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Since: 10.12.01
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.43
Taking these from WON

Raw

Seth Rollins
WWE Women's Champion Charlotte
Finn Balor
Roman Reigns
Brock Lesnar
WWE Tag Team Champions The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston, & Xavier Woods)
Sami Zayn
Sasha Banks
Chris Jericho
US Champion Rusev (w/ Lana)
Kevin Owens
Enzo & Cass
Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows
The Big Show
Nia Jax
Neville
Cesaro
Sheamus
The Golden Truth
Titus O'Neil
Paige
Darren Young
Sin Cara
Jack Swagger
The Dudley Boyz
Summer Rae
Mark Henry
Braun Strowman
Bo Dallas
The Shining Stars
Alicia Fox
Dana Brooke
Curtis Axel

SmackDown

WWE World Heavyweight Champion Dean Ambrose
AJ Styles
John Cena
Randy Orton
Bray Wyatt
Becky Lynch
I-C Champion The Miz (w/ Maryse)
Baron Corbin
American Alpha (Chad Gable & Jason Jordan)
Dolph Ziggler
Natalya
Alberto Del Rio
The Usos
Kane
Kalisto
Naomi
The Ascension
Zack Ryder
Apollo Crews
Alexa Bliss
Breezango
Eva Marie
The Vaudevillains
Erick Rowan
Mojo Rawley
Carmella

Quick analysis is another attempt at making SmackDown as good as RAW has died in record time.

Favorite parts of the post show/jobber draft speed round
- Alberto looking like he hated his life
- Kalisto flubbing a promo and walking off to end it
- Heath Slater flipping out about not being drafted

They wisely avoided giving themselves time to explain why Mojo and Carmella were drafted and not Nakamura, Joe, Bayley or Asuka (when they could've just said people going for the titles were off limits and not seemed as dumb.)



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
How the fuck did Bayley not get picked? They do realize she's the queen in NXT right?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.92
Do we know anything about the creative teams for these shows? Maybe if a different creative team can make better use of a Ambrose, Bray, Ziggler and Del Rio then Smackdown is a bit better, but man, even then those are pretty lopsided rosters.

That women's division is pretty brutal. If Smackdown has their own women's title Becky and Nattie should just take turns with the belt until they do bring Bayley up.

And man, they did American Alpha no favors with those tag teams.

I love Heath Slater, I wish he was getting Darren Young or Zack Ryder's title spots.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.18
The presentation of this whole thing was worse than than I ever imagined.

Steph was beyond obnoxious all night and pairing her with Foley was a train wreck that I somehow didn't see coming until it was in front of me.

Daniel Bryan looks like a total dope missing the boat on his type of guys like Cesaro and the NXT crew. I wonder if there was a point when he realized he made a terrible mistake signing on for this role while standing up there?

American Alpha get the bump ... to a show without all the tag teams.

Kalisto goes to the show ... without Cruiserweights 'god damnit wooh'

Chris Jericho gets picked high AND pins Cesaro clean as he continues to morph into that type of guy from WCW he rallied against.

What a shit show.

Hey, Lawler is back already.

Luke Harper is a nice free agent.

This sounds like a strange thing to say, but with the way WWE has been throwing things at the wall lately Broken Matt Hardy couldn't have come at a better time for TNA to get a look from bored and wandering eyes.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.10
draft announced: "how are they going to do this without it being stupid and not making sense"

lead-up to draft: "it seems like this might be stupid and not make sense"

draft: "this was stupid and didn't make sense"

suffice to say WWE did not make a make a good uh good lucha thing.

now it seems like at this point Ambrose's best possible outcome at Battleground is being in half of a controversy/split title situation.

who will bust faster with their new opportunities, Strowman or Corbin?
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.14
What about the lopsided title count too. Let's say for now the wwe title is on both shows, Raw got the US, Crusierweight, Womans, and Tags. Smackdown live got the IC. Young might even win the IC for RAW. I doubt he will, but I bet Ryder brings the US back to SD. Can The Wyatts win the Tags to SD or will they float too?
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.41
WTF was that. The first Smackdown picks were money then it turned into a shit show. I am not sure what the point is having all the championships on Raw is. If I am a USA executive with half a brain and my major demand was to make Smackdown interesting, I would be furious. Cena apparently isn't even going to do the house shows. I also wouldn't have even drafted Brock with the second drug test announced earlier today. Play him as the free agent. Do something interesting. They keep half assing this shit and less people keep watching. Raw's rating has to make them nervous and if this doesn't do well then I am not sure what their plan C is.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.80
The show with the 'new cruiserweight division' has, like, three cruiserweights.

Have they STILL not explained the title situation? Does the world championship, women's title and tag titles all float between both shows, or is Raw indeed as absolutely lopsided with belts as it seems? And if you're, say, American Alpha on Smackdown and the tag belts are on Raw, why wouldn't you immediately be lobbying for a trade?

Breaking up AJ and Gallows/Anderson so quickly seems like a big mistake. Swap Balor and AJ, to perhaps build to a larger Club reunion down the line.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.19
New commentary shuffle!

#RAW: Michael Cole, Byron Saxton & Corey Graves
#SmackDownLive: Mauro Ranallo, John "Bradshaw" Layfield & David Otunga(!)

Well, we got rid of Lawler. I wonder how long it'll take JBL to pack up and permanently relocate to Bermuda rather than work on Tuesdays. Or maybe he'll suddenly stop sucking and maybe Saxton will blossom without having to work with JBL OR Lawler? Ah ha ha. I can dream!

