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The Royal Rumble 1992

This is the Rumble I was hoping to get to before this weekend. I have to admit a lot of these Rumbles I have only seen once, maybe twice. There are even a few that I don't think I have seen at all. The 1992 Royal Rumble is not one of those. This is a Rumble that we have all seen and if it is not your favorite it is in your Top 3. I've seen this Rumble a number of times although it has been at least seven years since I've sat down and watched it. So let's sit down and see if this thing still meets my expectations today. It can't do any worse than the 1991 Rumble.

Your announcers are Gorrilla Monsoon and Bobby the Brain Heenan who is on pins and needles tonight. This is no longer a meaningless match for pride, oh no, this is for the richest prize in the game. The vacant WWF Title. Heenan has a lot of skin in the game as his man Ric Flair is a participant, but The Brain will be watching from the booth. Apparently managers are barred from ringside again this year.

Coming out #1 is The British Bulldog and the #2 draw goes to Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase. Bulldog gets the early jump but Dibiase shuts that right down and methodically works over Davey Boy. Dibiase goes for the elimination, and tosses Bulldog over the top but Davey Boy manages to hang on. Dibiase has already turned his back and celebrates while the Bulldog climbs back in and hits him with a big clothesline sending Dibiase over and out. This was really surprising. #3 Ric Flair and Heenan is beside himself. Monsoon rubs in the poor draw for Flair and runs down the stats and the long odds in front of The Nature Boy. Flair takes his time getting to the ring. Bulldog pounds on Flair as he enters, but Ric is able to hang in there and take a beating until #4 Jerry Saggs enters. Saggs buys Ric a little time and they double team the Bulldog. Bulldog is able to come back and throws Saggs over the top, only Saggs hangs on and lands on the apron. Saggs is so proud of himself that he takes time to show off to the crowd allowing Bulldog the time to come back over and casually drop kick Saggs off the apron and out of the match. #5 Haku. Haku and Flair team up on Davey Boy and beat him down, then Haku decides he wants to fight Flair. Flair wants no part of that action and bails to the floor. Haku hits the Bulldog with a Pile Driver allowing Flair a chance to attack Haku from behind and rake the eyes. The clock counts down from ten and while it does The Bulldog is back up and he tosses Haku. #6 Shawn Michaels. Michaels hits Flair with the worst Superkick of all time and later hits Bulldog with the second worst. #7 Tito Santana who goes right after Flair and almost eliminates him, Heenan has a heart attack. #8 The Barbarian. The match has slowed down a little after a surprising and action filled start. Heenan rants about how much is at stake in this match. Not only the title, but the chance to earn millions.

#9 Texas Tornado Kerry Von Erich slowly makes his way to the ring where Flair is eagerly waiting to get himself some. Von Erich wins the faceoff, and there's the Flair Flop. #10 The Repo Man who sneaks his way to the ring. #11 Greg Valentine who gets a pretty good reaction for being at this stage in his career. A lot of Flair chopping and Michaels bouncing off the apron these last few minutes as the ring begins to fill up. #12 Nikolia Volkoff who is now a good Russian ally. Valentine applies a figure four on Flair in the dead center of the ring which gets people pretty excited. Barbarian finally decides to break that up. Repo Man tosses Volkoff, and the big Russian's night is already over. #13 The Big Bossman. The crowd is pretty fired up about this and he throws punches at everyone. Santana throws out his old rival Valentine. Bossman eliminates Repo Man. Bulldog has control of Flair, but The Nature Boy somehow turns the tables and eliminates Davey Boy. Von Erich attacks Flair and Flair throws Kerry out as well. The clock counts down and Michaels and Santana eliminate each other leaving only Barbarian, Bossman and Flair. That was a crazy run of eliminations. #14, oh Jesus Christ this fucking guy, Hercules.

Here is one of the strangest things I have seen, and it currently is my new favorite Royal Rumble moment. I actually had to stop and rewatch it as I've never noticed this before and thought I missed something the first time. Hercules gets in the ring and immediately attacks Ric Flair. He backs Flair into a corner and throws a series of rapid fire body blows and follows that up with a big back elbow to the head and then walks off to find another fight. Flair no sells the whole thing and simply walks out of the corner like nothing ever happened to give Barbarian a high five! Flair then circles Barbarian and gives him a chop which leads to Flair getting his ass handed to him. I've never seen Flair blow off anyone's offense like that, and yet five seconds later he sold the crap out of Barbarian's offense. So piss off Hercules, you blown up turd.

