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#1 Posted on
HBO V. Gandolfini rolling right along. (tv.yahoo.com)

I don't usually take the over-paid actor/athlete's side in situations like this, but, goddammit, I'd like to see Season 5 before Meadow hits menopause. Is that too much to ask?



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Even with all the critical acclaim, this series will make a nice E! True Hollywood Story some day.

EDIT: And I totally expect Anthony Jr. to be appearing at the 2005 World of Wheels Expo. Featuring Special Guest: Nipsey Russell!

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Geez, it's only one more year. Bite the bullet, HBO.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
I can definitely understand HBO's position in this. Their draw is good writing, and risk-taking shows you won't see on other channels. That's why people get it.

Giving in to Gandolfini sends the message "the actor is the big draw, not the writing or the show." That's fine and good for say, NBC, which will sell show as "Cybil Shepard comes to NBC Tuesdays at 8!" and never tell you what the show's about. But for HBO, it would ruin what makes them unique, and the reason people subscribe.



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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by MoeGates

    Giving in to Gandolfini sends the message "the actor is the big draw, not the writing or the show." That's fine and good for say, NBC, which will sell show as "Cybil Shepard comes to NBC Tuesdays at 8!" and never tell you what the show's about. But for HBO, it would ruin what makes them unique, and the reason people subscribe.



Yes, but in this case the show is based entirely on the Tony Soprano character. It might split off into side plotlines, but it always comes back to Tony. And that's who the 11 million people tune in to see every week. Not Janice and Bobby, not Meadow and certainly not Anthony Jr.

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#6 Posted on
Well said. There is NO Sopranos without Tony. HBO would do well to remember this.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
I disagree (although I doubt HBO will ever produce a drama series so reliant on one character again, after this mess). You can definitely get through a couple episodes without Tony. If you set it up right, you might even be able to get through a whole season. Move Christopher up to a main-eventer (kind of like Pacino taking over for Brando), and have the show revolve around him, and make "missing Tony" the big plotline. It'll hold for 8 episodes.

Optimal? Of course not. Do-able? I think so.



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I hope they settle their differences soon. "The Sopranos" is one of the few TV shows I actually like.

On a side note, is Gandolfini growing that beard for a movie?



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Being a Buffy fan and having faced the possibility of SMG leaving the show, I sorta know the answer to this, but why can't HBO just hire someone else to play Tony? I know the actor-switch is usually reserved for soap operas (and evil JR), but given that Tony Soprano exists only within the made up universe of the writer's heads, does Gandolfini bring THAT much to the table as Tony? Shouldn't a good enough actor be able to play Tony as well as Galdofini? Television is a means of telling stories, and Galdofini is representing Tony Soprano in that story. I know its a visual medium, but I've never understood why actors and their characters get so wrapped up together sometimes.



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    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    Being a Buffy fan and having faced the possibility of SMG leaving the show, I sorta know the answer to this, but why can't HBO just hire someone else to play Tony? I know the actor-switch is usually reserved for soap operas (and evil JR), but given that Tony Soprano exists only within the made up universe of the writer's heads, does Gandolfini bring THAT much to the table as Tony? Shouldn't a good enough actor be able to play Tony as well as Galdofini? Television is a means of telling stories, and Galdofini is representing Tony Soprano in that story. I know its a visual medium, but I've never understood why actors and their characters get so wrapped up together sometimes.


I think the big problem with this is, when I see Gandolfini, I see Tony Soprano.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    Being a Buffy fan and having faced the possibility of SMG leaving the show, I sorta know the answer to this, but why can't HBO just hire someone else to play Tony? I know the actor-switch is usually reserved for soap operas (and evil JR), but given that Tony Soprano exists only within the made up universe of the writer's heads, does Gandolfini bring THAT much to the table as Tony? Shouldn't a good enough actor be able to play Tony as well as Galdofini? Television is a means of telling stories, and Galdofini is representing Tony Soprano in that story. I know its a visual medium, but I've never understood why actors and their characters get so wrapped up together sometimes.


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#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by David Adams

      Originally posted by MoeGates

      Giving in to Gandolfini sends the message "the actor is the big draw, not the writing or the show." That's fine and good for say, NBC, which will sell show as "Cybil Shepard comes to NBC Tuesdays at 8!" and never tell you what the show's about. But for HBO, it would ruin what makes them unique, and the reason people subscribe.



    Yes, but in this case the show is based entirely on the Tony Soprano character. It might split off into side plotlines, but it always comes back to Tony. And that's who the 11 million people tune in to see every week. Not Janice and Bobby, not Meadow and certainly not Anthony Jr.




Well, I tune in to see Paulie Walnuts, Uncle Junior and, until the latter half of the last season, Ralphie, but that's besides the point...



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HBO has delayed production of Season 5 of The Sopranos, due to the Gandolfini situation. Production was going to begin later this month.



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