can he be considered a fugitive if she isn't going to press charges? I wonder if there will be any kind of charges for not obeying the police's orders.
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#139 Posted on

    Originally posted by Stephanie
    Well - now we have a police report to go along with coverage by multiple media outlets. No wire service coverage yet, but that may come later.

    Now Austin truly looks like an out-of-control thug.

    Steph



Ayep. Remember when I said I'd be the first to cry for his blood once I was convinced?

Put me down for "Let's see some Austin blood." That police report kinda hard-sells you.

There was a hope that if all he did was walk out we could remember Austin as a great performer who left under a could. Now all he is or will ever be is a psycho, a wife-beater, and a criminal.

He worked ten-plus years to build a legend and wrecked it in a week.




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#140 Posted on
WOAI appears to be affiliated with KMOL. The 4Warn link leads back to the NBC4 KMOL site.

This is still one report in my mind.



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