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The Shield vs. Evolution, No Holds Barred Elimination Match: The Shield wins.

John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt, Last Man Standing Match: Cena Wins.

Bad News Barrett vs. Rob Van Dam, Intercontinental Championship Match: BNB defends the title with the elbow.

Sheamus vs. Cesaro, United States Championship Match:Sheamus takes the match with a quick rollup.

Paige vs. Alicia Fox, Divas Championship Match: Paige Retains via tapout.

The Rhodes Brothers v RyBaxle: RyBaxle.

Big E. vs. Rusev: Rusev wins

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
Rusev looks like a monster, but sold a little. I know Big E is a legit big guy, but you don't let the monster lose any heat. Match did feature the first HOLY SHIT moment with Big E spearing Rusev who was on the apron, and both went clear back to the retaining wall.

The Shield comes out looking so strong. Seth Rollins is a mad man, taking leaps that would make Snuka proud. Holy Shit on him coming off the Titantron.
HHH looks so good in his one match a month appearances. He was solid and sold his ass off and made all three of the Shield look like world killers.

Cena of course won, but it was after taking a hell of a beating. Surprisingly great match, all things considered. The Usos took some terrific bumps and the whole Wyatt clan were great. Cena throwing the steps into Wyatt's head from 20 feet away was pretty brutal as well.




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.90
I really liked how they built up the Evolution and Shield match. Normally with an elimination match one team gets a 3-2 advantage then the other ties it up then 2-1 and so on. But I liked how Evolution dominated, could have pinned all three Shield members easily but decided to punish them even more. Then that backfired and The Shield came back and won 3-0. That's about the most interesting way they could have done a 3-0 result and nobody can complain about WWE's booking of this feud, The Shield's push or Triple H's willingness to job after The Shield completely sweeps three of the biggest WWE stars. (Some probably still will though.)

Don't have many thoughts other than how Lana and Stephanie McMahon looked this evening. Fully clothed women are hot.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
The results left out the resolution of the Bryan & Brie/Stephanie angle ...

From what I've read, Daniel Bryan came out and refused to allow Stephanie to control him and Brie. Brie called Stephanie a bitch (can't really argue with that one) and then pulled the "You can't fire me, I QUIT!" card. Brie then gave Steph a well-deserved slap in the face and the two walked out with Steph looking shocked.

So I was 4.5/7 on my predictions ... I knew DB wasn't giving up the titles, but I hadn't foreseen Brie quitting. I'm sure she'll be back soon enough. Stephanie vs Brie at Money in the Bank, maybe?
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    Originally posted by Blind_Guardian
    The results left out the resolution of the Bryan & Brie/Stephanie angle ...

    From what I've read, Daniel Bryan came out and refused to allow Stephanie to control him and Brie. Brie called Stephanie a bitch (can't really argue with that one) and then pulled the "You can't fire me, I QUIT!" card. Brie then gave Steph a well-deserved slap in the face and the two walked out with Steph looking shocked.

    So I was 4.5/7 on my predictions ... I knew DB wasn't giving up the titles, but I hadn't foreseen Brie quitting. I'm sure she'll be back soon enough. Stephanie vs Brie at Money in the Bank, maybe?


Close, Steph was going on and on about how it's HER DUTY to fire her, and how Brie worked for her, and she's the boss, etc etc.
When she said she quit, Steph gave a little smirk and giggled, then Brie slapped the dogshit out of her.
Steph left looking dazed and confused and actually ran to the back after she was about half way up the walk way.

Didn't include this in the results, because, well, it wasn't a match.




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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.75
Everyone knows you cannot have just one Bella escort celebrity guests, that's just bad for business.

The stair throwing spot was just nutty, and did Harper even land on a table to catch his fall?

This PPV blew away my expectatins, granted they were low going in but this was really solid to great throughout.

I agree Steph looked good, but why can't other Divas be thick and curvy without being called fat?

Production seemed all over the place again showing things they weren't supposed to show and flipping all over the place at the start of the main event.

I had the usual Xbox sputters, but wasn't way behind like some people seemed to be.

Edit: I totally forgot Steph's fuck you laugh before the slap was fantastic.


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco

    I agree Steph looked good, but why can't other Divas be thick and curvy without being called fat?

    Edit: I totally forgot Steph's fuck you laugh before the slap was fantastic.


