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|  #1 Posted on 31.7.08 0714.58 | Instant Rating: 4.13 | For starters, it seems to me it seems like every time he goes somewhere else, it promises to be a "Super Bowl" year, and there's a big fuss about how the big turnaround is here because Parcells has taken over. I just think it's a little rediculous that he's supposed to have been the second coming for the New England Patriots, the New York Jets, the Dallas Cowboys, and now the Miami Dolphins when the man hasn't won a title since 1991, and with the Giants.
I'm just not buying the fact that the Miami Dolphins will win a title within the next 5 years, like a friend of mine thinks because of the "Tuna". Could anybody else shine some light on this, maybe make me see why Parcells could be valuable? I mean, discipline, hooray, defense, hooray, but where are the Lombardi trophies that those things he does so well are supposed to earn?
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| #2 Posted on 31.7.08 0927.07 | Instant Rating: 1.79 | New England went to a super bowl with him. The jets went far into the playoffs, the Cowboys, who he built, are a legit super bowl contender.
There are a thousand coaches who would give their left nut to be a third as good as Parcells.
Will he bring a super bowl to Miami? Not this year, but within five, they will be serious contenders, unless he looses interest.
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|  #3 Posted on 31.7.08 1100.41 | Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but most or all of Parcells success has been as a coach has it not??
I am not sure he has a proven track record running the while show with someone else coaching. However...
...as a FinFan I certainly hope this translates to us contending again. He has inherited a mess for sure and it will take some time to turn things around.
The offseason has been interesting and I do believe the moves that have been made are all in the best interest of
the future, so we will just have to be patient.
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| #4 Posted on 31.7.08 1449.24 | Instant Rating: 9.17 | I have all the faith in the world. As a matter of fact, my first bet of the year was "who wins more games - Fish or the Packers!" I get three games on the wire, so the only real bad thing would be a tie; but, no one was budging on the 1/2 game. I wouldn't mind losing that one, but I don't think I will.
I like the Dolphins winning about five or six games this year. I also like the idea that GB can't pull their heads out of their asses. I'm ready for some football, that's for sure
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| #5 Posted on 4.8.08 1551.52 | Instant Rating: 4.14 | Originally posted by StaggerLee
New England went to a super bowl with him. The jets went far into the playoffs, the Cowboys, who he built, are a legit super bowl contender.
There are a thousand coaches who would give their left nut to be a third as good as Parcells.
I know all that, but he still hasn't WON the big game since '91. He's not bad, but really, what makes him so good? He's not George Halas, or Vince Lombardi, nor even Chuck Noll or Bill Walsh.
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| #6 Posted on 4.8.08 1612.04 | Originally posted by Lexus
Originally posted by StaggerLee
New England went to a super bowl with him. The jets went far into the playoffs, the Cowboys, who he built, are a legit super bowl contender.
There are a thousand coaches who would give their left nut to be a third as good as Parcells.
I know all that, but he still hasn't WON the big game since '91. He's not bad, but really, what makes him so good? He's not George Halas, or Vince Lombardi, nor even Chuck Noll or Bill Walsh.
Simply put; patience. Either the team loses patience with him, or him with the team. As a result, Parcells leaves with the groundwork pretty much done already. When a team fires a GM or a coach, often the foundation they leave behind is still utilized. For example, if the Knicks win the NBA title this year, you can credit I.T. for building that team, even though he won't get full credit.
Parcells built those teams, and for misc. reasons left them. The teams themselves did not change/have the turnover enough to change the fact that his hands, as a builder, was all over those teams. His attitude and the culture he brings as well is often kept.
The Fish (sadly, as they share the same division as my Bills) will be no different, and I see the same things happening there. If Tuna stays or not, you can count on them doing well.
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| #7 Posted on 4.8.08 2236.19 | Instant Rating: 5.10 | | Parcells is the Larry Brown of NFL coaches (or vice-versa). Some guys, for whatever reason, don't like to stay in one place too long. But even a Tuna-hater like me has to admit that he turned each of those teams around, even if he didn't get them to the championship. For the team, having a guy who can get you to the brink is often just as good, as long as you pick the right guy to replace him. |
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