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Evil empire wins.

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Beast Mode. 2 Yards to win the Superbowl.

Yeah, throw the fucking ball. Why not?




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They even had a Time Out left. If you think they are all in run stop run the read option.
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Gut wrenching loss for the Seahawks. Packer fans know how that feels. Kharma.
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    Kharma.

I don't see what she has to do with it. Nor karma.

Shame Bennett had to go offsides like that at the end. I was looking forward to seeing what the Pats did.
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Did Belichek KNOW there was going to be an interception??? After the Kearse catch, I was arguing that the Pats should have let Seattle score since it would give NE as much time as possible to come back down the field (and they'd only need a field goal unless Seattle went for two). Even after they stopped Lynch on the next play, I still thought Belicheck should have at least burned a time out instead of letting Seattle drain the clock down to 30 seconds. But he does not call a time out and then Carroll wastes what otherwise seemed like a pre-ordained miracle.

Carroll's call at the end was obtuse, and I doubt he ever gets too cute in any situation like that again, but Belichek's odd clock management sticks out just as much for me.





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Darrell Bevell, not Pete Carroll, is the playcaller, and is the one who will never live this one down. Totally outthought himself there... you give that one to Lynch every time and if you do, Seattle is probably still the champs.

OTOH, this is just going to make Seattle madder and hungrier even more to get back to the big game next year, and I'd be worried if I was the rest of the NFL.



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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
      Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Kharma.

    I don't see what she has to do with it. Nor karma.

    Shame Bennett had to go offsides like that at the end. I was looking forward to seeing what the Pats did.

Yeah, I spelled it wrong. Did you miss the message? Seattle got here on the strength of a gut wrenching loss by the Packers. So gut wrenching that this Packer fan could root for the Patriots (or against the Seahawks).

Seahawks fans now get to know how it feels.
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In the end it was coaching that made the difference. This is the best win yet. For the Pats After the third quarter I was wondering how hard it must have been to be a Bills fan in the 90s, as it looked like Tom and company were ready to implode. Terrible goal line call, but who loses Super Bowls to helmet catches and guys laying down on the ground? The Fucking Pats.

To me this completes The Patriots legacy. I don't care what comes after. It also completes my heel turn as a Seahawk season ticket holder from 96-99. One more for the bad guys.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.81
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly


    OTOH, this is just going to make Seattle madder and hungrier even more to get back to the big game next year, and I'd be worried if I was the rest of the NFL.



Even with a new DEF coordinator and no Beast Mode?
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    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    Did Belichek KNOW there was going to be an interception??? After the Kearse catch, I was arguing that the Pats should have let Seattle score since it would give NE as much time as possible to come back down the field (and they'd only need a field goal unless Seattle went for two). Even after they stopped Lynch on the next play, I still thought Belicheck should have at least burned a time out instead of letting Seattle drain the clock down to 30 seconds. But he does not call a time out and then Carroll wastes what otherwise seemed like a pre-ordained miracle.

    Carroll's call at the end was obtuse, and I doubt he ever gets too cute in any situation like that again, but Belichek's odd clock management sticks out just as much for me.



Brilliantly stated.

This is the problem with the vast majority of mainstream sports analysis and history-telling. We're more or less going to completely gloss over the fact that Belichick grossly mismanaged the clock at the end. Sure, you can argue that if Seattle scores there there's like a less than 1% chance the Pats can win, but as a coach you have to do whatever maximizes your chance to win. So if burning timeouts there raises your chance from 0.01% to 0.75%, you burn the damn timeouts.

But instead, Darrell Bevell makes a pretty egregious call and renders Belichick's mistake moot. We forget that it happened and forever going forth we remember Belichick as the genius coach who beat the defending champs to win his fourth Super Bowl.

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    Originally posted by texasranger9
    Even with a new DEF coordinator and no Beast Mode?

Seems as though the only way Lynch doesn't come back is if he decides to retire. Schneider's on record as offering him a big contract extension.

And yes, Quinn will be gone, but Carroll's the true mastermind of the D and I'm sure whoever replaces him in-house will be up to the task.



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Lions lose in heartbreaking fashion to Dallas, Dallas loses a heart breaker to the Packers, Packers lose epic heart breaker to Seattle, Seattle loses heart breaker to New England.....Wow.





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    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    Carroll's call at the end was obtuse, and I doubt he ever gets too cute in any situation like that again, but Belichek's odd clock management sticks out just as much for me.


Remember the Patriots screwed up the kneeldown routine at the end of the Ravens game, giving Flacco one more shot at a hail mary. The clock isn't Belichick's friend.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.42
Even though it wasn't Carroll making the playcall, this was still a really good thread title.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
      Originally posted by texasranger9
      Even with a new DEF coordinator and no Beast Mode?

    Seems as though the only way Lynch doesn't come back is if he decides to retire. Schneider's on record as offering him a big contract extension.

    And yes, Quinn will be gone, but Carroll's the true mastermind of the D and I'm sure whoever replaces him in-house will be up to the task.

Is Lynch on record accepting the offer? They tried to trade him the week after Harvin. He's done in Seattle.
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Playcaller be damned. Pete Carroll is the head coach. If he didn't want to run that play at the goal line, the OC would have been told to call something else.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.27
For what was supposed to be a player's game, it actually seems to revolve entirely around a coaching decision.

What if Lynch fumbled?



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
    Originally posted by Lexus
    What if Lynch fumbled?


Its possible, but everyone would credit the Patriots with making a play when they needed to rather than blame the Seahawks for having a brain fart. Marshawn Lynch was one of the (two? three?) best running backs in the league this year. If you can't trust him to get you two yards and not fumble to close out the Super Bowl, who can you trust?



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Now, since it's been proven that Seattle is a bunch of classless, overrated egos, maybe the media can stop trying to make them out to be the second coming of Jesus.

On the plus side, seeing Sherman pouting and moping on the sidelines is the best gift ever.

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