    (edited by BigDaddyLoco on 1.6.14 2358)


Molly Holly and "Piggy James" agrees with that statement. (As do I)

And Steph's laugh was made even better with the little crinkling of her nose as she did it.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.61
First time testing a PPV on the PS4 and it kept rewinding a few seconds and showing me the same thing over and over. Was really annoying. I might go back to the PC for Money In The Bank as it froze up a few times during Extreme Rules but wasn't so frequently like my PS4 deja vu experience. Just got to remember to turn screensaver and monitor sleep off.

I thought the PPV was sucking until the Cena/Bray Wyatt match. Holy shit Cena tossed the steel steps right into Bray! Evolution was beating the crap out of Roman Reigns but I guess that was part of the plan as the Shield went over without a single elimination. So was that Bluetista's last match while he promotes Guardians of the Galaxy?
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Payback beat Arrival! Good for them. Everyone is going to be dead tomorrow.

    Originally posted by oudom
    So was that Bluetista's last match while he promotes Guardians of the Galaxy?


He's supposedly finishing up on Monday night.



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By the way, Bo Dallas is no longer undefeated - Thedemonkane caused a DQ win for Kofi Kingston almost immediately after Charles Robinson rang the bell - but somehow I suspect this match outcome may have been forgotten as soon as Bo's Fallback press conference.

EDIT: Did I say "Fallback?" I meant Fallout. Payback Fallout.

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
    Originally posted by CRZ
    By the way, Bo Dallas is no longer undefeated - Thedemonkane caused a DQ win for Kofi Kingston almost immediately after Charles Robinson rang the bell - but somehow I suspect this match outcome may have been forgotten as soon as Bo's Fallback press conference.

    EDIT: Did I say "Fallback?" I meant Fallout. Payback Fallout.

    (edited by CRZ on 1.6.14 2357)


I heard elsewhere that the match was ruled a No Contest, since the two of them didn't even get to lock up before Kane came out to do his Campfire and Flintstone thing.

EDIT: Yup, according to WWE.com, it was No Contest. http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwepayback/2014/wwe-payback-2014-results-26350801

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.35
That. Was. A. Solid. Show.

I wasn't expecting this. From start to finish, just great wrestling.

They need to keep doing this to move their product. I'm in for as long it will last. Stuff like this can bring in newcomers to the network.


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I assume I said after last Payback in Chicago that they need to become a Chicago-exclusive territory. The venue and the fact that Arrival laid the gauntlet down were the best things that could've happened to a flat show with minimal interest going in. It ended up being the second best show of the year (behind the Wrestlemania Intangible), a night when even the minis match got "this is awesome" chants, and even Rusev and Langston turned a "we want Ziggler" protest into holy shit chants.

Cena/Wyatt was just out of control. A chaotic sequence of big spots not seen since the Shield vs. Ryback & Hell No. Goes on the list of all-time great John Cena matches, which is kind of saying something after all these years. At least in terms of quality, it more than made up for the cage match. The steps spot looked so amazing it probably should've been the finish. I just hope they give Slammys to the Usos and the Wyatts too.

Shield/Evolution went a little long with the Shield selling forever, and then it all made sense at the end with their inconceivable comeback and clean sweep. I'm not sure I've ever seen protected, tenured WWE heels so thoroughly sacrifice themselves to a new act.

I really enjoyed the Bryan segment. That's what they needed to do with Brie a long time ago if she was going to be linked with Daniel on TV, not have her do horror movie spots with Kane. The pops she got for coming back on Stephanie (who was terrific) speak for themselves. It's still leading to a match with the demon Kane for now, but oh well.

Cesaro loses here on a protected rollup = Cesaro wins Money in the Bank.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.90
I thought the Brie/Steph/Bryan stuff was not that good. I mean it was well acted on all parts, even Brie was better than usual. It just doesn't make sense to me. Brie quits, so what? That doesn't stop Stephanie from stripping Bryan of the title. Bryan/Brie are supposed to some how feel like they came out on top but instead Brie is out of a job and didn't actually stop anything from happening to Bryan. I guess they didn't give Steph the satisfaction of firing Brie. Oh well, she'll get enjoyment out of stripping Bryan instead.

This STILL doesn't resolve what is ACTUALLY going to happen with the title. We've been promised this would happen three times now.

I didn't think the stairs spot in the Cena/Wyatt match looked that good. It looked like the stairs were obviously fake to me.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
After putting it off for three weeks in a row, I don't think there's any chance in hell of Bryan getting stripped of the belts. They're probably going to say that unlike most champions he doesn't have a 30-day no-compete clause in his contract. Would make sense considering how long Ambrose sat on the US Title without defending it.