Anyways Barbarian gets Flair on the ropes and Hercules tries to toss them both, but Flair hangs on while Barbarian gets eliminated. Bossman charges Hercules and eliminates him. It's just Bossman and Flair now and Bossman goes for the kill. He throws Flair all over the ring and then goes for the wild charge. Flair dodges and Bossman lands awkwardly on the top rope and kind of flails out to the floor nearly decapitating himself on the bottom rope on the way out. Flair is the only man left in the ring.

Ric Flair catches a breather and #15 is Roddy Piper. The crowd goes nuts. Heenan blows a gasket. Piper destroys Flair who bails to the floor. Piper gives chase and continues the assault on the floor. Back inside 10 punch in the corner, eye poke, spinning fireman's carry and the sleeper hold is locked in. Flair is in trouble. Flair goes down and #16 is Jake Roberts who finally draws a decent number after all these years. Jake comes in and just sits in the corner and watches Piper put Flair to sleep. Jake breaks up the hold once Flair is totally out and beats on Piper. Flair awakens and is thankful to see Roberts has saved his bacon. Jake helps Flair to his feet only to deliver a short clothesline and he sets up for the DDT. This is it! Jake is finally going to hit a DDT in a Rumble match ... but no Piper clotheslines Jake saving Flair and disappointing everyone. Flair puts the figure four on Jake and Piper beats on them both while they are locked in the hold. The fight continues for another minute or so. This was a fun segment as all three guys double crossed each other at every turn. #17 Hacksaw Jim Duggan HOOOO! He comes in to ruin our triangle of treason and does Jim Duggan things. #18 IRS who walks to the ring very slowly. Taking your time to get to the ring and landing on the apron are two popular tactics this year. Duggan grabs IRS's tie and unloads on him with Duggan punches.

#19 Superfly Jimmy Snuka who looks even worse than last year. #20 is The Undertaker which gets a lot of oohs and ahhs from the crowd. Undertaker makes his presence felt immediatly and eliminates Superfly. For some reason Flair attacks Undertaker and Heenan can't believe it. Undertaker makes Flair pay for his poor decision, as Heenan tells us how it was a good run by Flair but this is surely the end. #21 is The Macho Man who runs down and looks for Jake the Snake who ran to the floor as soon as he saw Savage tear assing to the ring. Macho gets beaten down by Undertaker. Jake sees his chance and comes back in. Macho fights back the attack and eliminates Jake. Savage is unhinged and dives over the top and lands on Jake. Savage eliminates himself. They fight in the aisle until Undertaker throws Savage back in and apparently Savage isn't eliminated as Monsoon is being told you have to be thrown over the top by somebody else to be eliminated which makes no goddamn sense, but Macho Man must have screwed something up so Savage is not eliminated. No way they get away with that shit today. #22 The Berzerker! HussHussHuss. #23 Virgil in his candy striped pants. Heenan wonders how many bags Virgil went through in the back while he was waiting for his number to be called. #24 Colonel Mustafa (out of shape Iraqi Iron Shiek). Berzker hits a sloppy piledriver on Virgil who couldn't get his legs up for proper balance. #25 The Model Rick Martel who is the current Rumble longevity record holder setting the mark just last year. Macho Man eliminate Mustafa.

#26 Hulk Hogan. He attacks Flair. He attacks Undertaker. He attacks IRS. Hogan gets gets triple teamed in the corner, but then fights back. Clothesline eliminates Undertaker. Clothesline eliminates Berzerker. Hogan tears off his shirt and then chokes The Model with it. Virgil goes for a crossbody on Duggan and they both go over the top. #27 Skinner. Skinner actually gets to choke Hogan out with the torn up Hulkamania shirt. That might be Skinner's greatest moment. #28 Sargent Slaughter no longer an Iraqi sympathizer. Skinner gets tossed by Martel. Piper and Hogan have an eye rake contest. Ric Flair is now the holder of the Rumble longevity record bypassing Martel's mark. #29 Sid Justice. The crowd is psyched. Sid attacks IRS. #30 The Warlord who is bigger and bulkier than ever.

Flair and Hogan end up on the floor and Hogan delivers a suplex on the outside. As they continue to brawl Sid throws Slaughter into the turnbuckle with an Irish Whip and Slaughter hits the corner like a missile and bounces out. I've never seen Slaughter move like that before. Piper eliminates IRS via IRS's tie. Sid and Hogan toss out that roidhead Warlord. Sid then eliminates Piper and Martel who were both on the ropes.

