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I don't know. They do need a returner. If he was good enough at that, maybe he could be the emergency QB as well. I mean, if both Favre and Pederson get hurt, they're screwed anyway.



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What age is the guy now anyways. It doesnt strike me that he's gonna be the long term replacement for Favre.

Very, very odd news. Glad to see its not just the Eagles that have had screwy things happen to them in the close season mind (stinky free agency, pah!)



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    Originally posted by dMr
    What age is the guy now anyways. It doesnt strike me that he's gonna be the long term replacement for Favre.

According to his official website, Click Here (ecrouch.com) Crouch will turn 25 near the end of the 2003 season. And yeah, I doubt anyone is thinking that he's the guy for the future, but I just see this as the Packers giving him a second chance, as they have been known to do with QBs before, i.e. Rick Mirer, Danny Wuerffel, etc. I really could see him challenging Craig Nall (who is working in NFL Europe right now) over the 3rd QB spot.



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WEll, the pack took him after he "retired" while in St Louis. He said he wanted to play QB instead of WR as the Rams had him projected at. So, I guess he would rather sit on the bench as a back up QB than start as a WR.
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    WEll, the pack took him after he "retired" while in St Louis. He said he wanted to play QB instead of WR as the Rams had him projected at. So, I guess he would rather sit on the bench as a back up QB than start as a WR.


He was on the Rams roster. As a WR. When exactly was he gonna get any signifcant playing time, even with the dismal year the Lambs had last season? The guy has played QB his whole life. I can understand how he feels.



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    Originally posted by Whitebacon

      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      WEll, the pack took him after he "retired" while in St Louis. He said he wanted to play QB instead of WR as the Rams had him projected at. So, I guess he would rather sit on the bench as a back up QB than start as a WR.


    He was on the Rams roster. As a WR. When exactly was he gonna get any signifcant playing time, even with the dismal year the Lambs had last season? The guy has played QB his whole life. I can understand how he feels.


The Rams wanted him to be their 3rd WR. 3rd WR, in the Rams offense, is a great position to have. He would have gotten tons of playing time.



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He was never going to be their third wide last year. They still had Proehl, Wilkins, and Horne(?-the guy they brought over from the Steelers.) If they were expecting him to play in that important of a position in the offense, I have to say that is a very questionable decision, considering he's been a Quarterback his entire life.



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You are correct. Ricky Proehl was the 3rd WR. The Rams wanted Crouch to become the 4th WR, taking over the role vacated when Az-Zahir Hakim left for Detroit. Considering that Hakim (as the 4th WR) caught 39 passes in 2001, which was enough for Detroit to give him a starting contract the next year. I would hardly call that "insignificant playing time" as you claimed.

Oh, and it seemed the Rams knew that they didn't have enough depth at WR. In 2002, their 4th WR, Troy Edwards, caught only 17 passes.



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Terrance Wilkins still would have been ahead of him on the depth chart going into last season. Injuries prevented him from doing anything. And with Marshall Faulk catching 80 balls a year (second on the team last season), he's one more threat in their passing game, much before the third or fourth wides. How would Crouch have done in his first year in the Rams offense while still learning the position? 60 per cent of the balls went to Holt (91), Bruce(79), and Faulk (80). That is 250 catches out of 408 passes completed. Factor in the third wideout Proehl (43) and the tight end Conwell (34) and you're up to 80 percent. There is simply not that many balls to go around for the sixth option in the offense.

Bottom line is, Crouch's heart wasn't in it to make the change. He's been a QB forever, and when it came down to going through the practices and learning the techniques and everything required to be an NFL caliber wide receiver, he learned that he didn't want to start from scratch. How effective he would have been last year is debatable. Rookie wideouts rarely have much of an impact in their first season. How would Crouch have done in his first year in the Rams offense while still learning the position? The Rams knew they were taking a risk drafting him out of position that high in the draft, unfortunately for them, it didn't pay off.

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Eh, when Favre leaves, the Packers are folding like a cheap suit anyway. Just ride the wave until it crashes down hard, Packer fans (and yes, I am a bitter Bears fan, thanks for asking.)
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    Originally posted by messenoir
    Eh, when Favre leaves, the Packers are folding like a cheap suit anyway. Just ride the wave until it crashes down hard, Packer fans (and yes, I am a bitter Bears fan, thanks for asking.)

You are correct. And, it is for that reason that I don't want to draft or "groom" Favre's replacement. We'll suck, so there's no sense trying to have a QB around to replace Favre. Better to be the guy who replaces the schmuck who replaces Favre.



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    Originally posted by messenoir
    Eh, when Favre leaves, the Packers are folding like a cheap suit anyway. Just ride the wave until it crashes down hard, Packer fans (and yes, I am a bitter Bears fan, thanks for asking.)


Understandable...if I was a Bears fan, I'd be bitter too. (rimshot)



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