Plus if Bryan wasn't close to being able to compete again, they would have just gone ahead and had him surrender the belt (maybe by going over Steph's head and having him give it directly to Vince, to rob her of the satisfaction). Mark my words, it'll be Bryan vs Kane at Money in the Bank. Honestly, even if he still needs some time off, that would be a great way to crown a new champion; have him go through a 'grueling' (but well-protected) match against The Demon Kane, then just as his hand is raised, whoever wins the briefcase (Cesaro?) clocks him from behind, 1-2-3, new champion.
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    I thought the Brie/Steph/Bryan stuff was not that good. I mean it was well acted on all parts, even Brie was better than usual. It just doesn't make sense to me. Brie quits, so what? That doesn't stop Stephanie from stripping Bryan of the title. Bryan/Brie are supposed to some how feel like they came out on top but instead Brie is out of a job and didn't actually stop anything from happening to Bryan. I guess they didn't give Steph the satisfaction of firing Brie. Oh well, she'll get enjoyment out of stripping Bryan instead.

    This STILL doesn't resolve what is ACTUALLY going to happen with the title. We've been promised this would happen three times now.

    I didn't think the stairs spot in the Cena/Wyatt match looked that good. It looked like the stairs were obviously fake to me.


It's not just about stripping Bryan of the title, though. Stephanie wants to humiliate Bryan, to make him pay for what he did to her husband and how he made them look like fools. And he just keeps refusing to be humbled or humiliated, so she never pulls the trigger. She wants the stripping to be a big "You're fired" moment as Bryan's broken down (or for him to be despondent and just hand it over). Maybe she'll get it tomorrow, but I doubt it. Maybe Vince comes out and overrules her. Maybe Kane doesn't want Bryan stripped 'cause he wants to take the title off of him in the ring. Maybe she's about to do it and the Shield surrounds the ring and runs her off. Who knows? Obviously, the whole story is an audible after Bryan's injury, but I can't complain about its execution. Stephanie in particular has been superb (and, yes, smoking hot, too).





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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.34
I think tomorrow we get "so you won't hand them over, Daniel? Well, injury or no injury, if a champion is to hold those belts he must COMPETE and you will compete at Money In The Bank in a BURIED ALIIIIIVE MATCH!".

What an unexpectedly great show. I don't even mind Bray losing - that was a main event performance and the end was totally booked to protect him.
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I assume we'll learn tonight that the Kingston-Dallas match was ruled neither a DQ nor a No Contest, but rather, a Bo Contest.

If the new Special Event strategy is holy-shit-insane-extreme-level spectacle matches for all the important people, I think that might actually be a business model I'd keep supporting. I didn't love some of the decision-making, but the Matches That Mattered delivered at an unexpectedly great level.

Big E vs. Rusev was good and probably could have been really good if they'd given it more time (maybe instead of the Rhodes vs. RybaXel match, which came out of nowhere and felt like a Raw segment). The Bulgarian Missile Crisis spot was amazing, and maybe five more minutes of the two of them slamming into each other could have made it something really noteworthy. If Big E can't get out of the Accolade, it would seem now that we have a new ultimate move that only the Big Show or possibly Cesaro or most obviously and definitely and without question John Cena can escape, fans.

Barrett vs. RVD was pretty good, I guess not great, but I don't know that RVD has a great match in him. Barrett getting the win with the Bullhammer by having to power through an injury, combined with him NOT being the one to taunt the Blackhawks fans (that went to Bo) makes me feel like they're at least contemplating a face/tweener push for him, which I'd like.

Loved everything about Sheamus vs. Cesaro but the finish, which I a little bit hated. The idea was good (Sheamus sneaks in a victory to keep the rivalry going), but don't have him do it immediately after the Giant Swing. We have already established the wrestling physics invovled here: Cesaro has a superior Swiss brain which can think in five languages, one more language than there are cardinal directions, which means he does not get dizzy when doing the Swing. Him stumbling out of it and Sheamus being perfectly fine was just dumb, unless this is part of their continued plan to minimize the Swing as part of their odd handling of Cesaro. But the match, though, that was pretty great and a very good start, and Sheamus was every bit as good as Cesaro in it. Let's see them murder each other with a ladder involved some time soon.

I guess any problem I have with the booking of Cena vs. Wyatt is lingering hatred of the angle up to this point and John Cena: Television Character in general. The match itself was wild and great (minus the big production gaffe of completely missing the surface-to-air Sister Abigail counter on the floor in the live shot) and Cena just THROWING the steps from the ring to the ramp and killing Wyatt was insane, as was the Harper/Uso double table suplex. Let Wyatt win at WMXXX, Cena take the cage and maybe cut the "Look everyone, Bray Wyatt has clearly been down for a solid minute, John Cena has won this match!" bit on this and finish with a crazed Cena killing Wyatt with the stairs and we'd all be much happier. Great match, though.