(Of course I have no idea who might end up on "Main Event" or "Superstars" but nobody *I* know is watching those shows...)



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.47
Tom Philips will be working both Superstars and Main Event, with Graves and Otunga respectively.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
Wow.
That's just...wow.
The only thing I can hope happens is that they trade some people, and they can/will introduce more people later.

Heath Slater - free agent who shows up on both shows could be hilarious (as long as Kane and Henry don't squash him every week. Oh they will? Damn)

The one thing I understand from a business point of view is that they wait with Bayley. You want that to be a special moment.
Obviously from a story pov it's crazy she wasn't drafted.
I have to say that technically SD has the better women's wrestlers. But nothing to fight for.

Tag teams they're about even once you look at actual skills.
But they have their work cut out to actually let people believe that.
The question is, will the crowd buy into renewed pushes for the Vaudevillains, Ascension, Breezango.

JBL on Smackdown will be bad. Mauro likes to make it sound like a real contest, JBL will constantly crap all over him.
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#12 Posted on
How about a clusterfucky Battleground that sets up the rosters shifting. The nature of the rules would seem to indicate that Smackdown would grab all the tag teams and Raw would focus on women and cruisers. My goodness, I can write ths shit
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.92
    Originally posted by dMp

    The one thing I understand from a business point of view is that they wait with Bayley. You want that to be a special moment.



I wondered if Bayley was going to be Sasha's mystery partner and didn't want to spoil it. Bayley doesn't make much sense for Sasha's partner from a character standpoint, but she's the biggest face pop they could get.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.44
    Originally posted by Quezzy
      Originally posted by dMp

      The one thing I understand from a business point of view is that they wait with Bayley. You want that to be a special moment.



    I wondered if Bayley was going to be Sasha's mystery partner and didn't want to spoil it. Bayley doesn't make much sense for Sasha's partner from a character standpoint, but she's the biggest face pop they could get.


I'm pretty certain that's what's going on. Holding somebody off to just past the draft is really weird, but probably works out better in the long run if they don't immediately fuck it up.

Which, y'know, they probably will.

Not knowing how the titles work - do any float? - really killed any enjoyment of this Draft. Logically (hah), the first picks should have all been champions or the people contending for those titles at Battleground. But maybe not if the titles float? This is basic stuff, and it's really, really important for whatever story they were trying to tell. I say "whatever," because I sure as hell don't know what it was supposed to be. And as somebody who's seen all previous drafts, I think this was the most lopsided one they've ever done. Weeks of building up the idea that Battleground will be the "last" contest between Owens and Zayne, only to draft them both to RAW. And Shane's "New Blood" initiative picks Cena and Orton third and fourth. Man, I just don't even know here.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.36
Most important, completely ignored part of the show: that WAS Sasha's first pinfall loss on the main roster, right??

    Originally posted by thecubsfan

    Favorite parts of the post show/jobber draft speed round
    - Alberto looking like he hated his life
    - Kalisto flubbing a promo and walking off to end it
    - Heath Slater flipping out about not being drafted


Also Cesaro's (shoot?) promo on the Network post-show where he seemed legit pissed about being on RAW, flat-out said he'd rather be on SD!, mocked never being allowed to speak and took a swipe at the focus on the authority figures instead of the wrestling. It was absurd when the Big Show was drafted ahead of him (along with some other folks)...

I agree on Bayley showing up at Battleground.

I also appreciate that they tried to make it a Real Draft with picks once again instead of that ridiculous random "Draft Lottery" of yore.

Heath Slater as the joke stinger on the night WAS pretty funny (and he might not be cleared to wrestle yet after that injury over the weekend).
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.12
I watched a bit of the draft via a WWE live SnapChat feed. There were Jolly Ranchers advertisements interspersed with the WWE videos. These were all wrestling-related animations, so obviously something they specifically made to run during WWE content. And every single one of them ended with the new Jolly Rancher slogan:





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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.64
Probably didn't help Del Rio's mood that they put him and real-life girlfriend Paige on separate shows.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.05

So if "Demon Kane" is drafted to Smackdown, does that mean "Corporate Kane" can/will appear on RAW?

I concur with all sentiments echoed here that this was a shit show. And I was a dope for tuning into the Network to watch the additional trainwreck hour.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.43
The inside hints are that the mystery woman to team with Sasha is Nia Jax.

It would be nonsense to debut someone days after the draft who wasn't drafted, though they're clearly not beyond nonsense.

To me, there's no point in debuting Bayley without her getting a title shot right away. So either wait until a SmackDown women's title is created, or wait until the Sasha/Charlotte program finishes.





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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
When Cena's music hit after the first round concluded, my knee-jerk reaction was that he was coming out to complain about being passed over.

If you'll indulge for me a second, let me do some sorting and grouping on Smackdown's new roster...


    WWE World Heavyweight Champion Dean Ambrose
    AJ Styles
    John Cena
    Randy Orton

    Bray Wyatt
    Erick Rowan

    The Miz (w/ Maryse)
    Dolph Ziggler
    Alberto Del Rio
    Kane
    Kalisto
    Zack Ryder

    Mojo Rawley
    Baron Corbin
    Apollo Crews

    Natalya
    Becky Lynch
    Naomi
    Carmella
    Alexa Bliss
    Eva Marie

    American Alpha (Chad Gable & Jason Jordan)
    The Usos
    Breezango
    The Ascension
    The Vaudevillains


Yikes. I mean there are folks that can (need to) step up, but are they folks we care enough about?



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