Your Final Four Sid, Hogan, Savage and Flair. Sid eliminates Savage pretty quickly and easily. Flair chops Hogan, but Hogan feels no pain and whips Flair to the corner. Flair misses the Flair Flip, and sort of rolls over the top on the apron. Hogan gets Flair reeling on the apron and Sid comes from behind and eliminates Hogan as Flair slides back in. Hogan acts like a giant baby because only he should be allowed to eliminate people from behind and grabs Sid's arm allowing Flair come up from behind and toss Sid and become the World Heavyweight champion. Heenan cheers and his voice is gone. He leaves the booth to go celebrate.

Instead of a celebration in the ring to honor the new World Champion we get a Hogan and Sid shoving match because the world revolves around Hulk Hogan. Referees and officials come down to seperate the two. Lots of shoving and jaw jacking, but who gives a shit.

We go to the back where Mean Gene Oakerland is with President Jack Tunney to present the World Title to a victorious Nature Boy Ric Flair. Flair says he now rules the world and declares this the greatest night of his life.

Yup, this is still a fine Rumble, even if the Hulk Hogan Show tried to overshadow the moment. Ric Flair proved to the WWF world that all the stories of his greatness were true. Sadly this is probably Ric Flair's finest moment as The WWF didn't really know what to do with the guy. Seeing him dropped into Vince's world, with all of Vince's stars and go an hour while making everybody but Hercules look good was as cool then as it is now. It goes without saying, this is a must watch.








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Ah, yes the 1992 Royal Rumble. The show that started a streak of WWE titles changing hands during PPV's at the Knickerbocker/Pepsi/Times Union Center. (the other two were Angle in 2000 and Edge in 2006).

It's also the show that left a young Jerichofan feeling deflated on the ride home after his hero Hulk Hogan came up short. What a jerk that Sid Justice was. On the plus side, seeing Roddy Piper win his first and only WWE singles title in person was pretty awesome. In an interesting bit of symmetry, Piper was the first to have a shot at the WWE/IC titles in the same night, 14 years later Edge had the same chance in the same building and walked out WWE champion.

I probably have watched this match 25 times and it still holds up, everything from the commentary to ghosts of Flair's past (Valentine, Von Erich, Piper etc.) coming after him at every turn, it really was as perfect a Rumble as they've booked. I'm also surprised they haven't had another one where the WWE title has been up for grabs.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.59
We've talked about it before on here, but the Flair/Piper/Roberts section of this Rumble is my favorite segment of any Rumble. Three natural heels, arguably three of the best heels of all time, bouncing perfectly off each other, with Flair playing default heel on one side, Piper managinge to play a better version of Hulk Hogan than Hogan was doing in 1992 and Jake in the middle. Heenan's great work throughout peaks during this section, too. This is obviously Flair's Rumble, ashe basically wins two Rumbles: the Bossman elimination plays exactly like the end of a Pre-Flair Rumble and Piper's arrival feels like the debut of what we expect from them now. But you also get to see what they managed to waste with Jake in previous years when they could have used a guy as smart as him to help guide the mid-match storylines, and Piper is just behind Flair as the MVP.

The closest any Rumble segment has gotten since for me is Punk's run in 2010, starting at #3 eliminating five of the first seven entrants, cutting promos on the crowd between every elimination. Just like Hogan almost overshadowed Flair's glory in this one, Punk's day ended with HHH showing up. The more things change, right?
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.26
The Rumble 1992 is, IMHO, in discussion as one of the best PPV's of all time, let alone Rumble. The commentary is the best you will hear. Monsoon even subtly references the history Flair has with folks ("Barbarian doesn't like Flair"), plus past Rumbles (irony of the Million Dollar Man trying to buy his way in the previous year, then getting #2).

And of course, years of Piper saying IRS shouldn't wear the tie, HE GRABS THE TIE.

Throw in Piper/Mountie feat. awesome crowd, and you have an all-time great PPV.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.88
Does anyone recall the backstory as to why it was Flair-Savage and Hogan-Sid "Justice" at Wrestlemania that year, rather than Flair-Hogan? I recall there being some backstage drama around that decision but don't remember exactly what it was.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    Does anyone recall the backstory as to why it was Flair-Savage and Hogan-Sid "Justice" at Wrestlemania that year, rather than Flair-Hogan? I recall there being some backstage drama around that decision but don't remember exactly what it was.


The rumor was Hogan didn't want to lay down for Flair. The other rumor is the house show sales were disappointing. This is the best Rumble of all time from Flair's work to the roster to Heenan on the commentary. I was at the RR 2004 and that was the best match I have ever seen live. It sucks I can't watch it now.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.64
It sounds like there were a lot of factors in Hogan-Flair not happening. To go from Hogan vs Flair to Hulk Hogan "retiring" and not being on WWE TV for 9 months means a decision was made somewhere in there for Hogan to take significant time off.