I'll buy an argument that Shield vs. Evolution maybe went slightly too long, but not anywhere near as long as the old HHH Supermatch Formula used to drag things out and I also chose to believe Vince was on the ref's earpiece telling them to drag it out until it was clear the Blackhawks/Kings game was going into overtime and Punk wasn't going to show up. From the Evolution side, HHH had his 2014 miracle working boots on yet again, and only did the needed quick tease of possibly eliminating two Shield members by himself before eating it and giving the Shield the clean sweep.

The spots througout were pretty amazing, and I loved the match and the booking. The Shield is now established as the greatest unit in wrestling and the only booking that makes sense next is that they have Rollins build a time machine so they can travel back to old PPVs (available on the Network) and challenge the Horsemen and Freebirds.

The Passion of Roman Reigns bit was done well, especially them taking off the flack jacket for the literal reason of being able to show the kendo stick welts and the figurative reason of embodying HHH's desire to dismantle the team, and Reigns' desperation Superman Punch was a fantastic hope spot. HHH braining Rollins with the monitor from the tech area was great. Ambrose returning the first time from over the top of the camera and across the remaining table, only to be followed by Rollins BAMFing in from above the ring and almost killing himself on the barrier was magical.

They accidentally blew it on at least one, maybe two Shield Teleportation spots. The first was no one's fault and kind of hilarious: after Reigns goes through the Spanish table, you can see Rollins' head pop up on the left side of the ring (Rollins Magic: he still returns from the right side!). The other one was the camera going too far up the ramp and showing Ambrose hiding behind the metal barrior on the stage, but it's possible that was intentional since Ambrose diving out was The Turn and Rollins teleporting from the Titantron was The Prestige.

Not gonna lie, though, I was briefly hoping that Rollins was actually emerging from the screen itself, like he'd turned himself into an electric signal the way the Undertaker used to do and then re-incorporated himself in mid-air. Seth Rollins' mutant powers matter more to me than anything in wrestling. I would support adding SFX of huge explosions when Reigns hits the Superman Punch and a flash of brimstone when Rollins teleports in for all future Special Events.

Best feud of the night: Lawler vs. the Diet Mountain Dew. I want the unedited feed of Payback so we can hear Vince yelling "DAMN IT, LAWLER! YOU DRINK IT! DRINK IT RIGHT NOW!" right before that bit where they cut back to Lawler grimacing and saying "Well, I'm really thirsty. I guess I'll take a drink of my Diet Mountain Dew now."

Somehow not mentioned above yet: Stephanie answering the Punk chants with a perfectly placed "See, Daniel? These fans want you to quit just like CM Punk did!"

Paul Heyman of the Night: Heyman, who probably hasn't been doing anybody any favors for Cesaro during this angle, really, really getting into letting Cesaro know when a two count was only a two count. "TWO? TWO? WAS THAT A TWO? CESARO! CESARO! THAT WAS A TWO COUNT!" Also, his successful attempts to warn Cesaro of the incoming Brogue Kick.

As for the pre-show match, I love Heath Slater: Reluctant Stickler For Rules. After Hornswoggle loses and tries to get 3MB to get him out of there, Slater shrugs and basically says to him "I know you thought you won, but he that's not how the match works. I'm sorry, you have to do it" and I died.
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    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    I think tomorrow we get "so you won't hand them over, Daniel? Well, injury or no injury, if a champion is to hold those belts he must COMPETE and you will compete at Money In The Bank in a BURIED ALIIIIIVE MATCH!".


I was thinking a different direction. "Well, that title *will* be hanging over the ring in a MITB match. It's your choice if you want to compete for it."
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    I'll buy an argument that Shield vs. Evolution maybe went slightly too long, but not anywhere near as long as the old HHH Supermatch Formula used to drag things out and I also chose to believe Vince was on the ref's earpiece telling them to drag it out until it was clear the Blackhawks/Kings game was going into overtime and Punk wasn't going to show up.


I was curious about this - or something like this, at least: Did anyone get Payback via PPV? Maybe someone in the UK? How close did WWE come to going over the time limit? Like maybe one or two more highspots? WWE can go as long as they want on the Network, but they came closer than usual to going over their 3 hour window for everyone else.

WWE must still believe there's a decent amount of people who are buying individual shows and not the Network, because there were still a fair amount of reminders of how much more you'd be seeing if you bought the Network. That must be driving those of you who can't get it insane.

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