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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    Also, didn't Cena/Orton "For the Last Time Ever" already happen on Raw earlier this year?


Was that before or after the one night only DX reunion?
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.42
I think I screwed this up - they're billing Orton/Cena as "main event", but so is Ambrose/Rollins. Orton/Cena may end up last but they haven't said it would be.



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    I think I screwed this up - they're billing Orton/Cena as "main event", but so is Ambrose/Rollins. Orton/Cena may end up last but they haven't said it would be.


Yeah, I thought I heard them bellowing about "TWO MAIN EVENTS!" but I wasn't watching closely enough to say for sure.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.37
    Originally posted by thecubsfan


      Most important thing of the night - did I imagine it, or did Orton very specifically note that Orton/Cena or Orton/Ambrose in the Cell would be the main event?


    He did, though that's apparently more a protecting Cena thing. They were all about word choice, pushing Orton would face the other guy and not the loser. And they made sure to protect Cena even in a pole match - he lost because he did The Right Thing and saved Ambrose from Kane, not because Ambrose did anything himself.

    (edited by thecubsfan on 14.10.14 0920)


I didn't notice that the didn't say 'loser' of the match until you pointed it out ... dammit, Cena doesn't NEED to be protected like that. I wouldn't go so far as to so Ambrose 'didn't do anything', though, Ambrose still used his wits. You could even argue that he knew that Cena wouldn't be able to resist showing off (or 'doing the right thing') by FU'ing Kane, and made sure that Rollins was out of the ring so he could take advantage and make a dash for the contract. It's not like Cena hit him so hard he banged his head on the pole and it landed in his lap.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.74
    Originally posted by Hokienautic
      Originally posted by thecubsfan
      I think I screwed this up - they're billing Orton/Cena as "main event", but so is Ambrose/Rollins. Orton/Cena may end up last but they haven't said it would be.


    Yeah, I thought I heard them bellowing about "TWO MAIN EVENTS!" but I wasn't watching closely enough to say for sure.


I am so sad right now that Canadian Bulldog won't be writing a preview of this matchup that doesn't list Orton/Cena as "Main Event".
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.64
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    I think I screwed this up - they're billing Orton/Cena as "main event", but so is Ambrose/Rollins. Orton/Cena may end up last but they haven't said it would be.


Which would make sense, since they're trying to sell a PPV without a WWE Title match in the mix, so they have to make the card feel "loaded" somehow. Since Cena is top star by default even when not champion, he gets the Hulk Hogan treatment where his match is basically a co-main event when he's not in the actual main event.

If the prize for Cena/Ambrose was to get Rollins in the Cell, it would make sense that Ambrose/Rollins is the more valuable prize and should go on last, but we'll see what they do on the day of the PPV.

The person who's really being helped out by this co-main event status is Orton, who's been basically irrelevant and has been putting over The Shield guys for the last few months after losing the title. Maybe he's helping himself, too, but without a lot of top players and the championship in the mix, they have to be playing up the marquee value of Cena and Orton since there aren't many other options.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.04
Ziggler and Orton had a great match? What else is new. (JBL sounds weird here.)

Since the Cena/Ambrose contract match was just a way for Ambrose to not pin Cena in the first place, better to get it all out of the way last night and end up where they should've started, a direct build to Ambrose vs. Rollins in the Cell. If running Cena and Orton on the same show makes them feel comfortable enough to headline with Ambrose/Rollins and not force Cena onto Rollins, that's an acceptable tradeoff to me. The whole thing just shows how dumb an idea it was to do the WM10 tournament in the first place.

I thought Cena vs. Orton was going to be the first Hell Cell rematch ever -- the scope of an historic rivalry widens! Then I realized Punk and Ryback actually had Cell matches two years in a row at the last two HIAC PPVs, which I guess speaks to the tragic fall of the biggest-drawing gimmick in the company from 1997-2008. They should just use this video and add "2013" and "2014."


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