I can buy the gates being low for Hogan-Flair on the house show circuit as being a big reason (JJ Dillon said something about this once), but also if Hogan were taking time off no matter what, giving him the belt at WrestleMania 8 wasn't realistic.


Rumble '92 is still the standard for me. Best Rumble match and also one of the best WWF Title matches of all time. The fact that "any" one of those 30 guys could walk out with the title, even Virgil, gave everyone in the match a reason to fight for something. Put that with some amazing spots with at least 6 potential people who could win the match and one of the best Final Fours in Rumble history, and a great ending (F-you, Hogan! Yeah, we're booing your ass now!) with the right guy winning, and while some have come close, this is the best.

Remember last year when people said Daniel Bryan couldn't be in the Rumble because he was wrestling Bray Wyatt earlier on the show and that was the only explanation they had to explain his absence? Well, Piper won the Intercontinental Title earlier in the night and STILL wound up being a big part of this Rumble.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    Does anyone recall the backstory as to why it was Flair-Savage and Hogan-Sid "Justice" at Wrestlemania that year, rather than Flair-Hogan? I recall there being some backstage drama around that decision but don't remember exactly what it was.
Per Meltzer, Hogan/Flair drew very well at house shows the first time, but not in return matches, and it was decided that issue was dead well before Mania rolled around. Basically, Hogan/Flair was big when Flair was perceived as the outsider. Once he became just another guy on the WWF roster, the match quit selling. WWF has never done well with outsider angles.

Apparently, Hogan/Flair was never planned for Mania, despite the angles on TV - it was always going to be Hogan/Sid.

I had heard that Sid was promised a Mania main event as part of his jump from WCW but am not 100% sure.

As someone who lived far away from any of the Hogan/Flair house show matches, I was supremely disappointed in the Mania switch. Hogan/Flair was THE dream match and should have been so much bigger. I can't be alone in feeling that way because "why didn't Hogan/Flair happen at Mania" comes up every few months on Observer radio shows, much to Meltzer's perpetual frustration.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.50
Flair didn't fit cause his whole style and character were just so different from the WWF of the early 90s, which was super heavy on gimmicks, short matches, and very strong & defined face/heel dynamics & stark face/heel turns. Flair has always been this weird tweener who's able to keep his exact character, and subtly switch around his face/heel dynamic by basically just playing off whatever opponent he happens to have at the moment, with promos definitely, but also with great in-ring storytelling work - remember how in his NWA champion days he'd swing between face vs. Harley Race & heel vs. Dusty Rhodes, but never change a thing about his character? That kind of thing is super tough to get over when you have 4 minutes against Colonial Mustafa.






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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.05
There's not much I can add to James' post, but I thought it was funny that "it was dumb that Hogan/Flair didn't happen at Wrestlemania 8" was on the Monday Night War documentary and is now an accepted part of WWE history, even if it was largely as the setup to "...and then those WCW vultures ended up getting to run the match on PPV instead."

Like James said, WWF went right to Hogan/Flair on house shows in October '91 with non-finishes, and it had cooled off by the second loop with them on top. The bigger picture was that the WWF boom was winding down by 1990, and Hogan's drawing power had been taken down by the scandals of the Gulf War program and especially the Zahorian steroid trial + Hulk's appearance on Arsenio Hall. But WWF didn't know at the time they were beginning a massive recession, they assumed they were just the right opponent away from getting Hogan back to laying golden eggs.

Hogan vs. Sid had never happened yet and Sid was Vince's blueprint for a wrestler, so his instinct at the time was that it was the bigger match. Sid/Hogan had been the longterm vision for Mania from the moment Sid was signed (essentially while he was still under contract to WCW), starting from making them friends posing at the end of SummerSlam in order to do the Orndorff & Savage "Hogan's friend becomes jealous of how wonderful he is" betrayal formula, which, as far as they knew, worked every time. If Sid had powerbombed Hogan at the end of SummerSlam and they'd gone to Hogan/Sid at the houses all fall and winter while keeping Flair apart from Hogan then it might've played out oppositely.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
The 1992 Royal Rumble is especially good when you compare it to the Royal Rumbles that would follow. Every once in a while I'll decide to go through every Royal Rumble and I always get stuck in the mid-90's Rumbles. I don't remember 93 being bad but I hate the Bret/Luger co-winners of 1994 and the 1995 Royal Rumble might be one of the worst matches of all-time. HBK and Bulldog start #1 and #2 and go all the way until the end because they are the only significant wrestlers in the match other than Luger.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    The 1992 Royal Rumble is especially good when you compare it to the Royal Rumbles that would follow. Every once in a while I'll decide to go through every Royal Rumble and I always get stuck in the mid-90's Rumbles. I don't remember 93 being bad but I hate the Bret/Luger co-winners of 1994 and the 1995 Royal Rumble might be one of the worst matches of all-time. HBK and Bulldog start #1 and #2 and go all the way until the end because they are the only significant wrestlers in the match other than Luger.

I with you. The 60 second intervals didn't help either. It's as if they knew that the roster sucked and they wanted to get it over with asap. I have more to add about the 93 and 94 Rumbles, but we ain't there yet.

1992 is the Rumble that I've watched the most and it's not close. Just incredible booking from start to finish. You can tell that Flair was a fish out of water in Vince's menagerie, but he was so great at what he did that it didn't matter. The talent was there and that whole Flair-Piper-Jake sequence was a huge "what if?" moment. Vince loves his hosses above all else but the attitude of the crowd was already turning at that point. If he had gone in a more realistic direction starting then instead of doubling down on the cartoon bs, the "Golden Era" would've ended much sooner, and more organically, then would have naturally progressed to the Attitude Era. But hindsight and all that. He truly is a millionaire who should be a billionaire but he's too stubborn and surrounded by too many glad-handing yes-men to take advantage of those types of situations.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52
For anyone interested where we ended up a month after this I did a write up on Saturday Night's Main Event sometime ago when I wad going through a Sid phase Click Here (The W)

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.29
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    For anyone interested where we ended up a month after this I did a write up on Saturday Night's Main Event sometime ago when I wad going through a Sid phase Click Here (The W)

    (edited by BigDaddyLoco on 23.1.15 1016)


Since that thread is closed, and it relates to this one, I bring you this from BDL's SNME thread:

"Sean Mooney is in the back with Sid. Sid tells Mooney to shut up. With friends like Hulk Hogan Sid needs no enemies. Hogan got the title shot at Wrassle Mania. Sid is the man who rules the world.

Hogan and his coke buddy head to the back as Hogan yells for Justice.

Mean Gene is with Hulk and Beefcake. Sid proved he is nothing but a liar and knows nothing about friendship man. Sid turned his back on not only himself, but all the little Hulkamaniacs. Thank God for Brutus the Barber Beefcake.

Beefcake talks about lying in the hospital. Hogan was there for Beefcake when he was in the hospital. Beefcake remembers his face being in a million pieces and looking at Hogan laying next to him(?) and Hogan's heart was pumping all that blood into Beefcake's veins (!?!) and Beefcake knew it then he was going to be okay man ... What the Fuck?

Hogan talks some more, but I think everyone is too creeped out at this point.

Jesus Christ that was weird."

This. I remember watching this and going wtf. It was at this point I was completely done with Hogan and his bs. Hogan PULLED Sid over the ropes at the Rumble, costing him the title. I WOULD BE PISSED, TOO. Hogan never brought up WHY he yanked Sid out of the ring, even tho we all know the answer: ego. Acknkowledge that Sid had a reason to be upset? Nope, not gonna happen.

Oh, yeah, and this was the beginning of the whole creepy Beefcake/Hogan buddy thing that ran the whole course with Zodiak/Booty Man/blahblahblah. Brutus never fully recovered from that parasailing accident.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.18
The best part about the Piper/Flair/Roberts confrontation was Bobby Heenan's 360-in-five-seconds take that he did over his like/dislike of Piper.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
It's incredible that Flair gives the first A+ Rumble performance yet he only narrowly edges out Heenan as the star of the night. In a way, Bobby's commentary was just as impressive, as he had to keep his Flair cheerleading going for 60 minutes through several different iterations, from comedy to bragging to outright horror at the close calls. I'd argue that the 1992 Rumble is either first or second on the list of the best-called matches in wrestling history, competing with only the Foley/Undertaker HITC.

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    This. I remember watching this and going wtf. It was at this point I was completely done with Hogan and his bs. Hogan PULLED Sid over the ropes at the Rumble, costing him the title. I WOULD BE PISSED, TOO. Hogan never brought up WHY he yanked Sid out of the ring, even tho we all know the answer: ego. Ackkowledge that Sid had a reason to be upset? Nope, not gonna happen.


This spot never made a lick of sense to me. For a guy who's such a great politician, Hogan sure missed the trick on this one --- how could he not realize that whining about his elimination made HIM the bad guy in this circumstance? This story would've worked 100 times better if Hogan had dumped Sid, and then Sid was the one who got irate.



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